Henry VIII: June 1545, 21-25

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 1, January-July 1545. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1905.

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June 1545, 21-25

21 June. 997. The Privy Council.
A. P. C, 198.
At Greenwich, 20 June, there was no assembly.
Meeting at Greenwich, 21 June. Present: Chancellor, Privy Seal, Essex, Winchester, St. John, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business:—Warrant to Mr. Carew to deliver 2,000l. to Lord St. John for victual for the ships. Warrant to Sir John Williams to deliver 100l. to Mr Flemming for building the Ordnance House. Safeconduct for Petwell to come into the realm for 4 months without prejudice to any process between him and Mr. Forman beyond sea. Letter to the Commissioners for the Diets signifying the sending to them of certain books in the matter between Mr. Forman and Petwell. Warrant to Sir John Williams to deliver—(blank) to the lieutenant of the Tower for provision of things belonging to the ordnance, at the appointment of Mr. Tirwyght and Mr Arondell. Letter to the officers of London to permit John Fopson, Dutchman, to unlade and sell If) tons of plaster, 35 chests of Normandy glass, 2 fattes of prunes, 28 doz. of "roneskynes," 200 ells of canvas, one dry fatte of drinking glasses and 9 iron pots. Warrant to Carew to deliver diets at 20s. for three months to Sir Thos. Clere. Letter to the mayor and his bretheren of Plymouth to deliver the Mary of Dunkercke, lately taken at sea, upon surety, as it did not clearly appear that she belonged to Frenchmen. Letter to the mayor of Lynne and to Robt. Soome, Edw. Baker, Thos. Waters, John Benningfelde and Wm. Kenete to deliver a ship pertaining to Peter Meyres, and take order henceforth to meddle with no vessel trading that way unless clearly French.
21 June. 998. Henry Garbrand to Jehan Lobel and Gerard de has, Wine Merchants of Lille.
viii., No. 75.
The Secretary here has letters from the English Commissioners at Bourbourg respecting your claim for goods and wine taken at Plymouth out of William de Resesta's ship, for which I have been fully indemnified on behalf of you, Ant. Rouze and others. Was ashamed to see the claim, as at Bourbourg he begged Thomas Gamay not to make it. Greenwich, 21 June 1545.
ii. Like letters to Thos. Gamay.
21 June. 999. Norfolk to Paget.
R. O.
St. P., 1. 789.
Since his departure from Court, has been along the Essex coasts; and, as the King commanded, looked upon Shobery, over against Sheppey and the Isle of Grayne. Had with him divers gentlemen of the shire and good mariners, and thinks that there is no great danger of a landing of enemies there, "the country being very strong of hedges and ditches" and the most hurt to be done being the burning of a town of his called Pryttlewell and another small town called Lee. Looked afar upon the isles of Sheppey and Grayne, where the King's money is well employed, for, if the enemies dare venture so far, "both good roads and good landing" are there. Departing thence, met by appointment the lords of Oxford and Sussex, his cousin Darcye, Mr. Ryche and other gentlemen of Essex, and devised according to the instructions; and rides tomorrow to the seacoasts of Norfolk and, afterwards, of Suffolk. Prays him to show the Lord Chancellor that the commission for the anticipation is not come to these parts; and wishes it sent to him, as well for Norfolk as for Norwich, that those here may not be behind others. Blamed the collectors of this shire because the Benevolence is not yet all paid, and their excuse was that many people, for lack of payment for grain taken to the King's use, have no money. Will, however, take such order that he expects it to be paid shortly. The Council wrote to him to take ordnance out of the blockhouses within his commission, but at Tybbery there is much lacking, and his cousin Darcye says that there is similar lack "in all such as he hath the charge of." Must therefore do without, unless the King send some. Thanks for "laying of the posts." Kennynhall Lodge, 21 June. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1545.
21 June. 1000. Hertford and Sadler to Paget.
R. O.
St. P., v. 462.
Send letters addressed to Hertford from lord Wharton, which arrived yesternight. Where he asks whether Lord Maxwell, if he come to Carlisle, may speak secretly with his son Robert Maxwell or other Scottishmen, Hertford has again written to Wharton to suffer no private conference. Today arrived Richard Wilson who put in writing (herewith) his proceedings with lord Hume and his servant Wm. Wodmanse, called English William. Yesternight a gentleman, Spaniard, brought Hertford a message, from Seignior Gamboa, that two brave soldiers had so quarrelled that one struck the other with his fist, a dishonour for which they must either "campe" or forthwith avoid the realm, or further inconvenience will follow by others taking sides. Desires to know the King's pleasure. Intends within two or three days to make proclamation among them that whosoever gives his fellow a blow or says that he lies, shall suffer death. Dernton, 21 June 1545. Signed.
P.1. Add. Endd.
21 June. 1001. Vaughan to Thirlby and Petre.
Harl. MS.
283, f. 309.
B. M.
Is told by right honest men that they have certain advertisement out of France that the French king intends to besiege Calles and Guysnes. Thinks that they should certify this both to the King and to the Council of Calles. Andwerp, 21 June 1545.
P.S.—"It may please you to deliver this packet of letters to Mr. Chamberleyn. It cometh out of Almayn from Xpofer Mount."
Hol., p.1. Add.: commissaries for the King's Majesty for the Diet of Calles and Burborow, at Calles.
21 June. 1002. Vaughan to Lord Cobham.
R. O. Is told by honest men that the" French king intends to bring his army to besiege Calles and Guysnes. Cobham must "provide for them" and with all diligence advertise the King thereof. Andwerpe, 21 June.
Hol, p.1. Add. Endd.: 1545.
P.S. (on the back).—Pray send my letters to the King's commissaries if not at Calles. (Cancelled with the mite written over it:—"I blotted this under because I sent my letters by another to the Commissaries.")
21 June. 1003. Dr. Molon to Charles V.
viii., No. 74.
Forwards a note of an auto de fe which, as inquisitor of Seville, he held today. Castle of Triana, 21 June 1545.
[The list includes an English Lutheran called "Robert"; but of the 52 persons named only two remained obstinate.]
*** A modern transcript is in B.M., Add. MS. 28,594, f. 128. Sp, pp. 4.
22 June. 1004. Sale of Crown Lands.
Commission. See Grants in June, NO. 50.
22 June. 1005. The Privy Council.
A P.C., 200.
At Greenwich, 21 June, (fn. n1) was no assembly, as the King removed to Dartford.
Meeting at Dartford, 22 June. Present: Winchester, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business:—Letter to Deputy and Council of Calais that the King thanked them for their discourse touching the state of Calais, and that money, victual and munition should be sent as soon as possible.
22 June. 1006. The Privy Council to [Thirlby and Others].
B. x. 165,
B. M.
Being informed that the matter between Mr. Forman and Petwell, sometime his man, has been debated among you there, and that you have so travailed therein that Mr. Forman has prayed us to thank you, and also that the process there is stayed pending the receipt of certain books for which the Lady Regent has written hither; albeit they were arrested here at Petwell's departure into Italy, "as it was then thought, to Pole," and accounts between Mr. Forman and him were cleared from mart to mart, and as he is there "condemned for a falsarye" it is unlikely that the books can serve for much, yet, we think good to send them,—to remain in your hands while you are together, and afterwards to be kept by Mr. Chamberlaine, governor of the merchants. As Petwell has by sundry letters declared his desire to return to his native country, we have, by the King's command, sent him letters of assurance (copy to be sent you shortly). Albeit the books are not sent presently, the matter being already proved, as appears by Petwell's own letters and accounts and by the deposition of his partner, we pray you to set forth the justice of it on Mr. Forman's behalf. Grenewich, 22 June 1545. Signed by Wriothesley, Russell, Gardiner, St. John, Browne and Wingfield.
P. 1. Fly leaf with address lost.
22 June. 1007. Thomas Lord Poynings to Henry VIII.
R. O. Encloses news brought today by an espial. Yesterday about 100 horsemen of Du Bies's band came before this town and gave alarum, whereupon Sir Ralph Ellerkar went forth, sending forth 24 of his light horsemen who gave the onset and chased them for six miles through the woods, taking six and killing five. Boulloign, 22 June 1545. Signed.
P.1. Add. Endd.
R. O. 2. (fn. n2) The French king was on Sunday, 14 June, at Legiere beside Roan towards Newe Haven with the Queen to see the setting forth of his army to the sea. At Newe Haven and upon the Seyne are 60 ships ready to set forth by the end of this month, of which 16 are of four tops apiece and at least 50 of three tops. There are 80 of two tops and one top, besides small vessels charged with munition. The Caracon, of four tops, carries above 100 pieces of artillery, great and small.
The said 14 June this espial arrived at Deipe and found fifteen or sixteen great ships being painted "with black, yellow and incarnat," of three tops apiece. They are the Salamander, White Greyhounde, Holy Goste, Starve in White, Arms of France crowned, Black Lyon, Crucifix, ship "of Our Lady giving a flowre to hir Child' and others whose names he cannot remember. Twenty-five other ships of two and one top are in that haven; and the ordnance of all these ships lies on land, well mounted, to the number of 200 pieces, great and small The men of war are not yet come, but the captains, pilots and mariners are there.
At Rochell are 20 galleys and six "carocons" coming from Merselles towards New Haven to keep the seas betwixt Dover and Callice.
(fn. n2) They will land 10,000 or 12,000 men betwext Gravelin and Callice to meet with 15,000 from Arde and Breamys, where they intend to camp, "and with them they have many bridges to accomplish their enterprises." (fn. n2) The espial came in company with a French gentleman from Newe Haven to Deipe, and so to Ewe and Crottoye, where he delivered letters to the captains to stay 2,000 pieces of wine for the army. (fn. n2) The gentleman required "the bringer" to accompany him to Mounstrell and told of the above enterprise, saying that his King "had made a vow to win as much as the Englishmen had on this side the sea, or else he would give battle." (fn. n2) He says that Captain Lorge left Brest three weeks past with 52 great ships of war, 2,500 footmen and 400 horses to go into Scotland, the ships to return forthwith to the "great flote." On the 16th inst. he came to Mounstrell and saw 27 or 28 great pieces of brass artillery ready in the market place and a great number of men of war. They reckon to have 300 ships on the sea. (fn. n2) Proclamation is made throughout France for the bande and rerebande to be at Mounstrell by the 25th inst. They will have no more than 2,000 horsemen at the siege for fear of famishing.
Pp. 3. In the same hand as § 1.
22 June. 1008. Vaughan to Henry VIII.
R. O. Since repairing hither, has been diligent to learn of Jasper Dowche at what price the Fowker will part with his jewels and what money lend therewith, and albeit hindered now by the absence of Jasper Dowche, now by that of Peter Wale, whom the King appointed to view the jewels, and now by that of such as the said Peter would have joined with him, has at last (Peter being very diligent) obtained a full view (sent herewith) of the jewels, and set Jasper Dowche to know how much money the Fowker will emprunt therewith, which is signified by Jasper Dowche's own letter to Sir Wm. Paget. No doubt the Fowker will emprunt 200,000 or 250,000 ducats; but while the interest seems reasonable the gain by the sale of the jewels well nigh doubles it, making the interest really above 18 per cent. Jasper Dowche is a man so greedily hunting after gain that in all bargains (even for the Emperor, to whom he is so much bound) he picks out a large advantage besides the sum recompensed him for his labour. Intends to tell him how, through the reports of Paget and the writer, he has the King's favour, and advise him so to travail with the Fowker in this matter that the King may think that he has been justly commended, and not to think "that he goeth abouts only t'enrich the Fowker under a colour of so small an interest." The Fowker will take the bond of London for the repayment, having therewith the King's promise in verbo reyio. Sends herewith copy of the promise which the Emperor makes in like cases, made from the original, sealed with the Emperor's great seal, "which I had lying by me one or two days."
Here are no news; only Peter Vanden"Wale hears by friends out of France that the French king will besiege Calles and Guysnes. Andwerp, 22 June 1545.
Hol, pp. 3. Add. Endd.
22 June. 1009. Vaughan to the Council.
R. O. Repeats the substance of his letter to the King as to the Fowker's loan and the valuation of the jewels by Peter Vanden Wale.
Two of the principal Spanish merchants here, Fernando de Aza and Martin Lopes, aggrieved with Jasper Dowche's obtaining the Emperor's command that all alum brought hither shall be sold to him, for the Emperor's use, at a fixed price, have entreated Vaughan (they being farmers of all the alum of Civita Vecha and having 33,000 kyntalls in their hands) to make the King an offer, on their behalf, to sell it to his Highness (if he will grant them free custom) at 18s. the cwt. and take lead delivered at Andwerp in payment thereof. Points out that this is a better offer than it looks, as the King's subjects must have alum to dye with, and the King might set his own price, and that it is hard to find ready money for lead without bringing down the price. A friend of Peter Vanden Wale's has signified out of France that the French king means to besiege Calles and Guysnes.. Andwerp, 22 June 1545.
Hol, pp. 3. Add. Endd.
22 June. 1010. Vaughan to Wriothesley.
R. O. Under the wing of Jasper Dowche, that wily fox, Vaughan is here travailing to get a good lump of money from the Fowker; but Jasper Dowche is so covetous (even towards the Emperor, of whom he receives innumerable benefits) that he probably looks for a reward from the Fowker if he sells the jewels at an unreasonable price. Peter Vanden Wale's view of the jewels shows that by their sale the interest is doubled. If Jasper Dowche were a man that esteemed honesty and a prince's favour more than a vile gain, he might do good service; but he always seeks some gain for himself, "which is a cursed and hateful manner of dealing, if he so do, as I conject." Is exceedingly desirous to have the King honestly served and will not cease to "drive forwards the jade." Writes of this matter both to the King and to the Council. Andwerp, 22 June.
Hol., p.1. Add. Endd.: 1545.
23 June. 1011. The Privy Council.
A. P. C, 200.
Meeting at Dartford, 23 June. Present: Essex, Winchester, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business:—Placard for Sir Mores Barckeley to take up post horses to Portesmowth. Letter to the Commissioners for the Diet signifying that the King approved their proceedings and how they should answer in the matters of Jasper Duchye, Carolo, Antenory, etc., "and to grope what Chappine (? Chappuis) should mean by his request to have the King to subscribe to the Emperor's treaty with France." John Fowgler of Rye, who had taken a hoy which could not be clearly proved French, commanded to keep it intact and appear again at Greenwich on Sunday next with further proofs. Letter to my lord Chancellor for a proclamation against hunting or hawking within the liberties of Westminster, as extended in a bill signed by the King.
23 June. 1012. Henry VIII to Charles V.
R. O.
St. P., x. 478.
Doubtless he has heard of the great preparations for war which the enemy, France, is making by sea and land, having collected for that purpose many of Charles's subjects of Germany, Italy and Spain to join his own in an invasion of this realm, in revenge for the war which Henry entered with Charles against him. Prays him to take order that the aid promised to each other in case of invasion may be ready and, when Dr. Wootton, Henry's ambassador, shall inform him that the invasion is actually made, to send the aid appointed by the treaties, as Henry has already done towards him.
French. Draft corrected by Paget, p.1. Endd.: Mynute of the K's Mate l're to th'Empereur, xxiijo Junii 1545.
viii, No. 76.
2. Original of the above. Dated Dartford, 23 June 1545.
23 June. 1013. Paget to Wotton.
R. O.
St. P., x. 479.
The King has seen his letters and would have been glad to have from him or from Mr. Bucler and Mr. Mownt some longer discourse of the state of things there. As the enemy prepares to invade this realm and the King's pieces on the other side, his Majesty now writes (copy herewith) to the Emperor for aid according to the treaty. Wotton shall deliver the letter, with good words; and, after the Emperor has read and spoken of it, shall say that, albeit the Emperor is not bound to send the aid before the invasion, the King trusts that he would rather be beforehand than too late, and writes now in order that he may not come suddenly upon him and that he may send the aid when Wotton shall hereafter signify the invasion
As the Emperor's commissioners for the Diet will keep him advertised of. their proceedings, the King's commissioners are charged to advertise Wotton herewith of their doings, especially the points which they think that the others signify thither. Certain Spaniards who have two or three ships taken in the West make earnest suit to be despatched by us, as if we had nothing else to do, and refuse to be remitted to the ordinary process of the law, saying that they will complain to the Emperor. We answer that we are sure the Emperor would not bind us to attend upon private suits at this busy time any more than he would Granvele, Arras, and the others to whom he commits the charge of his estate. By the commissioners at the Diet, and by the copy of our letters to them, you will see what has been done. We wonder "with what face" the Spaniards come hither to ask restitution when all our merchants and goods are arrested in Spain. "In their talk of the aid Chapuys said that the Emperor was not yet moved therein; upon which occasion these letters be now sent thither to the Emperor."
Draft in Pat jet's hand, pp. 3. Endd.: Mynute from Mr. Seer. Mr. Paget to Mr. Wootton, xxiijº Junii 1545.
23 June. 1014. Paget to Vaughan.
R. O. The King has seen your sundry letters, and thanks you for your diligence, desiring much to have the matter ended one way or another soon. His Majesty mislikes not the practice of which you wrote, for alum to be brought hither in exchange for lead, and would know what quantity might be brought and at what price the merchant will look to utter it. "Here is one come to Dymok for much what like purpose, to whom I have given none ear, nor intend not until I hear from you again. As for the coiners, we care not for them if they be so hard to be gotten. We desire to know (if it were possible to be known shortly) what number Peter van Geldre, who is now here, hath amassed together. The Scottish priest (fn. n3) is sure enough. We would hear more of Bragamont, whom we mistrust to be a false knave and to practise with you. Touching the Lorener you shall do well to give warning to the merchants, and in case there be any such that haunteth their company to cause them to devise some mean to bring in to (air) trouble." Dert[ford], 23 June 1645.
"I will speak to the Queen's receiver for you."
Draft in Paget's hand, pp.2. Endd.: Mr. Seer. Mr. Paget to S. Vaughan.
23 June. 1015. The Privy Council to Thirlby and Others.
R. O.
St. P., x. 481.
The King has received your letters and seen those to "me, the Secretary," and approves your answers both apart to Chapuis and also to the Commissioners. In the matter of the river and bridge and "boutes," albeit [its setting forth now seems strange and] (fn. n4) it is, as themselves prescribed, no matter for the Diet, if they speak of it again you shall offer, as of yourselves, although it be out of this commission, to enquire of the Deputy and Council of Calais therein, and shall take occasion by that and the ill air of Burborough, of which Chapuys complains, to induce them to lie at Calais for a while, where none have died of the sickness this month; for to lie continually in a town of the Emperor's does not stand together with the King's honor; but that is remitted to your discretion. The King looks daily to hear from Mr. Vaughan whether Jasper Duche does such service as he promised; and [you may say that] his is a special case and not to be taken for an example, and that you marvel at their saying that, had it been known that Antenory and De Carolo would not be recompensed, the arrest would not have been released, they being the Emperor's subjects because married and dwelling in Andwerp; for one man's fact, not yet proved, to stay in Spain all our goods and merchants, imprisoning such as can find no surety, seems more discrepant from the agreement at Bruxells for the general relaxation of arrests than the stay of one or two ships with "some appearance of matter." The King's subjects, who when they sue for justice in Spain are repelled as heretics (and here you shall engrieve the process in Spain, where the Emperor's officers admit slanderous exceptions touching the King's honor and dignity) and, when they sue here for the same remedy that is used against them in Spain, find the King unwilling for private quarrels to infringe the amity, cannot be greatly blamed for what they do against the Spaniards. They complain that Spaniards have not justice here when all Englishmen and their goods are under arrest in Spain. What justice had our men in Flanders upon the first arrest of the Flemish hoys here? Either they think that we are afraid of them or that we are beasts. To think us always wrong and themselves right, to charge us with breach of covenants when they break first, to bind us to the words of a treaty when it serves them and use a glosed interpretation when it makes against them, to repute a Florentine or Frenchman dwelling in the Emperor's country to be their subject and not to repute the Emperor's subject dwelling in France to be a subject there, to judge our subjects' matters depending in the Emperor's ordinary courts unmeet for the Diet and to bring thither their subjects' matters already determined in the King's courts, to expect all their "provaunces (as they call them)" to be allowed, and refuse ours as insufficient, "devising to reprove them by the testimony of our enemy"! The King would have them told of this vehemently, and yet by way of friendly complaint.
Among their doleances was one of certain merchants of Lisle, which has been ended as favourably as the parties could wish, as appears by two letters, enclosed, from one of their partners (fn. n5) who pursued the matter. Sir Nich. Poincts dwells 160 miles hence, and, being appointed to the seas in the West, may be departed; but we will send to him and do as much as possible for the knowledge of the matter. The King has considered Chapuis's discourse, to whom you shall say that you notified it to a friend in the Council, who writes that he has mentioned Chapuis's good will, which the King takes thankfully, saying that he never doubted it, and the less because Chapuis confirmed it at taking leave ; but that as for Chapuis's question "What hurt were it if the King's Majesty subscribed to the treaty with France?" your friend would know more plainly what it meant before opening it to his Majesty. In this you must "grope the fox;" for either he would indirectly get the King to confirm Darras's saying that the King was content with the peace, or else he would set forth the overture he made here to have the King stand to the Emperor's arbitrament (as the French king is bound by his treaty) for the pension and arrears; at which we think that the King would not stick if he might have the peace common to both and keep what he has conquered in part recompense for his charges. Where he asked what agents the King had with the Princes of Almayn, and what Christopher Mount was, you shall say that, upon his question, you wrote to know the certainty, and learn that, (fn. n6) upon these Diets in Almayn and in Trent, the King sent a servant thither to report occurrents, and appointed his servant Mr. Mownt, who is sojourning for a time about Spyres to learn the practice of the civil law, for his knowledge of the tongue and country, to assist the other. And in case they ask who the other is you may name Mr. Buckler.
Finally, as the Emperor's commissioners doubtless advertise the Emperor of their proceedings with you, you shall advertise Mr. Wootton likewise of your doings, especially of points which you think grievous, that he may be able to answer as occasion shall require.
Draft corrected by Payet, pp. 11. Endd.: Mynute from the Counsaill to the Commissioners at the Dyet, xxiijo Junii 1545.
R. O. 2. Earlier draft of the preceding, without the last paragraph.
In Paget's hand, pp. 6. Endd.: Copie of the Counsailles l're to the Commissioners at the Diet. For my lord of Hertf. Endd. by Hertford's clerk: R. iiijto Julii 1545.
Galba B. x.,
B. M.
3. Original letter of which §1 is the draft. Dated "from Darteforde, xxii[ijth] of June 1545." Signed by Wriothesley, Essex, Gardiner, Browne Wingfield and Paget.
Pp. 5. Fly leaf with address lost. Endd.: The Counsell to the Commissioners for the Diet, xxiiijo Junii 1545.
Ib. 215. 4. Contemporary copy of § 3 without the date.
Pp. 3.
Lansd. MS. 5. Later copy of §4.
171, f. 71b.
B. M.
Pp. 6.
23 June. 1016. Thirlby and Others to Paget.
R. O. The Emperor's ambassadors today delivered the enclosed supplication and letters as received this morning from the Regent, praying us to commend the suit of the party, who is now going into England. They complain of the taking of their men daily. This man will give good caution to answer the value of the goods if proved French. Burbarough, 23 June. Signed: Tho. Westm' : Will'm Petre : Edward Carne : T. Chambrelain.
In Petre's hand, p. 1. Add. Endd.: xxvjo Junii 1545.
23 June. 1017. The Bishop of Ajaccio to Cardinal Farnese.
R. O. It is said that 22 ensigns of lanzknechts have arrived at Calais to aid the English king, but the news is not certain. The Chevalier d'Aus, captain of the galleys which have been made here, was lately at anchor off Boulogne when six English ships aided by the tide came upon him so unexpectedly that he was forced to cut his cables and only escaped with great difficulty. It is affirmed that Mons. di Lorges is arrived safely in Scotland with his men, munitions and money. "Dalla sua abbadia di Caen, a xxiij di Giugno 1545."
Modern extract from a MS. at Rome, p. 1.
23 June. 1018. Charles V to M. de St. Mauris.
* * * *
iii. 156.
Touching the war against England you will do well always to speak of the peace in accordance with what you last said of it, as we have held like language to the said ambassadors (i.e. Grignan and Mesnaige) assuring them that all possible diligence is made about this with the English. In this Diet we are still seeking to induce the Protestants to submit to the Council of Trent, but there is little or no likelihood of it. * * * The Queen our sister has written that the Sieur de Reynach, with certain Germans and others, French subjects, daily pillage our countries and maltreat our subjects, as also do those who pass and repass daily towards Boulogne and Guisnes, so that our subjects are worse treated than if there were open war. You shall represent this to the King and request him to provide against it as amity requires. It has been mentioned to his ambassadors here.
* * * *
Wormes, 23 June 1545.
24 June. 1019. The Privy Council.
A P. C, 201.
Meeting at Dartford, 24 June. Present: Essex, Winchester, Browne, Wingfield, Paget. Business :—Whereas on 20 June a letter was written to the mayor of Plymouth to deliver the Mary of Dunkercke to John de Quyntanaduenas, upon surety, a letter was this day written signifying that the said John had entered bond for that purpose. Copy of the bond of Ant. Bonvisy, merchant of Lucca, and Ant. Mocuelo, merchant of Spain, as sureties for John de Quintanaduenas for the above, by which it appears that the Mary of Dunckercke, master Allayne Gyles, carried 246 bales of Vittry canvas, laden by the said John, of Bruges, in the name of his father Gomes de Quintaduenas (sic), of Burgos. Letters to the parson of Rotherffeld, who had failed to obey the order to forbear taking possession of Bucksted parsonage (which he "had gotten from Parson Lovit upon pretence of the vacation thereof") and appear before the Council, to appear at Greenwich on Sunday next; also like letters to the collector who certified Parson Lovit recusant.
24 June. 1020. The Privy Council to Thirlby and Others.
See No. 1015 (3).
24 June. 1021. Peter Hayman to Thos. Hales.
Hist. MSS.
Report x.
App. vi. 82.
I was imprisoned on Saturday last for 40l., and today I had been sent to the Fleet but only that my lord Chancellor, at great suit, has given me some days' "respect." I owed not 20l. Since my coming up I have paid above 280l.
Add.: at Canyngton.
2. The same to the same.
Concerning money due. Undated.
24 June. 1022. Paget to Norfolk.
R. O. The King has seen both your letters, to me and to the whole Council, and takes their contents in good part. We are sorry that the messenger behaved so lewdly in the slack delivery of your letters. He shall be punished. My lord Admiral stayed certain hulks for an enterprise, but they fled away; and, my lord your brother, lord Clynton and Sir John Barkley pursuing them, Sir John was, by "the breaking of a base in his own ship, stricken through the breast and so out at the shoulder blade," and lies at Portsmouth in great danger, "for whose recovery, if it be possible, the King's Majesty sent thither immediately." My lord Admiral is stayed by weather in the Downes, with Sir George Carewe, under orders to go to Portsmouth. The Frenchmen have revictualled Ardre and make great brags against Boleyn. Out of the North we have little, save that Lord Maxwell's practices serve to small purpose. The King means to send for him back, "contrary to his desire working means to get home into Scotland." The Princes of Almain "do not come thither," so that the Emperor is like to return without doing anything. The King writes to the Emperor for the aid in case of invasion, and is content, "so as he may keep Boleyn and have peace," that the Emperor mediate between him and the French king for the pension and arrearages. Dartford, 24 June 1545. Siqned.
P. 1. Add.
24 June. 1023. Lisle to the Council.
R. O.
St. P., i. 790.
Perceives by their letters of the 21st inst. that the King will have the enterprise he suggested "put in ure." Have been tormented with storms and strainable winds; and on Sunday night last the 21st., while lying "a quarte seas over towards Bechiff," divers of the hulks attempted to steal away in the darkness. They were perceived and followed by the swiftest ships of the fleet, whereof Sir John Barkleye in the Lesse Galley, being foremost, thought to stop them by firing a saker, but it burst and he was stricken through the body with a fragment of iron, as will have been already reported by the captain of Portsmouth. It was 9 o'clock next morning, and they were "a kennyng" beyond the Wight, before the hulks were collected again. That night rough weather compelled the fleet either "to hold up again with the Narrow Seas or else to put ourselves in with the Wight"; and so, to join the rest of the army coming out of Thames and the Henry and Mary Roose in the Downs, they came hither, arriving yesterday afternoon. Of the ships out of Thames only the Smale Shalopp which conveyed the Lord Great Master to Quynbroughe is with him, having come on Saturday morning. The rest are at Gravesend "upon payment," and so have missed the wind to bring them round the Foreland. Have lost all the hulks except seven, which however will serve for the purpose that shall be put in ure as soon as weather permits. Hoys passing from Roan into Flanders report certain Brytayn ships which came with the Burdaulx fleet as awaiting the next easterly wind ; and he sent two of the ships of Bristowe, his own two ships, a handsome bark which a servant of Mr. Southwell's has here upon adventure, John Winter's bark, and two of the boats of Rye, on Sunday last to await their coming forth. No men of war are on this side Brest. On the same day, sent the Newe Barke and the Jennett with two Rye boats to scour the coast as far as Diep. They captured two hoys laden with canvas from Roan, apparently "freemens" (q. Frenchmen's?) goods, and three pinks with powdered cod bound for Roan. The hoys are brought into Rye, and report that the French navy in Newhaven and thereabouts cannot come forth for a month or more, but tarry for the galleys and army from Brest, which is looked for daily. Will deliver the pinks with the fish to Thomas Rolf, the King's purveyor.
Copy, pp. 3. Headed: Copie of my lorde Admyrall l're to the Counsaill, xxiiijth of June 1545. Endd. by Paget: Copie for my lord of Hertf. Also endd.: Copie of my lorde Admyralles l'res to the K's Mate and the Counsaill, sent and rec. by my Lorde 5to Julii 1545.
24 June. 1024. Hertford to Paget.
R. O. When Seignior Gamboa was at Calais lying near Arde to encounter victuals coming to its relief, this bearer Francis Loopes, who had provided 550 hackbutes to carry to Bulloigne, was caused by lord Cobham, in the King's name, to deliver 176 of them to Gamboa for such of his company as lacked (to be paid for at 20s. apiece out of their wages). Afterwards one of the Spanish captains called Archee and sixty of his retinue ran away into France with the same hackbutes, so that bearer is not paid for them. Gamboa has paid for the rest, but ought not to pay for those sixty; and yet either the King or he must pay, and he is content to do it if the King will not. Requires this to be declared to the King. D[arneton,] 24 June 1545. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
24 June. 1025. Petre to Paget.
R. O. This morning Chancellor Nigri, before Chapuis's coming to our common place of meeting, showed us a letter, apparently from Mons. de Rieux, concluding that the Frenchmen are in great want of victuals and money, that the Almains coming to serve the French king remained about S. Quyntynes devastating the country, and refused to come further until paid, that in their late journey to revictual Ardre they did no hurt save to the Emperor's country, where they wasted much corn and grass upon the ground, and that they fear that if the Emperor join, the King France is undone.
(fn. n7) After that "in cometh inveteratus ille dierum malorum" (fn. n8) and talked of the matter we have written to the King, What it means God knows, but in the minister is only "poison, malice and a lewd liberty of speech." Sometimes he tells a fair tale, devised before, but ever in the end shows himself to be the " man that is reported interturbare omnia."
We talk daily but conclude little. We have again perused with them their answers to our general complaints; and when they have nothing to say they allege that what is taken by them is nothing to what is taken in England. Surely they aim to have like customs and payments on both sides, and when we allege the treaty they "either add a glose of their own or say a sentence hath been given otherwise or the custom hath been contrary." When we reason against a sentence given by themselves for their own benefit "they lack no words though reason fail." In their suits of Spain and others I see not the advantage of having their good if they give a caution of as much value, and yet the thing would appease them much. Pray help us to know the King's pleasure touching Jasper Duch and other private matters. Burbarough, 24 June.
Hol, pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1545.
24 June. 1026. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O. Jasper Dowche lately showed me letters written to him from Lyons by which certain "banks of merchants there" desired a finance of 400,000 cr. for the French king upon sureties of towns at 5 per cent, for a mart, which is 20 per cent, for the year. I think this true and not a device to drive forward our present bargain. I despatched my servants in post towards you with the Fowkers resolute answer on the 22nd. Herewith are letters from Mr. Buckeler. Andwerp, 24 June.
Hol, p. 1. Add. Endd.. 1545.
24 June. 1027. Privy Council of Scotland.
Regist., 5. Meeting at Stirling, 24 June. Present: Queen, Governor, Cardinal, bps. of Dumblane and Orkney, earls of Huntly, Argyle, Bothwell, Montrose and Rothes, abbot of Dumfermling, lords Erskin, Flemyng and Ruthven, Secretary, Clerk Register. Business: Court of Session removed from Edinburgh to Linlithgow on account of the pest.
25 June. 1028. The Privy Council.
A. P. C 202.
Meeting at Dartford, 25 June. Present: Browne and Paget. Business: Letter to lord Poyninges, because of plague at Bullone, that none from thence come to Court until "they shall have been abroad and aired." Letter to the sheriff of Essex not to meddle within the rule of Pirgo, and to dismiss 16 men whom he had already taken there to be sent to Guisnes.
25 June. 1029. The Duke of Lauenburg.
R. O. Offer made by Hinrick Daldorp, on behalf of Francis duke of Sassen Engerenn and Westhpfalenn, &c, to Henry VIII, of 500 well appointed horse on six conditions ;—of which the first is that they be not employed against the Holy Roman Empire. Thursday after St. John's day, Anno '45. Sealed.
German, pp. 2.
25 June. 1030. —— to his Son, ——.
R. O.
Lysona' Magna
At Darbie, 25 June 1545:—Describes at length destruction wrought by a great tempest on Saturday last, St. Alban s Day, in the forenoon, in Nedewood, 9 miles from Da[rbie], Enwalle (?), where one Mr. Powret dwells, Langley, 4 miles from Darby (where Sir Wm Basset's place was damaged, and also "Awsten's house of Polles," and Awsten's son and heir was killed), Wydley Lane, Belyer, Brege, Wynfeld manor, the earl of Shrowse-bery's, and Manfyld in Shirewood. It is said to have done much hurt in Chesshire and Long[ca]shire. There "fell in some places hails[tones] as great as a man's fist, and some of them had prints upon them like faces.'
Apparently a copy, pp. 2.
25 June. 1031. Hertford to Henry VIII.
R. O. Upon his late suit the King granted him the college of Saincte Mary Oteryes, Devon, for 3,000 mks. Finds now that the charges in pensions, rewards, &c, and in maintaining priests because it is a parish church, will be so great as to leave him rather behind hand than relieve him. Is moved by necessity to beg that, in lieu of the said college, he may have the college of Beverley, in these parts, which is not a parish church and has few incumbents resident, "and also the provost and one or two of the prebendaries but children." It is in value, besides the tenth, about 500l., or 200l. more than the other, and the pensions to be granted upon the surrender will amount to 300l. Having the reversion of it to leave to his son, will sell most of what he has ; and will pay more for it than for the other as the King shall appoint. Would rather have a less thing in the South were it not that, with the King's favour herein, he might provide for his household and horses, both now and hereafter, and be always ready to repair hither upon two or three days' warning. Dernton, 25 June 1545. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.: My 1. of Hertford to Mr. Seer. Mr. Paget (sic).
25 June. 1032. Hertford to Paget.
R. O. Is compelled to make a suit to the King, being so far in debt that he must either break up his house and draw to some corner for a season or else sell some of his land. The thing he now requires (fn. n9) will be about 200l. in reversion more than the King has already granted him, and, although no great charge to his Majesty, will be a great assistance to him, as bearer his servant will declare. Trusts ere his return to do some service "whereby his Highness shall not think the same ill employed." Commendations to my Lady. Daruntun, 25 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: 1545.
25 June. 1033. Thirlby and Others to Henry VIII.
R. O. This day, at our meeting with the Emperor's commissioners, Chapuis said that, understanding that your subjects' goods were arrested in Spain, he had written to the Emperor, and this morning received answer that, albeit the agreement at Bruxelles was that "navigation should not be letted of either side," Spaniards and others, his subjects, daily complained that they were spoiled upon the seas, their goods taken and themselves beaten and entreated worse than before, and though they offered caution in England they could not get their goods ; it seemed as though some other thing were meant, and Chapuis asked why our merchants carried their merchandise hence, for he was told ten days past that one met 20 wagons together laden towards Callys with cloths and English wares sent back from Andwerpe. We answered that we thought that report untrue, for "I, the governor," had heard nothing of it, and knew that cloth was daily sent thither; but, with the great navy which the King sets to sea and the rumor of French preparations, it was no marvel that our merchants did not send so plentifully as they were wont. The Chancellor said that he had heard a like report and gave it no credit. Chapuis then said that, to return to matters of Spain, unless remedy was provided their merchants must forsake the traffic, and the Emperor had both told your ambassador so and written it to his ambassador with you, and wished us also to signify it to you, with this addition, that the Emperor understood that there was no likelihood of any good end being taken in this Diet, "especially for the complaints of private persons." We replied that we marvelled not though one or two Spaniards did molest the Emperor, for we had known some of them for a matter of nothing make ado as though the heavens should fall; your Majesty had given strait commandment to your captains to use the Emperor's subjects friendly and would punish any who should offend, but we marvelled that attemptates of private men, especially men of war, were so set forth; in the. Emperor's wars with France, when your merchants were daily robbed, beaten and even slain, only the doers were blamed (and most of them left unpunished), whereas now, if one Spaniard did but say that he had suffered wrong such a matter was made of it as though ten treaties were broken. "Nay," said Chapuis, "th'Emperor writeth this not so much for one or two facts, which nevertheless may not be suffered, but for that it is almost common, and most of all because when they sue and offer caution to the valor of their goods they cannot be heard; and therefore I pray you (said he) write to the King's Majesty hereof." We said that in order to write more fully we prayed him to show what answer was made touching the letters of reprisal or arrest in Spain. He said he thought that answer was made therein to your ambassador, for his letters were very short. We told him that we marvelled at his receiving no answer, seeing that the other matters were attemptates of private men, but this was done by public authority against the manifest words of the treaty, and against all law and reason; you had heretofore refused letters of reprisal, although forty persons had each received great injury, and now such letters were granted in Spain for one man's act; and, as to their offering caution, they made their suits as though all your weighty affairs must be omitted when one of them complained, refusing to be remitted to justice but troubling your Majesty or your Council. Chapuis said it would not take long to receive their caution; and we asked why, if the matter appeared manifestly against them, should their caution be received. They remembered again the matters of the jewels, of Jasper Duche, and of Antinory and Carlo; "which Carolo dwelleth in Andwerpe with his wife and family and was born in Myllayn and is the Emperor's subject." Burbarough, 25 June 1545. Signed: Tho. Westm': Will'm Petre: Edward Carne: T. Chambrelain.
Pp. 5. Add. Endd.
Galba B. x., 2. Contemporary copy of the above, undated.
B. M.
Pp. 4.
Lansd. MS. 3. Later copy of §2.
171, f. 70.
B. M.
Pp. 4.
25 June. 1034. Chapuys to Charles V.
viii.. No 77.
Whilst in conference with the English deputies this morning, received the Emperor's letters of the 19th and concluded by giving them the contents. In doing so, set forth the injuries committed since the agreement in Brussels with Secretary Paget; and added, unofficially, that such intolerable injury might compel the Emperor to take steps to save his dominions, which depended so much upon commerce. The Deputies were astonished to hear that such things had been going on since they left England, and that goods were not "restored to the owners against security ;" they themselves thought that security should only be required when goods were presumably French ; they had written about it three or four days ago but would write again, and the delay was probably because most of the Council were absent organizing defence, and the rest overworked; but their King had much more reason for resentment at the seizures in Spain, which had not been released, and where reprisals had been authorised, although the English had not refused to punish the men whose acts gave rise to them. Replied that it was true that the punishment of Renegat was promised, but he was welcomed at Court instead ; their people were in a hurry to withdraw from the Flanders trade. They answered that the King had raised 300 sail, and all seamen were gone to his service, so that maritime trade must cease, but they (one of them being the Courtmaster of Antwerp) knew of no Englishman who had withdrawn merchandise from Flanders. Westminster, however, twice let slip that merchants were doubtful of a rupture between the King and the Emperor owing to events in Spain.
Has written to the Chancellor of Brabant to suspend making the arrest for which the Emperor wrote (unless he sees imminent danger of the withdrawal of English property) and advertised the Ambassador in England. Bourbourg, 25 June 1545.
25 June. 1035. Chapuys to the Chancellor of Brabant.
viii, No. 78.
This morning received letters from the Emperor of the 9th (qu. 19th ?) inst. enclosing copy of last letter to you touching the arrest of English goods. The Emperor orders you to explain the arrest as intended to indemnify certain Spaniards for the seizure of three ships; and as the English deputies here give me hope that these ships will be restored, you had better, unless there is imminent danger, defer acting until the Emperor has news from England. Bourbourg, 25 June 1545.
25 June. 1036. Chapuys to Granvelle.
viii., No. 79.
Is astonished that in the Emperor's letter to the Queen he is quoted as the authority for the news that the English were secretly withdrawing their property from Antwerp. Only told his man to write that trade with Spain was prohibited in England, and that English commerce with Flanders was daily diminishing: Jehan de Quintana Done, indeed, reported seeing between Gravelines and Bruges over 20 waggon loads of English merchandise coming from Antwerp; but he is an interested party, and Chapuys never meant his report to be conveyed to the Emperor. Has written to the Chancellor of Brabant as in the copy enclosed. Sends extract of letters written yesterday by De Roeulx to the Chancellor of the Order. If it be true, the Emperor may for this year avoid having to grant the aid requested by the English. Has long thought that the French would repent bringing galleys up here, where, besides danger from enemies and pestilence, they can be of no service, and none of the convicts can survive the winter. The Germans mentioned in the extract (although the French call them 10,000) are not 8,000. Bourbourg, 25 June 1545.
ii. [Extract above referred to.]
The French fear the Emperor's rejoining the English, which would ruin France. The Germans in Champagne are unpaid and disorderly. They will not march from Noyon until paid ; and could not march against Boulogne for want of victuals. The French troops are unpaid, the nobility impoverished and the people ruined. In revictualling Ardres they wasted all the wheat in the Emperor's country from the river Falkenberg to Tournehen, and are constantly committing outrages there. At Crotoy was seen an abandoned galley, all the slaves having died of plague; and the other galleys fear a like fate.
25 June. 1037. Chapuys to Granvelle.
viii., No. 80.
This morning the English deputies again raised the question of the reprisals authorised in Spain, and showed the Prince's order. Almost forced them to admit that this was not a decree of reprisals, as it only ordered seizure of English goods to the value of Renegat's depredations, and told them that they seemed to allow greater licence to Renegat, who commenced reprisals, than to the Prince; the Prince probably heard how Renegat was welcomed in England and allowed to retain his plunder, while Spaniards who had lost property found restitution delayed. The Deputies, after blaming Renegat, seemed sorry that they had mentioned the matter. Bourbourg, 25 June 1545.
25 June. 1038. Bertram Haghe to John Johnson.
R. O. Bruges, 25 June 1545 :—Commercial matters touching Thos. Melady and the sale of wools.
Dutch. Hol., p. 1. Add.: te Cales.
25 June. 1039. Privy Council of Scotland.
Regist, 5. Meeting at Stirling, 25 June. Present: Queen, Governor, Cardinal, bps. of Dumblane and Orkney, earls of Huntly, Argyle, Bothwell, Rothes and Montrose, abbots of Dumfermling and Paisley, lords Flemyng, Ruthven, Seton, Ross, Lindesay, Simple and Yester, lord George Douglas, Clerk Register. Business :—Collectors of the tax of 26,000l. to make their certificates at Linlithgow on 12 and 15 July next.


  • n1. So, notwithstanding the record immediately preceding (see No. 997).
  • n2. The sentences with asterisks prefixed are printed in full in St. P., x. p. 465.
  • n3. See No. 930.
  • n4. This passage not in § 2.
  • n5. Henry Garbrand. See No. 998.
  • n6. This is substituted for the explanation given in § 2 which runs:—"that as hia Majesty sent lately into Italy certain to provide for his Majesty men of war in those parts, so some of them be returned with commission to join with them Mr. Mownt, his Majesty's servant, as well to get for his money certain horsemen and footmen to serve him, as also to travail that his enemy should have none there, or at the least as few us might be; like as his Majesty also hath of late in that behalf sent to some of the cities of the Hans, whither, as he knew, his enemy had sent special messenger for that purpose."
  • n7. This paragraph is printed in St. P. x., p. 484.
  • n8. Evidently Chapuys is meant.
  • n9. The College of Beverley.