Henry VIII: November 1530, 11-20

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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November 1530

11 Nov.
R. O.
Cumb.: Sir Christ. Dacre, *John Lamplewe, and Ric. Irton.
Northumb.: Ingram Percy, Thos. Eryngton, and *Cuthbert Ratcliff.
York: *Thos. Strangways, John Norton, and Sir Robt. Nevill.
Notts and Derb.: *Sir Henry Sacheverell, John Hercy, and Sir William Perpoynt.
Lincoln: *Sir William Husey, Sir John Thymelby, and William Dysney.
Warw. and Leic.: John Haryngton, Sir John Villers, and *Christ. Villers.
Salop: Ric. Maynwaryng, Thos. Laken, and *Sir John Blount.
Staff.: *Sir John Gifford, George Greseley, and Ric. Asteley.
Heref.: William Clynton, Thos. Walwyn, *Sir Ric. Vaughan.
Glouc.: Robt. Witney, *Sir John Walssh, and John Arnold.
Oxon and Berks: *Hen. Bruges, John Brome, and Thos. Denton.
Northt.: Sir Thos. Tresham, *Ric. Cave, and Sir William Spencer.
Camb. and Hunts: Thos. Chicheley, *Giles Alyngton, and Robt. Payton.
Beds and Bucks: Sir John Dyve, Sir Robt. Lee, and *Sir Michael Fyssher.
Norf. and Suffolk: *Thos. Jermyn, Sir Thos. le Straunge, and Lionel Talmage.
Essex and Herts: *John Brokett, Robt. Forster, and Sir Philip Butler.
Kent: *William Waller, James Pekham, and Antony Seyntleger.
Surr. and Suss.: Sir William Pelham, John Palmer, and *Sir William Goryng.
Hants: Robt. Bulkeley, Ralph Pexall, and *Sir Thos. Lysle.
Wilts: William Ludlowe, *Thos. York, and Robt. Baynard.
Somers. and Dors.: Sir Thos. More, William Uvedale, and *Thos. Arrundell.
Devon: *Sir George Seyntleger, Sir Ric. Greynfeld, and Sir William Carewe.
Cornw.: Thos. Seyntaubyn, *Christ. Tredenek, and Robt. Vyvyan.
Rutland: *George Makworth, Anthony Coly, and Francis Broun.
Worc.: (Blank).
Westmor.: Henry earl of Cumberland.
Cheshire: *Peter Warberton, Edward Lytelton, and Edw. Fitton.
Del. Westm., 11 Nov. 22 Hen. VIII.
Signed by the King top and bottom.
* Those names marked with an asterisk were chosen sheriffs by the King.
13 Nov.
R. O.
It is six weeks, and more, since Cromwell left, and he has heard no word of him. All here in good health. Gregory will be loaded with Latin before he see Cromwell again. Wrote to him of their total expences. Christopher's was something large, for the reason he stated. Gregory's and Sadler's were small, and will be smaller now that Christopher has left. No news but out of the North, "for the which vere dolco." God send better times. Cambridge, 13 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Thomas Crumwell, besides the Austin Freers at London.
13 Nov.
Add. 28, 582, f. 17. B. M.
6723. MAI to CHARLES V.
* * *
I have not a thing to produce in the cause of England. I have written to Spain many a time; and from England I am disappointed that they can send nothing. I beg you will write to Spain about it. Rome, 13 Nov. 1530.
Sp., pp. 10. Modern copy from Simancas.
14 Nov.
Add. 28, 582, f. 25. B. M.
Touching the duke of Albany and Italian politics. (fn. 1) * * * Rome, 14 Nov. 1530.
Sp., pp 7. Modern copy from the archives of Simancas.
14 Nov.
P. S.
Congé d'élire upon the resignation of Alice Colsell, last prioress. Greenwich, 2 Nov. 22 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 14 Nov.
Pat. 22 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 11.
2. Petition for the above. 20 Oct. 1530.
17 Nov.
R. O.
Form of receipt by John Wyders, clk. residentiary of St. Paul's, and receiver of the rents of the Chapter, for some arrears of rent of the manor of Barnes, Surrey, at the rate of 16l. 6s. 8d. a year, in lieu of 50 qrs. of wheat, due from Sir Henry Wiat, late farmer of the manor. 17 Nov. 22 Hen. VIII.
P. 1.
.. Nov.
Vit. B. XIII. 132 b. B. M. Records of the Reformation, II. 42.
6727. [CROKE to HENRY VIII.]
Dominicus Trevisanus, cousin to father Francis, gave Croke this morning the counsel of Marquardus, in form authentic, under a notary's sign and seal, subscribed and sealed by four doctors. Sends it by the bearer. Although orders have been given to the friars whom Croke attained, to meddle only with Cassalis, who has reserved to himself Milan, Mantua, Cremona, and Pavia, and also discharged Croke of Bologna, Venice, Padua, and Verona, yet he would have been ashamed to have sent so small a number, if he had not lacked money. At the end of this month will lack 60l. of his diets. Reminds the King that before his coming, he had obtained no subscriptions or counsels from Italy. The copies of letters from Sir Gregory, the Prothonotary, and others, of which he has the originals, show the truth of his reports. The loss of the determination of Ferrara, and the book of Rhaphael Comensis, are sufficient proof by themselves. Copies of these, and [of] Cœlius' and of Parisius' letters, he sent by Edmund [Harwell], and [no]w sends again by Pandulphus Cyna[mye].* * * ... Nov.
Pp. 2, hol., copy, mutilated.
20 Nov.
Vit. B. XIII. 133. B. M. Records of the Reformation, II. 44.
6728. [CROKE to HENRY VIII.]
The 18th of ..., on information had from the King's most faithful servant ... [that] Raphael Comensis had anew written against him, and [would] inscribe his work to the Pope, thought good to confer with him. He gloried in what he had done, saying that he would neither be nor seem to be a traitor to the [Emperor]. Reminded him that by such incons[tancy, and] often writing contrary to himself, he might be noted [to] destain his gravity and honesty. To which he replied [that it could] not be gathered from his work that anything that he [wrote for] the King was his opinion. When Croke alleged to him [the book] late printed, and the epistle sent to the King, he [said] that there was no such epistle printed by his co[nsent], for he gave it in writing and sealed [to the ambassa]tor, who gave him 8 cr. for doing so. Encloses a copy of the letter which he gave Croke. Fears Cassalis has altered many things in the epistle and work. There is not one book or epistle of them put [forth]. Rhaphael himself could not get one. [By] report of the printer there were but four epistles printed ... four printed in Italian. The Prothonotary stood [by while they were printing, and with his own hands brake the for[ms], threatening the printer with death if he discovered it to Croke. Sends a bill of all the doctors' n[ames] of the college of Padua, that the King may see how ma[ny] lack. As yet nothing is done collegialiter. All the college would gladly determine with the King, but for fear of the Senate, which has commanded the contrary. Simonetus desired Croke to promise the King up... that after Christmas he would send his book in the King's favor. He g[ave] Croke a letter from the ambassador, of which he sends a copy. And in the bill of doctors I have * * * Sends a copy of letters from Cœlius, showing the difficulty that there will be at Ferrara, and how Sir Gregory has promised the Duke's factor, who had the determination taken away, that the King will not be displeased with the Duke on account of it. Thus they never cease to "appeare" the fruit of his diligence. Is going to speak to Parisius, who has sent for him on matters concerning the cause. Padua, 20 Nov.
Hopes that the ambassador has gone to the towns of which he discharged Croke, for no one here knows what is become of him. Told him, before witnesses, that unless he did shortly some good there himself, he would accuse him before the King of forbidding him so that nothing might be done. "What he hath done at Padua, your Highness by the bill of names written unto me with the hand of a doctor being one of the judges of Padua, and by the same that he with much less difficulty a twelvemonth since might have done all that he hath done now, and much more." The correction sent to the King, by friar Ambrose, of the instrument of Padua, hinders the obtaining of the corrections which the King wants. Doubts not it would have been in much more available form, if he had not been forbidden to be privy to the getting of it. Will, however, try. The Emperor's letters to the friars are credentials for his ambassador, and promise of remembrance to those who favor his cause.
Hol., copy, pp. 2, mutilated.
20 Nov.
Add. MS. 28, 582, f. 58. B. M.
Writes concerning the projected Council, and the spread of the Lutheran heresy, touching which his ambassador, the duke of Albany, is more fully instructed. Blois, 20 Nov. 1530.
Fr., pp. 5, modern copy.
20 Nov.
Add. MS. 28, 582, f. 61. B. M.
Has spoken about the affair of England with the Cardinal named in an enclosed paper, who has shown him a letter from Henry, promising him a bishopric of 6,000 ducats for his favor. He also showed him three opinions in writing in favor of the King. Details conversations with him, and thinks if the Emperor wrote to him he might be won over. Rome, 22 Nov. 1530.
Sp., pp. 6, modern copy from Simancas.


  • 1. Several notices of the duke of Albany occur about this time in these Spanish papers, but none of importance as regards England.