House of Lords Journal Volume 10: 29 July 1648

DIE Saturni, 29 die Julii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Salwey.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Morris to have a Place in the Wine Licence Office.

Upon Information to this House, "That Mr. Laurance Sweetenham, who had an Office in the Office of Wine Licence, is lately dead, whereby the said Office is void:"

It is Ordered, That Henry Morris be recommended to that Place; and that the Concurrence of the House of Commons be desired herein.

Morris, alias Poyntz, &c. Pet. to be released.

Upon reading the Petition of John Morris, alias Poyntz, &c.

It is Ordered, To be referred to all the Judges, to consider how the Petitioners may be released from their Imprisonment, without Prejudice to any Parties, in regard of the Fines imposed by Judgement of this House; and report the same to this House.

L. Colraine and Ly. Delawar.

Upon reading the Petition of the Lady La Warr, in Answer to the Petition of the Lord Colerayne:

It is Ordered, That Counsel on both Sides shall be heard, on Tuesday Morning next, touching the Matter of Privilege.

Message from the H. C. with a Vote about a Treaty;—and for the E. of Cleveland to be exchanged for Sir W. Massam.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Samuell Browne, concerning these Particulars:

1. That they considering of some Expedient how to reconcile the Difference between the Two Houses, touching the Personal Treaty, they have, in order thereunto, made a Vote, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to, upon the Question.

2. They desire that the Earl of Cleaveland may be exchanged for Sir Will. Massam; and that it be left unto the General, to do what he shall think expedient in order thereunto; wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House agrees to both these Particulars now brought up.

Message to the H. C. for Committees to meet about a Treaty;—with Montreul's Pass;—and for Morris to have a Place.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Bennett and Mr. Eltonheade; videlicet,

That the Committee for Peace may meet on Monday next, in the Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, to consider of all the Circumstances necessary for the safe and speedy carrying on of this Treaty with the King; in particular, that the King may be with Honour, Freedom, and Safety, in such Place in the Isle of Wight as His Majesty shall make Choice of; and also concerning the Time when the said Treaty shall begin.

2. To desire their Concurrence in the Pass for Monsieur Montreul.

3. To desire Concurrence, that Henry Morris may have the Place of Mr. Laurance Swetenham, in the Office of Wine Licences.

Ordinance to rectify Abuses in Coats of Arms.

An Ordinance was brought in, for rectifying Abuses in Coats of Arms; which, being read, was committed to these Lords following:

Any Five; to meet on Wednesday Morning next, at Nine a Clock, in the Prince's Lodgings; and to adjourn from Time to Time.

Ordinance for Lloyd to be Rector of Llanbenlan.

An Ordinance was brought in, for making Mr. Evan Lloyd Rector of Lanbenlan, in the County of Anglesey; and being read, was Agreed to, and ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

Petition from the Common Council.

A Petition was presented to this House, by Mr. Alderman Byde, in the Name of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council, of the City of London: Which was received, and read publicly.

Then the Persons that delivered it withdrew.

And the House commanded the same to be read again, as followeth. (Here enter it.)

And upon Consideration;

The Question being put, "Whether to have a Conference presently with the House of Commons, touching those Votes formerly sent down, for the annulling those Powers given to Major General Skippon, for listing of Forces?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That the Speaker do draw up the Matter of this Conference, and present the same to the House.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about annulling the Votes for Gen. Skippon to to raise Forces.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Justice Rolls and Mr. Serjeant Finch:

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching the Matter of some Votes formerly sent down, for re-calling the Powers given to Major General Skippon, for the listing of Forces.

Answer to the Common Council.

The Persons that brought the Petition were called in again; and the Speaker, in the Name of the House, returned them this Answer as followeth:

"The Lords gratefully receive the Acknowledgements which you have made to them, in the Name of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City; and have commanded me to assure you, that their Care shall never be wanting, to improve all Means for the preventing of those Inconveniencies that may threaten either Danger or Disquiet to the City of London, in this Particular mentioned in your Petition. They have already recalled that Power given to Major General Skippon. They will pursue a further and as effectual a Means as they can, for the perfecting of what is desired by you, that the Confidence the City of London hath expressed of them may be confirmed, and that the City may be still encouraged and enabled to intend the Security of the Parliament, according to their Engagements."

Heads for the Conference about annulling the Votes for Gen. Skippon to raise Forces.

"The Matter of the present Conference is this: That it may greatly increase Jealousy and Animosities, which are destructive to all Civil Societies, if such distinct Powers shall be exercised in this City.

"That, considering the free and full Expressions which were not long since made to the City by both Houses, of their resting upon them for their Security and Defence; and likewise the Readiness and Faithfulness that the City shewed, in Observance of the Parliament's Commands, upon the late tumultuous Rising in Kent, and the happy Success that followed thereupon; this new Power granted to Major General Skippon may give them Occasion to believe that the Parliament's Confidence in them is lessened, and their Favours towards them are withdrawn, both in respect of their Fidelity, and of their late Engagements for the Safety of the Parliament, (fn. 1) which ought in this Conjuncture of Time to be avoided. The dangerous and destructive Consequence that it may be of to the whole Kingdom, as well as to the Parliament, if such Disorders should break out in this City, as are apprehended by the Chief Magistrates thereof."

Ordinance to raise Forces in Sussex.

Next, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to consider of the Ordinance for raising Monies, for a Troop of Horse and Dragoons, for suppressing of Insurrections in the County of Sussex.

And the House being resumed;

The said Ordinance was read the Third Time.

Rejected.

And the Question being put, "Whether to agree to this Ordinance?"

It (fn. 2) was Resolved in the Negative.

Ordered, That the Conference be desired with the House of Commons, on Monday Morning, at Eleven of the Clock.

Revoked again.

Ellis's Ordinance to be Rector of St. Albans.

The Ordinance for Mr. Ellis to be Minister of St. Albans, was reported, as fit to pass, with an Alteration; which being read, and likewise the said Ordinance with the Alteration, it was Agreed to.

Graves's Pet.

Upon reading the Petition of Mary Graves:

It is Ordered, That when a Certificate be brought in, it be recommended to the House of Commons.

Officers of the Shipwrights Comp. Pet.

Upon reading the Petition of Edward Kelinge Clerk to the Company of Shipwrights, Rob't Dearrant their late Beadle, and Wm. Beadle their present Officer:

It is Ordered, To be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to consider of the Petition; and certify to this House what Course is fit to be taken for Relief of the Petitioners.

Dr. Crodop, a Pass to the E. of Holland.

Ordered, That George Crodop, a Physician, shall be permitted to pass, with his Man and Two Horses, from the City of London, to the Earl of Holland, in Warwicke Castle, and back again.

Answers from the H. C.

Mr. Justice Roll and Mr. Serjeant Finch return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Doctor Bennett and Mr. Eltonhead return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree to the Meeting of the Committee on Monday, and to the Ordinance concerning the employing the King and Queen's Revenue in Yorkeshire for Maintenance of the Forces there: (Here enter it.) And to the Petition of Margerett Robertes and Jane Smyth: To all the rest, they will send, &c.

Newton & al. Pet. for Money due for apprehending Priests.

Upon reading the Petition of Francis Newton, James Wadsworth, Tho. Mayo, and Rob't de Luke, Messengers, for (fn. 3) apprehending of Priests and Jesuits; shewing, That there is Two Thousand and Fifty Pounds due to them, for Service in apprehending of Jesuits and Priests:"

It is Ordered, To be recommended to the House of Commons.

Committee to consider of condemned Priests who have been reprieved.

Upon Information, "That divers Priests condemned by the Law have been reprieved:"

It is Ordered, That these Lords following shall call before them Francis Newton, James Wadsworth, Tho. Mayo, &c. to inform their Lordships who those Priests and Jesuits are, and by (fn. 2) what Authority they have been reprieved, and report the same to this House:

Any Three; to meet on Wednesday next, in the Afternoon, at Three of the Clock; and to adjourn from Time to Time.

Message to the H. C. about the Conference concerning Gen. Skippon's Ordinance.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Bennett and Mr. Eltonheade:

To desire that the Conference may be on Monday next, at Twelve a Clock, in regard it is now late.

Order for a Treaty with King, in the Isle of Wight.

Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That a Treaty be had, in the Isle of Wight, with the King in Person, by a Committee appointed by both Houses, upon all the Propositions presented to Him at Hampton Court, and for the taking away of Wards and Liveries, for settling a safe and well-grounded Peace."

Ordinance for the Yorkshire Forces to have the King's and Queen's Revenues there.

"It is Ordered and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Rents and Revenue due or payable to the King, Queen, or Prince, respectively, and arising within the several Counties of Yorke, Nottingham, Durham, Northumberland, Cumberland, Westmerland, and Lancaster, the City and County of the City of Yorke, the Town and County of the Town of Nottingham, the Town and County of the Town of Kingston upon Hull, and the Town and County of the Town of Newcastle upon Tyne, within these Two Years now last past, and not yet collected, but remaining in the Hands of the Tenants or Farmers, or, being collected, do yet remain in the Hands of the several Sheriffs, Receivers, or other Collectors of the same, and not paid into the Receipt of the Exchequer or Dutchy respectively, be forthwith collected, and paid, upon Accompt, for and towards the present Supply of the Officers and Soldiers now under the Command of Major General Lambert, in the North; the same to be paid to Thomas Rookby Esquire, his Assignee or Assigns; and all Sheriffs, Receivers, Collectors, and other Persons; now having Authority to collect, levy, and receive the said Rents and Revenue, are required to use their utmost Endeavours for the speedy collecting and bringing in of the same; and all Justices of Peace, Committees, and other Persons whom it may concern, are also required to give their best Aid and Assistance therein: And the said respective Collectors, and other Persons who have received any of the said Rents and Revenues, and have not paid in the same to the respective Sheriffs and Receivers General respectively, are hereby required forthwith to pay the same unto the said respective Sheriffs and Receivers General respectively, which said respective Sheriffs and Receivers General respectively are hereby ordered and required to pay the same, as also all other Sums growing due within the Times aforesaid, which they have in their Hands not yet paid, into the Receipts of the Exchequer or Dutchy respectively, to the said Thomas Rookby, his Assignee or Assigns; and the Acquittance of the said Thomas Rookeby, his Assignee or Assigns, shall be, by virtue of this Ordinance, a sufficient Discharge for all and every such several and respective Sheriffs, Receivers, and Collectors, as so shall pay any of the said Monies unto him, and shall be allowed upon their Accompts respectively, for so much as they shall severally pay unto him the said Thomas Rookby, his Assignee or Assigns, by virtue of this Ordinance; and the Committee of the Revenue, Barons of the Exchequer, Auditors, and other Officers respectively, are to allow thereof accordingly: Provided always, That this Ordinance, nor any Thing therein contained, shall not extend to hinder the Payment of the Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, formerly advanced by John Bland Esquire, for Public Service, and allowed, by Ordinance dated the 2d Day of June last, to be re-paid unto him out of the Revenue arising within the County of Yorke, nor to ordinary Fees, or other Disbursements, due unto the respective Receivers, Auditors, or other Officers belonging to those Receipts; nor unto the Yearly Rents and Pensions, or Arrearages thereof, issuing out of those Receipts, as they have been or shall be ordered to be paid by the Committee of the Revenue."

Ordinance for Overed to be Minister of Toppesfield.

"Whereas the Rectory and Church of Toppesfeild, in the County of Essex, is now void, by Death of Doctor Lawrence Burnell, being above Value, and immediately in His Majesty's Gift, and now at the Dispose of both Houses of Parliament: The Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, taking Notice thereof, and to the End the said Rectory and Church of Toppesfeild may be supplied with an able, orthodox, and godly Minister, have ordered, ordained, and appointed, and do hereby order, ordain, and appoint, John Overed Clerk, an able, godly, orthodox Minister, to be Rector of the said Toppesfeild; and that he shall and may hold, possess, and enjoy, the said Church and Rectory, the Parsonage-house, with all the Rights, Members, Stipends, Duties, Glebes, Tithes, Houses, Profits, Commodities, and Appurtenances whatsoever belonging, in as large and ample a Manner as the said Doctor Lawrence Burnell, or any other Rector thereof, lawfully or of Right had or ought to have had the same; provided, that the said John (fn. 4) Evered shall pay all such Tenths, First Fruits, and other Duties, as ought to be paid, for or in regard of his Incumbency there: Saving to all other Persons, Bodies Politic and Corporate, all such Rights and Titles as they or any of them have unto the Rectory of Toppesfeild, except such Persons as are sequestered or sequestrable by the Ordinance of Parliament for the sequestering of Papists and Delinquents Estates.

"And the Commissioners of the Great Seal are hereby authorized to pass the Grant hereof, under the Great Seal of England, unto the said John Overed accordingly."

Petition from the Common Council, pressing for Gen. Skippon's Ordinance for enlisting Men to be repealed.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords in Parliament assembled.

"The humble Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, of the City of London, in Common Council assembled;

"Sheweth,

"That last Night, your Petitioners sitting in Common Council, there was, by divers grave and wellaffected Citizens, presented unto them a Petition, subscribed by a great Number of Hands, wherein was represented the sad and dangerous Condition of the Parliament and City, whereof this Court is also very sensible, by reason of the Power, by Ordinance of the 12th Instant, granted to Major General Skippon, to list Horse and Foot, still made Use of to put the Power of the Sword into the Hands of Servants and Sectaries; which, by many Testimonies of very credible Witnesses, hath been clearly proved.

"All which, your Petitioners do conceive, will endanger the Safety and Peace of Parliament and City; is contrary to the ancient laudable Customs and Usages of the same; inconsistent with the Power by Ordinance granted to the Militia of London, and is feared will (if not speedily prevented) put this City into a sudden Distemper.

"In Consideration whereof, and in Discharge of their Trust, your Petitioners are again necessitated to be humble Suitors to this Honourable House; and do pray, the said Ordinance granted unto Major General Skippon may be repealed, and the Forces raised by Authority thereof discharged; that there may be no listing nor raising of Forces, in this City or Liberties thereof, but by the Power of the Militia settled by Ordinance of Parliament, that the Petitioners may be the better enabled and encouraged to defend the Parliament, unto whom (notwithstanding the many false and scandalous Aspersions of Disaffection and Malignancy cast upon them) they are resolved with Lives and Fortunes faithfully and constantly to adhere, according to their solemn League and Covenant.

"And shall pray, &c.

"Michell."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 12^a Monday Morning next.