Henry VIII: August 1534, 6-10

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 7, 1534. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1883.

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August 1534, 6–10

7 Aug. 1044. Cranmer's Visitation of Lincoln.
R. O. i. John bishop of Lincoln to Thos. archbishop of Canterbury. Has received his mandate dated 11 June last. Protests that nothing done by him at the Archbishop's visitation is intended to be in derogation of the King or the statutes or customs of the realm, nor as a consent to the Archbishop's jurisdiction, except in cases specially expressed by the law, and as far as he is bound by the statutes of his cathedral, cites the dean and chapter to appear before the Archbishop's commissary on Wednesday, 5 Aug. 29 July 15 “x[xx]iiij.,” consecr. 14.
ii. Letters patent of Henry VIII., ordering all dukes, earls, bailiffs, &c. to assist the archbishop of Canterbury in his visitation of his province. Westm., 27 April 26 Hen. VIII.
iii. Proceedings at the visitation of the cathedral church of Lincoln, held by Ric. Gwent, D.D., official of Canterbury. On Tuesday 4 Aug. 1534, after a sermon by Richard Hoore, John Rayne put in the bishop's protestation and a bi containing the names of the canons and other officers of the church. Geo. Henage, the dean, also put in a protestation, and Gwent proceeded to the examination of John Rayne.
Friday, 7 Aug. The visitation was prorogued by Gwent until 1 Dec. He received 66s. 8d. for procurations from the dean and chapter, but John Rayne refused to pay on the bishop's behalf. The deep of prorogation and the protestations of Rayne and Hennage are appended.
Lat. Later copy, pp. 9. Endd.
R. O. 2. Another more modern copy.
Lat. pp. 14. Endd.
7 Aug. 1045. J. Rawson, Prior of Kilmainham, to Henry VIII.
Lamb. MS. 602, f. 44. St. P. II. 201. On the 13th of last month, lord James Butler, the bishop of Waterford, the mayor of the same and Rawson informed him how it was reported that a chaplain of the Emperor's had landed at the Dangyll on the West coast, but his business was not known. The earl of Ossory had more certain knowledge by a letter from Limerick, which they inclosed in theirs of the 25th. On July 31 word was brought that the archbishop of Dublin was murdered by James son of the earl of Kildare, while taking ship for England. He has also been burning and destroying the English subjects with Oconnor and other Irish. Hearing no news of Sir Wm. Skeffington, who is named deputy, told the mayor he would set off for England to the King. Arrived here on the 6th inst. Having the palsy, is unable to ride; his brother the archdeacon (fn. 1) is therefore continuing the journey alone. St. Davis in Wales, 7 Aug.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
7 Aug. 1046. Thos. Salter, Monk of the Charterhouse, London, to Cromwell.
R. O. Implores his compassion, because he gave true information to Cromwell, and after to Mr. Bedyll, when he was before them in the chapterhouse on Friday after Corpus Christi day. His uncharitable prior and the brethren mean to bring him to some miserable end, as divers men of the Order have been of late years. Trusts to Cromwell's friendly promise for protection. His prior keeps him more like an infidel than a Christian man, out of sight and speech of all his friends, so that he shall never be able to say mass, as he can make no confession to any of the Order, first, on account of the malice they bear him, and secondly, because he has heard with his own ears that against the law they have disclosed his confession. It is no wonder that a number of the Order have fled beyond sea without authority from the Pope, if they were dealt with like himself. Over three years ago dan John Norton, one of the monks here, being shut up alone in his cell day and night, fell into such despair that he would have killed himself if sure watch had not been kept. Dan John Batemanson, who was then prior, fearing the clamor that would have arisen in such a case, discharged him from the Order. The said monk is now a canon in the West country, doing very well; but this undiscreet prior that we have now, rather than release me, would bring me to some miserable end, as a monk of our Order lately was in the North country. His name was dan Christopher Huddeswelle. He was buried in a dunghill. 7 Aug.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary.
1047. The Carthusians.
R. O. In the Charterhouse of London, at the hour when father Batmanson died, one of the brethren who was then sexton had a revelation. He saw father Batmanson and the last prior that was before him both kneeling before the Trinity and making intercession for our religion. In that revelation it was shown to him that the cloth we wore for our “abbats” (habits) was too fine, and upon this our priors commanded it to be changed, although it was surely cheap enough, for the cheapest, that is, blanket cloth. “And for a testimonial of the same there was a little piece of blanket cloth brought to the Charterhouse of Shene to demonstrate the same revelation, but whether the same piece of cloth was sent from heaven by some angel or not, surely I cannot tell; but the very truth is that the proctor of Shene, whose name was Baylie, did show the same piece of cloth to his prior to all his convent.” It was also revealed that we should not eat from pewter platters, but from treen dishes, and that we must not have three habits in store, but only two.
ii. At Mountgrace there is a brother who has revelations, though I cannot tell what they be, but he bears a great name in our religion. I trust his revelations may prove better than those of the Maid of Kent. His name is Flecher. One of the monks at Mountgrace was buried in a dunghill, why I cannot tell. The prior and his convent will defend it as much as they can, but I think it not lawful to bury their brother in a dunghill for breaking of a poor ceremony.
iii. “Lamentable annotations taken forth of our rule.” 1. Christ commands us to preach his word to every creature; our rule commands us only to preach among ourselves, so we deny Christ. 2. Our Lord commanded his disciples when he sent them forth to take such meat and drink as was set before them; our statutes command us never to eat flesh, and we cannot have it, even if the physician say it will save our lives. Thus I cannot see but we have professed to be menkillers. Not long ago, when dan Richard Hasket was sick in the Charterhouse at Shene, the physician was sent for and said if he might diet him he could save his life. Answer was made that he might not leave the house nor eat flesh; “so the good brother was cast away for lack of comfort.” 3. Our Lord commands us to visit the sick; our statutes command us not to go abroad. 4. Our Lord commands us to help the poor, weak and needy; our rule says if we give above 5¾d. in alms we shall be accursed with the general sentence on Palm Sunday. 5. If we speak anything against the prior's mind we are threatened with imprisonment, and if we are confined we are treated like thieves in Newgate.
Pp. 3. Endd.
7 Aug. 1048. W. (fn. 2) Prior of Suthwike to Lord Lisle.
R. O. Has received Lisle's letter dated Calais, 20 July, concerning his servant Rob. Markes for a little hold of the prior's. Has promised it to his own servant John Cooper, but if any one else had it, it should be Markes. Mentions a bargain made by Markes with one Carpenter. Will be glad to see his lordship when he comes to Hampshire. Suthwik, 7 Aug.
Hol. p. 1. Add.
8 Aug. 1049. Count of Villa Nuova Abbatis to Abraim Vassa and Alois Gritti.
Add. MS. 28,587, f. II. B. M. To satisfy his council of the parliament of Paris, the French king has been obliged to renounce the strict alliance he made with our lord (nostro Signor, i. e. the Turk ?) and you, to the injury of the Christians; otherwise neither his kingdom nor his life would have been safe. He has been obliged to promise, if he wished to marry his two daughters, the one to the eldest son of the duke of Lorraine, the other to the king of Scots, that he will never give aid “alla Mta del nostro Sor,” but rather to his destruction and that of Barbarossa. The king of England required of him a similar pledge, otherwise he would not give his only (unica) daughter to the Dauphin ; and as soon as this was agreed to, England made peace with Scotland through the medium of France. * * * *
Venice, 8 Aug. 1534.
Ital., pp. 11. Modern copy.
Headed: Copia d'una lettera scritta et mandatta ad Abraim Vassa et al Sor Alois Gritti. Dal Sor Conte de Villanuova Abbatis.
Endd.: Venecia, 1534. Las cartas y copias y examen que embia Figueroa del hombre que iba a buscar a Barbarrossa.
1050. Hungary.
Vesp. F. I. 23. B. M. Minute of instructions from the King to his ambassadors with Francis in favor of John de Zapol.
To write to the ambassadors to tell the French king how king John, who has been a staunch friend of France and enemy of all the Imperialists, having established his kingdom with the aid of some of the German princes, forced king Ferdinand to make peace with the Turk on condition of letting king John have peaceful possession of Hungary. The Turk was to send Aloysius Gritti to execute the treaty. Now the king of France having caused king John to send to the Pope for absolution has led to two “inconvenients” for the said king; first the weakening of his German alliances, and second, that the Pope mocks both him and France (che il Papa sie fatto beffe consua gloria di sua Mta Xma et di lui). Francis ought therefore to take king John bravely under his protection, and give a good despatch to his secretary, whom the ambassadors are to favor. They may also tell Francis he will see in what account the Pope holds him and the promises he has made when all his proceedings tend to alienate his friends and to exalt the Emperor.
Ital., p. 1. Headed: Minuta di quello che scrive la Ma del Re alli soi ambas[ciatori].
9 Aug. 1051. Leonard Smyth to [Lady Lisle.]
R. O. Received her letter by Mr. Bowser.
Speaks to and instructs the arbitrators as he can find time convenient. By Mr. Secretary's order, has inarticled the whole matter with the advice of Mr. Marven, that the arbitrators may look over it at leisure. Will also attend when they meet to answer questions. When he gives his part of the articles to the lord Chancellor, who is in Essex, will know somewhat of his mind. Has received no letter from her about Lord Dawbney. Hessey spoke of such a matter. Went immediately to Mr. Roll to search. Her tenants are not likely to have any trouble from Hyde. Has delivered two coat cloths costing 30s. to Lewes. The other two servants at Subberton have not come for their coats. Can send two other coat cloths to Calais, but Holte says he will have some of his money before sending any more. London, 9 Aug.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.
9 Aug. 1052. Anne [Round] (fn. 3) to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I thank you for the offer made in your letter. I do not deserve the honor, but would be glad to do you service in the keeping of your daughter. (fn. 4) She has been very well since she came into this country, and is beloved by all who see her. I am very proud to hear she is thought more beautiful than mademoiselle Anne. (fn. 5) I should be glad if she could learn French soon. She has made a very good beginning. Bours, 9 Aug. Signed.
Fr., p. 1, slightly mutilated. Add.
9 Aug. 1053. Anne Rouaud (Madame de Bours) to Lady Lisle.
R. O. I thank you for the “greze“ and pins and sleeves (?) (“mansses,” or “mausses ?“) you have sent me. I should like to find something in this country you might wish for, to make you a present. Your daughter is well, as the bearer will show you. She has not shown that she is weary of this country, and no girl could behave better. I have told her I shall go some day to Boulogne, and you may be sure we shall visit you. She sends a small remembrance for you and her sisters. I send some preserves of cherries and prunes. Bours, 9 Aug. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.
10 Aug. 1054. Sir William Kingston and Sir Thos. Palmer to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I thank you and my lady for my tokens, which I have given my wife to the intent we may have some increase thereof, but as she has been continually sick, she cannot apply the same. The bearer, John Wodwarde, has desired me, master Palmer, to write to you for the advancement of his bill granted him by the King, who is very good lord to him. I wrote to your lordship from Guildford, where I begged to be informed of your pleasure therein. As to Painswick Wood, I am loath to be in trouble with him who has done me many displeasure, and I intend that my money shall be as good to you as any other man's. London, 10 Aug. Signed.
p. 1. Add.: Deputy of Calais. Endd.: 10 Aug. 1534.
10 Aug. 1055. Roland Lee, Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, to Cromwell.
R. O. The — day of this — month I came to Shrewsbury, and the — day came thither Mr. Wingfield and Justice Porte, also Mr. Wernon, Russell and Sir Edw. Crofte, but no other commissioners. Every man will do his best in the administration of justice. By procurement of Anthony Knyvet I received from the King a letter for a prebend in my church tempore vacationis, untruly surmising that I would not do therein at the King's pleasure. Give credence to the bearer, by whom I have sent a nomination. I have written twice to Mr. Bedell, to which I beg you will put your helping hand. Shrewsbury, St. Lawrence's day.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Secretary. Endd.
10 Aug. 1056. Glastonbury.
R. O. Engagement by Ric. Whityng, abbot, and the convent of Glastonbury, of Jas. Renynger of Glastonbury, singing man. Renynger agrees to sing and play upon the organ at the usual times of service; to sing and play instruments of music at Christmas and other season when required; to teach six children in pricke song and descaunte, and two of them to play on the organ. The convent will find “clavyngcordes” for the children to play upon. Salary, 10l. a year with a livery gown, or 13s. 4d.; two loads of wood a year, a house rent-free or 13s. 4d. If Renynger is taken up by the King's commission to serve him, and returns within a year, he shall have his place again. 10 Aug. 26 Hen. VIII. Vellum, scal gone.
Endd.: Allow this annuity of 10l. with the arrearages for three years ending at Mich. 10 Eliz. Winchester—Wa. Mildmay.


  • 1. Richard Rawson, archdeacon of Essex.
  • 2. William Noxton.
  • 3. The signature is that of Anne Rouaud, madame de Bours.
  • 4. Mary Basset. It appears by the correspondence of later years that she must have gone to madame de Bours in 1534, as she is said to have been with the family four years and she left in the spring of 1538.
  • 5. Anne Basset, another daughter of lady Lisle.