House of Lords Journal Volume 14: 8 May 1689

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 14, 1685-1691. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 14: 8 May 1689', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 14, 1685-1691, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 204-205. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol14/pp204-205 [accessed 26 March 2024]

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DIE Mercurii, 8 die Maii.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Arch. Yorke.
Epus. London.
Epus. St. Asaph.
Epus. Sarum.
Dux Cumberland.
Marq. de Halyfax, C. P. S.
D. Grafton.
D. Ormond.
D. Beaufort.
D. Northumb'l'd.
L. Great Chamberlain.
L. Steward.
L. Chamberlain.
Comes Oxon.
Comes Kent.
Comes Derby.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Bristoll.
Comes Clare.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Winchelsea.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Chesterfeild.
Comes Scarsdale.
Comes Bath.
Comes Craven.
Comes Aylisbury.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Feversham.
Comes Macclesfeild.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Berkeley.
Comes Rochester.
Comes Abingdon.
Comes Portland.
Comes Fauconberge.
Comes Monmouth.
Vicecomes Newport.
Vicecomes Sidney.
Vicecomes Lumley.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Morley.
Ds. Eure.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard Ess.
Ds. Chandos.
Ds. Brooke.
Ds. Grey War.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Coventry.
Ds. Herbert.
Ds. Jermyn.
Ds. Biron.
Ds. Vaughan.
Ds. Ward.
Ds. Colpeper.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Lexington.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Delamer.
Ds. Crew.
Ds. Ossulston.
Ds. Dartmouth.
Ds. Godolphin.
Ds. Cholmondley.

PRAYERS.

Marq. de Halyfax Speaker pro Tempore.

Bill to amend the one for removing Papists.

The Earl of Rochester reported, "That the Committee have considered the Bill for rectifying the Mistake in the Bill for amoving Papists out of the Cities of London and Westm.; and the Opinion of the Committee is, That the said Bill do pass as it is."

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, "An Act for rectifying the Mistake in the Bill for amoving Papists out of the Cities of London and Westminster."

The Question being put, "Whether this Bill shall pass for a Law?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Message from H. C. that they agree to the Simoniacal Promotion Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Joseph Tredenham and others:

To acquaint their Lordships, that the Commons do agree to the Proviso which this House made in the Bill that the Simoniacal Promotion of one Person may not prejudice another.

Message to H.C. with the Bill to amend the one for removing Papists.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Keck and Mr. Merredith:

To acquaint them, that this House agrees to the Act for rectifying a Mistake in the Bill for amoving Papists out of the Cities of London and Westminster.

Additional Poll Bill.

Hodie 1a & 2a vice lecta est Billa, an Act, intituled, "An additional Act for raising Money, by a Poll and otherwise, towards the reducing of Ireland."

ORDERED, That this Bill is committed to these Lords following:

Duke of Ormond.
Duke of Beaufort.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Winchilsea.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Bath.
Comes Craven.
Comes Sussex.
Comes Maclesfeld.
Comes Rochester.
Vicecomes Lumley.
Vicecomes Sydney.
Epus. London.
Epus. Sarum.
Ds. Grey de Wark.
Ds. Lovelace.
Ds. Jermyn.
Ds. Ward.
Ds. Colepeper.
Ds. Lucas.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Delamer.
Ds. Crewe.
Ds. Ossulston.
Ds. Godolphin.

Their Lordships, or any Three of them; to meet To-morrow Morning, at Nine of the Clock, in the Prince's Lodgings.

Message from H.C. with Commissioners of Great Seal Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir William Poultney and others:

Who brought up the Bill concerning the Commissioners of the Great Seal; wherein the Commons have made some Amendments, to which they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

Message from thence, for a Conference on the Bill for convicting and disarming Papists.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Hobart and others:

To desire a Conference, concerning the Bill for the more speedy and effectual convicting and disarming of Papists.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will give a Conference, as is desired; and appoints the same to be presently, in the Painted Chamber.

These Lords were appointed to report this Conference:

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D. of Bolton.
L. Steward.
Comes Huntingdon.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Craven.
Comes Fauconberg.
Arch. Yorke.
Epus. London.
Epus. St. Asaph.
Ds. Grey de Wark.
Ds. Cornwallis.

Message from H. C. with the Bill to reverse Sidney's Attainder.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Guys and others:

Who was commanded to return the Bill for annulling and making void the Attainder of Algernoone Sydney Esquire; in which the Commons have made some small Amendments, and desire their Lordships Concurrence to them.

The Amendments were read, and Agreed to.

The Commons being ready, the Lords went to the Conference.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The Conference being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference on the Bill for convicting and disarming Papists.

The Lord Steward reported the Effect of the Conference; which was, "That the Commons do agree to all their Lordships Amendments made in the Bill for the more speedy and effectual convicting and disarming of Papists, excepting that Amendment concerning the Horses; to which they do not agree, for these Reasons:

"1. His Majesty will have no present Benefit by the Seizure of Horses of the Price of Five Pounds or upwards, as was principally intended.

"2. All such Horses will be left in Papists or reputed Papists Hands till the following Sessions, to the apparent Danger of the Government.

"3. No Person will be willing to be at the Expence of keeping such Horses until the next Sessions (except the Owners), since no Power is granted by this Act to reimburse the Charges."

The House, upon Consideration, agreed with the Desire of the House of Commons, to leave out the Amendments in the Clause concerning Horses.

Message to H.C. that the Lords agree to it, and to the Amendments in the Bill for reversing Sidney's Attainder.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Miles Cooke and Mr. Merydith:

To let them know, that this House agrees in their Amendments in the Bill for annulling and making void the Attainder of Algernon Sydney.

2. To let them know, that this House agrees to leave out the Amendment in the Clause concerning Horses, in the Bill for the more speedy and effectual convicting and disarming Papists.

Harvey versus L. Holles.

The House heard the Cause between Mr. Harvey and the Lord Holles, by Counsel on both Sides; and ORDERED, To take the same into Consideration To-morrow Morning, and give Judgement therein.

Sir J. Bradshaw versus Northend.

Upon reading the Petition of Christopher Northend, of Beverley, in the County of Yorke, Gentleman, Defendant, to the Petition and Appeal of Sir James Bradshawe Knight; praying a Day for hearing the said Cause depending in this House:

It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That this House will hear the said Cause, by Counsel on both Sides, on Monday the 13th of May Instant, at Ten of the Clock in the Forenoon.

Adjourn.

Marquis de Halyfax, Orator Procerum pro Tempore, declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque in diem Jovis, videlicet, 9um diem instantis Maii, hora decima Aurora, Dominis sic decernentibus.