Henry VIII: December 1528, 11-15

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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December 1528

11 Dec.
Le Grand, III. 230.
According to the intention expressed to Francis by the English ambassadors, Sir Francis Brian, chancellor, (fn. 1) and Peter Vannes, his secretary, the King is sending to him Will. Knygt, his chief secretary, with Will. Benet, LL.D., who will communicate their charge to Montmorency. London, 11 Dec. 1528.
Fr. Add.: A Monsieur le conte de Beaumont, grant maistre de France.
12 Dec.
R. O.
Grant by Sir Geo. Throkmerton to John Gostewik, Will. Holgill, clk., Thos. Alverd, Thos. Crumwell, and Will. Brabazon, to the use of cardinal Wolsey, of the manor of Ravenston, Bucks, of which Sir John Fitz James, Sir Anth. Fitzherbert and others, recovered seisin against Sir Rob. Throkmerton, deceased, in 4 Hen. VIII. Dated 12 Dec. 20 Hen. VIII.
Draft, Lat., p. 1.
R. O. 2. A remembrance for Mr. Cromwell to show unto my lord Cardinal's grace.
Sir Geo. Throkmerton is willing to exchange his manors of Raunston, value 26l. 13s. 4d. a year, and Towrsland and Yellyng, Hunts, value 44l. 10s. a year, for lands of like commodity, value and title in Warwickshire.
A lordship of Sir Wm. Gasquynes of the North, in Warwicksh., called Omersley; the lordship of Birmingham; any other land in the said shire, so it be ut supra.
12 Dec.
Add. MS. 15,387, f. 204. B. M. Theiner, p. 562.
As the Pope intends to create new cardinals, recommends Jerome, bp. of Worcester, for that honor. London, 12 Dec. 1528.
Lat. Modern copy.
12 Dec.
R. O. Rym. XIV. 276.
Indenture of the truce of Berwick, signed by William Scot, Adam Ottirburne and Andrew Ker, 12 Dec. 1528.
... Dec. Le Grand, III. 241. 5027. FRANCIS I. to his AMBASSADORS at ROME.
In behalf of the bearers, the sieur De Brian, and Messire Peter Vannes, ambassadors sent by the king of England to Rome, on his own private affairs, and other matters. As I hold the interests of my brother the same as my own, you are to unite with them in their suit to the Pope, and with them to make overtures for a universal peace, as agreed between the king of England and me. On this subject you will previously consult with them. I send you a power for the purpose; but the matter is of such weight that you are not to conclude anything without first sending me the articles prepared by you and the English ambassadors, with the Pope's opinion and advice.
I hear by different channels that the cardinal general of St. Francis, who went to Spain long ago, and who departed some time since to return to Italy, finesses and puts off his return, by command of the Emperor, waiting for some men-of-war whom the Emperor is sending under cover of his passage to Italy, and writes nothing to his Holiness, except to beguile him. It is to be feared, considering this delay, that the Emperor would give another venue to the Pope, especially as he feels himself at present weak in Rome. You and the English ambassadors had better advise his Holiness to raise some men of war as a guard for the defence of his person; and if the Pope should excuse himself as being unable to bear the expence, you shall tell him from me that I also have a marvellous expence to bear, as every one knows, but will nevertheless do my best to help him in this, as I believe the king of England will do also. St. Germain en Laye, ... Dec. 1528.
13 Dec.
Le Grand, III. 224.
As the packets I have sent by the ordinary posts hitherto have been long upon the road, and Wolsey informs me that he is going to despatch Dr. Kenit (Knight) tomorrow, I have determined to send this courier express to give you a summary of his charge, so far as Wolsey has informed me of it, that you may have leisure to consider it before his arrival. Wolsey proposes that we should use all honorable means to draw the Pope to our side, which will be surely accomplished if Ravenna and Cervia be placed in the hands of these two kings, as they would be a sort of guarantee of his faith; moreover, that you should give him a guard of 1,000 men, under the viscount De Turenne, and the king of England as many, under Gregory de Casalis, to put him in such surety that he will be able to proceed impartially,—which done, his Holiness, if you think fit, will send with diligence to enjoin on all princes a truce of a year and a half or two years, and, when that is concluded, summon a great assembly in Avignon, to which he shall come in person to meet Madame on the part of Francis, Wolsey on the part of Henry VIII., and the Emperor's chancellor on behalf of his master, or perhaps the Emperor himself, to be crowned there by common consent, with representatives from the other powers to conclude a general peace, with deliverance of the children. But if the Emperor cannot be brought to reason, a great expedition should immediately be prepared by all the confederates against Spain, to continue, not for six or eight months like the others, but until the deliverance of the children.
This is the substance of his proposal, for which the Pope's aid is necessary; and, if followed, he engages by means of his Holiness to make Andrea Doria withdraw, and thus break the whole designs of the Emperor. If the Pope refuse, which is not likely, the expedition against Spain should be got up at once, without any talk about truce. Moreover, he desires to be your counsellor in this, more specially than he has been for some time, in order to spur you on in these affairs, being determined for his own part not to spare his life, honor, or anything that he has. He intends to give you an account, every four or five days, of all that he thinks, and wishes a freer statement of your own opinions than he has had for some time. For this he will send over my lord of Bath, as he did last summer, and for the matter of war Master "feu Guillaume" (Fitzwilliam), the two most sufficient personages here, to be continually with you; and wishes you would send hither, to be with me, some one of Fitzwilliam's quality, that we might continually consult together. When Knight comes you need not pretend to know anything about this.
Nothing more has occurred since my letters of the 10th, except that I assure you Messire Silvester has done the Emperor as bad service (servy aussi-bien à rebours) as if you had been teaching him all his life. London, 13 Dec.
P.S.—I think, from what Wolsey said, something has been already mooted at Rome about this guard for the Pope, and I suspect that he has already obtained some assurance from his Holiness that he will do what is proposed, and that Andrea Doria can be secured. Campeggio, by his fashion of denying it, tacitly acknowledges that Doria has done nothing without the Pope's consent; but I will not be sure that he was not dissembling (qu'il ne le feist par mine), that the Pope might be held in better estimation.
Fr. Add.
14 Dec.
R. O.
Treaty of Berwick, 14 Dec. 1528.
Rym. XIV.278. Lat.
Cal. B. VII. 123.
B. M.
2. Modern copy.
R. O. 3. Another modern copy.
Cal. B. VII. 205.
B. M.
"Copy of a proclamation devised by the commissioners both for England and Scotland," on their meeting at Berwick, to the effect that they have concluded a peace for five years, and ordered redress to be made for all injuries since the meeting of Norfolk and Arran at the West Ford of Norham. It is appointed, inter alia, that no Englishman or Scotchman inhabit the Debateable Ground of the West Marches, "neither with stub, stake, nor otherwise, but with bit of mouth for pasturing of cattle," from sunrise to sunset, according to old custom. When the Wardens on both sides shall have met for redress for the Middle Marches at Kirsop Mouth, on 11 Jan. next, the next meeting shall be at the West Marches on Thursday the 14th. The day of true for the East Marches shall be at Spilaw, beside Coldstream, 8 January, and at Ridan Borne on the 4th. Signed: Will'us Scott—Androu Ker—Ad. Otturburn.
Copy, the heading in Magnus's hand, pp. 2. Endd.: "A copy of a proclamation," &c.—in a somewhat later hand, "1534."
14 Dec.
R. O.
Has received his letters dated "at your place of Dureham," 9 Dec. Will do his best to execute the King's commands, with the assistance of the mayor of Rye, the customer and controller. Has delivered to the French captain the French ambassador's letter, showing that he had given surety for the captain's making answer to anything that might be objected against them. Sends two of the Frenchmen to Wolsey, one being the captain of the French king's galleon, who has been comformable to everything required of them. His ship was so well furnished that he could not have been taken by force with the loss of 1,000 men. Trusts never to meddle with them again unless ordered by the King to put harness on his back. "They be very unreasonable people, without trusting of any man."
Hopes for the defence of Rye and Winchester that the blockhouse at the Kevill may be finished with six pieces of good artillery. As it stands on his grounds he could keep it at small cost to the King. Would annoy the King's enemies in the Camer or Podle with 40 persons rather than with 5,000 on land. Rye is in greater danger than ever; the sea goes almost round it, "not lacking at some tides twenty or thirty foot." Ships can lie within a stone's cast from the town wall, and the town would not be able to resist them. The town of Winchelsea has made a bridge over Dynesdale towards the blockhouse. Wishes Sir Will. Fitzwilliam, treasurer of the household, would view the blockhouse, and certify the King as to the expediency of finishing it. Rye, 14 Dec. Signed.
P.1. Add. Endd.
15 Dec.
R. O. St. P. VII. 116. Theiner, p. 562.
Credence for Francesco Campano. Rome, 15 Dec. 1528.
Hol. Signed: "J."
15 Dec.
Vit. B. X. 163 b. B. M. Burnet, IV. 63. Theiner, p. 563.
To the same effect. Same date.
15 Dec.
R. O.
Has just seen the chest he has so long looked for. The owner wants 8l. Fl. for it, as there is none other of like making, strength and goodliness. Will try and get him to take a lower price; if not, will buy it. Begs to hear from him. Will leave for London a month after Christmas. Begs to be commended to Cromwell's mother, "after you my most singular friend." Barrugh, 15 Dec. 1528. Encloses a letter for John Creke.
P. 1. Add.: To, &c. Maister Crumwell, besides the Fryeres Augustyns, London.


  • 1. So in Le Grand, "chancelier." Perhaps "chambellan" was the word intended.