Henry VIII: June 1543, 1-5

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 18 Part 1, January-July 1543. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1901.

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June 1543, 1-5

1 June.
Dasent's A.P.C., 141.
624. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Westm., 1 June. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Russell, Hertford, Admiral, Westminster, St. John, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Riche, Baker, Dacres. Business :—The mayor and coroners of Cambridge appeared; but, as the Council "had no time to hear them," they were dismissed home again until 1 July.
1 June.
625. Adrien De Croy [Sieur De Roeulx] to Wallop.
The Frenchmen make a very great assembly, at which the King will be in person; at least he is coming to Compiennes if not there already. He expects 4,000 Almains besides those about Monstroeul. If that be so, the enterprise we have so often talked of would be both honourable and profitable to our masters. "Jay sceu quelque chose de Ardre plus avant que je ne feis jamais, que je vous diray quelque jour sil plait a Dieu que soions ensamble." Commendations to his wife. For her sake has granted Peronnelle his life, whom he will send back to her in 3 or 4 days. Lens, 1 June '43. Signed.
French, p. 1. Add. Endd.
1 June.
626. Adrien De Croy [Sieur De Roeulx] to [Wallop].
After he had finished his first letter he received Wallop's reporting answer from the King upon the subject they discussed. Is always at the King's service and the Emperor's. The more he thinks of the project they discussed, the more he finds it honorable, reasonable and profitable, if done secretly and soon. Quite understands that the King desires to guard his honor; but they must be ready to act immediately upon the defiance made, and therefore the English should by working at their bulwarks make a show of meaning to defend rather than attack and bring over little troops of men secretly. As to the men and artillery he can bring; will at once despatch to know the Queen Regent's pleasure, "et, sa response oye, vous en advertiray a diligence; et si mestier est me trouveray vers vous pour conclure ce qui sera de fere. Jespere avoir nouvelles de la Roineend edens aprez demain le soir." As to the revictualling of Monstroeul, gave him long ago the plan (fn. 1) in writing. Thinks he could only bring the artillery he had last with him, for there is none on these frontiers except for the towns.
The duke of Arschot and he have no enterprise about Hainault, but he is come hither to join the Duke as the French threaten Hainault. Had he had any other enterprise he would have told Wallop when he spoke with him last. Wallop will have news of him as soon as he has the Queen's answer. Lens, 1 June '43. Signed.
French, pp. 2. Not addressed.
2 June.
627. The Privy Council to Parr.
Received his letters of 30 May with a letter to him from Wharton, and "the copy of an article of a letter" sent out of Scotland to the deputy customer of Carlisle. The King will grant the safe conduct to the laird of Dunlanerik, the sheriff of Ayre and John Hamilton, bastard brother to the Governor, with 20 servants, to come to Carlisle, not doubting but that Wharton will use his accustomed dexterity with them to advance his Majesty's affairs in Scotland. Westm., 2 June. Signed by Chancellor Audeley, Norfolk, Russell, Westminster, St. John, Browne, and Wy[ngfeld].
P. 1. Add. : To, &c., the lord Parr, lord warden of the Marches foranempst Scotland.
2 June.
Arundel MS. 151, f. 199. B.M.
628. Charles V. and the German Princes.
Proclamation of Charles V. to the Princes of Germany to cease all strife among themselves until the general Imperial diet which he has appointed, and at which he will be present. Genoa, 2 June 1543, imp. 23, reg. 28.
Lat., pp. 3. Headed : Interpretation pene de verbo ad verbum.
2 June.
R.O. St. P., IX. 395.
629. Seymour and Wotton to the Council.
On 31 May at night, received the Council's letters dated at Hampton Court, 28 May; the effect of which they yesterday declared to the Queen. She rejoiced to see the King so ready to perform the treaty, trusted her herald would shortly meet Garter, and (although much busied with these wars otherwise) would make ready to send to the sea at the time appointed. She was glad to hear that there is such likelihood that the Scots will grow to a good conclusion, and thanks his Majesty for informing her. She said that the French noised that a league was made between the King and the French King, and showed a copy (copy enclosed) "whereat was meetly good laughing." She persists that the French prepare to invade the Low Countries this year; but she cannot perceive whether by Artois, Haynaulte or Luxenborgh. She said that the Clevois under the lord Welles lately planned to sack the city of Coleyn.
Have received their letter concerning Mr. Formen's (fn. 2) matter, and will move the Regent in it. Bruxelles, 2 June 1543. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
3 June.
Dasent's A.P.C., 141.
630. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Westm., 2 June. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Russell, Hertford, Admiral, Westminster, St. John, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Riche, Baker, Dacres. No business recorded.
Meeting at Westm., 3 June. Present : the above named and also Norfolk. Business :—Commission stamped for Peter Mewtes to levy 100 hacquebutiers. "O'Brien with a great number of Irishmen made this day their submission to the King's Highness."
3 June.
631. Chapuys to Paget.
Mons. le Secretaire, I send you a letter from Mons. de Granvuelle and another from Mons. du Praet to be declared to the King. By the Queen's letters of the 27th ult., the Clevois, in spite of their losses before Hainsberghes, continue the siege; and she has sent the Prince of Orange thither with 3,000 horse and many footmen, who give them continual alarms. She writes to me to beg the King to take in good part the impost here of one per cent.; for if his subjects are exempt the whole impost must be abated, a marvellous hurt to the Emperor and no great advantage to the King's subjects; and she cannot think that he would cause such hurt when the surety of these countries is as important to his subjects as to the natives. Since his subjects enjoy more privileges there than the natives themselves, they should not, for so little a matter, spoil all, especially as the Emperor has now exempted them from the impost of 2½ per cent. at Calix. They need not fear the taxation and examination of their merchandise, for all courtesy will be used. Although the Queen has been persuaded that no treaty or convention can extend to such an unexpected and extreme case (in which any means, lawful or unlawful, might be used) and, contrary to the form of the intercourse, many imposts have been here put upon the Emperor's subjects which should first be revoked, the Queen will not dispute with the King, but beg him to regard it as above. I beg you, as it is not possible for me to go to the King, to make the necessary representations to Messieurs of the Council. It grieves me that these affairs go not otherwise; and, as they write from thence, the Queen, for the indemnity of the Emperor and the country, and also that of the subjects of this country, will not be able to do otherwise than continue the impost and ultimately restore that which shall be levied upon the English. Not signed.
French, pp. 2. Seal broken. Endd., "From th' Emperor's ambassador to Mr. Paget, the iijde of June 1543."
3 June.
R.O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 147.]
632. Chapuys to the Queen of Hungary.
The fault of a courier who after four days (not being able to pass at Dover) has returned the packet which Chapuys sent to Thoison d'Or constrains him to despatch bearer in such haste that he refrains from now answering her letters of the 27th ult. as amply as he could wish. As to getting this King to declare expressly against Cleves, the Council, lately, at Antoncourt, said it was better to wait until defiance was made to the king of France and affairs were a little hotter; and then would be the time to solicit that article and the two others which he mentioned, viz. the declaration against Holstein and aid against the Turk. Took that advice, especially because, by the 6th article of the treaty, the King is not bound to declare against the aforesaid unless they invade, or favour those who invade, the countries named therein. The agent of Cleves is not despatched to his master to solicit the truce. The King has, by the Council, only shown him the folly of his master's not observing the truce, and that if he continue the Emperor's enemy the King must be his. As to persuading the King to assist the Emperor with men or money in case he could not make the general enterprise, it is not yet time to speak of it without spoiling all; but he might be persuaded to the enterprise of Monstreul. The captain of Guisnes may have added the condition which she mentions, to know whether De Roeulx would listen to it, but those here say that he is absolutely commanded to assist in case of defence. Did not make other instance because, when the defiance is made, the King's men will be ready to join him for defence and offence.
As to the impost of one per cent., has made one more remonstrance, that no treaty could forbid it in a case of such necessity, and that the Emperor lately exempted the English nation at Calix from the impost of 2½ per cent. And, because those here show that they are not so averse to paying as to being held liable to display and value (manifester et taxer) their merchandise, to show them that in the end they would have to do that I told them that your Majesty, for your own indemnity and that of the English nation, could not but continue the impost indifferently and at the end of the year return to the English what they have paid, reserving the sum which they wish to offer. Advises continuing in this strain. An answer is to be made him to-morrow which, with the sequel, he will advertise her of as soon as possible.
Here is no other news save that the French ambassador was yesterday in Court, to complain that his couriers were stopped at Dover, and had no other answer but that he must have patience for fifteen days. Four or five of the principal lords of Ireland have arrived accompanied by some bishops, who this morning made homage and fealty to the King. London, 3 June 1543.
French, pp. 3. Modern transcript from Vienna,

R.O. St. P., III. 463.
633. Irish Chiefs.
Paper endorsed "An abridgement of the Irishmen's requests" [made, apparently upon their arrival in England].
Of Obrien :—To have his lands in tail male and the rule of the King's subjects there, under the laws; gift of bishoprics and other royalties except. To have the suppressed abbeys the Council of Ireland gave him. That English laws be executed in Tomond and the naughty laws and customs of the country put away. That bastards may not inherit. That Irishmen educated in Oxford and Cambridge may be sent thither to preach. To have some small place near Dublin and such name as the King shall assign him.
Of the lord Fitzwilliams :—For a general pardon. (In margin "Agreed.") To be captain in Connaught and have the leading of his cousins and kinsmen. (In margin "Noa capytayne.") To be created earl of Connaught in tail male with lands sufficient to maintain the name. (In margin "Erle of Clanrykarde.") Ratification of his covenants with the Deputy and Council of Ireland. To have the town and castle of Sligo with rents detained, many years, from him by Odonell, Orowrke and others, especially in Claymewilliam; and that the King will write to Ormond and Desmond not to aid the said Claymewilliams, and to the deputy of Clayn Awley to allow him certain rents in Tire Awley.
Of the lord Fitzpatricke :—To have court leet and hundred in the lordship of Upper Osserey which the King granted him by letters patent, with a Thursday market at Haghevoo. (In margin "To be granted.") Restitution of the town of Glashare seized from him by Kildare and now confiscated to the King. (In margin, but cancelled, "To be granted.") To have the house of friars called Haghevoo and the monastery of Haghmackart. (In margin "To be granted.") To have Leyes abbey and all the premises to him and his heirs by two knights' fees and rent of 3l. 14s. 4d. To have Leyslipp or Fountesland near Dublin. (In margin "A convenient porcion to be appoynted by the Deputie.")
Of Sir Donought Obricne :—To have the seigneurie or captainship of Thomond after his uncle, and his lands in fee simple, with some name of honor whereby he may come to Parliaments. To have lands in lieu of his annuity of 20l. To have the lands and captainship of Onaght on this side the water of Shyniayn, of his inheritance and in the King's hands by his means.
Obrienne :—Also desires that the establishment of the Friars of Limerick as a college may be confirmed by the King's broad seal.
Of the bishop of Gloserten :—To have the bpric. of Elphinen united to his see, and the White Friars of Locriac, the chief town of Fitzwilliams, made the parish church.
Pp. 4. Marginal notes in Norfolk's hand. Endd.

634. Irish Noblemen.
Paper headed, "A note of th'expedition of the noble men of Ireland."
Obrcen :—To be earl of Thomond for life, and his son after him to be baron of Enchewyn, and to enjoy his lands beyond the Shenon in tail male; with gift of all benefices (except bprics. and "liberties regalites"), the abbeys suppressed in his country and a piece of land near Dublin.
The lord Makwyllyam :—To be made earl of Clenrykard in tail male, with annuity of 25l. Irish in lieu of the profits of cockets of Galway, and to have his lands in the county of — (blank) in tail male. To have liberty to give parsonages and vicarages of the King's gift within his country and take the third part of the first fruits. To have the abbey called De Via Nova, Clonfert dioc., now in his son's possession, in tail male. To have a piece of land beside Develen by grant to be passed here, at the Deputy's appointment.
The bp. of Clonferten :—To be confirmed by the King in possession of his bishopric with "the deanery of Clonferten', the vicarage of Kyllacmaro, of Lyicmolasy, of Theacneac, de Baleloecriac (?), Clonforten' diocesis, and the vicarage and parsonage of Uran More and the vicarage of Ballenacurthy, Enacdumen' diocesis," which he now possesses. The monastery "De Portu Puro Clonforten civitatis" to be united to the bishopric.
Donough Obrien :—To be made baron of Donnobreghan in tail male. To have his annuity of 20l. in money or in lands within the English pale. To have a piece of land near Dublin, to set his horse in when he comes to Parliaments, in recompense for Onagh. To be earl, after his uncle's death, for term of life. To have his lands beyond Shenon in tail male. To have the moiety of the abbeys of Clare and Ellanegrave.
The lord of Upper Ossery :—To have court leet and hundred and a Thursday market at Haghevo, the Friars of Haghevo, monastery of Haghmakart and a convenient portion of land to be appointed about Dublin.
Maknymarry, &c.:—"Md. to write to the Deputy for Macknimara, Ashaftnes, Dennys Grady, to have their lands of the King."
Doctor Naylond :—The Friars of Wennys in Tomond or some other reward.
"Md. Ashaftnes to have a bishopric or some other spiritual dignity for his kinsman Malachi Donocho, and the bishopric of Kilmacoudg for his son, William Ashaftnes."
Pp. 4. The first three pages in Gardiner's hand. Endd.

R.O. St. P., III. 290.
635. Mcwilliam to Henry VIII.
"To your most excellent Highness I, William de Burgo, otherwise called MacWilliam or lord Fitz William, your true and faithful subject, most humbly submit me, my land, life and goods, and desire your most gracious pardon."
He and his ancestors, brought up in a rude country, through ignorance neglected their allegiance. Now, hearing of the King's renown, has submitted to the Deputy and Council of Ireland, and yet not satisfied therewith, but desirous to see the King, has "hither resorted to see the same; whereunto nature did procure me, remembering that I and mine ancestors were descended of English blood, and in time past a baron of the Parliament." Submits all he has to the King, willing only to take what the King may give him.
Pp. 2. Endd. : Copy of submissions of Irishmen.
3 June.
636. Mcwilliam and Mcgilpatrick.
Submission (fn. 3) of William Bourke alias MacWilliam made before the King, asking pardon and to have such title and lands as the King will give him. 3 June 35 Hen. VIII. Signed : W. B.
R. O. 2. Modern copy of the preceding.
Pp. 2.
R. O. 3. Articles which McWilliam Clanricard promised to observe when he made his submission to the King.
[Eight articles identical with those subscribed by O'Neil (see Vol. XVII. No. 832) substituting the name of McWilliam for that of O'Neil.]
To take such name as the King may give him, introduce English habit and manners, keep his lands in tillage, make no exactions on the King's subjects nor keep galloglas or kerne except at the Deputy and Council's order, obey the laws, assist at hostings, not harbour rebels, and hold his lands by one knight's fee. Signed : W. B.
Pp. 2. Endd. : Certain articles whereunto McWilliam hath subscribed.
R. O.
St. P., III. 291
4. The like signed (with a cross) by McGilpatrick.
Pp. 2. Endd. : Certain articles whereunto McGilpatrick hath subscribed.
Irish Pat. Roll, 33-35 Hen. VIII. m, 4d. 5. Enrolment of the like articles as promised by O'Brene, signed by Sir Ant. St. Leger, John Alen, chancellor, James earl of Ormond and Ossory, Edw. bp. of Meath, Wm. Brabazon and Edw. Basnet, dean.
See Morrin's Calendar, p. 87.
3 June.
Rutland Papers (Hist. MSS. Com.) I. 31.
637. T. Paston to his Brother in Law, the Earl Of Rutland.
"June 3. Westminster.—The King has sent his chief herald of arms to Calais to meet the Emperor's chief herald. They are to ride together to the French king, not, I think, to make a defiance for the King, but to bring him to such a peace as they shall require. If the French king come to that peace, I think they will put all their powers against the Turk. The Emperor is not yet arrived in Almain. The King is advertised from Venice that the Turk is coming, with his army by sea, to one of the French king's ports called Toulon, which is one of the goodliest ports in the whole world. 'The French king—like the most Christened Prince—has for truth made a great preparation for the Turk's coming both with wine and biscuit and other great pr[ovisions] sent, and he hath sent Munser Vandom's brother.' Torn."
3 June.
Add. MS. 32,651, f. 2. B.M. Sadler State Papers, I. 209.
638. Sadler to Suffolk, Parr and Durham.
Having no great matters to write, but being required by their last letters to report the reception of the matters now brought hither by Sir George Douglas, signifies that he has gone to the Governor for the speedy sending forth of the proclamations proroging the abstinence to 1 July, and, again, to present Sir Robert Richardson, priest (whom for the King's sake the Governor has well received), and has taken occasion to feel the Governor's inclination towards the articles brought by Sir George. Finds him most willing to pass them; but, lest it should be said that he concluded them privately by himself, he has written to sundry lords to be here to-morrow for that purpose; and expects no sticking at the articles, "unless it be at the delivery of the daughter of Scotland at ten years old, which, nevertheless, he trusteth easily to bring them unto." If the said lords come not, they cannot say they were not called, and he will, with the advice of those here, conclude matters and despatch Sir George to the King. Has talked also with Angus, Casssils, Somervail and Sir George, who expect no difficulty and approve the sending for the lords, as numbers will lend authority to the conclusion. The Governor also said that he had put off the convention which the clergy prorogued to the 4th of June, and, if once sure of peace, he would prosecute the Cardinal. Told him he might now perceive how to be sure of peace, which was by performing the King's requests; and he answered that he would do as the Council here thought expedient, and for himself fully agreed with those last articles, and trusted that the lords who assemble here to-morrow would likewise agree.
Begs them to advertise these things to Court, and to forward private letters, herewith, to Mr. Wriothesley and other friends. Edinburgh, 3 June. Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1543.
*** The above is noted (with corrigenda for the text as given in Sadler State Papers) in Hamilton Papers, No. 375.
3 June.
R.O. St. P., V. 304.
639. Sadler to [Parr].
This day, when with the Governor, received Parr's letters of the 1st and showed the contents to the Governor, who alleged that he had sent for Bothwell, to answer for his proceedings on the Borders and for other causes, and will, with the advice of the Council here, proceed to his "punition," and forthwith order justice to be ministered on the Borders. You should do as they do, making redress if they make it, and letting them have always one shrewd turn for another; as your Lordship, with the advice of my lord Lieutenant, can well consider. Herewith are letters to my said lord Lieutenant and my lord of Duresme, showing what I know of the matters which Sir George Douglas has here in treaty; also letters to Mr. Wriothesley and other friends at London, containing only my private affairs. Pray address these to my said lords to despatch to Court. Edinburgh, 3 June. Signed.
P. 1. Fly leaf with address lost.
3 June.
640. Wallop to the Council.
Yesterday and to-day hears that the French King is, or will be to-morrow night, in camp at Amyaz with 42,000 footmen, 20,000 being Allemaynes and Swyches. Compeyne and Amyaz are each to provide 30,[000] doz. loaves of bread daily to the camp. Many great pieces of ordnance are coming from Paris. Mons. de Reulx wrote of this assembly two days ago; and Wallop sent him news, and the contents of the Council's letters of 28 May. He will not shortly be on these borders; as he doubts the Frenchmen's coming down to Bapham and Arras.
As the French king's meaning is doubtful, will certify the state of this place. The great ditch before the castle, and the bulwark that responds to the Myll tower and Pourtons bulwark, will not be finished till Michaelmas, unless more masons are sent. The Surveyor has sent for 80 more. The ditches from the said bulwark to the Myll tower and thence to the Three Corner bulwark, both lie dry and unmade. The 300 men working in the town ditch might be better employed there, for the surety of the castle is most important.
Reminds them to send pikes, matches, touch boxes and horns. Encloses two letters for Sir George Dowglas, from two gentlemen of Scotland, sometime his (Dowglas's) servants, who are in the garrison of Therwanne. Guysnes, 3 June. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1543.
3 June.
641. Wallop to the Council.
The bruit still runs of the great "amasse" of Frenchmen, the King's coming this day to Amyaz and the coming of many Allemaynes and Swychez. This morning the captain of Gravellings wrote (letter enclosed) that 16 ensigns of Allemaynes and Denmarquoiz, sent by the duke of Cleves, have passed by Lembourgh doing much hurt, that the Duke's army lies before Henisbourgh, and that the power of Flanders prepares towards Cambray, doubting the French king's coming. Sends copy of a treaty which the Frenchmen lately devised, and which the Great Master wrote (letter enclosed) that he had sent to Wallop to forward to their ambassador, which was forgotten.
Last night heard from the Lord Deputy that the Frenchmen intended a course upon the Pale. Put order for it; and this morning learnt that the villagers round Ballingham and Anderne brought in their cattle for fear of the Burgundians, and hoped for peace with us. Captains went yesterday from Arde to Amyaz.
Has just received answer to his letter to the Great Master, who perseveres for the journey of Mustrell. Begs to be at it and have the appointment of 24 footmen here to attend him, so as not to take any out of the castle. The number may be "rebated of some one that shall send men hither." This morning returned a man he sent yesterday to Boullen for certain mares, taken when Mons. de Rieux was in these parts and now returned so willingly that the owner might have had one more than he lost, "so desirous they now be to please us." Mons. de Beez is gone to Amyaz and there is no stirring in the Boullonoyez. Guisnes, 3 June. Signed.
P.S.—After closing this, learnt that De Beez came late yesternight to Boullen and ordered all horses and foot of Boullonoyez to be ready. Expects a "course" to-night.
Pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
3 June.
642. Edmund Harvel to Henry VIII.
Wrote, 26 May. Since followed the arrival of the Emperor in Geane with 50 galleys, 50 ships and 30 small vessels, 1,000 or 1,500 horse, and an uncertain number of foot. He brings 300,000 cr. in money and as much in letters of exchange. In Tuscana are made 5,000 foot, and in Lombardy 6,000 or 7,000, for the Emperor's use in Hungary. This day the Emperor leaves Geane for Pavia, Mantoa and Trent, towards Almayn. It is very doubtful whether he and the Bishop "shall come to parliament." The Bishop gives the Emperor 1,000 foot against the Turk, who by letters from Ragusa of 16 May, hastens towards Hungary, marching as far in four days as he used to do in eight. No sufficient provision made in Vienna and Austria, and the Almains in obstinate dissension. The Turk's navy, 120 galleys besides foists, is arrived in Negroponte. "This Signory hath made iiij ambassadors to do reverence to th' Emperor passing by their lands. Th' Emperor's daughter, married to the Bishop's nephew, is gone to Pavia to join with her husband, who is come with th' Emperor from Spayne." Venice, 3 June 1543.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
4 June. 643. George Day, bishop of Chichester.
See Grants In June, No. 21.
4 June.
Dasent's A.P.C., 142.
644. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Westminster, 3 May (sic). Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Norfolk, Hertford, Admiral, Westminster, St. John, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Riche, Baker, Dacres. Business :—Letters stamped for my lord of Arondell, lord Cobham, the earl of Sussex, countess of Sussex, Mr. Treasurer, Thos. Wiatt, and sundry others in Kent, Essex, Sussex and Suffolk to levy certain men and convey them to the sea side to be transported to Dover.
4 June.
645. Suffolk to [Parr].
I send your Lordship herewith a letter that came from Court to you, open, answering your last letter to Court sent "at your being here"; also another letter to you and one to Frogmorton your servant. I send you also copy of a writing (altered from proclamation) sent to all the sea coasts of England; praying you to send my letter herewith to the sheriff of Northumberland in that behalf and my letter to Wharton enclosing like letters to the sheriffs of Cumberland and Westmoreland, with a letter also to the mayor of Newcastle. Also I send a letter to Sadleyr in Scotland with a letter to Sir Wm. Eure for its conveyance. Darnton, 4 June. Signed.
P. 1. Fly leaf with address lost.
4 June.
R.O. St. P., III. 465.
646. Sir Ant. St. Leger to Henry VIII.
Returning from the Cavenaghes' country, where he had been ten or twelve days, heard from Cork that three French ships there had taken a prize or two laden with iron and salt, Spaniards' goods, and sold them there, the city claiming privilege to do so even in war time. There are Frenchmen and Bretons in divers coasts. As the King's ships at Lambay are instructed to intercept communication between France and Scotland, reminds him that between Lambay and Holyhead is 60 or 80 miles, so that the Frenchmen and Scots, knowing of the King's navy being there, can pass out of danger. Asks how to use Frenchmen and Scots that repair to the ports.
On the writer's motion, Desmond brought the lord Roche and the White Knight, Englishmen who have been long out of order, to him at Caterlagh castle and they are now laid in Dublin castle, where they agree very well "and lie both in one bed that before could not agree in a country of forty miles in length between them and under their rule." Will keep them till their amity is confirmed and then send them home in English apparel (now they are in "saffren shurtes and kernoghes cotes"), for they could not buy one apparel and pay a quarter's board in the castle, although their lands, well ordered, would make them great lords. Praises Desmond's diligence and begs the King to favour his suits. Advised him to forbear his suit for Dongervan, and has sent four gunners to keep it safely, for it is one of the meetest places for the King to have a servant of his own in. The Vice-treasurer, who has done nine years' painful service and been no beggar, had, from the late lord Crumwell, the wardship and marriage of the baron of Delven, but has no patent to show. Commends him and begs the King to grant one. The ward is but 40l. a year and within a year of his age. Commends the Chief Baron for an increase of fee. Must needs commend those who serve well, although none have more need than himself, who spends all he has, both here and in England, and a great deal more, in the King's service; but his trust is in the King, who brought him to this estate and has suffered no man to fall that truly served him.
Reminds him of the Council's suit to have the late abbey of Christes Churche for the establishment of a permanent Council in Dublin and a free school. Advises the King to send a command to the Vice-treasurer that no records be had out of the Treasury, for often they cannot be found. Asks the King to hear his servant Thos. Agard's report on the mines of this realm and to favour him. The King's falconers are now here. Long before their coming, sent to such as he supposed had hawks to preserve them, but it is hard to do here. Kylmaynan beside Dublin, 1 June, 35 Hen. VIII. Signed.
Pp. 5. Add. Endd.
4 June.
647. Adrien De Croy [Sieur De Roeulx] to Wallop.
Wrote the contents of his letter touching the enterprise of Monstroeul to the Queen; who thanks him for his affection to the Emperor and, approving the enterprise, commands the writer to join him upon his intimation that the King's 3,000 foot and 600 horse are ready. Would do so, with a greater number, if it were not that the enemy entered in such force here that he must use his men for defence, and for that ask the assistance which Wallop has offered on the King's behalf. The King of France is at Coussy and will be to-morrow at Laffere with 8,000 or 10,000 lansquenets, 24,000 or 25,000 French foot, from 7,000 to 8,000 horse, and 46 pieces of artillery, with much munition and many pioneers. If he lay siege to any town, Wallop and the writer have only to give him battle, which if he loses he and his realm are lost, and if he retire he is dishonored and risks losing his frontier towns. Meanwhile, by the enterprise of Monstroeul he is constrained to divide his force; or, if he turn the whole towards Monstroeul, they can give him battle more advantageously than here.
Has sent for one of the two ensigns of Almains at Ste Marie Querke, leaving the other with orders to the Sieur de Vendeville, captain of Gravelinghes, for it to assist Wallop if required. The ensign contains 1,500 foot and 300 horse. If Wallop requires more for defence, will do his best to supply them. As to guarding Monstroeul, it will be time to look to that when they are within it. Bouchain, 4 June. Signed.
French, pp. 2. Add. Endd. : "The Great Master of Flanders . . . . . . . . . . . . 1543."
5 June.
Dasent's A.P.C., 142.
648. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Westm., 5 June. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor, Hertford, Westminster, St. John, Gage, Riche, Baker. Business :—Passport signed for certain Scottishmen dismissed into Scotland. The Irish matters viewed, and Parker, secretary to the lord Deputy, instructed therein. Letters received from the mayor of Dertmowthe together with a certain Breton (fn. 4) who desired to speak with the King or Council; and who was desired to put his matters in writing and committed to the dean of Westminster.
5 June.
649. Sir Henry Sayvylle and Robt. Chaloner to Sir Richard Riche.
On Sunday, 3 June, received his letters to my lord President and others of the Council here, for the examination of witnesses concerning the parsonages of Owstone and Axsey, Linc. As the President was already in his journey towards London, and the rest of the Council employed elsewhere, the writers took the examinations enclosed; but could not examine Chr. Lepton, who was departed to London. Palace at York, 5 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Chancellor of Augmentations.
ii. Interrogatories, detailed, for Chr. Lepton, gent., the vicar of Bugewith, Yorks., and Ric. Johnson, of Owston, as to the ownership of the parsonages of Owston and Haxsey and payment of the rent corn.
Pp. 2.
iii. Palacium Ebor. quinto die Junii ao xxxvto H. viijvi :—Depositions taken by Sir Henry Savell and Robert Challoner by virtue of a letter from Sir Ric. Riche, &c., of Thos. Caldbek, vicar of Bubwithe, and Ric. Johnson, as to rent corn of the above parsonages in dispute between Chr. Lasselles and Sir John Cavendish. Signed : Henry Sayvylle : Robt. Chaloner.
Pp. 4.
5 June.
R.O. St. P., III. 470.
650. Deputy and Council of Ireland to the Council.
Are informed that James Delahyde, a traitor, has come out of Scotland with a gentleman of the earl of Argyles, and that they were with Odonell, at Loghfoyle, three or four days; also that Odonell retains galloglas. Although for that, and for breaking all his promises to come to Parliament, Odonell deserves to be scourged, yet, considering the bruit of war with Scotland and France and the intended reformation of Laynster as soon as money comes, they dare not ruffle with him without express command. The army on the sea now here would, with a land force, soon bring him low. Has sent to him again to repair hither and release his brethren, and he has again promised to do it at Midsummer. Thinks he is in doubt because his chaplain (fn. 5), to whom the King granted a bishopric more than a year past, has never received the King's confirmation. Would have it to deliver to him under the Great Seal if he repair hither. There is no profit from the bishopric, and meanwhile provision may be had from Rome; for the bishop of Rome grants all things free, to allure them.
The King commanded them to advertise him of such of his servants as here diligently "mylited" in his service, to the intent to reward them with lands or the keeping of fortresses. Highly commend John Travers who is meet, for his services, office and knowledge of the language, to be planted in some place to be surely kept. Dublin, 5 June 35 Hen. VIII.
P.S.—Lord Power and the baron of Dunboyne have come hither with letters from Ormond requiring licence for them to repair to the King for a year or two, and, as they are young men of small living, to be admitted as pensioners. Ask the Council to learn the King's pleasure in this. Signed by St. Leger, Alen, Abp. Browne, Aylmer, Brabazon, Lutrell, Bathe, Cusake and Justice Houth.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.
5 June.
651. Sadler to [Parr].
Commends to his Lordship the bearer William Ryvan, laird of Ballanden, uncle to the lord Ryvan, who desires to see the King and realm, and has the Governor's licence to pass into England. Has written by him to Suffolk to give him passport and safe conduct to Court. Has found him "of a very honest mind and affection towards Christian religion." Edinburgh, 5 June.
Hol., p. 1. Fly leaf with address lost.
5 June.
652. The Patriarch, Marco Grimani, to Card. Farnese.
Here are arrived certain Scots, amongst others an agent (fn. 6) of the Cardinal of St. Andrews, a person of intelligence and experience in Rome, who dined with the writer this morning. He came from Scotland with two ships, in company with a man (fn. 7) sent by the Queen of Scotland and the count of Linox to the French king, in danger from the English who guard that sea, and they were bound to pass between England and Ireland. He says the Queen is at liberty but cannot govern; and is in her palace with her daughter, and cannot depart thence. Likewise the Cardinal does nothing (non negotia) but remains in St. Andrews waiting for better fortune. The barons of the realm are at discord and will shortly come to blows; and, although the greater part of Scotland sides with the Queen and Linox, it is doubted that that Governor may seek the aid of England; in which case there would be no remedy, but they would occupy that realm. Their chief fear is that the Governor appears to hold to the part of England and is considered little catholic and favours bad churchmen (tristi ecclesiastiei), of whom there are abundance. This agent says that the man sent by the Queen and Linox, immediately upon arriving at Dieppe, went in post to the French king to seek ships, artillery, munitions and money.
Asked these Scots whether he (the writer) would be welcome in Scotland, and what he could do; but all concluded that he could do little, seeing the discord there and the hatred which part of them bear to the Church. Protests his own readiness to go. In Scotland they did not know [of his coming], although he has been here nigh two months; but the King of England knows it well and, as Venetians report, threatens to do him little pleasure if he catches him. Has in his time escaped from so many perils that he trusts in God to escape this also. * * * Paris, 5 June, 1543. Signed : Marco Grimano, Patriarcha.
Italian. Modern extract from a Vatican MS., pp. 3. Headed : Di Marco Grimano, nuntio in Francia, al R'mo Card. Farnese.
5 June.
Corpus Reform., V. 116.
653. Cruciger to Joachim Camerarius.
When I had come hither John Anglus who passed some years in our University brought me letters from D. Philip [Melancthon] * * * Halæ Saxonum, 5 June.


  • 1. See Vol. XVII. No. 519 (2).
  • 2. Sir John Forman—see Vol. XVI., No. 940. In State Papers the name is misread "Formes" and indexed among references to M. de Formes, Marillac's cousin.
  • 3. Worded exactly like that made by O'Neil. See Vol. XVII. No. 831, or St. P. III., 421.
  • 4. L'Artigue ? See No. 662.
  • 5. Conaught O Siagail. See Vol. XVII. No. 924.
  • 6. David Vonar.
  • 7. James Stewart.