House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 6 January 1643

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Veneris, videlicet, 6 die Januarii.


Earl of Manchester appointed to be Speaker this Day.

Sir J. Conyers's Petition, for demolishing a Building near The Tower, which is prejudicial to it.

A Petition of Sir Jo. Conyers, Lieutenant of The Tower of London, was read, concerning a new Building newly erected near The Tower, to the great Prejudice of The Tower; desiring the molishing of the said Building, for the Safety of The Tower. (Here enter it.)

Ordered, That the former Proceedings and Certificate in this Cause shall be looked out, and then this House will further consider of the Business.

Leach and Coles sent for, for printing a scandalous Pamphlet.

Ordered, That the Consideration of a printed scandalous Pamphlet is referred to the Consideration of the Committee for Printing, who are to meet this Afternoon; and Leach and Francis Coles shall be sent for, to attend at the same Time.

London Citizens Petition, about Violence offered them in prosecuting their late Petition.

Upon reading a Petition of divers Citizens and Inhabitants of the City of London, desiring "To be heard at the Committee, touching the outrageous Violence and Injuries offered to them, in the Preparation and Prosecution of their former Petition presented to this House."

And because this House was informed, "That the Lord Mayor and the Aldermen do proceed against the Petitioners and others, concerning this Business, in a due Course of Law:" It is Ordered, To be left to the Proceedings at Law; and if they have any just Cause of Complaint of Injustice, this House will receive their just Complaints.

Fitchett's Petition, for Money due by the Treasury to him.

The Petition of Fitchett, &c. was read; and the Certificate of Sir Rob't Pye; shewing, "That the Commissioners of the Treasury the last Summer signed an Order for Payment of Three Hundred Pounds to the Cofferer of the House, for the Use of the Petitioners, whereof there is only paid the Sum of One Hundred Pounds, as by them is alledged; but, by reason of the Alteration of the Commission of the Treasury, the said Order and divers others are become void for any further Payment to be made thereby, except the same be renewed by the Commissioners of the Treasury now being; wherewith I thought it my Duty to acquaint this House.

"Your Lordships most humble Servant,

3 Januarii, 1642.

"Rob't Pye."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That Sir Rob't Pye shall prepare a new Warrant, and get it signed by the Commissioners for the Treasury, that so the Petitioners may receive their Money.

Order to revoke the One made for seizing Horses.

Next, the Lords Committees withdrew, to consider of a Draught concerning the Taking and Seizing of Horses, that so the Orders made to Barde and Browne may be revoked, and to report the same to this House; and, being approved of, to communicate the same to the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Dr. Bennet and

To desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching the Orders made to Mr. Bard and Mr. Browne, for the Taking and Seizing of Horses for the Army.

The Earl of Holland reported the Draught of an Order concerning the Taking up of Horses for the Service of the Army, which was read, in hæc verba:

Order to amend the One made for seizing Horses for the Use of the Army.

"The Lords in Parliament assembled, finding great Inconveniency in the Execution of that Order, dated the 15th of Nov. last, for the Taking of Horses, sometimes there having been seized such as belongs to Peers, and other well-affected Persons to the Parment and Kingdom; their Lordships and have thought it fit to revoke that said Order; and do hereby Order, That from henceforward no Horses, Mares, or Geldings, may be seized upon, but such as shall be appointed by Warrant from the Committee for the Safety of the Kingdom, or by the Lord General; and the Names of such Persons whose Horses are to be seized may be expressed in the said Warrants; and that all former Orders for the Taking of Horses are hereby revoked and made void; and that this Order shall be printed and published forthwith."

Ordered, That this House approves of this Order, and that it be communicated to the House of Commons at the Conference.

The Messengers return this Answer:

Answer from the H. C.

That the House of Commons will give a Meeting presently, as is desired.

Message from thence, with the Bill for a Synod;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Will. Strode, which was of these Particulars following:

1. He brought up a Bill for calling an Assembly.

with Deputy Lieutenants Names for Norfolk;

2. To desire their Lordships Approbation in nominating these Persons following to be Deputy Lieutenants for the County of (fn. 1) Norfolke and City of Norwich.

and with a Declaration for a further Subscription.

3. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in a Declaration of the Necessity of a further Subscription, for the Supply of the Army; and, if this House concurs with them, then they desire that a Committee of both Houses may be appointed, to communicate the same to the City of London, at a Common Hall.

Ordered, To be taken into Consideration the First Business To-morrow Morning.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House approves of the Persons now brought, to be Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Norff. and City of Norwich; and touching the Declaration now brought up, this House will take it into Consideration, and return an Answer by Messengers of their own.

The House of Commons being come, this House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, this House was resumed.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Rigby:

Message from thence, with a Declaration against the Chester Association.

To let their Lordships know, That they being informed that the County of Chester hath made an Association amongst themselves, (fn. 2) the House of Commons have made a Declaration against it, wherein they desired their Lordships Concurrence.

Ordered, To be read To-morrow.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will take the Declaration into Consideration, and will return an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Sir J. Conyers's Petition, to have a Building near The Tower demolished, which is detrimental to it.

"To the Right Honourable the Peers assembled in Parliament.

"The humble Petition of Sir John Conyers, Lieutenant of The Tower,


"That he presented a Petition to your Lordships long since, against William Felgaett, for erecting a new Building on the most eminent Place upon Tower Hill, partly upon the King's Soil, but for the extreme Annoyance of His Majesty's Castle-Royal The Tower, as more amply is expressed in that Petition; and although the said Felgaett well knoweth that, by reason of your Lordships very great Affairs, the Business is still depending before your Lordships, yet he, in Contempt thereof, hath not only finished the said Building to Perfection, but hath now lett it in Lease to a Tradesman for One and Twenty Years, as he says, who now is in Possession of it; but him your Petitioner hath (fn. 3) apprehended in The Tower; but the said Felgate he cannot get, notwithstanding many Warrants sent out by your Petitioner to that Purpose.

"His most humble Suit is, that, in regard of the said Felgaete's Presumption, encroaching upon the King's Royalty, for his Contempt to your Lordships, and for the many and very great Abuses done by him and his Servants at several Times to your Petitioner, His Majesty's Officer there, your Lordships will be pleased to punish the said Felgate, and to cause the said Building to be demolished, at least so low that it may not annoy the King's House.

"And your Petitioner shall ever pray.

"John Connyers."

Deputy Lieutenants for the City of Norwich and Norfolk.

The Names of such Gentlemen as the House of Commons desires the Lords to join with them in Approbation, to be appointed Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Norffolke and City of Norwich, and to be added to those already appointed:

Sir Richard Barney Barney, Baronet.
Sir Isaack Astley, Knight and Baronet.
Sir Thomas Hogan, Knight.
Sir Ralph Hare.
Sir Thomas Guybon, Knight.
Sir Edw'd Astley, Knight.
John Coke, Esquire.
Thomas Wyndham, Esquire.
Robert Bacon, Esquire.
James Calthrop, Esquire.
Charles Suckling, Esquire.
Rob't Rich, Esquire.
Rob't Wood, Esquire.
Gregory Gansale, Esquire.
Francis Jermy, Esquire.

To be added for the City of Norwich.

Sir Jo. Hobart, Knight and Baronet.
Samuell Smith.
Sir Tho. Woodhouse, Knight and Baronet.
Sir John Holland, Knight.
Sir John Potts, Knight and Baronet.
Sir Edmund Mundford, Knight.


House adjourned, 10a cras.


  • 1. Origin. Noffolke.
  • 2. Origin. and the.
  • 3. Origin. Apprehension.