Henry VIII: November 1525, 2-15

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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November 1525

2 Nov.
Galba, B. VIII. 213. B. M.
Wrote last on the 27th ult. from Antwerp. Came next day to Malines, where my Lady arrived the same night from Howstrate. There are now with her Ravenstein, Bevers, Berghes and other lords of Brabant, Flanders, and Hainault. Twelve of the best of Ghent have complained of Pottylberg, receiver of Flanders, a man of such authority that he has been called lord of the county, though now he has been obliged to leave his house at Ghent, and dwell at Termont. They accuse him of a breach of the privileges of Ghent. Hitherto it has not been lawful for the towns of Flanders to grant any aid of money to their prince without leave of Ghent, whose consent or refusal binds all the towns of Flanders. They complain that he has practised with the other towns apart, and wonder what has become of all the money raised in the county since the Emperor's coming out of Spain. Thinks their complaint will not be answered till my Lady arrive at Brussels on Saturday or Monday next, when the cardinal of Liège and all the Council will be there.
Hears my Lady has received letters of the 11th ult. from Spain, stating that the French king had been dangerously ill, and had been visited by the Emperor. All here hope for peace; and, in addition to the privileges granted by the truce to fishermen, merchants are now allowed to have safe-conducts to trade with France, on paying merely for the seal and writing. These, however, will be of little use unless the French grant similar ones; and are not greatly sought for. So if English merchants will bestir themselves, they may make large profits.
Mentioned how far Lelegrave was forward with the King's artillery; if the holidays had not come so thick, it would have been all shipped by this time. Expects Lelegrave here tomorrow or next day, to arrange with Hans Poperutter, to try the artillery made by the latter for the King. An assembly of peasants in Almain has been pacified, and they have agreed to pay their lords 6 florins=20s. sterling for every fire, the one half in hand, the other at a day appointed; but as the princes doubt whether this agreement will be kept, a diet is to be held at Augsburg on St. Martin's day to take measures to repress violence.
Zurich and some of the other Swiss cantons have openly adopted the opinions of Luther; and the rest, though they do not altogether agree with the others, have protested that the Pope shall no longer dispose of benefices, or have any spiritual jurisdiction except in cases of matrimony. For other cases they say the temporal law is sufficient, and care little for spiritual curses or pardons, "which may be procured for money, and rubbed off with a like salve; wherefore, though the child is now rocked asleep, it is like enough that he will make more noise when he doth awake." Malines, 2 Nov. 1525.
Hol., mutilated, pp. 4. Add.
Cal. D. IX. 79.
B. M.
Although he will doubtless hear from France of the new alliance between France and England, writes to inform him that on the 30 Aug., after frequent conferences with the cardinal of York, the archbishop of Canterbury, the bishop of Hail (Ely ?), the duke of Norfolk, marquis of Exeter, earl of Worcester, and others, this peace, so much desired for both kingdoms and for Christendom, was signed and published through the kingdom. The Scots have not been forgotten in it. Has no doubt it will give them satisfaction. London, ... Signature burned off.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: "A Mons. Mons. de Saignes, conseiller du Roy trèschretien en sa court de parlement de Thoulouse, et son ambassadeur en Escosse." Endd.: From Mons. de Brinon.
3 Nov.
Cal. D. IX. 86. B. M.
Notifying to them that they have concluded a treaty of peace with the English ambassadors, which the Regent of France has confirmed and published throughout the kingdom. The king of England did the same on the 9th Sept. Have named the king of Scots first among their confederates. Trust it will meet their approbation, in which case they are to signify their consent to Henry VIII. and the Regent of France within four months. London, 3 Nov. Signed.
Lat., mutilated, pp. 2.
3 Nov.
R. O. Rym. XIV. 99.
1740. TREATY of the MORE.
Obligation of the city of Amiens to observe the same treaty. Amiens, 3 Nov. 1525. Sealed.
Lat., vellum.
4 Nov.
R. O.
1741. BAPTISTA DE TAXIS, Master of the Posts, to WOLSEY.
Has frequently solicited payment of the posts between Malines and Calais, both by letter and by the ambassadors here. Hoped that Wolsey's order to the treasurer of Calais would have been sufficient; but the Treasurer, after detaining his servant eight or ten weeks, sent him back with payment for only two months, and a message not to come again. The posts cannot continue if not paid their arrears of eighteen months. Malines, 4 Nov. 1525. Signed.
Fr., pp. 2. Add.
5 Nov.
R. O.
A complimentary letter on the return of the bishop of Bath to England, in whose place have arrived the bishop of Worcester and Gregory Casale. Rome, 5 Nov. 1525. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
6 Nov.
Harl. MS. 442. f. 59. B. M.
Proclamation to be made by the mayor and sheriffs of Coventry, ordering the citizens to desist from their riotous combinations, and the circulation of seditious bills and writings. More, 6 Nov. 17 Hen. VIII.
Modern copy, pp. 2.
5 Nov.
R. O.
My diets from 1 June 1524 to 5 Nov. 1525, at 20s. a day, 522l. Received at my departure from Mr. Wiett, 200l.
Received of Mr. Turcoplier, 46,145cr. 3s. 8d. Returned by exchange, 44,000cr. Residue in my hands, 2,145cr. 3s. 8d.=464l. 18s. 8d.
Cost of riding in post from Marseilles to Rome, and thence to Milan, 460cr.=99l. 13s. 4d.
Owes therefore to the King 43l. 5s.
6 Nov.
R. O.
Those who would have estranged Wolsey from him have only caused the Cardinal to show him the greater kindness. What could have been more agreeable than his letters which he received by the bishop of Worcester and Casale, acknowledging his devotion to the good of Christendom ? Cannot sufficiently thank him for the confidence shown in sending him a cipher (occultas notas) by which to communicate with the Pope, seeing that the ambassadors above named can do that so well. Had already spoken in their commendation to the Pope, and thus tempered his regret at the departure of the bishop of Bath. Rome, 6 Nov. 1525. Signed.
Lat., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
6 Nov.
Vesp. F. III. 103 b. B. M.
Desires credence for Dr. Augustinus Aggeus, whom he sends to England. Arnhem, 6 Nov. 1525. Signed.
Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
7 Nov.
Vit. B. VII. 205.* B. M.
Wrote often from Lyons about the terms which the Regent said she intended to send to Italy, and what had been done according to Wolsey's orders. Then went to Rome, and was kindly heard by the Pope, as Wolsey will see by the enclosed letters. Clerk left Rome today for England. He will be much missed by the Pope and every one. Rome, 7 Nov. 1525. Signed.
Lat., p. 1, mutilated. Add. Endd.
7 Nov.
Vit. B. VII. 206. B. M.
* * * "vij. die Novembris Romæ datis."
Escaped the dangers of the road from Lyons more by a miracle than by any other means. After meeting the bp. of Worcester at Rome, showed the Pope what had been done in France with the lady Regent by the King's order; of which he thoroughly approved. The French would send commissions and instructions soon after Casale's departure from Lyons, but the Pope and the V[enetian] ambassador were displeased at the delay, which "Dominus [Data]rius" thus explains. A[lbert] de Carpi, the French agent at Rome, wrote to the lady Regent before Sir Gregory left France, to send him a commission, and the power given to her by the French king, requesting her to mention therein the affairs of Milan, and to promise that the French would assent to the settlement of the kingdom of Naples according to the Pope's wish. There would necessarily be some delay in considering these matters, especially since the captivity of Morone has thrown matters into confusion. The Pope was proposing to the marquis of Pescara, through Morone, to make him king of Naples, which he seemed to take up most eagerly, and, two days before the capture of Morone, wrote him long letters complaining of the Emperor. Now he has discovered the whole affair to the Emperor, the Pope does not know what to do about Naples. Carpie suggests dividing it between the Venetians, the Pope, and the king of England, "vel...filio;" to which Casali has yet made no answer, but thinks that, if such a division was made, the King might resign his right for a sum of money. The Pope would, probably, refuse the kingdom for himself or his relations.
Ambrosius, the French agent at Venice, writes that the Venetians complain "de G[allorum] lentitudine," and say that they are hard pressed, for the [Imperialists] have crossed the Adda, and entered Ghierada[da]. The Pope also is acting coldly with the duke of Milan, and the Venetians were therefore obliged to choose three persons to treat of...with Caracciolo. Meanwhile letters written by Casale at Brixia arrived at Venice, saying that the lady Regent would observe all that had been treated with the king of England; and Ambrosius exhibited letters of credence for Casale from the lady Regent to the bp. of Bayeux. The Venetians were thereby much quieted. The former slowness of the French causes fear that they will not send what they promised. The Venetians promise to conclude nothing with Caracciolo, but to delay him with unimportant negotiations. Casale, by the request of the French, has desired the Pope to encourage the Venetian ambassadors, which he has done.
Casale hears from a relative of his, who is intimate with Lautrec, that since the peace between England and France the Emperor has become more bold in his demands, and wishes proclamation to be made throughout France that all that Bourbon does is done justly; and that the duchess of Alençon will return without any conclusion. Two couriers from Spain to the Pope have been intercepted at Lyons. This was probably done in consequence of bad news from Spain, and from fear of the practices of the papal Legate.
The Pope much wishes to enter a defensive league, and for the king [of England] to do the same. Casale showed him reasons against the King's doing so, and the method proposed by Wolsey. The Pope and the Venetians say that a commission should be sent by the King to enter the league in case the Emperor attempts to enforce his unjust demands by arms, which he has ready in Italy to prevent the delay of sending and answering.
The Italians think more of the King and his moderate contribution than of ten other potentates, if their contribution were tenfold, for there is always a suspicion, as now, "quod pontifex et Vene[ti]...cum Gallis ut secura sit et duratura solutio...ginta millium scutorum, ne inchoato bello Galli sol...remitterent." For these reasons the Pope earnestly desires the King to send a commission "de accipienda p[rotec]tione," on conditions approved of by the Legate, and to be used according to instructions sent therewith.
Casale has advised the ambassadors of the duke of Milan to occupy as much time as possible in the payment of the 50,000 ducats, which they cannot refuse, lest any further payment should be necessary. The Spaniards have occupied Reggio, and thus hold the whole of the Adda. The duke of Milan has appointed 12 men to administer the affairs of the duchy. The marquis of Pescara seems to approve of it. He is in the suburbs of Milan with 3,000 foot, and demands the payment of the 50,000 cr. due to the Emperor.
Lat., pp. 6; in Vannes' hand; mutilated.
7 Nov.
R. O.
"Ill. et R. in Christo, &c. Postquam ad Urbem veni, fui, unacum Reverendo D. Bathoniensi et Magnifico D. Gregorio Casalio, apud S. D. N., et simul omnes instructionem regiam per D. v. R. nobis datam de verbo ad verbum legimus; quæ, non minus ob prudentiam et sapientiam quæ ex ea colligebatur, quam ob sui tenorem, Sanctitati suæ mirum in modum placuit, jussitque Sanctitas sua ut Serenissimæ Regiæ Majestati et D. v. R. suo nomine gratias ageremus ob bonum consilium Sanctitati suæ datum, filialemque amorem erga eam ostensum, eidemque Regiæ Majestati et D. v. R. singnificaremus Stem suam jamdudum ad requisitionem præfati D. Bathoniensis agentibus suis apud Cæsaream majestatem id commisisse, quod per præfatam instructionem a Ste sua fieri instabatur, prout latius D. v. R. intelliget a præfato D. Bathoniensi, qui hoc mane hinc discessit ut istuc se conferret.
"Novi quod ad mei notitiam devenerit hic nihil est, nisi quod S. D. N. ex Gallia et nonnullis aliis locis, non tamen ex Hispania, significatum est, quod inferius sequitur, viz.:
"Cœsarem declarasse Gallorum regem velle omnino sibi restitui Burgundiam et D.'Burbonensem restitui nedum ad statum sed etiam ad honorem et famam; ita ut quod contra cum factum est tanquam male factum revocaretur, ex quo tractatus concordiæ inter Cœsarem et regem Galliœ interruptus videbatur et in Franciam revertebatur. Quia tamen Stas sua non est certa an hæc sint vera, et quicquid sit, ego non vereor tam ab oratoribus regiis ex Hispania quam a Gallis D. v. R. id esse significatum, non curo esse ei molestus prolixius scribendo.
"De unione principum Italiœ cum Gallis nihil adhuc factum est, et per ea quæ apparent stat per Gallos qui rem in longum protrahunt, forte dubitantes, ut ex aliquibus conjecturis colligitur, Cœsarem ex hoc irritatum difficilius regem Gallorum liberaturum. S. D. N. per ea quæ dicit nil aliud expectat quam resolutionem Francorum, quam licet D. Gregorius per multas dies Lugduni expectaverit, et postea in ejus discessu promissum sibi fuerit, ut asserit, brevi eam mittere, adhuc tamen habita non est; quo factum fuit ut ab Roma instantissime solicitati coacti fuerint tres ex primis eorum civibus ad hoc eligere. Et licet cognoscatur mentem Venetorum esse quod res etiam ulterius protrahatur, si tamen ex parte Gallorum nimis differetur, non sine causa timendum est quod Veneti, dubitantes tandem Gallos nihil cum principibus Italiœ facturos, cum Cœsare concludant. Quod si cogitandum sit de inducendo Gallos ad concludendum, non video id efficacius et certius fieri posse quam istinc; hinc enim factum est hactenus et assidue judicio meo fit quod potest circa hoc. Prætera, ut conjicere potui in Gallia, plus ibi regi Angliœ defertur quam cæteris omnibus Christianorum potentatibus. Nescio tamen si tantum poterunt Veneti cum Coelig;sare rem protrahere. Quod Vicerex nomine Cœsaris quasi dominus omnem statum Mediolani, exceptis arcibus, occupaverit, et nunc sub eo prætextu quod sexaginta milia ducatorum Cœsari debita ei non persolvantur Mediolanum tendat, in burgis Mediolani cum tribus milibus peditum et bona quantitate equitum hospitaturus, credo D. v. R. jam esse notum.
"Similiter puto D. v. R. esse notum quod Cœsar petiit a Papa absolutionem a juramento prœstito de accipiendo in uxorem filiam regis Angliœ et dispensationem de accipiendo sororem regis Portugalliœ. Et Sanctitas sua misit bullas ad Card. de Salviatis; cum hoc tamen, ut audio, quod eas non det nisi facta pace universali.
"Dictum est etiam S.D.N. Gallos retinuisse unum cursorem expeditum a R. D. cardinale de Salviatis, qui est legatus in Hispaniis, ad Stem suam; quod eadem Stas sua videtur habere pro vero; non tamen ei compertum esse videtur quo hoc tendat.
"Alia scribenda non habeo in præsentiarum. Commendo me semper humillime D. v. R., rogans eam suppliciter ut dignetur me serenissimæ Regiæ Mti commendare. Et bene valeat ac felix. Ex Urbe, die vij. Novembris, M.D.XXV.
"E. V. Ill. et R. D.
"Humill. mancipium,
"Post scriptas præsentes S. D. N. misit pro me ex causa quam D. v. R. intelliget ex cedula hic inclusa per ciferas scripta."
"Dum vellem jam literas meas claudere, Papa misit pro me voluitque ut scriberem ad D. v. R. quod expediret serenissimum nostrum Regem mictere huc unum mandatum, cujus vigore Mtas sua intraret fœdus quod Sanctitas sua cogitavit procurare inter omnes Christianos principcs, etiam incluso Cæsare; et hoc in defensionen reipublicœ Christianœ et Sedis Apostolicœ, actento periculo in quo versatur tun[c] ob dissentionem principum Christianorum, tunc etiam ob potentiam Turcarum, cujus vires indies crescunt; videreturque Papœ quo[d] inter alias conditiones hujusmodi fœderis poneretur, quod quicumque Christianus princeps, sive intrasset fœdus sive non, vellet movere bellum contra quemcumque, sine consensu majoris partis Christianorum principum, et quicumque vellet nocere alicui ex confœderatis, cœteri omnes tenerentur facere quod ille talis abstineret a molestia illius; quod si non faceret, armis ad id cogeretur. Et hoc fœdus videtur Sancti- tati suœ necesse esse ut nunc flat et non expectetur quod treuga inter Cœsarem et Gallos expiret; quia post expirationem fœderis, quando Cœsar vel alius vellet aliquem molestare, vel non posset adhiberi remedium, vel si posset fieret cum multo majori impensa et majori dilatione; unde concludit Sanctitas sua necesse esse hoc fœdus nunc concludi.
"Item cuperet, et ita Regiam Mtem et D. v. R. rogat, velint persuadere Gallis ut nolint pro liberando rege Gallorum prœcipitare res eorum, et tales conditiones Cœsari facere quod es[set ex] eis Cœsar ita magnus et potens, quod non possit ulterius adhiberi remedium, cogantque omnes Christiano[s] sub jugo Cœsareo manere.
"Item cuperet Sanctitas sua, et ita Regiam Mtem rogat, ut dignetur facere unionem et strictissimam ac optimam intelligentiam cum Sanctitate sua: id enim operaretur quod cœteri videntes Papam et Smum istum Regem ejusdem voluntatis, cogitarent non solum eis non displicere sed eis honorem tribuere et libenter procurarent habere cum eis amicitiam."
Add. and endd. by Vannes: "1525, &c., 7 Nov. datæ ac 26 redditæ." The italics in a very perplexing cipher.
7 Nov.
Vit. B. VII. 205. B. M.
Arrived at Rome on the 31 Oct. Went with Casale and Clerk to the Pope, and, after giving him the commendations of the King, Queen, Princess, and Wolsey, declared their charge; which he gladly received, as [Clerk], who left Rome today, will declare.
Clerk had already attended to the plenary indulgence "quam D.V.R. & Ill. pro capella in parrochiali illa, intra cujus limite[s]...desyderabat," so that there was no need for Ghinucci to do anything for its expedition. The Pope has also complied with his request for power to use as he pleases the brief, notwithstanding the order that it should not be used for two years. Spoke to Clerk about the friars whom Wolsey wished imprisoned for their misdeeds, for his honor, and that of the Holy See. Clerk has not been able to find them; but the Pope promise to act so that Wolsey shall know that he regards his honor. Cannot send the caps, because the pattern which Wolsey gave him is with his servants, who have not yet come to Rome.
"Misissem præterea mulam meam, etiam quod depascat potius oculos quam commoda sit, tum...tum ipsius gravitatem, verum inveni eam ægrotantem et periculose, ut idem D. Bathon...;" but he has arranged for sending shortly one that will please Wolsey, and be fast and comfortable. Rome, 7 Nov. MDX... Signed.
Lat., p. 1, mutilated.
7 Nov.
R. O.
Suit between Thos. Perpoynt, draper, and Wm. Huchecok, grocer. The defendant gave the plaintiff certain goods, pepper, ginger, &c., in payment of an obligation of 139l. 17s. 6d. fl. at the Cold Marte, 7 Nov. 1525, and now asserts they were merely pledged.
Lat., pp. 2. Endd.
8 Nov.
R. O.
On Tuesday the 7th received Wolsey's letter dated 31 Oct. Thanks Wolsey for recommending him to the high honor of lord chamberlain to the King, with the lieutenantship of Guisnes, on his giving up the treasurership of Calais. (fn. 1) Is grateful to the King for the orders to be sent by next post to Sir Will. Fitzwilliam, to deliver up the castle to him before he goes to England; but, as Fitzwilliam seems to have expected on his departure to France to enjoy the castle till April, suggests that he should be continued treasurer till that time, Mr. Weston also being continued in his room. Sends a letter on this subject to the King, the delivery of which he leaves to Wolsey's discretion. Calais, 8 Nov.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.: To my lo[rd Le]gate.
8 Nov.
R. O.
To the same effect. Calais, 8 Nov.
Hol., pp. 3. Add.
8 Nov.
R. O.
Thank him for giving them another president in the place of Dr. Hygdon, whom he has placed over his own college. Received on the viii. cal. Nov. (25 Oct.) two letters sent to the bishop of Lincoln, the one addressed to the thirteen senior fellows, the other to the vice-president and college. Can deny nothing to Wolsey, to whom, after Waynflete, they are most indebted, and who has made them famous throughout the world. But they are bound by their statutes, on a day fixed for the election, to celebrate the mysteries de Sancto Spiritu, as if to take counsel of God on the occasion, and they dare not promise before the election to favor the person recommended by Wolsey. Magdalen College, vi. id. Nov.
Lat., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: "1525. Ab universo Rmi Carlis cætu."
C. VII. 187. B. M.
Have received his letters, requesting leave to make use of their stone quarries, (which they would gladly allow, even if they were gold mines,) for his asylum of the Muses. Thank him for the happy result he has caused in quenching all the heart-burnings that formerly existed among them. By appointing a very judicious president, he has prevented the recurrence of the same.
Lat., pp. 2. Add.: "Thomæ, &c. presbyt. Cardinali, et Latere Legato, &c.
9 Nov.
R. O.
Part of the lands assigned for the payment of the garrison of Berwick are given by the King to the duke of Richmond. The Abbot is therefore to deliver to Geo. Lawson 600l. The Moore, 9 Nov. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.: George Lawson, for the retynue of Berwyk.
2. Receipt by Geo. Lawson for the above sum, from Dan Thos. Mydlambe, prior of the monastery. 22 Nov. 17 Hen. VIII. Signed.
Congé d'élire, on resignation of Ric. Kyddermyster, abbot. Hampton Court _ (blank).
Pat. 17 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 7.
P.S.b. 2. Petition for assent to their election of Ric. Anscelm as abbot. They present the elect by Tho. Ekyngton, the infirmarius, and Wm. Omersley, the precentor. Chapter-house, 9 Nov. 1525.
11 Nov.
R. O.
Had got thus far when Fitzwilliam had an attack of his old disease, the colic, from which he is now recovered. Will set forward again today. Between their last lodging and this town met Momorance coming from Lyons, who said the Emperor would not let the French king go, but got always higher in his demands. He said we should be right welcome to my Lady. Hear rumors that the town of Paris refuses to be bound, except in a generality, in the treaties with England, and that 10,000 foot are to be raised in France; for what purpose they know not. Mounte Argies, 11 Nov. Signed.
P.1. Add.
12 Nov.
Galba, B. VIII. 215. B. M.
Wrote last on the 5th, enclosing two letters from Leelgrave to Sir John Daunce and Sir William Skevington. Begs him to make his excuses to Wolsey for writing so seldom, which is only for lack of news. Nothing has come from Spain for a long time, and rumors are so varied that they are worth nothing. Thinks the old familiarity between the King and my Lady, shown in sending news by their ambassadors, is marvellously cooled. Believes the King is informed of the taking of the signor Jerome de Moron. The saying here is that, expecting the duke of Milan would not have recovered, he agreed to deliver the city of Milan to the Venetians.
As to war or peace, or whether the marriage between the Emperor and the daughter of Portugal will take effect, if two say yea, three say nay. A gentleman named Norkerme, who lately came from the Emperor (not in post, for he left two months ago), told a friend of Wingfield's that he spoke with the old lord of Montmorency in France, who told him that country was never in such perplexity, the King being prisoner, his heir so young, and no man in all the realm sufficient to take charge of affairs; and that they are so divided among themselves, and in such poverty, that it was impossible to conceive what would be the end. It was very doubtful how long the peace with England would endure, for they had promised England more than they could pay. Malines, 12 Nov. 1525.
Hol., pp. 2, mutilated.
13 Nov.
Ep. XIII. App. Eras. Ep. (ed. 1642).
Your book De Libero Arbitrio was yesterday presented to the King. (fn. 2) He read some pages of it at mass, and showed himself well pleased. He says he will read it through, and showed me the place with which he is highly satisfied, wherein you warn men about searching too narrowly into the secrets of Omnipotence. The Queen also is highly pleased, and desires her thanks, especially for the modesty with which you have handled the subject. The King has notified to Mountjoy his wish that you should write notes on the Psalms,—and his anxiety to see you; and I doubt not that upon this subject he has conversed with More, who is very popular with the King, and is much with him. Linacre's death has occasioned great grief here. The Lutheran controversy has put a stop to the production of ancient books in Germany. London, 13 Nov. 1525.
13 Nov.
R. O.
"Illustrissime ac reverendissime domine, et domine mi colendissime, humillimas commendationes. Scripsi ad D. v. R. die vij. hujus mensis per viam Flandriœ, et inter alia de fama exclusionis concordiœ tractari cœptœ inter Cœsarem et regem Gallorum, quœ postea ex Hispania verificata fuit. Tamen eisdem licteris significabatur quod denuo tractare inceperant. Scripsi etiam quod Galli retinuerant cursorem expeditum a legato ad Papam ex Hispania; postea verificatum est, quod etiam alium retinuerunt expeditum a Papa ad legatum dictum: unde Sanctitas sua aliquantulum turbata est. Ex sua tamen prudentia et suasu quamplurium oratorum, qui etiam hodie iverant ad animandam Sanctitatem suam ad defensionem, statuit propterea non irasci cum eis. Puto quod bonum esset ut monerentur quod sincerius procederent, de unionc principum Italiœ et Gallorum. Scripsi nil factum propterea quod expectabatur resolutio Gallorum; hodie autem Papa habuit nova ex Venetiis quod hujusmodi resolutio venerat, missaque fuerat Veronam, ubi erat orator Gallus, qui incontinenti Venetias venturus erat, et statim Papa certificaretur de particularitatibus hujusmodi resolutionis. Orator Gallorum qui hic est etiam habuit licteras, ut creditur, super hujusmodi resolutione, sed quia eas habuit hodie tarda hora, tempore discessus hujus cursoris adhuc non potuit diciferare. Ideo non possum aliud super hoc scribere. Cursor hic expeditur a Cœsareis cum dispensatione pro matrimonio inter Cœsarem et reginam Portugalliœ; licet enim antea S. D. N. misisset super hoc facultatem legato ibi existenti, ut per alias ad D. v. R. scripsi, noluit tamen Cæsar per legatum secum dispensari, sed inmediate a Papa.
"Scripsi etiam de occupatione status Mediolanensis a Cœsareis, qui postea arcem Cremonœ fossis circumierunt et obsederunt. Scripsi similiter quod S. D. N. cupiebat S. nostrum Regem mictere huc mandatum ad intrandum fœdus defensivum, ineundum etiam cum Cœsare, si intrare vellet. Item cupiebat [per ipsum] (fn. 3) Regem nostrum persuaderi Gallis ut non facerent eas conditiones Cœsari, quibus principes in servitutem redigerent.
"Item cupiebat Sanctitas sua fieri unionem ac strictissimam intelligentiam inter regem Angliœ et Sanctitatem suam; ad hoc ut cœteri ambobus ipsis magis deferrent et haberent respectum. Fertur regem Gallorum denuo in febrim incidisse, item Cœsareos misisse unum ad Venetos causa justificandi novitates per eos in statu Mediolanensi factas, ipsosque Venetos viriliter eis respondisse a[u]xisseque quator milium peditum vel circa. (fn. 4)
" Alia non occurrunt. Commendo me humiliter D. v. R. ei cum omni humilitate supplicando ut dignetur me commendare S. Regiæ Majestati. Ex Urbe die xiij. Novembris M.D.XXV."
Hol., cipher undeciphered. Add. Endd.
R. O. 2. Another copy, also holograph and cipher.
Add. and endd.
14 Nov.
Calig. B. VII. 59. B. M. St. P. IV. 420.
By his last of the 8 Oct. informed his Grace that his brother, on the receipt of the duke of Richmond's letters, had ridden to Berwick to be present at the communications between the King's commissioners and lord Dacre lately dead. Dacre refused to deliver the town without an order from the King. Desires an order may be sent to the present lord Dacre to deliver up Carlisle, and the bishop of Carlisle be appointed to view it. Requests the stewardship of Penryth. Skipton, 14 Nov. Signed.
Add.: "My lord Cardinal's grace."
Articles concerning the matters of Henry earl of Cumberland, sent to Sir Thos. Clifford, knt.
To remember about the stewardship of Penrith, called the Queen's Hames. To be steward and master forester of Inglewood forest, and the King's receiver general there, if Dacre has not a long grant. To be steward and bailiff of the socage adjoining Carlisle, which must be had for the pay of the soldiers, &c. The Earl did not ask the King for this, so it must be spoken of. He must not do anything till he receives from Bowland, (struck out,) of the Exchequer, Dacre's leases or patents. If Dacre has the offices by lease, he must ask that the Earl may have them by patent. He must tell the King how Dacre's leases, &c. stand, and act as he thinks best.
"Remembrances anenst my lord Cardynalles grace:"—
He must command Dacre, lord Graystock and Sir Christopher to be ready with their tenants and servants to serve the King at the command of the Earl or his deputies, and similarly to the bishop of Carlisle, the abbot of Holme, the priors of Carlisle and Wedderhale, the captains of Bewcastle and Scaleby, and to all the other inhabitants, as when Dacre was warden. To ask for a commission for the delivery for the delivery of the castle, and to view the ordnance, &c. That the guns, &c. which came to Carlisle from Newcastle when Albany laid siege to Wark may remain at Carlisle. To speak with my Lord's grace that an order may be taken with Thos. Musgrave concerning Newcastle. To know how and where the Earl shall have his fee.
Pp.2. Endd.: Articles concerning therle of Cumber.
Calig. B. VI.
427. B. M.
"Hereafter follow certain articles concerning things requisite to be had wherein I must sue unto my lord Cardinal's grace that I may have them granted me, or else I shall not be able to serve the King's highness and your Grace substantially in my office, &c."
1. That the King may assign him some convenient place in Northumberland "to lie upon" when necessary. He has no land there, except "one single town," called Camboys, of little value. 2. That he have authority to retain all the honest gentlemen of Northumberland with reasonable fees, as in times past, otherwise they will not readily serve a stranger like him. 3. That it may be determined where the money shall be had for these retainers. 4. That the lieutenants of the East and Middle Marches may be commanded to reside on their posts in Northumberland. 5. That he may have the appointment of all officers in Northumberland, including the sheriffwick, Bamburgh, Dunstanburgh, Tyndale, Redesdale, and the lieutenantship. 6. That he be not compelled "to ride to every common meeting of the Scots, but that the days of truce may be kept with the lieutenants." Otherwise, it will be very expensive and troublesome to the countrymen. 7. That punishment be rigidly enforced on all persons in Northumberland not coming to the days of "trewe" (truce) after warning, or departing without licence of the meeting. 8. Desires an amendment of the clause in the patent lately sent, giving him power to enquire of all things concerning his office of vice-wardenry, but not to determine the same. 9. Desires to know if it be the King's pleasure that he shall attempt to adjust variances in that country, or confine himself strictly to his office. If the former, then that he should have sufficient authority and an able counsellor. 10. That he may be enabled to support "a plenteous and liberal house of meat and drink; otherwise I shall not be regarded amongst them, but shall be had in opprobry and derision." He is unable to do this, having but small lands of his own, and being otherwise charged. Begs for the old fee of the wardenry, over and above his other emoluments. 11. Prays larger entertainment of the King and Wolsey. If they think Berwick a "high profite," it is not so. Has been obliged to have the full number allowed him ever since he has been there. Dares not allow one man to be absent, the town and castle are so "wake." 12. His deputy has nearly all his fee belonging to his "spere there" for the safe keeping of the town in his absence, so that he has little profit thereby.
Pp. 3.
14 Nov.
R. O.
"Illustrissime ac reverendissime domine, &c., humill. commendationes. Cum hoc mane comperiissem, cursorem per quem heri ad D. v. R. scripsi, adhuc non discessisse, fui cum S. D. N. ut intelligerem particularitates resolutionis Gallorum, et Sanctitas sua dixit mihi Gallos se resolvisse dare Italis quingentos equites et ulterius quatragenta milium scutorum pro decem milibus peditum, ita tamen quod Italia continue durante bello haberet alia viginti milia peditum et ulterius subveniret Gallis in bello quod ultra Montes facerent pro liberatione Gallorum regis. Et licet non verear S. Regem nostrum et D. v. R. de omnibus jam notitiam habuisse, visum tamen mihi fuit non ab re etiam hinc id ei significare.
"Volui intelligere a S. D. N. quomodo processisset in concessione dispensationis datæ Cæsari super matrimonio contrahendo cum sorore regis Portugalliæ et absolutionis a juramento præstito de accipiendo principissam nostram, in quo de interesse Regis nostri agitur. Sanctitas sua dixit mihi manda[sse] legato suo ut dispensationem et absolutionem hujusmodi non daret nisi consentientibus oratoribus Regis nostri. Scripsi ad D. v. R. aliquid de statu rerum Lombardiæ. Hodie autem cum venerint ad manus meas scripturæ ibi factæ inter ducem Mediolani et marchionem Piscariæ, visum est mihi non ab re earum copiam mictere ad D. v. R., quam rogo mihi parcere dignetur si ipsas scripturas lingua Italica extensas misi, nam non tantum mihi hodie temporis concessum est ut possem eas de vulgari in Latinum transferre.
"Hic per ea quœ video multum cupiunt et sperant quod rex Angliœ, actento maxime quod Cœsar discessit a matrimonio principissœ nostrœ, suscipiat provinciam prœstandi auxilium et favorem Principibus Italiœ; item quod conservet et manuteneat Gallos in ea resolutione, in qua nunc promptos se obstendunt, videlicet unionem cum principibus Italiœ ad communem conservationem, expectantque brevi, inmo brevissimo spatio, istinc super his licteris. Visum est mihi hœc D. v. R. significare.
"Alia non occurrunt. Commendo me semper D. v. Ill. et R., rogans eam humillime ut dignaretur me commendare S. nostro Regi. Et bene et feliciter valeat. Ex Urbe, die xiiij. Novembris M.D. XXV."
Hol. Cipher undeciphered. Headed: Copia. Add. Endd.
R. O. 2. Duplicate of the above, with slight verbal differences.
Hol. Add. Endd.
14 Nov.
R. O.
A letter of compliments to the King and Wolsey, thanking them for the services they have already rendered to the See Apostolic, and trusting they will not cease to defend it in these turbulent times. Rome, 14 Nov. 1525. Signed: Blosius.
P. 1, broadsheet. Add. Endd.: xxiiijo (sic) Novembris 1525.
Vit. B. VII.
210–13. B. M.
2. Duplicate of the preceding. Rome, 14 Nov. 1525.
Lat., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
14 Nov.
Lanz, I. 180.
Received his letters by Anthony de Taxis. Has informed Madame the Regent of the illness of the King (Francis). Madame d'Alençon had written to her that Francis was very well, and that she hoped some new and fair overture would be made before the Emperor proceeded to Seville. Louise seemed be in good hope, and alleged many reasons why the Emperor should desire the King's friendship, both for his coronation at Rome and for fear of the English; for she could not but think that the king of England would be displeased at the rupture of the marriage between his daughter and the Emperor. Replied, that although the Emperor intended to recover Burgundy, he would remain Francis' friend, for he would take no more than what rightfully belonged to him; and that there was no reason to suppose that the Emperor's marriage with the Portuguese princess would give rise to any misunderstanding between him and the king of England.
Madame expressed her conviction that the King her son would never consent to surrender Burgundy in the manner which the Emperor demands, but would rather die in prison. She proposed marriages between the King and the Emperor's sister Eleanor, and between her (Eleanor's) daughter and the Dauphin. The Emperor and the King could honorably transfer the right of the former to the children descending from these alliances, as the Emperor has doubtless understood from the overtures of Madame d'Alençon. Louise desires that if the Emperor intends to keep her son still in prison, he should declare his intention openly. Gave her to understand that the cure of her son's illness rested chiefly upon his deliverance, which lay in his own power to effect by listening to reason. Advises the Emperor to retain Francis prisoner, for various considerations, although he has lost the aid of the English.
The agreement with England causes great confidence here. An English ambassador is expected,—said to be the treasurer of Calais. (fn. 5) Is advertised by reliable letters from England that the King will make warm suit to the Emperor for the French king's release, and the Pope will probably do the same, at the instigation of the King and Cardinal, whom he dares not disobey. Perhaps this is the cause of Gregory Casale's journey from here to Rome. * * * Lyons, 14 Nov. 1525.
15 Nov. R. O. 1768. WM. BARETH to CRUMWELL.
Wishes to hear of his welfare, and of "my maistrys, your wyfe," to whom he sends six plovers "for to drynke a quart of wyn withall." Both himself and his wife have been sore vexed with ague, which has prevented him from coming. Trusts him to solicit his matter to Mr. Rowe. Asks for his advice about it. Wyttryng, 15 Nov.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To the right worshipful Mr. Thomas Cromwell, be this dd. at London.


  • 1. In which Sir Richard Weston is to succeed him, says the letter to the King.
  • 2. Erasmus had already written to the King and Polydore Vergil on this subject, and the following are abstracts of his letters, the dates of which are uncertain:—ERASMUS to HENRY VIII. (Er. Ep. p. 774.)Sends him the first draft of his treatise De Libero Arbitrio against Luther. It is not yet completed, in consequence of his ill health and bodily pains. If his Majesty likes the work, Erasmus will complete it, and get it printed elsewhere. No printer here would dare to print anything which contains the least reflection on Luther, but every one may write what he likes against the Pope. Basle, anno 1523.ERASMUS to POLYDORE VERGIL. (Er. Ep. p. 777.)About printing the works of Polydore by Frobenius, and the expence, of which the printer is afraid, as nothing sells now in Germany except the writings of Luther. I cannot say enough of the perfidy of N.; he circulated a rumor at Antwerp that my picture and my books were burnt at Rome, and therefore that I am now writing against the Pope; whereas Clement VII. sent me, unsolicited, a most honorable diploma and 200 gold florins. I have written a book, De Libero Arbitrio, against Luther. Basle, 1523.
  • 3. Omitted in the original despatch, and supplied from cipher in the other copy.
  • 4. In the other copy this sentence stands as follows: "respondisse, et auxisse eorum exercitum in numero 4,000 peditum vel circa."
  • 5. Fitzwilliam, who was captain of Guisnes and treasurer of the Household, was actually sent.