Henry VIII: July 1528, 21-25

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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'Henry VIII: July 1528, 21-25', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530, (London, 1875) pp. 1980-1987. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol4/pp1980-1987 [accessed 1 March 2024]


July 1528

21 July.
R.O. St. P.I. 321.
I have received two of your letters, dated Tittenhanger, the 10th, desiring the preferment of Sir Giles Strangwisshe and Sir Edw. Seymer, master of my horse, to rooms vacant by the death of Sir Wm. Compton. I send a list of the offices and the fees appertaining. I presume you mean that one of the said gentlemen is to be preferred to the stewardship of Canforde.
It was signified to me by the Cardinal that it was your pleasure, when any office fell vacant, that I should dispose of it, considering the great number of my servants who have no other reward. Hearing, then, that the stewardship of my lands in Dorset and Somerset shires was void, I have disposed of one of them to Sir Wm. Parre, and the other to Geo. Coton, who attends upon me. Sheriffhutton, 21 July. Signed.
P.1. Add. Endd.
ii. Lordships belonging to my lord of Richmond and Somerset.
Dorset.—Canforde, Corfe Castle, Cockden hundred and the Isle of Purbyke. The steward's fee is 100s.
Somerset.—The borough of Milborn Port. The manor of Kingesbury Regis and the hundred of Horethorn. The manor of Quene Cammell. The lordship of Martock. The hundred of Stone and Cattisayshe. The manor of Coryrevell. The hundred of Abdyke and Bulstone, and the borough of Langporte.
The steward's fee is 6l. 13s. 4d., besides 60s. for his clerk.
R.O. 2. Duplicates of the two preceding documents, in the same hand.
Love Letters,
The approach of the time which has been delayed so long delights me so much that it seems almost already come. Nevertheless, the entire accomplishment cannot be till the two persons meet; which meeting is more desired on my part than anything in the world, for what joy can be so great as to have the company of her who is my most dear friend, knowing likewise that she does the same. Judge then what will that personage do whose absence has given me the greatest pain in my heart, which neither tongue nor writing can express, and nothing but that can remedy. Tell your father on my part that I beg him to abridge by two days the time appointed that he may be in court before the old term, or at least upon the day prefixed; otherwise I shall think he will not do the lover's turn as he said he would, nor answer my expectation. No more, for want of time. I hope soon to tell you by mouth the rest of the pains I have suffered in your absence. Written by the hand of the secretary, who hopes to be privately with you, &c.
21 July.
R. O.
I have this day put the King in remembrance of the letter of his own hand, which he said he would write, but he complains of his head, and therefore is not disposed to write at present. Tomorrow he intends to go to Grafton, to stay the Thursday, and return on the Friday. I will get him to write without fail, when I can. I beseech you continue gracious to my poor brother the archdeacon of Oxford, for whom I thank you. Ampthill, 21 July. Signed.
P.S.—There is no news here. The King is well, saving his head. My lady Rocheford and Mrs. Anne cometh this week to the Court. My lord Rocheford was to have come, but because of the sweat he remains at home.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
Love Letters,
Is perplexed with such things as her brother will declare to her. Wrote in his last that he trusted shortly to see her, "which is better known at London than with any that is about me; whereof I not a little marvel, but lack of discreet handling must be the cause thereof." I hope soon "our meeting shall not depend upon other men's lyght handylleness but upon your own. Written with the hand of hys that longeth to be yours."
21 July.
R. O. St. P. I. 320.
Sends letters, dated the 20th ult., from Valladolid, containing nothing of importance, excepting the enlargement of the King's subjects, with orders of the Empress for restitution, as at that time neither Ichingham nor Sylvester had arrived. Sends letters from my lord of Bath, containing news of the progress of the Almains in Lombardy, with a good hope that Naples is by this time taken; stating also that Sylvester had entered Spain, and that Guienne herald, sent by Francis to offer duel, had returned. The Emperor intends to make answer by his herald, desiring a safe-conduct; which the French king refuses, unless the Emperor give him option of place, to which it is supposed he will never agree. "So that, I trust to God, these young courageous passions shall be finally converted into fume." I have made an expedition for your dominion of Ireland in no small agony of mind, and weakness of head and stomach. I send intercepted letters, written in Italian, and translated into Latin, by which you will perceive what labour has been made to the Pope on the Emperor's behalf to impeach your secret affair; and though the answer may have been wisely made by the Pope to avoid jealousy, a good eye must be had to that matter, and specially to the journeying of the Legate, lest it be delayed on the pretence of the gout or other cause. I purpose by my present letters to accelerate the Legate, and I expect to hear of his arrival in France. Hampton Court, 21 July. Signed.
Lambeth, 607, f. 2. St. P. II. 136.
"Certain considerations to be showed by way of memorial unto the King's highness by Master Peter Vannys and Uvedale, moving the lord Cardinal to make the expedition of Ireland after the form and manner as was lately sent unto the King's highness."
1. Letters had been sent to Wolsey by the King's command, stating that harvest being so near at hand some other measure should be adopted immediately for the defence of Ireland; that Ossory's servant should be despatched for the purpose; and that either Ossory or his son should be appointed to defend the country. Though Wolsey was then very ill able to attend to such business, he proceeded to the devising of the said expedition. For reasons which will appear hereafter, he thinks the present an inconvenient time to discharge Kildare. The execution of all exploits might be committed to James Butler, notwithstanding his young years, his father being incapacitated by age, unwieldiness "and other passions," provided he were enjoined not to do anything without the advice of the Irish Council. Letters had been devised accordingly to the said James his father, the Council and O'Donell. 2. That the cost of defending the land may not fall upon the King, authority might be given by the Council to take coyne and livery; and the profits which the earl of Kildare enjoyed when he was there might be appropriated to that purpose. 3. The authority given to James Butler must not affect the old quarrels between the earls of Kildare and Ossory, but every question must be referred to the Council. 4. Letters should be written to O'Donnell to continue him in his loyalty, and desire him to aid Butler. 5. "There be also sharp letters written to Okoner for the delivery of the earl of Kildare's deputy, taken by fraud and under color of friendly communication."
Wolsey's reasons against putting Kildare from his room at this time are: 1. Harvest being at hand, the rebels, if not restrained by "dulce and fair means," and some hope of Kildare's return, would lay waste the whole Englishry. They would be joined by Kildare's kinsmen and servants if it were known he were in the King's displeasure. 2. As long as he is Deputy he is responsible for anything done by his party. 3. If the King is determined to make a new deputy, Ossory is more fit than his son James: if no new deputy be made, young Butler should have the charge of the defence, all his enterprises being directed by the Council. 4. Leaves it to the King whether anything should be altered in the draft letters to the king of Scots and the earl of Angwishe. 5. Patrick Sinclere has arrived here with letters and instructions from the king of Scots, of which they are to show the King a copy, and to know whether, when, and where Sinclere is to repair to the King. The substance is, 1, that nothing has been done against Angus without good cause; and, 2, a very reasonable request that commissioners be deputed on both sides to renew the truce, which expires at St. Andrew's Day, for other three years, by the end of which time the king of Scots being of more mature age proposes to treat for a perpetual peace. Thinks Northumberland and Magnus, or Magnus alone, might be commissioned to go to the Borders on this matter; who might take means at the same time to reconcile Angus to the king of Scots. Signed by Wolsey.
Pp. 14. Endd.
21 July.
Le Grand, III. 150.
Has informed Wolsey, by long letters directed to Vannes, of the contents of Francis's letters of the 9th and 13th. He is very glad of the news from Naples, and from Italy generally. The point of all my letters, Sir, is the contribution. The first time I sent to him he determined that it should commence in the middle of June. I applied to him again, and I think if I can speak to him tomorrow I shall gain my purpose, for he has consented that I shall go to the village of Hampton Court, when he will consider whether I shall speak by trumpet or by myself. I will do what I can about the advance of money, for I have not had a word yet in answer; but you must know the Angelots are worth here 69 sous, and I think they will deliver them to you for the weight, for they have no other money except these escus à la couronne, which are still worse. Let me know how to remit, or send a man to receive them. If you desire it I will try and get Wolsey to send the money to Calais free of cost.
The danger in this country begins to diminish hereabouts, and to increase elsewhere. In Kent it is very great. Mademoiselle de Boulan (Boleyn) and her father have sweated, but have got over it. The day I sweated at my lord of Canterbury's there died 18 persons in four hours, and hardly anybody escaped but myself, who am not yet quite strong again. The King has gone further off than he was, uses great precautions, confesses himself every day, and receives Our Lord at every Feast. So also the Queen, who is with him, and Wolsey for his part. The notaries have had a fine time of it. I think 100,000 wills have been made off-hand, for those who were dying became quite foolish the moment they fell ill. The astrologers say this will not turn into a plague, but I think they dream. Has no doubt the King and Wolsey will be gratified with Francis's condolences on this visitation.
I have determined to send off this despatch, not to keep you in suspense till I have seen the Legate; but till next voyage I do not mean to put hand to pen (n'ay voulu mectre la main à la plume), that I may not cause suspicion to any one; for this is a regular pestilence (n'est que belle peste), and the moment a man is dead "il en devient tout couvert sur le corps."
Thanks for remittances, &c. I am quite content to stay here, or even in Turkey, if the interests of Francis require it, and to spend all my goods if need be. All I have is but 4,000 livres of rent, and the expence being here so great, you will have to provide for the excess after I and my friends have done what we can. If I were as rich as some other bishops, or were I at a place of small expence like Venice, you should hear no complaint from me. London, 21 July.
Fr. Add.
21 July.
R. O.
I thank you for all kindness, and according to promise send you by bearer 20l., though my duty be not so much, trusting you will keep your promise for the reparations, and a letter to the abbot of St. James, for such money as he received for wood, above 7l., standing at the time of my entry. My Lord commanded me to stop it out of the money he was to receive of me. Therefore I trust you will see me no loser. Ravanston, 21 July.
P.S.—Send me word when my Lord will be at the More, and when I shall find him best at leisure. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my assured friend Mr. Cromewell this be delivered.
21 July.
Titus, B. IV. 107. B. M.
Applying for the office of under-treasurer of the Exchequer, for which he was a suitor during Sir William Compton's life. Hopes to do better service than others in that office, as Sir Robt. Lytton, Sir John Cutte and Sir William Compton had no learning in the law. 21 July.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's grace. Endd.
21 July.
Harl. MS. 421, f. 28. B. M.
i. Confession of Edmund Tyball, of Bumstede, husbandman, before Mr. Wharton, in St. Mary's chapel in the monastery of Walden, 21 July, "anno Domini supradicto."
About Christmas last heard Sir Richard Fox, parish priest of Bumstede, say in John Darkyn's house that he wished he had my lord Cardinal's authority, and he would pull down these images in the church, for he feared many sinned in idolatry. John Lond was angry with him for these words, said he would bear a fagot to burn him, and after that took his "portyse" in his hand. Sir Richard replied "that there is never a word that God ever made." At this Darkyn was very "wode," and bade him get out of his house. At the same time Fox said, "Ye make a vow or a behest to go in pilgrimage to Our Lady of Ipswich, Walsingham, or to Canterbury, and there by a candle of wax think ye do well." Darkyns replied, "Yea. How say you?" To which Fox gave no answer. After that Fox said openly that God commanded no fasting days except the "Imbren days," and men were not bound to other days, except after their devotion.
Was shriven last Lent by Fox, who, during his confession, asked him how he believed in the Sacrament of the Altar. Answered, that he believed that God was there in form of bread, Redeemer of all the world; and then Fox said, "Nay; it is but a remembrance of Christ's Passion." Never believed nor consented to this teaching, but did not disclose it. Was much in company with and very familiar with Fox.
Abjuration of all heresies by Tyball, and promise to discover all persons whom he knows to be heretics. Signed with a cross.
21 July 1528.—Wharton absolved Tyball, on his confession, from the sentence of excommunication, and enjoined him, as penance, to carry a fagot before the procession at the church of Steple Bumstede on the following Sunday, and to hear high mass throughout. Present: Dr. Jynner, Mr. Core, rector of Radwinter, Richard, curate of Heydon, John Goldyng and Thomas Turner.
Pp. 4. Contemporary foliation, ccccxxxv.-vi.
Harl. MS. 421,
f. 30. B. M.
ii. Various examinations.
15 July, "anno Domini supradicto."—In St. Mary's chapel, in the monastery of St. John, Colchester, before Dr. Geoffrey Wharton, vicar-general of the bp. of London, Thomas, prior of St. John's, Colchester, Nicholas Evererd, his commissary, and Matthew Grefton, registrar.
Thomas Turner, John Mully and John Goldyng, apparitors, proved having served citations on Agnes Pikes, the wives of John Bradley, Thomas Parker, William Raylond, Henry Raylond, John Thompson and John Girlyng, on Margaret Bowgas, Margaret Cowbrigde, John Clerk, Rose, wife of Robert Bate, the wife of John Hubbert, Richard Jonson alias Collyns, Thomas Hilles, Richard Chapman, of Boxstede, John Wyley, of Horkesley, and Thomas Parker, or, if unable to find the persons, affixed the citations to the church doors. Catharine Swayne, Margaret Cowbrigde and Margery Parker appeared; Hacker and others being sworn as witnesses. Robert Hedyll, of Colchester, was condemned to carry a candle before the procession on the following Sunday, for calling John Thompson, fletcher, "maliciose horson heretyck." John Hubbert's wife was dismissed in default of proof.
16 July.—Robert Sigar, Robert Braxstede and William Brewster were examined concerning Alice Jonson, and on the following day John Hacker. 21 July.—At Walden, John Tyball was examined concerning her.
17 July.—At St. John's monastery, Colchester, Margaret Cowbrigde purged herself, producing as compurgators Thomas Burton, Bartholomew Culpack, John Sterlyng, Robert Dowe, Emma Harkyn, Ann Christmas, Margery Draper and Joan Norman. Present: Thomas, abbot of St. John's, Richard Cawmond and Nicholas Evererd. Margaret, wife of Thomas Bowgas, produced as compurgators Alice Page, Margaret Smyth, Margaret Haile, Catharine Cristmas, Joan Fairstede and Joan Hudson.
17 July.—Thomas, abbot of St. John's, by commission from Dr. Wharton, absolved widow Denby from the sentence of excommunication.
20 July.—In St. Mary's chapel, in the monastery at Walden, Robert Fayre, Isabel Holden and John Wigen were sworn to reply to the articles; and John Craneford, Henry Chapman, William Browne, John Hacker, John Tyball and Thomas Hempstede received as witnesses.
21 July.—Joan Agnes alias Smyth, of Bower Hall, and John and Agnes Smyth, of Rydeswell, were sworn to reply; John Hacker and William Browne being witnesses.
Lat., pp. 8. Contemporary foliation, ccccxliii.-vi.
22 July.
R. O.
This day I received your letter, with one to the chapter of Lincoln, in favor of my brother, the archdeacon of Oxford, for the deanery of Lincoln; which, without your aid, had not taken effect. As the plague is at Grafton, the King will not go there. As for your wish that Wilson should have some promotion, the King is in doubt whether he shall give the archdeaconry of Oxford to Mr. Wilson or Dr. Bell. The King cannot write, in consequence of his head, and begs you will send him the presentation of the prebend of Ripon, as you promised him. The vicarage you gave to Dr. Wilson was resigned to Dr. Daycots for a pension five years ago. The King wishes you to dispatch the earl of Angus's servant. He will not fail to send you "these letters of Ireland" in two or three days, but his head is not the best, or he would have dispatched them now. He desires you to be good lord to his barber Penne, for the daughter and ward unto your Grace, of one Chevall, within the liberties of St. Alban's, for his money. It is not in value above 12l. a year, her father hath tangled it so, and laid it to mortgage for 60l. Cade can inform you of the truth. Ampthill, 22 July, about 7 in the afternoon. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. Wolsey has written at the back "intangellyd."
22 July.
R. O.
The King has written to my lord of Richmond for two stewardships in the Duke's gift by the death of Sir Will. Compton;—the one of Canforde and Corffe, and my Lord's lands in Dorsetshire, fee 100s.; the other of my Lord's lands in Somersetshire, fee 6l. 13s. 4d.;—which he wishes given to Sir Giles Strangwisshe and Sir Edw. Seymour. The King's letters mention only the first office, which cannot well be given to two persons. Sir Edw. Seymour writes that both are intended for him. My Lord, however, had already given the stewardship of Canford and Corffe to Sir Will. Parre, his chamberlain, and of the Somersetshire lands to Geo. Cotton. Encloses copy of my Lord's letter. The sweating sickness is bad in these parts, and has carried off two of Mr. Holgill's company, the surveyor of Wolsey's lands, who was at Beverley. The Duke has removed hither from Pontefract. Sheriff Hutton, 22 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate. Endd.
22 July.
R. O.
Has received his letters of the 15 July. Regrets that he should think her refusal of the stone and "calions" was but a pretence of hindrance to her town of Harwich. Requests him to take his pleasure in her said haven, be it hurtful or otherwise. 22 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
22 July.
S. B. b.
4549. NUNNERY OF ST. EDITH, WILTON, Salisb. dioc.
Petition for assent to the election of Isabella Jordayn as prioress, on Wolsey's nomination, to whom the convent, at their meeting on the 17 June last, delegated their rights. 22 July 1528.
23 July.
Vit. B. XII. 198. B. M. Burnet, VI. 26.
Promise of Clement VII. that he will grant no letters of inhibition or other letters interfering with the execution of his commission to the Legates, but will confirm their decision. Viterbo, 23 July 1528, 5 pont.
Copy, Lat., pp. 11.
R. O. 2. Another draft of the preceding, with interlineations in the King's hand, and with considerable variations from the copy printed in Burnet.
23 July. 4551. JAMES V. to HENRY VIII.
The letter printed in St. P. IV. 504, is of the year 1526, q. v.
24 July.
R. O.
4552. CALAIS.
Report of commissioners appointed by virtue of letters of privy seal, dated Hampton Court, 5 April 18 Hen. VIII., commanding the Deputy and other officers of Calais to survey the mansions, &c., lately belonging to Will. Rosse, viz., certain tenements adjoining the King's wardrobe at Calais, and others on the west side of Bollingate Street, used by his Grace as bakehouses and brewhouses, and to take the same to farm of the owners, John Sakvile and Christian his wife, for twenty years, terminable when the King no longer requires them. The report gives the measurements of the grounds and tenements, with some notices of localities, e.g., the street going from the Bullenwell northwards. The King entered on the ground in April 1512, when there were certain buildings, viz., "a woolhouse made of timber, with two gables of brick, and their chimney therein tiled with tile," well worth 20l. at that time. There was then an old barn thatched with reed, worth 6l., where a brewhouse is now built. The void ground will suit no man but the King, who has spent a great deal upon it in building two bakehouses with three great ovens to each, offices, and a brewhouse. Signed: "Per me, Wyllyam Baker, mason. Per me, Hew Flode." (Lloyde in the text).
This report of the said "landskettours" is approved by the deputy treasurer and controller, who also report on the arrears due by the King to Christian, widow of John Sakvile, which are of ten years standing, and amount to 173l. 6s. 8d., and refer it to the King's council whether the lease should be renewed. 24 July 20 Hen. VIII. Signed by Sir Rob. Wingfield, Sir Richard Weston, and Sir W. Husey.
On parchment, pp. 8.
25 July.
R. O. St. P. VII. 90.
I, the bishop of Bath, have received a short letter from Dr. Stephens, dated Venice. He says he can get nothing but fair words in the Pope's matter. He and his servants have been ill of the flux. Within two days he goes home, and expects to meet Campeggio at Lyons, whom he left at Rome, ready to start. I have also received a letter from Master Peter (Vannes) and Sir Gregory Casalys. The Imperialists have been defeated before Lodi. One Monford is in the Court, sent from lady Margaret. The King is at Fontainebleau, but next week goes to St. Germain's. Paris, 25 July. Signed.
P.S.—They are greatly discontented with the Pope here, and complain of the report made by the prince of Orange's servant to the Pope, to delay the King's matter.
In Clerk's hand. Add. Endd.
25 July.
R. O.
4554. EDW. TYNDALE to _
Thanks him for his gentleness to him "as a slow and dull witted instrument not acquainted [with my] duty to serve the time of this age." When he left London his correspondent's wife and family were all well. Hopes he has received a letter from her, which he delivered to John Bowsar the younger. Since coming home has not had perfect health three days together. Hopes to be with him at the end of this week. Hopes he has told his wife what he means to do, for the plague has taken many in the city. Advises him to send her to the country. Asks him to defer the answer of Slymbryng and Hurst till his coming. Sends a paper from Mr. Moyle, of a certain parcel of land in Hamme, Alkyngton and Bradeston. Perceives he takes much pain; hopes a good effect will succeed.
His business, after his correspondent's departure, went on very slowly. His harvest is behind, and has delayed him. Recommends himself to his correspondent's father and mother. Pulcourt, St. James's Day.
Hol., p. 1, mutilated.
25 July.
R. O.
Sends him back his horse which he had hired. He was wholly unfit to travel, and could hardly get through a day's work. He had better sell it, or keep it till Hochsteter returns to London. Reading, 25 July. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add.