House of Lords Journal Volume 2: 30 October 1610

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 2, 1578-1614. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

'House of Lords Journal Volume 2: 30 October 1610', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 2, 1578-1614, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 672-673. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol2/pp672-673 [accessed 24 April 2024]

DIE Martis, videlicet, 30 die Octobris:



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THIS Day, The House was informed by the Lord Chancellor, That Robert Bowyer, Clerk of the Parliament, had lately received from the Under Clerk attending the Commons a Letter, dated the 27th of this Instant October, to the Effect following: videlicet,

"Sir,

Letter from the Under Clerk of the Commons to the Clerk of the Parliament, requiring a Copy of the King's Answer to the Grievances.

"I am, by Order of the Commons House of Parliament, directed to repair unto you, and to desire of you the true Copy of His Majesty's Answers to the Grievances of the Subject presented the last Session of Parliament; as well the Answers to the First Four, concerning Matter of Profit, as the rest concerning Matter of Government, answered the last Day. The Order is, That you are to subscribe your Hand unto it, and to make it ready before Monday Morning next; at which Time there will be special Occasion of Use for it. And so I rest,

27 Octob. 1610.

"Your very assured,

"Ra. Ewens."

Communicated to the House

Lords disapprove of it, as contrary to Form.

Also that the said Clerk, in respect of his Duty to this House, hath forborn to satisfy the Contents of those Letters, until he might understand their Lordships Pleasure and Direction in that Behalf; and hath, in the mean Time, returned Answer, that of himself he hath no Power or Authority to make forth or deliver Copies of that Nature; but that, at the next Sitting of the Lords, he would acquaint their Lordships with the said Letters, and thereupon be ready to do what to him should appertain; which Answer their Lordships approved; and, having taken Consideration of the Premises, thought fit and reasonable, that the Copy desired (because the Matter and Substance thereof equally concerneth both Houses, and was originally intended by His Majesty to be imparted to all His loving Subjects without Distinction) should therefore be sent authentically unto the Lower House. And their Lordships, not allowing this Manner of Demand, which should have been by Motion to their Lordships themselves, and not by Letter from an Under Clerk unto the Clerk of this House, nor by any such Order or Direction as aforesaid; notwithstanding, in their Wisdoms, thought not convenient that, for this Cause, the weighty Business of the great Contract with His Majesty, for which this Session of Parliament is chiefly held, being now in Treaty, should any way be in Danger to suffer Delay, Impediment, or Interruption; it was therefore generally Agreed by all the Lords, and accordingly Ordered, That the Clerk of this House shall, by Warrant of the House, send unto the said Clerk attending the Commons the desired Copy, under his Hand, with a second Letter, to the Effect following: videlicet,

Clerk of the Parliament's Answer, with the King's Answer to the Grievances.

"Mr. Ewens,

Upon Receipt of your Letters, I have, this Instant 30th of October, acquainted my Lords of the Higher House of Parliament therewithall; whereupon their Lordships are well pleased and content that I shall send unto you, under my Hand, that which is desired; which herewithall you shall receive accordingly. And so I rest

"Your assured loving Friend,

30th October, 1610.

"Ro. Bowyer."

And it is further Ordered, That the whole Matter aforesaid shall be entered in the Journal Book, with this essential Caution and Provision, That this Particular be not at any Time drawn or used as a Precedent; but that, in all Cases of like Nature hereafter happening, due Course be observed, as to the Honour, Dignity, and Privilege of this House shall appertain.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius continuavit præsens Parliamentum usque in diem Lunæ, videlicet, 5^m diem Novembris inter horam 9^m et 10^m.