Henry VIII: February 1534, 21-25

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Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 7, 1534. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1883.

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February 1534, 21-25

21 Feb. 215. The Earl of Northumberland and Sir Thos. Nevill.
R. O. Debts due to Sir Thos. Nevill by the earl of Northumberland.
A bond of the said lord, John Lamplughe of Cockermouth and Gilbert Wedall, gent., dated 9 Dec. anno 11, 152l. 10s. Wm. Worm and Wm. Burgh, gentlemen, by bill dated 2 Dec. a° 17, for receipts of plate to my lord's use, 64l. 13s. 10d. Wm. Burgh, by bill sealed, dated 21 Aug. a° 17, 35l. 14s. The Earl, by bill dated 3 Dec. a° 19, 52l. 19s. 2d. The Earl and Henry Whitreason, by obligation dated 12 Dec. a° 20, 189l. 3s. 8d. Total by specialties, 494l. 0s. 8d.
Delivered to Burgh to my lord's use: 2 gilt pots and 2 flagons, worth 48l. 2s. 10d., ale and water pots to Hen. Whitreason, a gilt cup for the christening of lord Fitzwalter to John Spence. and 2 caps of assay to Wm. Burgh. Total, 76l. 14s. 2d.
These obligations and bills Robt. Ormeston, servant of Sir Thos. Nevill, delivered to Mr. Cromwell, 21 Feb. 25 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Endd.
21 Feb. 216. Piracy.
R. O. “Articles bailleez par Thomas Masure, marchant Françoys, a la bonne grace do Roy et son Conseil.”
On Saturday 21st Feb. 1533, a French ship lying at anchor off Pevensey was robbed by pirates of the English sea of a trunk and a packet containing cloth, jewelry and mercery, to the value of 24l. 1s. 4d. Begs for redress.
Fr., pp. 2. Endd.
21 Feb. 217.—to—.
R. O. I assure you the Pope is quite as anxious to find the king of England's marriage good as he himself is. All that is required is to find some means of satisfying honor on both sides. The Imperialists cry “comme beaulx diables” to the Pope to dispatch this matter against the King. Some threaten, others cajole him. He never was in such perplexity. I assure you he is formally for the king of England, and has declared it openly in full Consistories. You must on your side get the King to send hither an excusator, and the Pope is willing after that to send a cardinal to Cambray with two colleagues, who shall take cognisance of the matter as far as the definitive sentence exclusively. The King can say that, out of regard for the King his brother, he is willing to see what the delegates wish to say, and when he is informed of their arrival can send to them to know their powers, after which he can do what he thinks best. The King will not be in the least bound, for he will only have sent an excusator, and if he do not like the look of matters he can always fall upon his feet, for I fancy he has put such order in his kingdom that he can always deal the Pope such a blow as he pleases. But for the love you bear him get him to send the excusator as soon as possible, and do not let him publish the things which I hear are granted in this Parliament against the Pope, until he sees more plainly how the Pope will conduct himself in this affair, and leave it to me to do the rest. If I do not bring matters about to his wish (unless some new obstacle arise) I will let him cut my head off. Let me know as soon as possible what you have done with him; for I will wait here till his answer come. Rome, 21 Feb.
Fr., pp. 2. Endd.: “The minute of a letter of advice from Rome by one of the French solicitors for the sending of an excusator.”
21 Feb. 218. Sir George Throgmorton to Cromwell.
R. O. Writes to desire his favor for the bearer, who is farmer to the princess Dowager of a mill and pool called Fecnam, and who expects to be put out of his farm by an act of resumption. Cowhotun, 21 Feb.
Will wait on him after the assizes according to promise, unless Cromwell can get him leave to stay at home. Signed; George Throkmartun.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: To the right worshipful Mr. Cromwell, one of the King's honorable Council.
22 Feb. 219. Raince to Montmorency.
Le Grand, iii. 630. “Messeigneurs de Paris” are writing the news. The said ambassadors can well boast of having achieved a chef d'æuvre and served the king of England, contrary to every one's belief, and in spite of the whole world. This is the greatest obligation Francis has conferred upon the king of England. The chief thing is now to take care that nothing be known about it, and that a report be spread, if possible, that the case is despaired of here, and that we have been unable to obtain anything. 22 Feb. 1534.
Fr. Headed: Lettre de Raince a Mons. de Montmorency.
22 Feb. 220. William Paget to Cromwell.
R. O. S. P. vii. 541. There is no news worth writing, but I write as you desired at my departure that I would in anywise do, and to thank you for that kindness towards me which, though once nearly extinguished by my negligence, your mastership has of late revived, “reducing me into his favor and grace whose least displeasure towards me grieveth me more than the most cruel death.” Unfeignedly, I am more bound to you than to any other but the King; for though others have heretofore somewhat advanced me, you restored me to the King's favor.
The diet which was appointed here for the 15th is not yet begun, as the Lubecks and Hollanders, on whose account it was summoned, “make courtesy who shall come first to town.” If they make peace together, it is expected they will both make war on the king of Sweden. The bastard son (fn. 1) of the late emperor Maximilian is coming from Flanders with 42 horses of his own. At Cassel are assembled the Landgrave, the dukes of Saxony, Holstein and Mecklenburg, and the marquis of Brandenburg, to make the duke of Holstein king of Denmark; and when this diet at Hamburg is ended, the duke of Lunenburg, “with all other princes and states evangeliques,” will make a league at Cassel for maintenance of the gospel.
I leave Hamburg today, and hope to succeed in the King's affairs. I doubt no man but the king of Poland, who is much counselled by bishops. Hamburg, 22 Feb.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Treasurer of the King's jewels. Endd.
22 Feb. 221. Robert Fouler to Thos. Fouler.
R. O. Commendations to his sister. Wants a protection for Rob. Geffere, mercer, of Taunton, Somersetshire, with various aliases. Is to give my lord Deputy 40s. if he demands it, and will repay him on coming to Calais. Is satisfied that Wm. Laurence should have the place of John Clerk, carpenter, deceased, at the request of master Carpenter and Rob. Gander. London, 22 Feb.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Thomas Fouler at Calais.
23 Feb. 222. T. Wandesworth, Prior of Bodmin, to Cromwell.
R. O. On the receipt of your letters I moved my brethren, in the presence of Sir Will. Godolphin, that you requested the tithing of fishes at Padstow for one of your servants. They regretted they could not comply, as a large portion was already granted, and the rest reserved for the maintenance of the house. Though we could not reward your servant, whereby you should be more beneficial to our house, we have given him an annuity of five marks. We send you eight congers, and if anything in Cornwall can do you pleasure you may command me. Though in the days of my predecessors worshipful men of the shire and others at sessions and on commissions were entertained here, the house is now greatly oppressed with debts and daily resort. It lies “comyn trade” of the shire near the coast wherethrough ambassadors and strangers pass, and it cannot be maintained in the same honorable fashion as before, without the appropriation of the benefices in its patronage to maintain hospitality. Certain suffrages and masses are celebrated in our church for Henry VII., for which he promised to annex a benefice called Lanteglos by Morthe. Asks him to use his endeavors that the King may accomplish his father's intentions. Boman, 23 Feb.
Hol., p. 1 . Broad sheet. Add.: Of the Council.
[23 Feb.] 223. John Copuldike to the Duke of Suffolk.
R. O. On Monday, St. Matthew's even (Saint Matthias). 23 Feb., Sir Chr. Willoughby entered into the manor of Eresby with a priest and four of his servants. He immediately sent for Wm. Sandome, the elder, a man of 150l. land, dwelling within a mile, and John Hastings, parker there, and declared to them that he entered as claiming his own inheritance, and would enter the lordship of Willoughby in like wise. He is making an inventory of the lord Willoughby's goods there, saying he was informed by Dr. Alen that my lady Willoughby would not occupy as lord Willoughby's executrix. He therefore occupied as next heir to his brother. Also there is provision made this Lent at Eresby where my lady, his wife, is expected on Thursday to keep household. I hear master Willoughby's title is by covenants of marriage made between lord Willoughby and master Tailboys, for the marriage of the said Sir Christopher, when lord Willoughby went into Spain.
P. 1. In the margin. Copy. Add.
224. Sir Christopher Wylloughby.
R. O. Complaint addressed to the King of injuries done by lady Mary Salynes, second wife of the late lord Will. Willoughby, to prevent him from obtaining the inheritance of the said lord his brother.
More than 23 years ago the said lord William was seised of the manors of Fulstowbek and Arsyke and other lands in cos. Line., Norf. and Suff., of which a list is given, and as he had no heir male by Mary Hussey, his first wife, sister to the present lord John Hussey. Sir Christopher is his heir. About 4 Hen. VIII. lord William was commanded to attend the King with 700 able men for the expedition to Spain, and having then no issue of his body, he married his brother, Sir Christopher, to Eliz. daughter to Sir George Taylboys, taking for the said marriage 1,000 marks and above, and enfeoffed Thos. late duke of Norfolk and others in the foresaid lands to the value of 1,000 marks a year. He then delivered the Lincolnshire lands, of the value of 300 marks, to the use of Sir Christopher and the said lady now his wife and his heirs male. Other lands to the value of 200 marks were in use to the said lord William during his life, and the rest was to descend to Sir Chris, and his heirs male. After the decease of lord William (fn. 2) eight years ago at his manor of Parham in Suffolk, the said lady Mary Salynes was not willing to have Sir Christopher at his brother's funeral, and would not let him know of his sickness, death or will. She refused to deliver the evidences, which were in sealed chest, but caused two of her chaplains to break the seals and carry them away in carts “with all other standards and heir-looms.” She also obtained divers supersedeas to the escheators, and compelled him, for lack of the original deeds, to make manifold searches among the records in the Tower and elsewhere. She craftily procured from the lady princess Dowager (Katharine) letters to the late lord Cardinal, commanding Sir Christopher to avoid the manor of Parham and other lands, by which she entered and ransacked the house, felled the wood, killed the game, &c. She has disobeyed the decrees he has since obtained from the Chancery and Star Chamber, and has wrongfully entered Fulstowbek and Fulstow Arseke and the other lands of Sir Christopher's inheritance and his wife's jointure.
Large paper, pp. 2.
24 Feb. 225. Charles V. to his Ambassador in France.
Granvelle Papers, ii. 90. You have done well to report what you have heard touching practices against the princess of England, and what the king of France has said to you touching the king of England's rupture with the Pope and the Holy See. and his making alliance with the Lutherans, and pretending that the Queen our aunt is ill. We have heard the same from our ambassador in England, much to our grief. And you are to tell Francis that the more Henry disowns obedience to the Holy See, the more he ought to support it. As to the report spread by the king of England that the Queen our aunt is ill, you are to take an opportunity of telling him that she is in very good health of body, notwithstanding her ill treatment, and that the spreading of such a report is very suspicious,—all the more as they have put her in a very unhealthy habitation, and taken away her physician, and almost all her servants, so that the essai of viands is no longer made. You have done right to inform Cifuentes of this, though our ambassador in England has also done so.
Toledo, 24 Feb. 1533. Fr.
24 Feb. 226. The Earl of Northumberland.
See Grants in February, No. 22.
24 Feb. 227. Hackett to Cromwell.
R. O.St. P. VII. 542. Wrote last on the 18th inst., and have since received yours of the 12th. Received the 100l. which you caused to be paid to Mr. Bowyer as part of my arrears, on the 31st ult. Has also drawn 80l. from Thomas Leigh, which he begs Cromwell to repay.
The queen Regent, being still ill, has left her court at Brussels and gone to the lord of Bredrode's house there, for change of air. Her grace lately assembled a diet of the states of Brabant, and desired a sum of money, which they refused, as the Emperor promised, on their last grant, that no more should be required of them for six years, and only three have passed. Yesterday had the scouttet and lords of this town at dinner. The scouttet, in answer to my questions, gave mo the reason why he was instructed to watch what strangers came into the town. He said there was a particular charge to take certain persons of Mastricht and the parts of Lussym-bowreh who have contemned the authority of the Emperor as duke of Brabant by appealing from the chancery of Brabant and high council of Machling. The subjects of the queen Regent do not seem to be in the same obedience as in lady Margaret's time. Machlyng, 24 Feb. 1533.
Mons. de Prate is here, ready to conduct the duchess of Milan to Milan next month.
The Emperor and the cardinal of Luke are at variance about the superiority of the town of Mastricht. Mons. de Bure is gone to the Cardinal to try and settle this.
Hol., pp. 4. Add.
24 Feb. 228. Sir Wm. Kyngston to Lord Lisle.
R. O. I desire you to thank my good lady for the special token she lately sent me, “which was a tall man with a halbert; notwithstanding he had no feet to stand on, yet for her sake I shall give him entertainment.” It is Lent here, and we have many sermons. On Ash Wednesday Mr. Latimer preached before the King, and is to do so every Wednesday this Lent. For the first part he has well begun, and is very well liked. “This day ye were drunk to with the master of the Horse, (fn. 3) Mr. Weston, master Bryan, master Cheyne and Mr. Dr. Wolman.” I will shortly send to you to have your help for a good horse, for I am told they are cheap. I have sent ray lady an almspurse, and somewhat therein to relieve the poor people at her pleasure. I beg you to be good lord to my friends Bellingham and Scheperd, who are your daily servants. Remember me to Mr. Porter, (fn. 4) my lord Edmund and Mr. Marshal. (fn. 5) London, 24 Feb. Signed.
P.S.In lady Kingston's hand: “Mary Kyngston humbly makes har recomand onto my gud lord and my gud lady.”
P. 1. Add. : Deputy of Calais. Endd.
25 Feb. 229. The Emperor's Policy.
R. T. 145, No. 5, § 42. Notwithstanding the reestablishment of peace, France was interfering with all the German quarrels, and assisting with money the duke of Wurtemburg, who had been deprived of his estates, and his protector the landgrave of Hesse, against the archduke Ferdinand. Francis was also threatening to invade the duchy of Milan, to revenge the death of his ambassador, assassinated by order of Francis Sforza. The Emperor, fearing that Henry might assist his enemies, endeavored to gain him over, passing over as much as possible the divorce. The different projects discussed on this occasion are mentioned, in a minute of the Council, dated 25 Feb. 1534. The English ambassador in France proposed giving up the quarrel, as the best means of reconciliation. The fact of the Emperor's having promised protection to Katharine and the princess Mary were reasons against this proposition, lest he should discourage their partisans in England, and be suspected of approving of Henry's conduct. Necessity, on the other hand, compelled the Emperor to conciliate Henry. Besides, he can scarcely now succeed in bringing Henry to reason, and if he were to take back the Queen by force there would be greater danger than at present. The only method seems to be to separate England and France. Henry's friendship for France is only founded on the necessity he has for it to gratify his passions. The smallest advances on the part of the Emperor would cause it to cool, and the slightest suspicion created between the two kings would be an occasion for moderating the eagerness of Francis for war, and for making a treaty. The Emperor's only wish is for the wellbeing of Christendom, and the satisfaction of his aunt and cousin, preferring to expose himself to all the hazards of war rather than desert their cause.
Seeing the impossibility of the Pope's sentence being ever received in England, he would prefer an accommodation favorable to his views, conformable to his dignity, and advantageous to the Princesses and the peace of Christendom, without deferring the celebration of the Council. The English ambassador in France wished the execution of the sentence against the divorce to be suspended. The question was then raised whether the negociation for it should be carried on with that ambassador, or whether the Emperor's ambassador in London should receive a commission, or whether the English ambassador at Madrid should be dealt with. The duration of the suspension was then to be decided, whether it should be for Henry's life, till a future Council, or for any other term. In any case, Henry must promise formally that the Princesses should be treated suitably to their rank, and should not be forced to do anything contrary to their own interests, that princess Mary should not be married without the consent of the Emperor and the Queen, and that no assistance should be given to anyone against the Emperor, the king of the Romans, his brother, or their kingdoms. As to the suspension until a council, in that case Henry would probably put off the Council to avoid a decision. If until Henry's death, the Queen would probably not consent, and it would be difficult to establish the rights of the Princess to the throne. As to the Queen, she had better be well treated away from the King than badly treated with him. To embarrass Henry in his own kingdom, and to execute what the Emperor wrote to the Irish chiefs, the person who is sent there must remain all next March, and it must be done before his majesty's departure from Madrid.
Pp. 6. From a French catalogue of papers at Brussels now lost.
25 Feb. 230. Dr. Ortiz to Charles V.
Add. MS. 28,586, f. 142. B. M. On Friday, the 27 Feb., the Queen's case will be proposed in the Consistory by the auditor Simoneta, who has worked hard at it. The advocate, proctor and I have informed the cardinals, all of whom I hope will be in our favor. I gave them the information in writing very briefly, with the addition of [the opinions] of many more doctors than I gave last year. A copy is enclosed. Money must be sent, especially as the Queen can send none.
A Scot named master David told me that when the duke of Albany was here he told him that the French king favored the king of England so far as to put him in a position from which he could not retreat (hasta ponelle en un termino donde no pudiese salir), and certainly his friendship has been very pernicious. The King now visits the daughter of his concubine, but will not see the Princess, though she is in the same house deprived of her rank. Rome, 25 Feb. 1534.
Sp., pp. 3. Modern copy.
25 Feb. 231. The Cinque Ports.
R. O. Petition of Robt. Rocquelin and Henry Janson, factors of Robt. Du Mouchel, sen., and François Benoist, showing that on Sunday, 22nd Feb. 1533, a ship called “La barge de Croisset,” Oliver Thuboye dict Chouart master, was wrecked near the Camber. 1. She was of 100 or 120 tons burden, and was laden with corn, Rouen cloth, &c., belonging to Mouchel and Benoist. 2. On Monday, the 23rd, the crew went to recover some of the cargo, but were prevented by Englishmen, who killed one and wounded others. 3. On Thursday, the 25th (sic) Rocquelin, with two English and two Frenchmen, asked the bailiff of Lydd to return the goods, most of which he had in his house, but he replied that they were for the lord Warden, who would answer for what was done. 4. Rocquelin then went to the bailiff of Winchelsea, who has part of the goods. He likewise replied that he was the lord Warden's servant, and had acted for him. Rocquelin then went to Rye and asked persons who had his goods to return them, but they refused. 5. They beg the King to order the lord Warden to restore the merchandise on their paying a reasonable sum for salvage.
Fr., pp. 2. Endd.


  • 1. George bishop of Brixen.
  • 2. William lord Willoughby died in 1525.
  • 3. Sir Nic. Carew.
  • 4. Sir Christopher Garneys, knight porter of Calais.
  • 5. Sir Edw. Ryngeley, marshal of Calais.