Henry VIII: October 1524, 1-10

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October 1524

Expences of conveying the King's treasure from London to Newcastle, in charge of Mr. Magnus.
For 5 carts from London to Ware, 20 miles, 16s. 8d.; from Ware to Royston, 12 miles, 10s.; to Huntingdon, 16 m., 13s. 4d.; to Staundford, 21 m., 17s. 6d.; to Grantham, 16 m., 13s. 4d.; to Newerk, 10 m., 8s. 4d.; to Tuxforth, 10 m., 8s. 4d.; to Doncaster, 18 m., 15s.; to Sherborn, 14 m., 11s. 8d.; to [York], 12 m., 10s.; York to Helperby, 12 m., [10s.]; to Northallerton, 12 m., [10s.]; N. to Darneton, 10 m., [8s. 4d.]; D. to Durham, 14 m., [11s. 8d.]; D. to Newcastle, 12 m., [10s.]
Total distance from London to Newcastle, 209 miles, at the rate of 2d. a mile each cart, 8l. [14s. 2d.]
1 Oct.
R. O.
The latter part of a patent. Inc. "try view and see the accompt, reckoning and the remayn aforesaid" of the said jewels and plate, and to deliver the said remainder to Thos. Cromwell, (fn. 1) to give a discharge to the executors of Robt. Amadas (fn. 2) for them, and for all the jewels and plate delivered to officers of the household since the last account made. Westm., 1 Oct. 16 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2. Draƒt in Wriothesley's hand, corrected by Cromwell. Imperfect.
N.B.—The alterations appear to have been made when Cromwell became master of the Jewel House.
1 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 202. B. M.
Having heard of the death of the bp. of Salisbury, begs Henry to confer the dignity on him. Vienna, kal. Oct. MDXX ... (1524, marginal note.) Signed.
Lat., p. 1, mutilated.
1 Oct.
P. S.
697. For THOMAS [WOLSEY], CARDINAL OF YORK, Legate a latere.
Royal assent to the bull of Pope Clement VII., 3 id. Sept. (11 Sept.) 1524, (fn. 3) authorising Wolsey to suppress the monasteries of [Tykeford?] Sandwell, Litlemore, [Canwell?] Wallingforde, Ravenston, Daventre, Bradwell (Linc.), Tonbridge, Liesnes, Begham, "Calceto" (Chichester dioc.), Wikes, Tipt[ree], Blakamore, Stanesgate, Horkesley, Thobie (London dioc.), Poghley, Dod[nesh], and Snape, and to apply their possessions and revenues to the endowment of St. Frideswide's College, Oxford, which has been founded by authority of a bull dated 3 nones April (3 April) 1524, and of letters patent granted 19 April 15 Hen. VIII. Greenwich, 23 Sept. 16 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 1 Oct.
Partly defaced.
2 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 203. B. M.
Received, on the 28th Sept., Wolsey's letters of the 10th. Will follow his instructions about the delays of the truce. There is now [no] fear of its being hurried on, for since De la Roche's death fresh instructions from the Emperor have been waited for. All the haste was owing to De la Roche, who feared the success of the army much more than necessary. Sees now the reasons for his fear; but since he has heard of the success there from Pace, would never have agreed to any truce, except by Wolsey's orders. The Pope has not been too vehement in the matter. Since Wolsey's last letters, has been no hotter than needed. Finds the Pope minded to take only such a truce as would content the King, and thus he told Clerk to write. He thinks the King's preparations for invading France are very late, as the winter is approaching, and that they should either have been begun earlier, or else the army in Provence only maintained for this year, which would have kept the French king busy all the winter. He believes, however, that whenever the King's army crosses, it will go where it will without resistance. He does not think Marseilles will be taken, as it can be supplied with men and stores by sea, and he advises the army to go into some strong place for the winter. Pace writes on the 16th with no great hope of taking the city, but says nothing of retreating. The Pope says that Francis has 4,000 Swiss coming, but that he fears the chance of a battle. Told him that this courier was despatched in haste, as Wolsey feared the truce might be hurried on, and that the Card. had no leisure to write, but had charged Clerk to thank the Pope for the ampliation of the faculties. He was glad they had arrived; and said he had done nothing more than Wolsey deserved. Clerk is immensely gratified by Wolsey's adding a few lines in his own "most sacred hand," in acknowledgment of his services, over and above the thanks already communicated to him by his secretary, as though his secretary, who is without peer in that craft, could not sufficiently express his affection. Considers this demonstration "sufficient not only to recompense a little water and sweat spent in your business these heats past," but all the blood in his body, and even then he would not attain to the tenth part of what Wolsey had deserved of him. Rome, 2 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 3, mutilated. Add. Endd.
2 Oct.
Calig. B. I. 70. B. M.
Statement of further payments in these parts since his last, by my Lord Lieutenant's warrants, &c., viz., to the king of Scots, 500 marks; to the Queen his mother, 200 marks; to Arran,...; to Lennox, 75l.; to the master of Kylmawrus, x...; to Adam Otterbourn, one of the commissioners of Scotland, x...; to divers other Scotchmen, 16l.; to the sheriff of Northumberland, for the attaching of thieves, x...; to the earl of Cassillis, one of the Scotch ambassadors in prest,...; to the queen of Scots, for two months' wages of the guard about the King, 378l. 18s. 8d.; to my Lord Lieutenant, for his own diets, 10 marks a day for 60 days, 400l.; to George Lawson, in prest, for victualling the King's ships, 120l.; to Aungellus Itallyon, 10l.; &c. Total, 1,757l. odd. There remains in his hands... "m1 m1 ..." ready money, which will probably be increased by the sale of prizes "taken i ... hulke, and a Scottish ship by Paxforth captain of the Q ... bark, as flax and clapholt," and by the money in the hands of Wm. Pawne's son if it can be got. Newcastle-on-Tyne, 2 Oct. Signed.
P.S.—The sums paid to the king and queen of Scots, Arran, Lennox, and Kilmawrus were paid in crowns of the sun, at the rate of 5s. apiece, "wherein is saved 8d. in every crown," amounting to 136l. in all.
Pp. 2. Margin decayed. Add.: "To my lord Legate's good grace." Endd.: "Fro Robert Lord."
3 Oct.
R. O.
Account of "Master Broke to the Charterhouse," for rough nails, springs, and other nails. 1 pr. of cross garnetts, 6d.; 1 hinge, 1½d., &c. 24 Jan. 15 Hen. VIII. Total, 7s. 11¾d. Paid, 3 Oct. 1524. Signed: Per me, Ric. Broke.
P. 1.
3 Oct.
Calig. B. I. 314. B. M. St. P. IV. 153.
Since he last wrote has had sundry conferences with Angus and his brother, Sir George Douglas, a man of more knowledge and experience than the Earl. Sir George has himself spoken to him of the danger of the Queen and Arran going over to Albany, taking out the archbishop of St. Andrew's, or training the young King to the devotion of France. The Earl and his brother have given him a bill of those Scotch nobles who, they think, will take the King's part, of those who are the Earl's own friends, of those who will take Albany's part, and of those still neutral who may be won to the King's side. Sends a copy that Norfolk may ascertain whether the Earl has such a party as he pretends. Will detain him yet a day or two, to confer about certain articles, which he and his brother have agreed to. Sends a copy of them, with a letter of his own to the queen of Scots. Although Angus has offered to leave his brother as a pledge for the performance of his promises, Wolsey thinks he will be more useful if he continue with the Earl. He is therefore to be sent, honestly rewarded and entertained along with him. Norfolk will see how he has advised the Queen about the reconciliation of the Earl to herself and Arran. He is therefore to forward Wolsey's letters, with a copy of as many of the articles as bear upon that subject. He is to add his private advice to the Queen, as of himself, pointing out the danger she may incur of being abandoned by Henry. Thinks the reconciliation of the two Earls may be brought about without difficulty, as he believes they are both well ineliued to it. On the arrival of Angus, Norfolk might, on the plea of arranging this agreement, keep Angus with him, till he discover the Queen's mind about his reconciliation, and arrange his going into Scotland or tarrying, as may appear expedient. Thinks the queen of Scots will see she has no colour to refuse the King's request; and if she agree, all will go well. Magnus also on his arrival will do his best in the matter.
The King notes two things in the complaints of the gentlemen against Dacre: 1, that their grievances are only expressed in general terms; and, 2, that they say they will never submit to be ordered by Dacre, but rather leave the country. Dacre offers to make answer to any matter which can be brought against him, and must not be condemned without being heard. Wishes Norfolk's advice whether the matter should be examined there or here. Here the complainants would not be afraid to speak; they might agree to authorize two or three persons to speak for them, and the matter might be examined while Norfolk is occupied with the Scotch affairs. If, however, those matters can be brought to a speedy conclusion, Norfolk's stay must not be prolonged by the coming hither of Dacre. He must take bands of such persons as he shall think proper, to be forthcoming, and leave the rule of the Marches to Sir William Bulmer and others. On the second point, the King thinks that the complainants have exceeded the limits of dutiful subjects, in stating that they will never submit to Dacre. Norfolk must be round with them, that they may perceive their folly and presumption. St. Alban's, 3 Oct. Signed.
Add.: "The duke of Norfolk, the King's lieutenant in the North parts, treasurer and admiral of England."
3 Oct.
Calig. B. I. 313. B. M.
"Thir air ye lordis ondir writin that has givin thair special bands to the quhenis grace, na person exceppit."
The earls of Arran, Murray, Lennox, Eglintoun, Glencairn (scored out), Cassillis. The lords Maxwell, Glamis, Awindall, Livingston, Sympill, Halkat, Symmerfill.
P. 1.
3 Oct.
Calig. B. II. 17. B. M. St. P. IV. 157.
Received his letter, dated Windsor, 16 Sept., by Carlisle herald, thanking him for his services to his nephew. Will always do his best for the weal of his prince and for the good of peace. If Angus come to Scotland it will be prejudicial to the King's government and to peace. Begs, therefore, he may be detained a prisoner in England. Linlithgow, 3 Oct. Signed.
Calig. B. III.
126. B. M.
2. Copy of the above.
Headed by Tuke: "Copy of the earl of Arran's letter to the King's grace." Endd.
3 Oct.
Calig. B. II. 235. B. M.
Received his letter by Carlisle herald, stating that as soon as the ambassadors entered England, two of the King's servants should visit Scotland. Is glad his services are remembered. It was reported since Carlisle arrived, "and on an man be me belevit," that Angus had been sent into Scotland. If so, no treaty for peace can go on. Surety must be given that no such thing take place. He can always support himself against Angus. At Kynnerly, 3 Oct.
Copy by Dacre, pp. 2. Headed: "Copy of the earl of Arran's letter to my lord of Norfolk."
Cal. B. III. 123.
B. M.
2. Another copy, in the same hand.
3 Oct.
R. O.
Last year divers writs of subpœna having been directed into this country, Wolsey, in a letter to my lord of Norfolk, then earl of Surrey, directed that when not at the King's suit they should be put in continuance for the counties of Cumberland, Westmor., and Northumb. There was one subpœna hung on a door in Carlisle, obtained by Roger Tempest against John Leghe, who has been 12 years constable of Carlisle Castle under Dacre. Dacre could not spare him, being himself continually attendant on Norfolk in the East Borders; but he now makes appearance, as the sheriff has an attachment against him. Tempest had claimed some ground by right of Eliz. Leghe, his wife, in Hilary Term 14 Hen. VIII., and brought 42 subpœnas against John Leghe and the other tenants. The case was referred to some of Wolsey's Council, but Tempest refused the same. Proposes an adjustment by Wolsey. Nawarde, 3 Oct. Signed.
Pp.2. Add.: "To my lord Legate's grace."
4 Oct.
Lettere di Principi, I. 136.
The French king having unexpectedly crossed the mountains, and captured Milan, and the Imperial army having retreated, the Pope sent the datary (Giberto) to the French king and the viceroy of Naples to negotiate an agreement. He has great hopes of peace from the information he has received of the dispositions of the French king and the Emperor, and he believes the King of England would consent if the latter showed himself desirous of it. Instructions for the Nuncio how to negotiate with the Emperor. There will be many difficulties with respect to England, Bourbon, &c. The Emperor must send a trusty person to the Pope. The Nuncio is to give the Pope full information of English occurrences. Hungarian news. Rome, 4 Oct. 1524.
4 Oct.
Calig. B. VI. 395. B. M. St. P. IV. 159.
707. ARTICLES between WOLSEY and ANGUS.
1. The Earl, by the advice of his brother Sir George Douglas, promises to do all he can to support the young king of Scots in his authority; 2, and to withstand Albany if he should return to Scotland before James is of full age. 3. He shall persistently oppose any act of Parliament or Council in diminution of the young King's authority. 4. He shall do his best to prevent the King inclining to France, and to promote cordiality with England; 5, and justice upon the Borders. 6. He shall endeavor to recover the Queen's favor, and forbear to visit the Court till he has done so. 7. To be friends with Arran so long as he supports the King; the King of England undertaking to support Angus if the Queen and Arran incline the contrary way. 8. He shall always be ready to serve Henry against any other prince but his own sovereign. 9. He shall follow Henry's advice, as given by Wolsey, Norfolk, Dacre or other, about the arrangement of his own differences both with the Queen and Arran. To the above articles he binds himself by oath. 4 Oct. 1524, 16 Hen. VIII. Signed by Angus and Sir George Douglas.
5 Oct.
Vat. Trans. XXXVII. 124. B. M. St. P. IV. 166.
The Pope is no doubt aware of James's assumption of the regal authority, and of the support therein given him by the king of England. Requests his Holiness not to confer any more bishoprics or promotions at the instance of the Duke of Albany, but to wait for eight months the King's letters of nomination. Edinburgh, 5 Oct. 1524. Signed.
Lat. Add.
R. MS.
13 B. II. f. 135. B. M.
709. JAMES V to the POPE.
"Beatissime pater, &c. Arbitramur Sanctitatem jampridem intellexisse regni nostri quemadmodum in gubernium atque administrationem erecti sumus." [The rest of the page is blank.]
On the preceding page are these words: "The tenor of yis lettre follow - and for mair secrete lyis kept in the coffer."
5 Oct.
R. O.
The King their master is in good health, and "growis ane fair prince." Trust he will nourish peace and justice. They attend continually upon him, and are ready to obey the Queen in anything. Feel much indebted to Norfolk for his good counsel to their sovereign. Edinburgh, 5 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord duke of Northfolk, greit admirall and the saurare of Ingland, and lieutenant of the North partes of the samyn.
5 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 205. B. M.
There is no news in his letters of the 11th ult. from Rome, except the departure of the archbishop of Capua.
The Emperor, however, has heard that the Turks have purchased 30 foists and "decem ..." gallies to cross the Adri[atic], and attack some harbor in Sclav[onia], Catilia or Naples. Certain Christians were taken by the Venetians, who were going to show the ease with which Brundusium could be captured; which would be the ruin of Wolsey, for it is capable of holding any fleet. The Pope, therefore, does not doubt that, to avoid these dangers, the King and Wolsey will agree to a truce. Will say nothing about Bourbon's army, as Wolsey will have heard from the ambassador of Milan. London, 5 Oct. 1524.
Hol., Lat., pp.2, mutilated. Add.
6 Oct.
R. O.
According to his orders, send an account of the money received by Mrs. Jane Midilton, from the lordships of Bethum, Arneshede, Whassid, Burton and Hencaster, from Pentecost 15 Hen. VIII. to Pentecost 16 Hen. VIII., amounting to 35l. 16s. 6½d. Send also a copy of the list of damages done by her to John Ravenscroft, forester of Arneshede, amounting to 37l. 4s. 8d., which was found a true bill by the court held at Bethum, 20 Sept. Appointed the 5 Oct. for her to answer it at Preston, but she did not appear. If she had appeared, would have induced him to take 20l. Asks him to make a final end between them. Wm. Tomson, of Herneshide, complains that she has kept from him a horse worth 13s. 4d., and Jas. Bankes, of Whasset, that she keeps a cow of his worth 11s. 1d., and has only allowed him his rent, 6s. 6d. Preston, 20 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To Mr. Magnus, surveyor and general receiver of the King's wards' lands.
2. The above-mentioned list of rents. Signed by Tunstall and Tyldisley.
Pp. 10.
3. Damages done to John Ravenscrofte by Jane Midilton and Sir Walter Stryklande. They have taken from him horses, swine, "salmons and solence," deprived him of the rents of Arneshed meadow, Baterhouse, the fermhold of Arneshed, &c., destroyed his corn, prevented him from tilling his land, and wrongfully indicted him and his son for forcible entry into Arneschede Tower.
Attested by inquest, 20 Sept. 16 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 3.
6 Oct.
Calig. B III. f. 124. B. M.
Has received his letter, with a writing and articles from the Cardinal, to whom she has sent an answer. Is glad to have done Henry a pleasure. Begs he will not again put the King her son in such danger as he was in lately. If Angus come, it will trouble the whole realm, creating a breach with Arran, who has done such good service to herself and her son. Matters now at a good point will go back, and the ambassadors be stopped. It is not in the power of any in Scotland to do Henry such service as she can do. Edinburgh, 6 Oct.
Pp. 2. Headed: "The copy of the queen of Scots' letter to the King's grace."
Calig. B. VII. 69.
B. M.
2. Another copy.
6 Oct.
Calig. B. I. 89. B. M.
Has received his letter with the articles subscribed by him, and made answer in detail. Begs him not to regard so much the lord of Angus, otherwise it will create great trouble, and put her son in the hands of his enemies after being rescued. Angus should not be sent to Scotland, especially by the King her brother. It would make Arran forsake the good part he has pursued, and take heed to himself. Angus never did or will render such services as he to the King her son. Desires to be promptly informed of Henry's pleasure. Trusts the ambassadors will not be sped till she is in surety of these matters. If her adherents act on Henry's behalf, he should show them kindness above all Scotchmen. Edinburgh, 6 Oct.
Pp. 2. Headed: "The copy of the queen of Scots' letter to my lord Cardinal."
Calig. B. III. 112.
B. M.
2. Another copy.
6 Oct.
Calig. B. VI. 404. B. M. St. P. IV. 167.
Has received his writing, with other writings from the King and Wolsey, which she has answered in every point. The King will find her ready to do anything that she may do for his pleasure, and she trusts he will do nothing that may be to her hurt, which would be neither honorable nor profitable to him. Asks credence for Carlisle herald, for he understands the manner of all things as they are now, and desires Norfolk to inform the King and Wolsey of everything, and obtain for her a speedy answer; "for vhol than (until then) I trast the imbasytors vol not entar vyth in Ingland, nor ne thyng be throv endyd;" and so all is in her brother's hand. Henry should not be influenced by any pleasure or profit Angus can do him. If his desires are more regarded than hers, will labor no more for her brother's pleasure, but take the best way she can for herself. If he sends the Earl into Scotland, he cannot make her favor him, nor allow him to be in her company, and his doing so would be greatly to her dishonor and displeasure, which she has not deserved. Trusts his Grace will consider her, and act for the weal of her son; in which behalf she wishes to know what she shall trust to, "and not dayly to make mynttyz of hyz comyng here; for I aswr yow, my lord, and any other in the varld do me that displesur, they sal vant my hart." Is greatly beholden to Norfolk, as he will see, if she ever can requite it. Asks him to labor for her in this matter, and to assure her of what she has written. As to the safe-conduct for which the King has written, "it sal be gatyn in contynent, bot I have haldyn the sam berar vhol the byschope of Dwnkel cam for to bryng answar agayn fro the said byschope of all thyng at length vyl be vyl be (sic) here incontynent, and I have delyvar thys berar, that I may have hasty answar of my sayd vrytyngs fro the Kyngs grace," for her part-takers will not suffer the ambassadors to be sent till an answer come from the King to what Arran has written to him and to Norfolk. Sends him a hawk, and Arran sends another, and she will send him a third in a short time. Wolsey says in his letter that Magnus and the other gentleman shall not enter Scotland till the Scotch ambassadors enter England; so the safe-conduct need not be hasted till she has obtained one for her ambassadors. 6 Oct.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.
Between the tow leaves of this letter is a paper as follows:—
"In my lorde Chauncellor's hand; therldome of Fith.
In therle of Huntles hand; the lordship of Brychen and Stradye.
In therle of Murrays hand; the duche of Rosse and Armanagh.
In therle of Arguylis hand; the lordship of Iles, Suthkyntyre and Northkyntire, Knapdene, Koell, Androwe Smyth.
In therle of Lennox hand; the lordship of Bute.
In therle of Cassels hand; the lordship of Galawaye, and therldome of Wynchdome; and he to aunswer to the Harbarties for thies fermes at the Duke's commaundement."
Calig. B. III.
54. B. M.
2. Copy of the above letter.
Pp. 3. Headed by Tuke: Copie of the quene of Scotts lettre to my lord of Norfolke.
Ibid. f. 187.
B. M.
3. Another copy, by Wolsey's clerks.
Pp. 3. Headed by Tuke as above. Endd.: The copy of my lord's lettre to the duke of Northfolke.
6 Oct.
R. O.
The retinue of Sir Wm. Percy, mustered 6 Oct. Holderness, 70 men; Kyrkbyshire, 31; Poklyngton, 13; Lekenfelde, 4; Semer, 8; Nafferton, 7; Honanboro, 8; Catton, 9; Tadcaster, 8; Toplesse, 8; Wrissell, 5; Spofforth, 12; and 53 others, all named. Total, as summed up at the end: 2 captains, 2 petty captains, and 133 soldiers. Signed by Sir Wm. Percy and by Wm. Hals.
Pp. 4.
7 Oct.
Add. MS. 15,387, f. 128. B. M. Theiner, p. 543.
In favor of John Cavalcanti of Florence, who has business at Rome. Dunstable, (fn. 4) 7 Oct. 1524.
Lat., pp. 3, copy.
8 Oct.
R. O.
Has retreated from Provence, for the reasons which he will hear from his ambassador and the chevalier Gregoire, to whom Bourbon has told all his intentions both for peace and war. Asks what Henry wishes to be done. Will accomplish all he has promised. Hopes the King and the Emperor will make such deliberation as will be to the honor of both of them. In the camp near Nice, 8 Oct. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Endd.
8 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 204*. B. M.
To the same effect. From the camp at Nice, 8 Oct. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. Endd.
8 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 206. B. M.
Received on the 6th her letter of the 21st September, with a copy of one from De Praet to the late De la Roche. The army retreated from Marseilles on the 27th September, as she will see from the copy of Pescara's letter. Has sent 1,000 foot to Genoa, and 2,000 on the road to Nice. Sends copies of the Emperor's letters to himself and De la Roche. It is difficult to get money, but he does all he can, and has written to the council of Naples to use the utmost diligence.
Has sent 14,000 ducats to Genoa for the army; has taken 6,000 there on his own obligation, and authorised Lopez de Soria, the Emperor's ambassador there, to bind himself, in Lanoy's name, for what he can get. On the 30th received letters from the archbishop of Capua, dated Avignon, the 27th, stating that he had seen Francis, and proposed to him,—first, a meeting of great personages to consult about peace, to which the King seemed inclined; secondly, a meeting of delegates to discuss a suspension of war, and the time and place of the above meeting; thirdly, a truce, to which Francis was not disposed, saying he had a good army; but finally he agreed to refer it to the Pope if Bourbon left Provence. It was settled that the Archbishop should go to Bourbon and Pescara. The duke of Cessa is not yet at Rome, being detained by his wife's death. Has written to him to follow the instructions sent to De la Roche, if the Pope proposes a truce, and to conclude it, if the English ambassador consents.
Four days ago a letter, dated the 29th, Avignon, came from the Archbishop, saying that now the army had retreated from Marseilles he would not visit the camp. This morning a courier has come from him on his way to Rome, with a letter for Bernardin de la Barba, who is here on the part of the Pope, saying that the King will nowise consent to a truce now the enemy has retreated. Has written to the Pope, and encloses a copy. Has sent for 1,000 Almains. Has written to the Imperial ambassador at Venice to urge the Milanese ambassador that they must do their duty if the French enter Italy. If the Pope does as Lanoy has asked him, hopes to be able to do his duty. Does not know what the king of England will do. The season is far advanced, and the conditions he asked different to his wish. If he had descended in time things would have been different, or at least if he had allowed his ambassador to agree to the truce. Things are not as she would wish, and all for want of money.
Has had no news from the army in France since the 1st instant, when Don Hughes wrote that it was at Monigue, with the heavy artillery, retreating. Last night a man came who left Nice on Monday. He said the army was at St. Laur[ens], two leagues from Nice, at Villenove, one league from St. Laurens, and at Grasse, four leagues from Villenove; at which places they had stopped to victual, and had found plenty.
Feels sure the French king does not wish to fight.
He did not wish to allow the Archbishop to go on to Spain, nor to give him a despatch, but he has gone to Avignon to the King's mother, to wait the Pope's answer. The personages the Pope wished to meet about peace are the lady Margaret, the lady Regent, Wolsey, and a cardinal from himself. Ast, 8 Oct.' 24.
Fr., pp. 3, copy, mutilated.
10 Oct.
R. O.
Reminds him of his necessities, as he hears that the bishop of Salisbury is dead. Encloses a letter to the King, to be delivered if Wolsey think fit. Vienna, 10 Oct. 1524. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
10 Oct.
Vat. Trans. Add. MS. 15,387, f. 123. B. M. St. P. VI. 353.
Thanks for the plenary indulgence granted to himself and the Queen; also for the extension of Wolsey's legatine authority, and the faculties granted him for suppressing certain monasteries, to be added to the college he is now building at Oxford. Anteyll, 10 Oct. 1524.
10 Oct.
Add. MS. 15,387, f. 130. B. M. Theiner, p. 547.
Thanks him for the gift of a consecrated rose received from Hanibal. "Dnteijl" (Ampthill), 10 Oct. 1524.
Lat., pp. 6, copy.
10 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 208. B. M. St. P. VI. 354.
The Pope has had information of the breaking up of the siege of Marseilles. Gives a brief account of the siege of the 24th, and the departure of the army on the 27th, never resting till they came to Nice. "If they had made as good speed outwards as they have made homewards, they might have been at Calais long afore this time." The Duke was opposed in his wishes by the captains and soldiers, who were mutinous for want of pay. Russell arrived on the 8th with the money sent by the Turcopolier, who is at Viterbo, "where lieth the Great Master of the Rhodes, and the heads of that religion." Has advised Russell not to take the money into the camp. Thinks it is no reason that the King should pay ready money in hand, and the Emperor only in promises.
The Pope has received letters from the Archbishop [of Capua] of the 28th ult., of the French king's proud words to be avenged of his enemies. Notwithstanding he was contented that the Archbishop should offer conditions to the army for evacuating Provence. Had Clerk received information from the army, the treaty of truce might have gone forward; yet he could have concluded nothing in it, "for your Grace knoweth well enough that mine instructions by your Grace's last letters doth require, amongst other, two things principally, before I can consent to any manner of truce;—the one is, the total ruin of the Duke of Bourbon's enterprise, whereof we have too much certainty; the other is the knowledge of successes of such practices as be between your Grace and the French king for the King's highness's particular matters, wherein I do look daily to know your Grace's pleasure." The Pope always distrusted the enterprise, and said for this reason that he had communicated with the French king for a truce. Thinks he has made preparations to enter Italy, but perhaps not before the winter. He is not likely to dissolve his army. Gives his opinions about the probability of truce.
Showed the Pope of the arrival of the King's money at Viterbo. "And his Holiness answered me merrily, with great laughter, that he would arrest it, and take it for his own needs, because it was within his territory. I answered his Holiness merrily and in spirit again, that his Holiness might use the King's goods as his own." The Pope does not advise that the money should be sent to the camp. He wished Clerk to report, as he had done, that it amounted to 100,000 ducats. Does not think this advice good, or that the French king should lose all hope of recovering Milan, but spend and waste money, rather than lie at home and save. Rome, 10 Oct.
10 Oct.
Vit. B. VI. 211. B. M.
After writing from Milan, went to Mantua to meet Mr. Weston. Found a letter from him that he had left eight days before, having waited eight days for Russell, and had gone to Viterbo, 230 miles off, whither Russell followed him. He would have delivered the charge he had, but Russell preferred to go to Rome to ask Clerk's advice. When there, news came that the army in Provence was dissolved; which he could not believe till the Pope showed him.
The day before Russell left, they concluded in council to do their best to take Marseilles, and, if they could not shortly, to march against the French army.
Was told at several places on the way that Weston had 100,000 cr. with him. By Clerk's advice, leaves it with him till he knows Wolsey's pleasure.
The Emperor's month is passed, and, Russell thinks, twelve days of another month. Many means will be made to have this money, but he will deliver none till he hears from Wolsey. The Pope knew of it. After leaving the camp, took ship from Toulon to Genoa, and has been obliged to ride the remainder on post horses, which was very expensive. Could not bring his own by sea, and could not have escaped by land. Asks where he can levy the money he has laid out, so that he may pay what he borrowed at Milan and of Weston. Between Mantua and Rome, heard that a French post had passed with news of the dissolution of the army, which Russell thought impossible, and he therefore hastened on, that neither the Pope nor Clerk might believe it. Rome, 10 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
[10 Oct.]
R. O.
Received on the 6th inst. his letter dated the More, the 3rd, with a letter to the Queen, a copy of the articles between Wolsey and Angus, and a list of those who Angus thinks will side with the King against Albany or remain neutral. Has detained the Queen's letter, as he hourly expects an answer by Carlisle herald to Wolsey's last letter, with the answer of her articles.
The matter between Dacre and the gentlemen complainants should be examined before Wolsey and the Council. Found the same fault at first reading the complaint, that was noticed by the King and Wolsey, and laid it right sharply to their charges, commanding them on their allegiance to obey Dacre as the King's warden. This they promised to do, "laying the fault in the writer and their own folly, that they had no better looked upon the same; and saying that though they were not the most wisest subjects that his Grace hath," none should be found more obedient. They have again made like answer since the receipt of Wolsey's letter. It will be inconvenient to send Dacre up to London, as Wolsey wishes, because, in the unsettled state of the matter between the Queen and Angus, Dacre's advice is very useful to him. The days of "trewe" are also appointed for this week, and Dacre must be there. It would be better for the writer, Sir Wm. Bulmer, and Sir Wm. Evers to be present when the complaints are heard; and both he and Dacre should be present when the ambassadors come to the King. The country may be kept in good order if Wolsey will write to Dacre to leave Sir Christopher at Hexham till his return, to keep good order in Tyndale, Gildisland and Bewcastell Dale. If Wolsey approves of this, he should write to Dacre to come up when the writer bids him, and leave Sir Christopher; and when the King and Wolsey please, will come with him and two or three of the complainants.
Pp. 2. Imperfect. Add.: To my lord Legate's grace.
10 Oct.
Calig. B. I. 113. B. M. St. P. IV. 169.
727. NORFOLK to [WOLSEY]. (fn. 5)
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Magnus and Radcliff came to Newcastle on Saturday. Has discussed with them what they are to do in Scotland, expecting hourly the return of herald with Carlisle their safe-conduct, for which he sent to the Queen on the 2nd.
P.S.—Last night, Carlisle arrived with the enclosed letters. As the Queen and Arran declare that if Angus come to Scotland they will hinder the coming of the ambassadors, and the safe-conduct for Magnus and Radcliffe is deferred, has detained Wolsey's letter to the Queen, with the articles. As she seems to have some confidence in Norfolk, has determined to send Hals to her tomorrow, with a letter to her, and one to Arran. (Copies enclosed.) If no good effect come of this, despairs of any other mode of reconciling her and Angus. If Hals find they are both determined to hinder the coming of the ambassadors, he will practice with Cassillis, the bishop of Dunkeld, and the abbots of Paisley and Holyrood House, to promote it. If there were any good number of lords at Edinburgh, doubts not the ambassadors would come, in spite of the Queen and Earl; for Cassillis, Sir William Scot and Adam Ottirburn, authorized by the king of Scots' commission, and by consent of Parliament, have bound them by their hands and seals to send ambassadors before the 28th November. Magnus and Radeliff approve of the detaining Wolsey's letter and articles, fearing that if the Queen and Earl had received them they would have taken the bishop of St. Andrews out of prison, which Arran would have liked to do long ago.
Hardly knows what opinion to give as to the policy of Angus's return. If he returns, they will certainly combine with the Chancellor against him, though he believes they will not prevail. It is suspicious that Angus has acknowledged, which he would not do at first, that he came out of France with the French king's consent, yet it would be dishonorable to detain him without sufficient grounds. Thinks the authority of the Queen and Arran will not long continue, the whole realm is so discontent. If the Queen and Arran will not agree with Angus, and yet the King thinks he should be allowed to depart, the sooner he goes the better, lest in the meantime they make new bands with the French party. If he is to be detained, desires that he be committed to Dacre's custody, who has his own castle at Morpeth and other sure houses to keep him in. If he is to be allowed to leave, thinks his brother George should remain in England one month, his brother William the next, and his uncle Archibald a third month,—the best hostages he can lay, except the master of Kilmawrus, if he can be had. In case Norfolk's last message fail to bring about the agreement, Wolsey should devise two ways for the Duke to follow; the one in case she consents, and the other if she refuses. Sends Carlisle herald to Wolsey by post. Advises him to put him upon oath to show the truth of what Wolsey asks him; otherwise, being an officer-at-arms, he will be loth to say anything to the reproach of any noble man or woman. Requests instruction for Magnus and Radcliff, whether they shall go to Scotland before the ambassadors come, and what money they shall give to the King and Queen there. Newcastle, 10 Oct. Signed.
10 Oct.
Cal. B. III. 117. B. M.
Received her letter to the King, by Carlisle herald, on Sunday night, one to the Cardinal with her answer to the articles, and another to himself; also one from the King her son to Henry for a safe-conduct for the ambassadors, another for a safe-conduct for merchants, and one to the Pope with a copy; also one from Arran to the King; all which he has forwarded. Perceives by the herald's report that she has confidence in him. Will give her his best advice, as she desires. Refers her to Hals for credence. Desires her to consider how Henry can with honor detain Angus, who has come to England upon trust, and desires a reconciliation with her and Arran. Wolsey has given her the best advice, and such as he could not have written without the King's express command. If she do not relent towards Angus, fears the King will take it ill. Begs her to consider the consequences pointed out by Wolsey, of her insisting on her high demands. Angus was not sent by Henry into Scotland, nor would the King permit him to go without security that he would not meddle with her conjunct feoffment, nor force himself on her company. Let Arran and her Grace devise what securities they think proper, and if he come to Scotland without performing them Norfolk will bear the blame. Regrets that Margaret has threatened not to send the ambassadors if Angus enter Scotland. Their mission would be more profitable for Scotland than for England. Urges her to send them without waiting answers to her letters to the King and Cardinal, who are at present 40 miles apart. Newcastle, 10 Oct.
Copy, pp. 5. Headed by Norfolk: "Copy of my letter sent by my servant Hals to the Queen of Scots."
10 Oct.
Cal. B. VI. 344. B. M. St. P. IV. 172.
Arrived at Newcastle on Saturday the 9th. Made the journey in nine days, without tarrying by the way. The King's horses had not yet arrived nor any answer for their safe conduct till two days after, (fn. 6) when Norfolk received letters from the queen of Scots, Arran and others. Think Arran's letter written in "hawte and high manner." Norfolk sends it up by Carlisle, by whose report Wolsey will learn "many things contrarious against the coming into Scotland of the earl of Angwisshe," proceeding only, as they think, of the Queen's mind and Arran's. Are sorry for the Queen's displeasure, and that she is not supported by good counsel. She has only Arran, Maxwell and two or three young men of Arran's kin, so that no justice or good order is to be had. Many men in Scotland would have these things reformed; but what will come of it is doubtful, as another Parliament is proposed. Wish instructions what they are to do if they go to Scotland, as they have not yet got the safe-conduct, and do not expect it for some time,—also what money shall be given to the King and Queen, and others. The Queen is in want of money more than anything. Newcastle, 10 Oct. Signed.


  • 1. Substituted for Amadas.
  • 2. Substituted for Sir Henry [Wiat].
  • 3. The bull is quoted in extenso. It is greatly different from that printed by Rymer under the same date.
  • 4. "6" in Theiner.
  • 5. Probably the latter part of the preceding letter.
  • 6. So in MS.