Henry VIII: September 1533, 21-25

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1882.

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'Henry VIII: September 1533, 21-25', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533, (London, 1882), pp. 477-481. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol6/pp477-481 [accessed 21 June 2024].

. "Henry VIII: September 1533, 21-25", in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533, (London, 1882) 477-481. British History Online, accessed June 21, 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol6/pp477-481.

. "Henry VIII: September 1533, 21-25", Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6, 1533, (London, 1882). 477-481. British History Online. Web. 21 June 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol6/pp477-481.


September 1533, 21-25

21 Sept.
R. O.
1141. Cromwell to Lord Lisle.
Requests him to suffer the executors of Robert Baynam, of Calais, to administer his testament freely, notwithstanding the letter which he formerly wrote at the suit of his own servant, Bartholomew Bayneham, Robert's son, to stay his father's goods for a time. Thanks him and my Lady for their goodness to his said servant. Stepney, 21 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
21 Sept.
R. O.
1142. John Abbot Of Welbeck to Cromwell.
I send you your poor fee. I received your letters, dated 5 Sept., by your chaplain, Richard West ; and, according to your desire, I send you a good bay gelding, the best I have. At our next meeting I will further show you my mind concerning our religion. I hear that in the Lower House an Act has been conceived touching vicars, from which no man can obtain any advantage except the Bishop. My religion was mostly founded in spiritualities, and if the vicars are called home, and their benefices given to secular priests, it would undo the third part of our houses. By the Pope's bulls, and the King's grants, we may give our vicarages unto our religious brethren. Welbek, St. Matthew's Day.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Worshipful.
23 Sept.
R. O. C.'s Letters, 257.
1143. Cranmer to Cromwell.
Begs his favor to John Broke, plaintiff in a cause against Ric. Mares. Begs him to remember the writer's kinsman, John Padley, sanctuary man in Westminster. Otford, 23 Sept. Signed.
Add. : Of the Council.
23 Sept.
R. O.
1144. Robt. Kayllwey to Thos. Broke.
There is a parsonage in Wiltshire, near Salisbury, called Chawlke, in the hands of one Lodge, by lease of the provost of King's College, Cambridge, which lies very commodious for me. Though no fine has been hitherto given for the lease, I will give Mr. Fox, now provost of the College, 20l. for a lease of 40 years. If you will get Mr. Cromwell to speak to Mr. Foxe, so that I might get it by his means, I would give you 40s. If Mr. Cromwell obtains it for me I will give him 20l. Salisbury, 23 Sept.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Mr. Thos. Broke, at the sign of the King's Head, within Temple Bar.
23 Sept. 1145. Nicholas Shaxton.
See Grants in September, No. 18.
24 Sept.
R. O.
1146. Jane Basset to Lady Lisle.
I received your letter, dated Calais, 10 July, in which you desire the great book should remain at Soberton. Thank you for the thanks you have sent Mr. Dr. for his kindness. Thomasine has been with me since I came to this country. When I leave Umberleigh she goes to Alverdescotte. Thanks lady Lisle for her gown and the bucks. Has not got them, as the game is far behind. This winter will ask her for a doe. Is surprised that anything should be lost at Soberton, as she entered in a book everything that was in the house, and therefore Nich. Person and Seller shall be answerable. Umberleigh, 24 Sept.
Desires her remembrance to Mastres Frances, her sister Phillippe, and the rest.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
24 Sept.
R. O.
1147. John Cheryton to Lord Lisle.
The Pope came to Pisa 23 Sept., preceded by the Corpus Domini, and with him 16 cardinals, 100 spearmen, and 100 musketeers. He and the duke of Florence have in Pisa above 2,000 men, for the most part gentlemen. He has left Rome with most part of his baggage. They say he will not return to Rome, but go to Nice, and the duke of Savoy has refused to let him land there, although the French king has appointed to meet him there. The Pope will therefore land at Marseilles. They say the meeting is for a marriage between the Pope's daughter (fn. 1) and the French king's son. All say he is going to raise an army, some think against the Emperor, and some for him, to enable him to land in England ; to which the Pope intends as much good as a fox among a flock of sheep. Can have no other passage here but in the same navy in which the Pope sails, in which there are 10 galleys and 8 very great ships, sent by the French king, and well appointed. Will send him further news from Marseilles. Prays that God will send my Lady a son and heir.
"My Lord, as for aowre holle fader the Pop, he has ij. the fayryste wemyn to hys wyvys that ever I sowe aowtt of Engelonde, for thaye ar mor lokyn angellys than erle (earthly) womyn ; and the Pop fyndes mor myn (men) for to wat apon thym than he dyd for to wat a pon the Corpys Dome (Corpus Domini)."
Hol., pp. 2. Dated at the head : "1533, 24 Sept., at Pyse."
II. Same to Same.
Has received in Leghorn a letter from Lisle, dated 19 April. Thanks him for his great goodness. Has sold the Mare (the Mary?) to Antone de Maryne, according to Lisle's order. He and the master have caused the writer to spend in this voyage more than 1,400 g. ducats, and has lost by her sale above 60l., and in victuals above 100 marks stg. My Lord, Antone Gethott (Guidotti?) and Jas. Provytt have written here all the mischief they can. Have yet come to no arrangement about the King's ordnance. Will come home by the first ship to England.
Hol., p. 1. Dated at the head the same as the preceding. Add. Endd.
24 Sept.
R. O.
1148. Christopher Hales to Cromwell.
I received your letters this day concerning our Holy Maid, and I think her holiness will appear such as you write. It will, therefore, be a good deed to make it manifest. No affection shall prevent me from executing the King's commands. Yesterday and today we kept the quarter sessions. That done, I will apply the purpose to the best effect that I can ; and as I can catch them, one after other, I will send them to you. The two religious men and the official are of as good reputation as any of their degree, and therefore may the sooner deceive others if they be of evil disposition. There is a fame here among some fools that, at the request of Mr. Bedyll, you favor one Tomson, a priest, intending to promote him to the mastership of the Maison Dieu. If ye knew the man, as many do, you would not help him to such a promotion. He is the worst priest I ever knew, but can help himself with his tongue and his audacity. Let ye not to say this upon my report. Show kindness to the poor prisoner here, to whom the King granted pardon, of which you have a bill to be signed. If he lie here during the winter he will be undone. Canterbury, Wednesday before Michaelmas.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Councillor and Master of the Jewels.
25 Sept.
R. O.
1149. Christopher Hales to Cromwell.
According to your late letters I have not only apprehended Dr. Bokkyng, cellarer of Christchurch, and Mr. Hadley, one of the penitentiaries there, but have entered their chambers, and examined all things belonging to them. I send up Bokkyng and Hadley, with all the writings found in the said Doctor's chamber. In Hadley's chamber I found nothing. These things have been handled as secretly as possible. The official is yet in the country, keeping his visitation. You shall be sure to have him at his return, and whatever of his things can be found. Tomorrow I ride for the parson of Aldyngton, whom I will also send. Canterbury, Thursday night before Michaelmas.
If no cause appear to the contrary, I pray you send home the religious men as soon as you can.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Councillor and Master of the Jewels.
R. O. 2. Henry Man to Dr. Bockyng.
Of late it has pleased God to give me some knowledge of His secret and wonderful works which He works daily in his special elect virgin named Eliz. Barton, your spiritual daughter. This knowledge doth more edify my soul, and more fervently "accend" my heart in the love of God, than anything that ever I heard spoken, or anything "that ever I have read in Holy Scripture." I beseech you, therefore, in visceribus Jesu Christi, to accept me as your spiritual son, and make me partaker of your prayers. I also beseech you "ofttimes to put that my good mother Elizabeth, in whom is my trust above all mortal creatures, in remembrance to offer me up in sacrifice to the most glorious Trinity, and to beg grace for me that may so mortify me that I may say with St. Paul, Vivo autem jam non ego ; vivit vero in me Christus ; and that I may so set my desire, my delectation, my estuant affection, and my fervent love in God, that I may attain to such cognition and love of Him as may be had in this life." Charterhouse of Shene. Signed : Henry Man, professed and proctor there most unworthy.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To his devout father in God, Mr. Dr. Bockyng, cellarer of the monastery of Christ's Church in Canterbury.
25 Sept.
R. O. St. P. VII. 509.
1150. Vaughan to Cromwell.
Waits at Cologne for the King's pleasure. Certified the King that the duke of Saxony would have no intelligence with him. Thinks that as he is the chief maintainer of Lutheranism, he will not embroil himself in any fresh difficulty, especially as the King has repudiated Katharine, which affects the Emperor. From want of success in his commission, stays at Cologne for further orders. The King has been greatly deceived by Staber, who has certified many lies in order to obtain his stipend. Thinks the Lutheran sect will never be overthrown. Enumerates the German princes by whom it is favored. Ferdinand, for a yearly tribute, abandons the regiment of Hungary. A gentleman in the territory of duke George of Saxony lately burnt two rich abbeys there. Hears that a number of Gueldrois have been raised for service against England, which they threaten in their foolish way. Regrets his utter ignorance of the German tongue. Cologne, 25 Sept.
Wishes his letters to be sent to Harman Ryng, the younger, at St. Antony's in Cologne.
Hol. Add.
[25] (fn. 2) Sept.
Vit. B. XIV. 58. B. M.
1151. [Peter Vannes] to Cromwell.
"Mag ... habem ... Dicit ... secumque ... ab eo ... vagantem ... pontifex intra ... non ante xxiiii. diem ... ascensurus.
Hic assidue construuntur nova ... tabulata, ut excipiatur pontifex ... tum, et Galli conqueruntur, quod hospi ...
Ubi primum convenerint isti pri[ncipes] ... aliquid scire potero dignum quod sc ... id statim, ut in mandatis habeo ... significabo.
Tanta est hic hominum nobilium scilicet ... fluentium turba, ut mirum sit, et ... Rex, nec pontifex adsunt, adeo ... in eorum adventu, quam multos eject ...
Rogo quam vehementissime ut me ... suscipias commendata, et non gra ... contrarotulatori optimo, (fn. 3) et pr ... cujus in me humanitati mul ... commendare, et bene vale ... Septembris 1533."
Mutilated. Hol. Add.


  • 1. Sic.
  • 2. Supplied from modern marginal note.
  • 3. Sir William Paulet, Controller of the Household.