Henry VIII: December 1523, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 3, 1519-1523. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1867.

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December 1523

11 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 119. B. M.
3625. MAGNUS to [DACRE].
Has received his letter sent by John Moore, the bearer. Is sorry he could not come to Morpeth. Wishes he could return. My lord Treasurer takes much pains to serve the King, but is "some deal suspicious, and woll conjecture far enough, and soon wolbe moved to be hasty;" as of late, when the Tyndale men resisted Sir Rauff Fenwik, he accused some one, either of those about him, or Dacre, for reporting that he was leaving. Told him the report must have come, either from himself, or his own servants. Does not know how he would take it if he were to leave now, not knowing his mind, or the cause of his sudden return.
Has not heard that the footmen on the Borders are doing any good, but they are a great expense to the King. Thinks the horsemen should continue, as they were appointed by Surrey, and it is thought he will soon be returning. If Dacre put them out of wages, they would not know the true reason, and would grumble at him. If Surrey return, he will be sure to remember the scarcity of money here, on account of his own wages and his servants'. Expects to hear from him in ten or twelve days. If not, will go southwards. "And where your lordship writeth in your letter, ye suppose that everything will come again into my hands, I assure you, my lord, when I read that clause, I flushed all upon a sweat, doubting that ye would procure the same, as I trust verily that your lordship well remembered will not do" till Magnus is discharged of his accounts here, and for the wards' lands and Buckingham's lands, which have not been well looked to by reason of his absence here. Knows nothing of Leonard Musgrave, for he was in the Treasurer's retinue. Surrey's servants say he is to continue in wages; supposes he will remain as before. Newcastle, 11 Dec.
Hol., pp. 2.
11 Dec.
Calig. B. II. 266. B. M.
3626. DACRE to WOLSEY.
My lord Treasurer departed from this country on Thursday, the 3rd, and Dacre entered as warden. Found 1,730 men in garrison. As the border fortresses are thrown down, discharged 500 footmen, who could not help an invasion; so there remain 1,219 (sic), all of this country, except certain gunners, 500 of whom he would have discharged, but that my lord Treasurer intends speedily to return hither, and left only 686, enough for defence, distributed as follows; sc., in Berwick, 100 gunners, besides the new crew of 50; in Norham Castle, 80 men; in Wark Castle, 60 men; with the lieutenant of the East March, 100 men; with the lieutenant of the Middle March, 100; with the Warden, 100; for keeping watch day and night upon the Borders, 100; on the West March, for keeping watch and "skurage," 30 men and 12 gunners. Begs to know the King's pleasure.
Hears by spies that Albany is about to leave Scotland. His ships are ready on the West coast. A pursuivant has just arrived with instructions in French from Albany to my lord Treasurer, and a credence. Has forwarded the former, and sends copy to Wolsey. Detains the pursuivant for Wolsey's answer. Morpeth, 11 Dec. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: My lord Legate.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 127. B. M. 2. Copy of the above, in Dacre's letterbook.
Add. MS. 24,965.f.127b. B. M. ii. "Copie of the duke of Albany's instructions."
To take a truce till Midsummer, or for four or five months, in the King's name, if Surrey will consent to it. Albany will then go to France while it lasts, even if it is prolonged till the King's majority. Allies and confederates on both sides must be comprehended, without condition. When the English and French ambassadors have consulted, Surrey shall advise for the best order for concord and peace between the two realms, and through all Christendom. These matters are put into his hands because "he is called right good, and better willing to do a good deed than an ill." "Forasmuch as the intention and effect of him which hath sent for their explectier under their seals to such end that by them and their good will and diligence is felt, and for the honor of God and the reasons above said he may be the beginner and moshener to the coming of a more greater and general wealth, the which without a good beginning, and the grace of God withal, may not be done; and the much more shall be put, the sooner of the one side and the other, the more shall the things be deficell and taken."
If Surrey approves of it, he must send a secret man of his council, with power to accept and declare the truce, "having the semblable of the same under the king of Scots' seal." Surety shall be given that Albany will go as soon as his ships and victual are ready, and the wind serves. "And to send the said ambassadors aforesaid unto him, having such surety for his passage to be requisite and sufficient discharge of the said lord of Surrey, the which things there may be answered to the intent with extreme diligence is desiring to be known."
Pp. 2.
11 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f.127b. B. M.
3627. DACRE to SURREY.
Since Surrey's departure, has had no news but that Albany is on the point of leaving Scotland. Today Carrik pursuivant came from him with a message to Surrey. Sends a copy of his instructions, but he will not show his credence to any but Surrey. Retains him till he knows Surrey's pleasure, and has given him a safeconduct, not knowing whether Surrey would be returned before receiving these letters. Was told by Magnus he would return shortly. Sends a copy of the instructions, translated into English, to Wolsey. Morpeth, 11 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
12 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f.136. B. M.
Has received his letter dated Hannesworth, 4th instant. Hopes that his father's words proceeded from evil information. It were an unnatural thing if he continued in this mind. Advises him to say that he will leave the ordering of himself and Dacre's daughter, his wife, wholly in his hands, but to show him that his feoffment will not keep him at court, that it would be discomfort to him and dishonor to his father not to live according to his rank, and that he will be content to make a composition for board wages, which Talbot's servant says his father suggested. If his father is displeased with him, absence would only make the displeasure continue; "for it is an old said saw, 'Far from the eye, far from the heart';" whereas, if he remains, and behaves as he should do, his father will withdraw his displeasure. Morpeth, 12 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2. Headed: Copie, &c.
12 Dec.
Vesp. C. IV. 278. B. M.
Has received his letter in Wolsey's behalf, concerning the Papal election. Had already written on the subject to his ambassador at Rome, as the King will hear from the ambassador with him, to whom Charles has written. Hopes Henry's wishes and his will be accomplished. Bourbon has sent the sieur de Lursy to him. Has written to his ambassador his opinion concerning what should be done. Wishes for the King's advice as soon as possible. Pampeluna, 12 Dec.
Hol., Fr., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: L'ræ Cæsareæ Matis manu propria, 12 Dec. 1523.
12 Dec.
Vit. B. V. 235. B. M.
Was much rejoiced, at Ferdinand's entry into Nuremberg last November, by the cheerful countenance with which the English ambassadors met him; for he felt sure that this embassy would result in a renewal of the former treaty, which he heard the other day would be the case. They have executed their office so well that, though he has long admired Henry's virtues, he now has no hesitation in devoting himself to his service. Compares his writing against Luther to the combat between David and Goliath. It was expected Luther would confess his errors. Exhorts the King against the heresy, against which he also has written. He will learn the state of affairs from his ambassadors, and principally Edw. Lee. Is grateful to him for being appointed one of his chaplains. Nuremberg, 12 Dec. 1523.
Hol., Lat., pp. 4, mutilated. Add.
12 Dec.
S. B.
3631. To CARDINAL WOLSEY, Chancellor.
Warrant to pass under the Great Seal as many of the King's letters "plagardes" as shall be presented to him for the relief and favor of divers Frenchmen and Scots whom the King has taken into his protection, and licensed to dwell in England by his said letters; which, not having passed under the said Great Seal, are insufficient in law for the discharge of the commissioners authorized under the Great Seal to seize the bodies and goods of all French and Scotch subjects in England. Windsor Castle, 12 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
13 Dec.
Calig. B. I. 137. B. M.
Nominates James Stewart, canon of Glasgow, to the monastery of Dryburgh, void by the death of David bishop of Lismore. It was necessary to appoint one who would zealously rebuild the monastery, the whole country about being wasted by the English, who spare neither sex nor age, Stirling, id. Dec. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: "Rmo, &c. cardinali S. Eusebii rerum Scotiæ promotori dignissimo."
13 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 132. B. M.
3633. MAGNUS to DACRE.
Has received his letter dated Morpeth, Friday, with copies of the instruction from Scotland, and his letters to Wolsey and Surrey, which he returns. Hopes some good may ensue by this motion. Asks if he shall let my lord Treasurer know that Dacre has made him privy to these matters. Apologises for not having been able to come to him. The effect of the instruction proceeds from the messages carried by Mr. John Cantelay. Thinks that though he came from the Queen, the Duke was the director of his coming. He made good report, and had cause so to do, for he had 10l. reward each time, and the last time had 200 angels for the Queen. Doubts not that Dacre will show the pursuivant good cheer, if he stays with him. His message is honest and thankful. Asks Dacre to see that Robson, the post, has his wages. Bought 10 loads of hay from the abbot of Blanchelande, who was here yesterday, at 10s. a load. If it is not all spent, will leave the rest in store, in case he come again before Midsummer. Newcastle, Sunday, 13 Dec.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
13 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 129. B. M.
3634. MAGNUS to DACRE.
Letters have this morning arrived from my lord Treasurer for his steward and for Dacre. Sends the latter. No writing has come for him, and he will send for his horses, and leave as soon as they come. Asks for news. "Here be sudden mutations," for in Surrey's last letter he said he should remain here continually. His house here is furnished again with oxen, sheep and other provisions to last till Christmas. Newcastle, Sunday, 13 Dec., between 11 and 12.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
14 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 134. B. M.
Has paid his brother, Sir William, a fortnight's wages for their retinues and their father's. He is to discharge 20 of his footmen in Norham Castle, so that there will remain 70, and 10 gunners, with his father's 100, at 6d. a day. Asks him to deliver the two letters enclosed to Sir Roger Grey and to Sir Wm. Ellerker. William Bulmer, who is captain of 100 men, must come in all haste to receive wages for himself and his retinue, for he intends to discharge them. Desires him to furnish 50 countrymen, at 8d. a day, to keep day and night watch, as follows: 3 in Twissill; 3 in Heton; 6 in Etell; 6 in Forde; 6 in Fenton; 10 in Woller; 6 in Lilburne; and 10 in Ilderton. Will pay their wages. Morpeth, 14 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
Ibid. f. 134. B. M. 3636. The SAME to SIR ROGER GREY and SIR WM. ELLERKAR.
Desires them to send servants with the names of their retinues, and the places where they lie, and to receive a fortnight's wages, which are due tomorrow. They are then to be discharged. Morpeth, 14 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
14 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965.f.134b. B. M.
3637. DACRE to SIR WM. EURE, Lieutenant of the Middle Marches.
Has paid his uncle a fortnight's wages for his (Sir William's) retinue. Hears from the Cardinal and Surrey that the latter will not return soon, and that his servants have gone southwards. As Albany is either going away or gone, wishes John Heron and Robt. Collingwood, with their companies of 100 men, to be discharged. Will pay their wages if he will send a list. Twenty watchmen must be appointed in their stead, from Yerdhop to Ingrame, where Eure thinks best. Their wages will be 8d. a day. Morpeth, 14 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
Calig. B. II. 254. B. M. 3638. THOMAS LORD DACRE to [WOLSEY].
On discharging the garrisons and giving them conduct-money, mustered them, when, as appears by bills signed by the different captains, many of them lacked; viz, Sir Wm. Bulmer, absent these three weeks; his son Wm, come with his retinue, only 62 persons instead of 190; Sir Marmaduke Constable, who should have had 193, had but 63; Sir Ralph Ellerker, who should have had 50, had 34; Master Arthur Darcy, who should have had 100, had 72; Sir Richard Tempest had his full number, all but two; Sir Wm. Yvre lacked so many of his 100, that he neither came to muster, nor asked conduct money. Nevertheless each of the captains had wages for their full numbers. Signed.
P. 1.
14 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 129. B. M.
3639. DACRE to MAGNUS.
Has received his letter, dated Newcastle, 14th inst. Has no news but hears from some persons that Albany is departed. Dares not as yet "write up thereof," but will do so in three days, for he believes there is no doubt of it. Has discharged part of the garrisons. Asks for his good word at his "arriving above." Sends Chr. Thrilkeld for the 40 mks. Morpath, 14 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
14 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 130. B. M.
3640. MAGNUS to DACRE.
Sends a letter from Surrey, dated the 9th inst., which had been waiting in Yorkshire to be delivered to him there. His horses have arrived, and he will leave on Wednesday morning. Has received 40 mks., mostly in pence, for the tackling of a ship sold to the Mayor by Surrey. Asks if Dacre will take it towards the King's expenses. Newcastle, 14 Dec.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
14 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965.f.128b. B. M.
According to his letter received from Chr. Thrilkeld, sends his said servant for finishing his account of Norhamshire. There is due to him (Dacre) 32l. 14s. 4d. from the late Bishop, &c. Must also be paid for works at Norham during the time of war, both when Robt. Athe was clerk of the works, and before then, deducting 8l. 5s. for oxen bought of Athe. Sends an indenture concerning it. Morpeth, 14 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
14 Dec. 3642. For the MONASTERY OF TAVISTOCK.
Writ to the escheators of Devon and Cornw. for restitution of its temporalities on the election of John Peryn as abbot, confirmed by Thomas cardinal of York. His fealty to be taken by Rob. Toneys, clk. Westm., 14 Dec.
Pat. 15 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 23.
R. O.
Has received his letter and credence by John Cantley. Was not at Stirling when he arrived, but came thither immediately. Will do her best to fulfil the King's pleasure. Has already sent him the letter she received from the Lords, and that of the Governor. Sends now her answers, which she despatched when Cantley was with Surrey.
The Governor and Lords came to Stirling on the 9 Dec. After speaking to her son, Albany asked her why she was displeased with him. She promised him an answer next day before the council, when she told them they had needlessly put Murray, Cassillis, Fleming and Borthwick about her son's person, who had been kept hitherto in perfect security;—that she had given them no cause of suspicion to justify her detention from his presence, but it was done for hurt to the King her son;—that she held them in great suspicion, seeing they objected to her presence, and if anything happened it would lie to their charge. On this the Governor took an instrument, that if the Lords would not fulfil their obligations, he would hold them responsible for any "inconvenient" that might occur. Next day the Governor came to the King and Margaret, and showed them the order devised by the Lords, hoping they would be satisfied with it. The King said he would be content with whatever was for his good. Margaret answered that she had told him and the Lords her mind already, adding that she understood he had sent for 800 of his Frenchmen, who were to have passed to the West Sea, and that he intended to take the King to another place;—that she had promised before the Lords to be a good Scotch woman, and accept whatever was for the good of her son.
On leaving, she took an instrument before witnesses "that I revoked anything that I did at this time, for it was to eschew a greater inconvenient." Afterwards the Governor, in her absence, desired of the Lords licence to depart to France, without speaking about his return. He had already prepared ships for his passage, but the Lords refused, saying that, if he did, they would discharge their bonds to him, and disown his authority; but, if he would remain, they would give him the profits of all benefices, and the temporal lords would spend their goods in his service. By this he would have had as much to spend as Margaret; nevertheless he insisted on leaving. They sat three days discussing the matter, and Albany consented to remain till Candlemas. He means to keep his Christmas in Edinburgh, to dispose of certain benefices that he has promised to different persons without giving them surety. Some of them are given to temporal lords, like Arran and Argyle, who, Margaret thought, would not have gone over to the Governor. This expectation made her "the starkar at my opinion; bot I had natt on parson that toke my part, nor that vold dysplez the Gowarnor."
Begs Surrey to show this to the King. Is resolved to bide with her son as long as she may; but the Lords are evidently bent on separating them, and will not answer her of her living according to their own bonds, or allow her to coin gold and silver to meet her expenses. They say they cannot help her to her conjunct feoffment while the King, her brother, makes war on them, and they know not where any other help may be got. If she is to live with her son, Henry must contribute to her support, as he has done already in part. Will do as he commands her, and have as few servants as possible.
Margaret asked the Governor and Lords in parliament why she was holden suspect, and not allowed to be with her son. She was answered by the Lords appointed to attend him, that she was Henry's (fn. 1) sister, and would, perhaps, take him into England, "and that that (they ?) knew perfectly that the King, my son (brother ?), would do more for me than for any other." She answered that her deeds had shown otherwise, and she could prove that the imputation was made in malice. Henry will see how she suffers for his sake. Hopes he will let them see that he knows this, but not by her, and that he is much displeased that such things should be laid to her charge. He should also send to her to ask if they had done so, and wonder that she had not informed him, declaring that he would not suffer her to be wronged. This would make the Governor flee for fear, and the Lords fall from him; for he is in the greatest dread of England, and dares not trust Scotchmen to fight for him, fearing they should betray him to the English. Requests Surrey to labor a good way for the security of her son and herself; for next the King, her brother, she is most beholden to him. Has received 200 mks. from the King, her brother, by John Cantley. Is grateful for this help, otherwise she would have had to leave the kingdom, although the Duke and the French ambassador here offered her a pension of 5,000 crowns from France to maintain the French alliance. Begs Surrey to procure her a speedy answer, and keep this letter secret. If he goes to court he will not forget her interests. If anything else occur, she will send it to Surrey by Sir Wm. Bowmar.
Hol., pp. 12. Begins: My lord of Souray.
15 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 146. B. M.
Bids him, with the assistance of the Master Marshal and George Lawson, muster Candishe's 100 gunners, of whom John Cook, petty captain, and 13 gunners, are at the wages of 8d. a day, and the remaining 87 at 6d., and to send him their names in a book, stating who is able, and who not able. Will then provide for their wages. Morpeth, 15 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
15 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 143b. B. M.
3645. DACRE to CANDISHE, Master of the Ordnance in Berwick.
Has written to the captain of Berwick to muster his 100 gunners. He must discharge his clerk at 12d. a day, and the other five persons at 8d. Morpeth, 15 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Headed: Copie, &c.
15 Dec.
R. O.
3646. CHARLES V. to DE PRAET, his ambassador in England.
Has received his letters of the 15th and 20th Sept., mentioning that Bourbon had agreed to the articles offered to him by Russell on the part of the King, with the exception of the second, which he remitted to Charles's pleasure. De Praet is to tell the King and Wolsey that the Emperor is pleased to hear of Russell's success, and urge the former to send power to his ambassadors here to place these articles in the form of a treaty. He must show them the necessity of supporting Bourbon, and of keeping their promise to him. Has arranged for the payment of the 100,000 cr. for his Almains, by exchange in Italy, and has repaid the Velzers what the Archduke borrowed from them. He must press the King to pay his contribution.
Writes by the bearer to Bourbon, and encloses copies of his letters, to be shown to the King. The bearer must not be delayed. As to the delay in the preparation of his army, had ordered it to be ready by 20 Aug., but heard from the English ambassadors that the King wished to put off the expedition of Bourbon until he and the Emperor were ready for their enterprize, and that he had asked Beaurayn to communicate this to Bourbon; but he was delayed till the end of August, leaving Charles in uncertainty. Immediately on his return Charles ordered his captains to go to Logrogno, and sent money to pay them; but it was necessary to wait until Bourbon's affairs could be safely communicated to the Grand Master here, and Charles could declare his intention of making the enterprise in person. Another reason for delaying it was the fear of the discovery of his plan for surprising Bayonne, Fontarabia, and other towns. The first would have been surprised, but for the wind, which prevented the fleet from entering the river to join the land army, which returned with a booty worth more than 80,000 ducats. After this, the whole affair was well known, and some of the principal agents taken; and for two months there was no news of Bourbon, nor of the expeditions in Picardy and Italy; so that his councillors here advised him not to enter France so late in the year, on account of the danger of the passes being stopped by the snow, but to wait till spring. Continued, however, to send his artillery and other troops from Pampeluna to be ready for the passage of the mountains, but a report was spread that he would go to Italy and France, and not return to Spain, nor recover Fontarabia, which hindered the levying of infantry, and made many return home, so that fresh men had to be levied in Navarre, Arragon, Catalonia and Valencia.
Has reduced Biscay (la terre des Bascos), and recovered St. Jehan Pied de Porcq, which has been in the power of Henry d'Allebreth since the entry of the French into Navarre. The troops in St. Sebastien have gone to join the rest of his army in France, and with them the constable of Castille. Stays here to dispose of the remainder. Begs Henry not to be discontented with the delay, or attribute it to his fault. Will for the future fulfil everything that has passed between them.
Considering the present state of affairs, it is needless to think of the great enterprise, except to finish it in the most complete manner, which would be either the ruin of France, and the recovery of the places unfairly held by it, or compel France to take honorable conditions. Expects from the Italian news that they will soon be able to use most of the army there against France. They would enter by Provence or Daulphiné, according to Bourbon's advice, and assist the navy, which is now at Genoa under the command of Don Hugo de Moncada; but as on their leaving Italy the contributions from the league for its defence would cease, the King must contribute to its support, as he formerly offered by Boleyn and the Dean of the Chapel (Sampson).
Desires him to send the King's answer to the instructions lately sent, and to say that the Archbishop of Barry has arrived with proposals from the French king, of which a copy is enclosed, by which De Praet will see what they propose for peace. Gave the Archbishop audience in presence of the English ambassadors, and returned him for answer a writing without a signature, of which a copy is enclosed. Sends the Italian news, and a letter from the cardinal of Como, showing his hope of managing the Papacy, according to the wishes of the French. Wishes for news of the English army, and of his own par de la. Pampeluna, 15 Nov. 1523.
Since writing, received their letters of the 6th Oct. on the 23rd Nov. Wonders at their delay. Sends a copy of letters from Bourbon, dated Anguessy, 31 Oct., brought by the sieur de Lurssy, which mention the failure of the lansquenets. The Duke wishes to visit the Emperor in company with Ponthievre and others. He wished to accomplish his marriage, and to carry the war next spring into Burgundy, so as to be near his country and friends. Sends a copy of the instructions to Beaurayn, who is going to Bourbon, to be communicated to the King, that he may arrange for his contribution of 100,000 cr. for the Duke. Wishes for his advice about the war for next spring. Thinks one good army better than several small ones, which communicate with difficulty. Bourbon's advice should be asked as to the place of their operations. The Italian army would be most convenient, with an addition of Almains and Spaniards, and joined to Bourbon's army. The expense beyond that already promised by Henry, and what the Emperor can obtain from Italy, Milan and Genoa, should be divided equally between them. In this manner they would do much more injury to their enemies. (To this paragraph there is a note by Tuke: "It may be perceyved by this divice and overture that there is litel power at home in Spayn.")
Was much pressed by the archbishop of Barry to listen to proposals for peace. Communicated with the English ambassadors, and by their advice allowed the Archbishop to write to France the letter of which a copy is enclosed. De Praet must consult the King and Legate about this, and ask them to send instructions to their ambassadors, who have no orders to this effect. The army here has not done much, owing to the reasons mentioned, and d'Albrecht's son has refused to grant them a passage and victuals. They have nevertheless taken Sola, and the town and castle of Mauleon, which belongs to the duchy of Guyenne, and are now besieging Saulveterre in Bearne, which they hope soon to gain. Sends a duplicate of these instructions by Beaurain, and has given him their cipher, that they may correspond with him.
Hears that on 19 Nov. the card. De Medicis was elected Pope, but has had no news of it from Rome. Wishes the bearer to be sent immediately to Flanders. (fn. 2) Pampeluna, 15 Dec. 1523.
Fr., copy, pp. 12. Add. Two endorsements pasted on: "All in French." "All French matiers."
16 Dec.
Vesp. C. II. 226. B. M.
3647. CHARLES V. to [WOLSEY].
Had written to Rome already in behalf of Wolsey's advancement to the Papacy before he had received Henry's letter to that effect. Has written again, as Wolsey will learn by De Praet. Lelier has come from Bourbon, to whom he is despatching Beaurain on their common affairs. Pampeluna, 16 Dec.
Hol., Fr., pp. 2.
17 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 106. B. M.
Has today received his letter dated Nawarde, 14 Nov., with 100l., and an acquittance for another 100l. Sends back his obligation. Hopes to meet him in London, where John Myres, the bearer, says he will be soon after Christmas. Has told Myres what communication he has had with my lord of Northumberland about the marriage of his daughter Mar[y] with lord Percy, which he trusts will take effect at the beginning of n[ext] term. Hannesworth, 17 Dec. Signed.
P. 1, slightly mutilated. Add.
17 Dec.
Add. MS. 24,965. f. 134b. B. M.
Received yesterday his letter dated 10th inst., asking for his opinion on the articles of the marriage between his son and lady Parr's daughter, and that he would be sorry if "any longer drift were made therein." Unless he married his son to an heiress of land, which would be very costly, does not think he could marry him to so good a stock as lady Parr's, considering her wisdom, and the wise stocks of the Grenes whence she is come, and of the Parrs of Kendal. For all wise men, when they marry their children, look to the wisdom of the blood they marry with. There is only one child between lady Parr's daughter and 800 mks. of land. Mentions this because of the possibility that fell to himself by marriage. His demands and lady Parr's are so far apart that it is almost impossible they should agree. Advises him to take the common course of marriage, 100 mks. jointure, for 1,100 mks. to be paid, 400 or 500 at the covenants, and 100 yearly. If either die before consummation or the age of consentment, the sum received to be repaid unless a new marriage can be had between the younger children. Thinks it would be well, though it should not be in the covenants, that his son should live with lady Parr for the next three years, he finding him clothing and a servant. He would learn there as well as in any other place "as well norture as French and other language." Morpeth, 17 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2. Headed: Copie of a lettre to my lord Scrop, aunswer to this lettre herunto annexed. (fn. 3)
17 Dec.
R. O.
3650. The LOAN.
Receipts by Sir Henry Wyat for 386l. 9s. 4d. and 405l. 11s. 10d., part of the loan in anticipation of the subsidy granted by the laity, 15 Hen. VIII., from Thos. Hacche, and ... Gilberde, collectors in Devonshire, 16 and 17 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII. Signed.
R. O. 2. Receipt by Sir Henry Wyat for 4l. 1s. from Thos. Hache, collector of the loan in anticipation of the subsidy granted by the laity, 14 Hen. VIII. ... 19 Hen. VIII. Signed.
18 Dec.
Vit. B. V. 237. B. M.
In their last letters stated that the French army had left the siege of Milan, and was returning to France. The said army remains within 14 miles of the city, on the Ticino, where they have been for three weeks. The Pope keeps neutral, but, by his entertainment of the French cardinals, seems rather to favor the French. He has, however, assisted Milan privately, and done all that could be expected, except declare himself openly, which he will not do until he receives Wolsey's and the King's advice on the points mentioned in their previous letters. Think that if they mean to prosecute the war, the Pope should be moved to declare himself openly, for the delay serves France, whose army would have been destroyed if the Pope had done what he could. Advise him to cause delay of obedience to be made to the Pope till he knows him every way, "quia Judas non dormit ... the nation of [Fl]orentines is much given to the French faction, and how the Pope will be persuaded by them at length it is hard to say."
The viceroy of Naples, with 3,000 foot and 500 men-at-arms behind him, has passed Modena to join the other army. The French cardinals, who endeavor by all means to make the Pope take their part, have told him that Albany has slain 10,000 English on the Borders, and that the French army has put the King's in great peril at the passage of a river. The letters they have received inform them of the contrary, and the French themselves sometimes do not deny the success of the English army, its approach within a day's march of Paris without a battle, and the great waste it has made.
There was much talking for a time of the Emperor's coming into France by Spain. Bourbon has been at Mantua, and is gone to Jean, whence he will go to Spain. Luther's sect increases in Almain, and is admitted by Surrike and two or three other Swiss cantons. They claim much money of the Pope as due from Leo, and its nonpayment increases the favor in which the Lutherans are held. The Pope is much troubled about it, and, if princes stick not fast to him, will be more troubled hereafter. He is sending to the next diet a friar who was lately in Denmark as Adrian's commissary, "and was of their part that drave out the K[ing] ... minded to have sent him pro nuncio to the King's hi[ghness]." Advised him not to do so, as he was too busy a friar and a meddler, especially between princes and their commons. "He [is] somewhat learned, and bold enough, and therefore he is sent into Almain in hope that a face shall do much in the matter, as we pray God it may." The cardinal St. Crucis, the Queen's godfather, and the cardinal of Grassis, bishop of Bononye, are dead. The Pope has given the said bishopric, worth 3,000 ducats, to Campeggio.
Pp. 3. Copy by Wolsey's clerk. Mutilated. Endd.: The copy of letters sent from my lord of Bath and other the King's ambassadors being at Rome, of 18th of December."
18 Dec.
Vesp. C. II. 228. B. M. St. P. VI. 211.
Wrote in their last of the receipt of Wolsey's letters dated 4 Oct., concerning the death of the Pope, on which the Emperor dispatched a post to Rome. On 1 Dec. a gentleman arrived from Bourbon near Genoa, stating that De Medici was Pope. They had news that the Emperor's ambassador had bestirred himself in Wolsey's favor, but "the people of Rome, with great threats, advised the Cardinals to make none election of any that should be absent." Notwithstanding the discomfiture of the French in Italy, the siege of Milan continued until 14 Nov. It is stated that the French are between the Ticine and Milan; that the Almains are at mutiny by the treason of count Furstenberg, and had left Bourbon. Report their conversation with the lord Chancellor, touching the war. The Chancellor is very desirous of peace. News came on the 5th of the surrender of Malleon de Sola to the Emperor.
Movements of the army. Accompanied the Emperor to church on the 6th. He talked to them of the desirableness of a truce, and thought of sending the archbishop of Barri to France, and wished commissioners of all parties to meet. Thinks his opinion has since changed, and that he intends to prosecute the war in Italy, and that Bourbon is to be the Emperor's lieutenant. Charles hopes the King will continue the entertainment of the Duke; to which the writers said they could give no answer. They are in despair here "that their army should be able to do any feat notable." On the 14th Beuren left for Italy. On the 17th congratulated the Emperor on the surrender of Salvatierra. On the 18th the Emperor told them that he had determined on the return of his army to Fontarabia. He does not wish Jerningham to join the army until the siege of Fontarabia. Pampeluna, 18 Dec.
P.S. (in cipher, deciphered by Tuke).—They do not want to have Jerningham with the army.
In Sampson's hand, pp. 13. Add.
19 Dec.
Vesp. C. II. 236. B. M.
3653. SAMPSON to [WOLSEY].
The secretary of the archbishop of Barry has returned from France. Copies of letters of the French king and his mother to the Archbishop have been sent to the Spanish ambassadors in England, to be shown to Wolsey. Wrote to him yesterday. The Emperor will do nothing without Henry, and, if the King likes, will have a time appointed for a meeting of the commissioners of all parties. Jerningham has gone to the army; which, Sampson thinks, will shortly be discharged. Pampeluna, 19 Dec.
Hol., pp. 2, with apostyle by Tuke.
20 Dec.
Vesp. C. II. 237. B. M.
3654. SAMPSON to [WOLSEY].
Wrote yesterday. Beaurain's secretary (Chastel) has arrived with letters from Wolsey of the 6 Nov. Had read the letters that passed between Wolsey and Suffolk. At a meeting of the archbishop of Barrie, De la Roche and others, had been shown a minute of the letters to be sent to France, stating the Emperor's willingness for peace, to which Sampson objected till his master's mind was known. In this he was joined by the Chancellor. Delivered the King's letters to the Emperor; just received. Urged the Emperor not to disband at present. He complained of poverty;—said he had heard that the English army had retired. Sampson's answer. Said nothing of the 100,000 crowns for Bourbon, "because that he is so skalyd." He will order Prospero Colonna to pursue the French returning from Italy. Pampeluna, 20 Dec.
Hol., pp. 5, with apostyle by Tuke.
20 Dec.
Add. MS. 15,387. f. 94. B. M. St. P. VI. 218.
Could not but regret the death of his predecessor as dangerous to the universal quiet. The election of Clement, however, has given the greatest satisfaction to him and his kingdom. Windsor, 20 Dec. 1523.
Lat., copy, pp. 8.
20 Dec.
R. O.
3656. For WM. BOLLS, Clerk of the Customs, London.
Licence to use a cross-bow or hand-gun, excepting in forests, parks and chases. Windsor, 20 Dec. 15 Hen. VIII.
Copy, p. 1.


  • 1. "That I was your sister" is Margaret's expression, who apparently forgot that she was addressing Surrey.
  • 2. The last paragraph of this despatch is given by Bradford, p. 91, from the original minute, and contains a further clause, that the duke of Sessa had been doing all in his power to promote Wolsey's election.
  • 3. This letter is not now in the volume.