Henry VIII: October 1543, 1-10

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October 1543, 1-10

1 Oct.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 235.]
243. Henry VIII. to Charles V.
In favour of the earl of Surrey, knight of his Order, who desires to see the Emperor's camp; and whose request in this Henry has readily granted, hoping that by experience of war he may succeed to the honorable qualities of his relatives. Woodstock, 1 Oct. 1543.
French. Two modern transcripts from Vienna, each, p. 1.
1 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 173. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 54.
244. Suffolk, Parr, Tunstall and Browne to the Council.
Enclose letters from Angus to the King and from Sir George Douglas to Suffolk, showing the state of affairs of Scotland. As Douglas should be at the day of meeting of the lords at Edinburgh on Thursday next, (fn. 1) have forborne to press his coming hither, and have written in cipher to Mr. Sadleyr the effect of the things they would have here treated with him; so that Sadleyr may practise them with him, as well for the getting of the castles and holds as for the safeguard of the young Queen, seeing that her mother and the Cardinal are now gone to St. Andrews. As, when these lords are together at Edinburgh, "they shall be the strongest, and have in manner the sword in their hands," Sadler is to prompt them to use it and take the Governor into their hands if he abide there. As to the restitution which Douglas writes of for his friends, have already taken order. This morning, about 4 a.m., received the Council's letters touching the speedy exploits against the Humes and Carres, for which order is also already taken. Darneton, 1 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1543.
3 Oct.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 236n.
245. Chapuys to the Queen of Hungary.
Again, at the request of the Privy Council, recommends the case of the Sieur Bernard de Sainct Boniface detained at Rippemonde, of whom the King spoke to Chantonnay. London, 3 Oct. 1543.
Original at Vienna.
3 Oct.
R. O. St. P., IX. 516.
246. Wotton to Henry VIII.
The Emperor has letters from the Marquis del Guasto that Barbarossa, hearing of his coming and sore discontented with the Frenchmen, who had borne him in hand that it was impossible for the Emperor to succour Nyse, has levied the siege and carried off 2,000 Frenchmen in chains in his galleys, but that Mons. Denghien escaped. The rest of the Frenchmen burnt part of the town and ran away, and many of them are drowned in the river.
The Emperor and Regent remain in Binche, although they purposed to be yesterday at Quesnoy le Conte.
A Hollander of Meinblyke has taken at sea a great ship of Abarden in Scotland having on board gunpowder and 50 hackbushes and two-hand swords belonging (as the master, Andrew Bucke, (fn. 2) says) to the governor (fn. 3) of the North part of Scotland. The ship set forth with the King of Denmark's ships that were coming hither, and the master had letters from the said governor to the King of Denmark. The Hollander asks whether Henry will have the ship stayed; and will stay it until answer comes. Bruxell, 3 Oct. 1543.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
4 Oct. 247. John Marbeck.
Pardon. See Grants in October, No. 9.
4 Oct.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 238.]
248. Chapuys to the Queen of Hungary.
"Madame, etc., Ce Roy (comme m'ont adverty ceulx de son Conseil) a fait esquipper douze bonnes navires, etc. (ride lettre a Granvelle du 7 Octobre 1543), etc., etc." See No. 259.
Modern note from Vienna headed "Chapuys a la Reine de Hongrie, 4 October 1543."
4 Oct.
249. Lords Maltravers and Grey to the Council.
Received their letters of the 29th ult. on the 2nd inst., and, accordingly, send answers to the articles therein. Guisnes, 4 Oct. 1543. Signed : H. Mawtrauers : Wyllyam Grey.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
R.O. 2. [The articles and answers above referred to.]
(1.) Whether the garrisons at Bolen and those frontiers be indeed withdrawn elsewhere? A. Furnished "but with a bare ordinary," and the strength of them drawn to the field. (2.) What is the garrison of Arde? A. 900 footmen and 120 horsemen, victualled for two months. (3.) What likelihood we see of taking it by assault or siege? A. The likelihood has been declared to the King by Mr. Surveyor. It is to be attempted if they may approach the walls before alarm given; and, if not, "then to make the approach for the siege against the next day"; which siege should drive the French, within two months, either to levy an army sufficient to raise it or to yield the town. (4.) What aid the Burgundian garrisons might give to the siege? A. 1,500 footmen and horsemen. (5.) How many must be sent from England, what victuals we have here for them and what more is requisite? A. 5,000 footmen and 500 horsemen, for which there is wheat, malt and cheese, but not beef and mutton. Signed : H. Mawtrauers : Wyllyam Grey.
In Maltravers' hand, pp. 3. Endd. : From my 1. Deputy of Calays and my 1. Gray touching Arde. Numbers not in original.
4 Oct.
250. Wallop to Henry VIII.
Wrote in his last how Fernando Gonzago, captain general of the army lately with the Emperor in Clevelande, was appointed to march, with 30 ensigns of Almains, 4,000 Italians, 4,000 Spaniards and many horsemen, to besiege Gwyse castle; "attending daily" the Emperor's arrival, who was detained by the gout. Yesternight, at suppertime, the Great Master brought him salutations from the Emperor, being at Bynckes, 7 leagues hence, again sick of the gout and a spice of the fever, and advised by physicians to rest three or four days, but determined, upon his amendment, to march straight to Gwyse after his army, which leaves to-morrow or next day. He required us to accompany him; and minded to give the French king battle, leaving Arschecot to enclose Landercy with 6,000 men till his return. Describes the taking of the old tower near the town gate. The English were the first in the assault and all the defenders were slain, with one Englishman and two Spaniards. Arschecot is not content to have so small a company left with him, and repaired to the Emperor yesterday. I received the Great Master's message joyfully, declaring that if the Emperor had left us behind we should have reckoned that he little regarded our nation. The Great Master said that the Emperor "trusteth no nation more than us."
Barbarousse has left Nyce without taking the castle, carrying off, from the town, man, woman and child, and returning towards Constantinople. Knows not how the Frenchmen and he parted. At our camp before Landercy, 4 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1543.
4 Oct.
R.O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 237.]
251. Charles V. to Chapuys.
Delayed writing, since Chantonnay's departure, by whom Chapuys would learn the progress of his army, until he came hither, in order to be able to notify his resolution about entering France, which should have been by the 25th or 26th ult.; but he has been troubled with gout, which detained him some days, and has with great difficulty come to this place. As he must still wait for his recovery and the fine weather is passing, has determined to send his army into the enemy's country towards Guyse, leaving the duke of Arschot encamped before Landreschies. Hearing of the desire which the English here have to be in the army, has written to Don Fernande de Gonsaga to lead them thither and treat them with the favour they merit. Will be with his army as soon as his health will suffer him; and will continually notify its progress for the King's information (like the above and the news that the prince of Orenges has, since he left Venlo, completely taken possession of the Duchy of Gueldres and county of Zutphen, where he has been very welcome and all the Estates have confirmed the treaty passed at Venlo).
The King of France is still about Luxemburg, strengthening his forces, without having done any exploit since the taking of Luxemburg, which was not tenable. He has long menaced Theonville and Metz, and bruits that he wishes to come to give the Emperor battle. As that will take time, the Emperor hopes, meanwhile, to do some exploit and if the French king comes will receive him suitably.
Yesterday, received letters from Guasto, Doria and the ambassador Figuerroa of the 17th ult. advertising him that Barbarossa, at the approach of Guasto's men, raised the siege of Nice castle and hastily embarked, dissatisfied with the French for deceiving him. He took by force a great number of Provençals and other Frenchmen in his galleys, and the rest withdrew in such haste that part of them were drowned. Before leaving they burnt a third part of the town of Nice. The castle has been revictualled and men set to repair the town. As Barbarossa has retired to the isles of Hyeres his dissatisfaction cannot be so great; but it will increase, the Emperor hopes, to the final confusion of the French. Doria sent 20 galleys, in charge of Jehannetin Doria, with which the duke of Savoy and Guasto took victuals and munitions to the castle, but four of them were wrecked by a storm. [Is astonished at Chantonay's delay and that since his departure there is no news from Chapuys. Supposes it is because the King is so far from London.] (fn. 4) Binche, 4 Oct. 1543.
French, pp. 3. Modern transcript from Vienna.
4 Oct.
R.O. St. P., IX. 517.
252. Mont to Henry VIII.
Since his last nothing is heard of in Germany but the lamentable taking of Gran, which has been often before besieged by the Turk and is now betrayed by an Italian captain named Salamancco, and in it a great store of munitions lost. The Turk went thence to Alba Regal, which he soon took, and has now appointed to besiege Vienna; which is insufficiently furnished and has sent away its women, old men and children to Ratisbon. Ferdinand's 30,000 men are all dispersed, being dismayed at their inferiority in numbers and Ferdinand's persistent ill fortune. Scarcely a soldier will enrol for the garrison of Vienna.
The indiction of the Diet, made at the Emperor's coming, was confirmed two days ago by the Chamber of the Empire, to be, 30 Nov., at Spires, to provide for war against the Turk and to remedy grievances and disputes. The Emperor is to be present and requires all other princes to be there in person. Certain princes and commissioners, both Catholic and Protestant, have now met at Spires to view and reform the judgment of the Chamber, according to the Emperor's declaration at Ratisbon, but (for reasons given) are likely to do little. Was present lately at an assembly of the Protestants at Frankfort which dealt with the continuation of their League and answer to be given to the Emperor's letters; for the Emperor wrote that he insisted upon their repealing all religious innovations made since the assembly of Ratisbon, as the ejection of the duke of Brunswick, the acceptance into the League of the city of Hildesheim and proscription of the monks there, the application by some Protestant princes of houses and possessions of the lords of the Order of St. John to the use of hospitals and of the poor, and other things of that kind. The Protestants offer to give a reason for all at the coming Diet; but it is to be feared that the Brunswick tragedy may have a grave issue. Spires, 4 Oct. 1543.
Latin. Hol., pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd.

R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 236.]
253. Henry VIII. to Charles V.
Begs credence for Sir Francis Bryan, vice-admiral of England and gentleman of his Chamber.
French. Two modern transcripts from Vienna, each p. 1.
5 Oct.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 239.]
254. Chapuys to Granvelle.
As all who go thither on this King's behalf are welcomed by Granvelle, and especially personages of the quality of Mons. de Briant, the bearer, has no need to write in his recommendation.
In default of other matter, will tell some news which is quite new, viz., that the Scottish gentleman in this Court, the day before yesterday, told the writer's man that the King of France desired no other "beault pain" than to give the Emperor battle on the frontiers at this season, when, if he lost, the winter would prevent the victory being followed up; and that he might be the more induced to it by despair of affairs of Gueldres and Scotland and doubt of insurrection at home. Still, Chapuys thinks he will put off as long as possible.
Thinks affairs of Scotland not so desperate as Chantonay was given to understand, but that was for a reason which Granvelle can well consider; and, when his man last asked the Council for news, they answered that the said affairs are like a fever, one day well the other ill.
Forgot to give Chantonay the letter herewith, of which he sent the copy to the Queen. London, 5 Oct. 1543.
French, pp. 2. Modern transcript from Vienna.
5 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 175. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 55. Sadler's State Papers, I. 310.
255. Sadler to Suffolk and Others.
Has received theirs of 1 Oct., and, thereupon, communed with Sir George Douglas; who says that the Queen is kept in Stirling castle by the noblemen appointed by Parliament, so that all the King's friends here are not able to get her out, for they have no great ordnance to besiege it and her keepers would, at need, convey her into the High land, where it is not possible to come by her. Douglas said there had been communication among the King's friends that, if the King would advance them money to wage soldiers, they would besiege the Cardinal in St. Andrews and also Stirling castle; and they would now, when all their party assembled, commune further of it. As to the strongholds, Douglas said that Stirling, Edinburgh and Dunbar were very strong; the captain of Edinburgh castle was one of the Hamiltons, "which he said be all false and inconstant of nature," and he would try what might be wrought there by money, but for the rest he seemed to have no hope.
Yesternight arrived Angus, Maxwell and Somervile, with whom and Douglas he has conferred upon the contents of the King's letters received yesterday, showing his pleasure not to accept the treaties as they be passed, to have the Governor and Cardinal into his hands or deprived, to have a Council of twelve noble personages of this realm established and eight others to have custody of the Queen, removing those who are now about her. They seemed to mislike the King's advice therein; but said that the Governor would come to them this night or to-morrow and they might not with honor lay hands on him, but would give no credit to what he said, and, as Parliament appointed both the Governor and those who now have custody of the Queen, they may not be discharged save by Parliament, which will ask time. As for the Cardinal, they wish he were in the King's hands, but now he is in his castle of St. Andrews which he has made very strong. The alteration of custody of the Queen they made very difficile, for the reasons Douglas gave. They would commune further when Casselles and Glencarne arrived, to-night or to-morrow, and make their resolute answer to the King.
Sees not that the lords here, and those to come, which are Lynoux, Cassels, Glencarne, Rothers, Marshall, Gray, Glammes and Ogleby, who are all Angus's friends and kinsmen, bring any force with them; nor is there here any to resist them, the adverse party being scattered and the Governor about to revolt again to them. Only the old Queen, Cardinal and Bothwell remain in St. Andrews castle; "whereof the people speak largely enough, because in the lifetime of the late King of Scots he had her in some jealousy for the over much familiarity betwixt her and the said Cardinal." Edinburgh, 5 Oct. Signed.
In cipher, pp. 4. Add. : To, etc., Suffolk, etc., "and thother lordes [of the Kinges High]nes most honorable [Counsail n]owe resident [at Darneto]n. Endd.
Ib. f. 178. 2. Decipher of the preceding. Pp. 4. Endd.
6 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 183. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 57.
256. The Privy Council to Sadler.
The King understands that Angus has sworn together such a party that he is at present able to resist the adverse party and to rule all things, the Cardinal, Argile and the rest with whom he should have convened at Edinburgh having departed. Sadler shall counsel him to use this opportunity to advance the King's purposes, and, among other things, to put the Scottish Queen's ships (which were the late King's), at Lythe, in surety from the Cardinal and that sort. 2. In his late letters touching the establishing of a Council the King named Argile, Murrey, etc., thinking thereby both to declare himself, as he is, indifferent and to sow some pique between them and the Cardinal; but, now they are departed, Angus may put others in their places. 3. When the Governor, at the Cardinal's departing, remained at Edinburgh, pretending sickness, and went to Dalkeith castle to speak with Sir George Douglas, the King marvels that Douglas did not keep him there. 4. There is an English ship stayed in the Lithe, and goods of English merchants who had repaired to Scotland with safe-conduct are stayed. Sadler shall seek their deliverance; and, if the arrest of the ships stayed here is alleged, he shall say that these ships had no safe-conduct, were disobedient to their Governor and were conveying victuals into France; and assure them that, if the English ship and goods are not presently delivered, the King will stay all Scottish ships arriving here, without respect of safe conduct. 5. The King has received letters from the town of Edinburgh, humbly written, touching Sadler's case and their request for restitution of the ships. Sadler shall tell them that the King would "have some consideration of them," so as to be sure to have them friends hereafter, which if they will protest as he shall devise it, he will restore them. 6. As the Falcon and one or two of the French navy yet remain there, and intend shortly to sail for France, the King would know when and which way they depart, so as to take order for meeting with them.
P.S.—Sadler shall earnestly require Angus and the rest to regard that the Queen is not stolen away and another child put in her place. "The falsehood of the world is such, and the compasses such of that Cardinal and of the Dowager," that things must be foreseen and time taken while it serves.
Draft, pp. 6. Endd. : Mynute to Mr. Sadleyr, vj' Oct. 1543.
6 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 180. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 56. Sadler State Papers, I. 313.
257. Sadler to Suffolk and Others.
All the lords of Angus's party are now arrived. Somervile has just come to tell Sadler that Lynoux had letters this morning, from Donbretayne, that seven French ships are landed there with a legate (fn. 5) from the bishop of Rome, an ambassador (fn. 6) from the French king, money, munition and powder. James Stewarde, whom Lynoux sent into France, wrote the said letters, requiring Lynoux to come or send folks to Donbretaine to convey the legate and ambassador to Glascoo. Whereupon, Lynoux and Glencarne are departed in haste to get the ships and munition into their hands, to keep it from the adverse party; and Somervile says that Lynoux has set his mind on the marriage of lady Margaret Douglas, and will not now slip from the King's friends—which Sadler can hardly believe. Edinburgh, 6 Oct. Signed.
P.S.—Cassells has come to say that the French ships are not landed, and will not land their money and munition until they see how it may be employed for the benefit of France; and he wishes that some of the King's ships might repair thither with speed. He says that Lynoux and Glencarne will do their best to get the money and munition landed at Donbretayne or elsewhere within the strength of Lynoux, who he (Cassells) thinks will keep promise with Angus. The coming of these ships will make a great change here. Cassells says that the Governor and Cardinal had secret information that the King was preparing an army, and were once purposed to address letters into all parts charging all men to repair to the defence of the Borders against the 14th inst.; but Cassells has not heard that any such letters are yet gone forth.
In cipher, pp. 3. Add. : To, etc., Suffolk, etc., "and others [of the] Kynges Matrs most [honorable] counsaile lying [at Darne]ton." Sealed. Endd.
Ib. f. 182. 2. Decipher of the preceding.
Pp. 2. Endd. : 1543.
6 Oct.
R. O.
258. Charles V. to Wallop.
Has heard from the Duc d'Arschot and Conte du Roeulx his zeal to serve, and desires much to see him and his band. The delay has grieved him as much as the gout, which constrained him to sojourn here, but he is now without pain and hopes soon to be up again. Begs him to remain where he is, for reasons which Arschot or Du Roeulx, who delivers this, will show. The gentleman (fn. 7) he sent to England returned some days ago, by whom the King sent word that Wallop and his men should remain. Bintz, 6 Oct. 1543. Signed.
French, p. 1. Countersigned : Bave. Add. : A, etc., le capitaine general de l'armee des Anglois, &c. Endd.
7 Oct.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 240.]
259. Chapuys to Granvelle.
Since Chantonay's departure, the King has sent to say that the French have pressed for safe-conduct for the fishery, which he has flatly refused and has equipped 12 good ships in order, with those of Flanders, to prevent it, considering how inestimably it would damage the French to keep them from the fishery, for which they have prepared nearly 1,000 boats. Has already advertised the Queen of it, (fn. 8) but, as it is important and he is again this morning re-charged with it, he begs Granvelle to get as many Flemish ships sent to Calais, from whence six of each will go to escort our fishers and the others to hurt and hinder the French. London, 7 Oct. 1543.
French, pp. 2. Modern transcript from Vienna.
7 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,311, f. 192. B. M.
260. Canterbury.
Indenture of lease, made 7 Oct. 35 Henry VIII by Nich. Langdon, master, and the brethren of the hospital of Our Lady of the Poor Priests in Canterbury, to Stephen Thornherst, of 13 ac. of land at Snegdowne, within the liberties of Canterbury (position described) for 32 years at 23s. 4d. rent. Signed by Thornherst.
Parchment, indented, p. 1.
7 Oct.
R. O. St. P., IX. 519.
261. Edmond Harvel to Henry VIII.
Wrote on 16 Sept. Guasto's coming forced Barbarossa and the French to abandon Nisa, burning half the town, which the duke of Savoy restores. "The Imperialls persecuted the enemies to the river of Varo" and slew some and drowned many. Barbarossa made prey, not only of the men of Nice but of Frenchmen of Provence, complaining that, whereas the Dolfin should have been sent to him with a good host, there came only Angolayme (fn. 9) with a feeble company, that he was assured no power in Italy would move and that Guasto's coming was not told him till he was near "to have been oppressed." It is thought that Barbarossa returns to Constantinople, and that Guasto will use his power against the French in Piemont. Four Imperial galleys lost by storm near Nice. The "Bishop" granted the French king 4,000 men against Henry; but was, with difficulty, dissuaded therefrom by the Imperial orator. The successes of Henry and the Emperor cause the Bishop and the Italian states "to be moche respectous in ther dedes." At the expugnation of Albaregal 8,000 or 10,000 Christians were lost; and it was also costly to the Turk, who returns to Constantinople, leaving 40,000 horse in Hungary and not invading Transylvania. Ferdinando is in the field with a numerous host (60,000 to 100,000), but undisciplined. The general of Venetians is returned and their galleys "unarmed." The Signory have forbidden all meddling with Maran, so that the French succour which should have gone thither is stayed and it cannot long endure. Venice, 7 Oct. 1543.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.
8 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 187. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 58.
262. Suffolk, Tunstall, and Browne to the Council.
This morning received letters from Sadleyr, of the arrival of ships from France, which letters they have "oncyphred" and sent herewith. Also, this morning, received the Council's advertisements that the King approves their travails with Wharton and the rest, and allows their devices for exploits in lieu of invasion. Have had before them the gentlemen of Northumberland, the Bishopric and the West Borders, who are ready to do their duties. Have received a letter from the Council to Sadleyr, which, for surety, they have forwarded in cipher, and have written to him to move the King's friends to cause Lynoux to get into his hands the money, &c., which is arrived. As divers lords and gentlemen are come to the King's party who have as yet no comfort of the King, gentle letters should be written to them. Their names appear in Sadleyr's letter last sent. Sir Ant. Broune will return with as much speed as he may; but cannot come with such diligence as he came hitherwards, for causes which he will show at his coming. As to increasing the garrisons; they forbear to put the King to more charge till they see what counter garrisons are laid. Darneton, 8 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
8 Oct.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 189. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 59.
263. Wharton to Suffolk, Parr, Tunstall and Browne.
Describes how, by his command, on the night of the 7th inst. Hobes Robyn and others of Bewcastledale burnt Bewnchestre in West Tevidale on the water of Roulle, while the Nyscons, English and Scottish, and Elwaddes of Liddesdalle burnt Rowcastell within a mile of Jedworth. Weather and waters were so troublous on Wednesday night last, as he wrote, and Tevidale so far off, that he has not since "jeopardied to assemble any great numbers." Desires to know what he may do against lord Flemyng's lands, being the King's prisoner. Could do him some annoyance near his house of Bygaire. Carlisle, 8 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1543.
9 Oct.
R. O.
264. Charles V. to Arschot and Du Roeulx.
As Don Fernando has found the town and castle of Guise stronger than he understood, and, he being beyond the river, the French king might enter Arthois or other our countries, or else come between him and Landrechies and the army there, I have decided that Don Fernando shall repass the river and that the siege of Landrechies shall be pushed forward.
If the French king wishes, as he boasts, to give battle, it will be well to receive him; but, since he comes with great power, it is the more necessary to hasten the feat of Landrechies, and that you, Du Roeulx, leave the horse and foot that are in Arthois and see the frontier towns provided; and that you together satisfy the English, for I would do nothing without their participation, knowing the King's affection to me. You must withdraw the horsemen you have at Chasteau en Cambresis when no longer necessary for the conduct of victuals, and must beware of the French king's attempting Cambray. Bintz, 9 Oct. 1543.
French. Copy, pp. 2, concluding with note that the letter was signed by Charles and countersigned by Secretary Bare and addressed to the Duc Darscot and Conte du Roeulx. Endd. : Copie, &c.
9 Oct.
Venetian Calendar (Brown) v. 120.
265. Venice.
Motion passed 9 Oct., 1543, in the Venetian Council, at the request of the English ambassador, to write to the governors of Padua for their opinion whether licence to bear weapons in Padua be granted to the son of lord Cobham and another gentleman and two servants.
Licence granted in pursuance of the above, 12 Oct. 1543, to Mr. William Cobham, who has come to Padua to study, and Mr. John Schier.
10 Oct.
R. O.
266. Wallop to Henry VIII.
This morning Arschot and the Great Master brought him a letter from the Emperor, containing a "great declaration" of the return of Grandevaylle's son with an agreeable answer from Henry. Writes the discussion which followed to the Council, as too tedious for Henry, to whom he reports only what they wished him to keep to himself, viz., that Farnando, being still a mile from Guyze, shall return to Landresey because the French king swears that, even if the Emperor's whole power were before Landresey, he would levy the siege or give battle; and they think it better to abide here, where they are together and can have victuals and may win the town before the French come. Wallop said the French king would boast that this return from Guyze was for fear of him; but they said the siege had not been laid to Guyze and so they might return with honor to Landresey, than which the French king had said he would rather lose two of his best towns in France (which agrees, as they allowed, with Wallop's saying to Farnando that it was esteemed as much as Turen in Piemont). The sending of victuals to their camp is staid, and they will be here to-morrow or next day. Thinks the real reason for their return is lack of money; for the 3,000 or 4,000 Almains here have cried for "gelt" these four or five days, and "wil not pass over the water to lie in the new trench till they have gelt." Meanwhile Wallop furnishes men to keep the trench; to which the Frenchmen daily skirmish, and two days ago killed a gentleman of the Emperor's, worth 10,000 cr. a year. Yesterday, Blage, who came with my lord of Surrey, going with Mr. Carew to see the trench, narrowly escaped a shot; and Surrey, whom Wallop took to view the town, was "somewhat saluted." Surrey's coming was very agreeable to Arschot and the Great Master, as declaring Henry's friendship; and the Great Master promised to conduct him to Farnando's camp, but this night came word that no man should remove to the other camp, for reasons which the Great Master would to-morrow explain. From our camp at Landresey, 9 Oct. Signed.
P.S.—This morning the Great Master showed Wallop, in Surrey's presence, a letter from the Emperor of his resolution for Farnando's return from Guyze and the French king's saying to the ambassadors of the Bishop of Rome and Venice that he would levy the siege of Landresey or give battle. Encloses a schedule of French proceedings, obtained from Arschot.
There is in the Emperor's camp a Scot, taken beside Treves, calling himself Alex. Gorden, second brother of the earl of Huntley. Sent for him and the nobleman that took him. He said he was going to France, for he might not remain in his own country and had lain a year past about Lubek, and had the duke of Cleves's letter to the bp. of Treves for his sure passage, which letter the nobleman showed. "The said Scot showeth me that he is very desirous to come to your Majesty's presence, and trusteth to be mean to bring his brother to your Majesty's service." Begs to know whether to ask the Emperor for him. Meanwhile he is staid by the Regent's command. Encloses copy of the Emperor's letter to the Duke and Great Master concerning Farnando's repairing thither. From our camp, 10 Oct.
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10 Oct.
R. O.
267. Wallop and Others to the Council.
Yesterday, 9 Oct., Arschot and the Great Master came to Wallop's tent and presented him with letters from the Emperor (sent herewith); with a declaration that if Fernando de Goonzago, now besieging Gwyse castle, saw appearance of the French king's giving battle we should join him; and otherwise await, at Landercy, the coming of the Emperor, who is well convalesced and hopes soon to be able to travel. They said that, meanwhile, they would proceed to the battery of Landercy on both sides, and that Mons. du Bures was coming with 6,000 Fryses, in place of the Spaniards who went to Goonzago's camp, and that the Great Master had sent for 3,000 of the garrisons of St. Omer's, Burbroughe, Ayer, Arras, and those parts, including 2 ensigns of Almains. It is plain that they wish the King's army to remain as long as the treaty purports, of which time the third month ends on the 12th inst., reckoning from Saturday 21 July. On that Saturday they received their first month's wages and trussed their carriages, on Sunday set forth from Calais, and on Monday entered the French king's dominions, and so marched, sometimes in French dominions and sometimes in the Emperor's, for four or five days. Ask which day is to be reckoned the first by the treaty, for their instruction limits it to the first day that any of the army entered the Emperor's country. Sir Robt. Bowis, treasurer, has advanced 15,000l. and more, as shown by a book herewith; and has only 3,600l. left, which will not pay another month's wages. Have concluded that at the end of the three months he shall pay another 16 days' wages, making 100 days since the first payment at Calais. Beg to know the King's pleasure about the accounting of the days; and to be furnished with money for their further stay with the Emperor and conduct home. See no likelihood that the Emperor will retain them at his own charges, "for his own men cry for money daily, and are slowly paid, so that small appearance there is of abundance of his treasure, and his army and charges be very great." Beg them not to be molested with this suit for money, for most of the army are very poor, victuals dear, clothes waxing thin, and cold increasing. If it be not here by 28 Oct. there will be great scarcity. The camp before Landercy, 10 Oct. at afternoon. Signed : John Wallop : T. Seymour, Rich. Crumwell : Robert Bowis : G. Carew : J. Seynt John.
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10 Oct.
Add. MS. 28,593, f. 246. B.M.
268. Prince Philip of Spain to Chapuys.
Received his letter of 10 Aug. and sent answer by Captain Nicool (or Nicod ?), who left on 26 (sic) Aug., and also a duplicate of the same answer was sent on 9 Sept. Would like to hear of the Emperor's proceedings. Rejoices that the French have achieved so little in Flanders and that affairs with Scotland prosper. Proceedings of the Turks and French in the Mediterranean and measures taken by Doria against them. Would be glad if messengers from the Emperor were not delayed in England as the last was. Valladolid, 10 Oct. 1543.
Spanish. Modern transcript from Simancas, pp. 5. See Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 241.


  • 1. Oct. 4th.
  • 2. Not Burke as the reading is in St P.
  • 3. Huntly?
  • 4. Cancelled.
  • 5. Marco Grimani, patriarch of Aquileia.
  • 6. La Brossé.
  • 7. Chantonnay.
  • 8. See No. 248.
  • 9. Doubtless D'Enghien is intended. See No. 932.