Henry VIII: October 1534, 1-5

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 7, 1534. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1883.

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October 1534, 1–5

1 Oct. 1218. Henry VIII. to the City of Waterford.
Lamb. MS. 632, f. 261. Has sent an army to Ireland to subdue his enemies and rebels. Will always provide for their defence. Grafton, 1 Oct. (fn. 1)
Copy, p. 1.
1 Oct. 1219. Lord Edmund Howard to Cromwell.
R. O. I desire your favor in the matter between Raffe Worsley and me, that the lord Chancellor may make a final end between us, which I will abide by. To follow daily suits in the law is small pleasure to me, and great cost, whereof I have small need. Calais, 1 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
1 Oct. 1220. Sir Francis Bryan to Lord Lisle.
R. O. Assures him he has such friends at Court that Whettyll has little chance of success in his suit for the office Lisle wishes Wynnebank to have Gives him friendly counsel on two points: 1. to consider he is the King's officer, and to fear no man in doing right: 2. Bryan is informed Lisle is “no good husband” in keeping his house, “which is a great undoing of many men.” Sends regards to my lady, in which Sir John Russell joins. Grafton, 1 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Sealed. Endd.: “The first of October 1534.”
1 Oct. 1221. The Cistercians in Scotland.
Harl. MS. 2363, f. 3. B. M. Donald, abbot a Cupar, and Walter abbot of Glenluce (Vallis Lucis) commissaries of the chapter general of the Cistercian order, to Andrew abbot of Melrose.
Order him to obey the visitation and reformation of the abbot of “Karolilocus” (Chailly). There is a complaint that he still allows the monks to have portions, pensions and private gardens. If he does not obey, he is cited to appear at the next chapter general. Edinburgh, 1 Oct. 1534.
Lat., copy, pp. 6.
Ibid. f. 5 b. B. M. ii. Reply of Donald abbot of Cupar and Walter abbot of “Vallis Lucis” to a petition of the monks of Melrose, Newbotill and Balmeryno to be allowed to have a private gardens, and an allowance of money for purchase of clothes, &c. These requests, though contrary to the vow of poverty, they allow under certain conditions. If these are not fulfilled, their accompanying letters must be executed. The foresaid day and place.
Lat., copy, pp. 7.
Ibid. f. 10. B. M. iii. Reply of the monks [of Melrose, Newhottill and Balmeryno] to the letter of the commissaries, defending their customs, and asking for a respite until the next general chapter.
Lat., copy, pp. 12.
Ibid. f. 15 b. B. M. iv. Answer of the commissaries to the preceding, declaring that those who disobey the orders of the Visitor will be excommunicated.
Lat., copy, pp. 4.
1 Oct. 1222. The Archbishop of Lunden to Charles V.
Lanx, Karl V. 125. Further reports about Lubeck. Hears that John Frederic duke of Saxony wishes the kingdom of Denmark for himself. Henry duke of Brunswick, who was here lately, says he knows it; and the writer can well believe it, for the Lubeckers could not have carried on the war last year except by money from England or the duke of Saxony. * * * Vienna, 1 Oct. 1534.
2 Oct. 1223. Sir J. Russell to Cromwell.
R. O. Whereas it pleased you to write to my lord of York for the advowson of a prebend held by Mr. Wythers (fn. 2) in the Collegiate Church of Beverley, for my chaplain Manchester, and my lord replied that he never intended to give advowson of that or any other thing in his collation, but that you should have the next prebend not much above 40l., the same prebend is void by the death of Wythers. Though it is somewhat above 40l., I suppose it will fall within the limits of his promise. I beseech you, therefore, to remember my chaplain. Ampthill, 2 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary.
2 Oct. 1224. John Husee to Lord Lisle.
R. O. By help of Mr. Norres and Mr. Bryan and my own importunity I obtained Mr. Cromwell's letter and the King's, the latter referring to the receipt of the admiral of France, who comes here as ambassador ; and as I attended upon Mr. Bryan, the King was riding ahunting to Ansard Green. Bryan asked him what gunshot he would have at the receipt of the Admiral. The King desired that you should have 150 shot at his entry in the town. Though Whethill makes hot pursuit he shall not succeed. He wishes to obtain the King and Queen's letters, and makes a great brag. Mr. Cromwell says you need not care for my lord Chamberlain. Has not yet been able to obtain the commission from Mr. Secretary. Young Cokson has a bill for his father's room. The earl of Ossory keeps Waterford and his son Kilkenny, and Garethe playeth his old part. Could not carry the letters, as his horse died at Stony Stratford. Fears he will have to pay the owner, though it was not through the writer's negligence. Mr. Kingston desires to be recommended. If Mr. Secretary come, will move him concerning Mr. Plommer. Sends letters from the King, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Bryan, and Mr. Treasurer. Begs he will have nothing to do with Turney, as such matters are not well taken here. London, 2 Oct.
Hol., pp. 2. Sealed. Add. Endd.: The 2nd day of October 1534.
2 Oct. 1225. Coining in Wales.
R. O. Examinations before the King's commissioners in the Marches of Wales.
i. Henry ap Jankyn ap Madok, tailor, examined at Beaudeley 17 May 26 Hen. VIII., deposed to having received a loan of 30 groats from Thos. ap Phillip Penry at Ewas, for the purpose of buying a hosecloth, but after making the purchase and paying away some of the money he was challenged for passing false groats; on which he took the remainder to the churchyard and cast them into the charnel house, were children were at school. He was then attached and put into prison.
ii. Thomas Philip Penry, examined before Sir Will. Thomas, one of the commissioners, 17 May 26 Hen. VIII., denying that he ever lent money to Harry ap Jankyn, though he had lost money in playing cards with him against two other persons.
Will. Prychard deposes, in answer to an information by John Seysill, to having received three crowns before Christmas was twelvemonth from Rob. David to buy him a coat cloth, a shirt coat, and a pair of hosecloth, and that delivering one of the crowns to Philip Banner at Bergevenny he said it was naught and broke it, deponent thinking till then that it was good gold. He himself “branned” another of them, and the third Seysill took from him.
Rob. David says he sold a gelding in Burgevenny to one —, and received for it 4 cr. good gold, one of which he delivered to Prechard to buy a coat cloth, but the latter on his return from Burgevenny said it was naught.
iii. John ap Thomas ap Griffith alias John Here, examined 21 June 26 Hen. VIII. touching his communications with Ric. Vaughan of Llanvihangell Comdu, who sold him the mould or print of a groat, with instructions how to coin with it, but it broke on his attempting to do so. On meeting with Vaughan afterwards, he demanded his money back; and Vaughan instead of 3s. 4d. good money gave him 20 new groats, which he confessed were of sorry metal.
iv. David ap Rice Elvell, examined 21 June 26 Hen. VIII. touching his meeting with John Here's wife going to pledge a kirtle, as she said, to the wife of Jas. Whitney.
v. The confession of Ric. Vaughan alias Ric. ap Thomas Vaughan before the commissioners, 23 June 26 Hen. VIII., giving a different account of his intercourse with Here, but acknowledging that he had coined money 30 years ago, for which he received a pardon from Henry VII. in consideration of his services beyond sea.
vi. Examinations of some women on whom false money had been passed, with further examinations of Vaughan implicating other persons, and confessing that be stole from John ap John ap Cadwalader, goldsmith, a print of the crown of 5s., of two pieces of iron and steel, and sold it to Thos. Hay for a noble; and that he delivered to John Here a mould of ashes of the print of the groat for a hose cloth or russet kersey, but denies other statements of Here's. This last examination is at Shrewsbury, 19 Aug., before three of the commissioners, Sir Thos. Englefilde, John Pakyngton and John Vernon.
vii. Examination at Shrewsbury, 1 Oct. 26 Hen. VIII., of Jevan ap Hoell accusing dan Ric. Smyth, of Strateflore Abbey, of furnishing him with the means of coining in his cell.
viii. Examination of dan Ric. Smyth, 2 Oct., vindicating his own innocence.
Pp. 15.
3 Oct. 1226. Henry VIII. to James V.
The letter printed in State Papers, V. 7, is of the year 1535.
3 Oct. 1227. Sir Godfrey Foljambe to Cromwell.
R. O. I have received the King's writ of injunction by the hands of your servant Will. Brabson, for staying a nisi prius betwixt the King and me for the manor of Blakebroke; also another in the matter between Sir John Byron and me; also in the matter of my nephew Godfrey Foljamber ;—all of which I have obeyed, and would be glad if you and my lord Chancellor would determine the matter. I wish the King would appoint one of his servants to be sheriff of Notts and Derbyshire, “and none of these retained men.” Walton, 3 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary.
3 Oct. 1228. Count of Cifuentes to Charles V.
Add. MS. 28,587, f. 46. B. M. What he wrote about Anne Boleyn's falling into disgrace seems to be a mistake, for the ambassador in England, who wrote on Aug. 27, makes no mention of it. The ambassadors both in England and France speak of the coming of Casal here, to assist in the papal election in the French interest, after which he will go as English ambassador to Venice. Rome, 3 Oct. 1534.
Sp., pp. 5. Modern copy.
Ibid. f. 49. 2. Contemporary abstract of the above, with marginal notes.
Sp., pp. 5. Modern copy.
4 Oct. 1229. John Alen to Cromwell.
R. O. St. P. II. 202. The Deputy (fn. 3) is at Beaumaris, and the Northern men's horses have been on shipboard these 12 days. Fears they will not have again such fair wind and weather. Mr. Brereton lies at the seaside in readiness. If their first appointment to Dublin had been kept, they might have been there, but now they tarry to pass with the Deputy. Begs that aid may be sent to Dublin. The rebel has spent all his ammunition, and will be destitute thereof unless he wins Dublin Castle. Mr. Brabazon and he are grieved to see so little haste made to resist him. It is reported that those who went from Bristol are at Waterford. Desires Cromwell to thank the abbot of Chester for lodging Mr. Brabazon. Chester, 4 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Secretary.


  • 1. There is a modern copy of this letter in the R. O., transcribed below another of th 20th Feb. (1536), which will be noticed under that date.
  • 2. John Wythers, who was also a prebendary of St. Paul's.
  • 3. Sir Will. Skeffingtion, deputy of Ireland.