House of Lords Journal Volume 5: 16 January 1643

Pages 557-559

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 5, 1642-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 16 die Januarii.


Earl of Manchester, Speaker this Day.

Answer from the H. C. about the Ordinance for stopping the Coal Trade to Newcastle.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons on Saturday last return with this Answer:

That they agree in printing of the Ordinance for restraining Ships from going to Newcastle for Coals; and that they will take Order to disperse the same to all the Ports.

Report of the Search of the Earl of Arundel's Chests.

Doctor Ayliff and Doctor Heath made Certificate concerning the Chests which were shipped in the Name of the Earl of Arundle. (Here enter it.)

Dutch and French Churches Complaint.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the Petition of the Dutch and French Church shall meet on Wednesday next, in the Afternoon, and hear that Cause by Witnesses on both Sides.

Lady Spencer a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Spencer shall have a Pass, to go quietly to Oxford, with Two Coaches and a Waggon.

Lord Brudenell, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lord Brudnell shall have a Pass, to go into France, with his Lady and Twelve Servants, and shall have Liberty to come to London some few Days before, to prepare himself with Necessaries for his said Journey.

Paviours Petition, who paved Old Palace Yard, for Wages due.

Upon the Petition of the Paviours and other Workmen that paved The Ould Pallace Yeard, desiring to have the Monies paid them which have been disbursed by them, amounting to Two Hundred Sixty-seven Pounds, Two Shillings, and Three Pence: It is Ordered, That the Chancellor of the Dutchy shall speak with Sir Rob't Pye, to know what Way is best to be taken for the Payment of these Monies, and report the same to this House.

Committee to consider how the Wages and Arrears due to the Judges shall be paid.

The House being moved, "That all the Judges not having any Pay almost these Two Years out of the Exchequer:" It was Ordered, That these Lords following should be appointed, to consider of some Course how the Wages and other Dues and the Arrears shall be paid them, both for the present and the future; and that the Committee shall have Power to call before them Sir Rob't Pye, to give them Information concerning this Business:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Holland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Bedford.
Comes Carlile.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
L. Viscount Say.
L. Grey.
L. Howard.

Any Three to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon in the Painted Chamber, at Two of the Clock; and the Judges that are in Town to attend.

Message to the H. C. with the Spanish Ambassador's Paper about Cochineal.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Ayliff and Doctor Heath:

To deliver unto them the Paper of the Spanish Ambassador's, concerning the Cochineal; and to recommend it unto them.

Bill against Pluralities.

Next, this House was adjourned during Pleasure into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill against Pluralities of Benefices, &c.

Then the Bill was read; and, after some Debate,

The Sense and Opinion of the Committee was, "That this Bill is fit to pass, with this Amendment in the 13th Line, in the Second Press; videlicet, instead of the Word ["August"], to be made ["April"].

The House was resumed.

Message from H. C. to sit P. M.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by (fn. 1) the Lord Dungarvan:

To desire that their Lordships would be pleased to sit this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, in regard the House of Commons shall have some (fn. 3) important Business to bring up.

Agreed, To sit at Three of the Clock this Afternoon.

for Expedition in the Instructions for raising Money in the West.

2. They desire their Lordships to give Expedition in the Instructions for raising of Money in the West.


Answer to the H. C.

That this House will sit this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, as is desired; and concerning the Instructions for Devon, this House hath passed them already.

Bill against Pluralities.

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act against the enjoying of Pluralities of Benefices by Spiritual Persons, and Non-residency.

And, it being put to the Question;

It was Resolved, To pass as a Law, with the Amendment now read.

Sent to the H. C. with an Amendment.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Doctor Benett and Doctor Heath:

To let them know, that this House hath passed the Bill against Pluralities, with the Amendment of the Word ["April"] instead of the Word ["August"], which is conceived to be Vitium Scriptoris.

White, a Singing man in Westminster Abbey, read the King's Answer to the London Petition in the Abbey.

The House being this Day informed, "That one White, a Singing-man of the Abbey of Westm. read openly in the Abbey Church, in the full Congregation, His Majesty's Answer to the Petition of the Lord Mayor and the City of London to His Majesty at Oxford:" Hereupon this House Ordered, That the said White shall be summoned to attend this House To-morrow Morning, and shew by what Warrant he read (fn. 3) that Answer in the Church.

Mr. Kynersly, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Kynersly shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, he being a Servant daily attending the Wardrobe.

Report concerning the Chests stopped at the Custom-house, said to be the Earl of Arundel's, and supposed to contain Silver.

"According to an Order from the Right Honourable the House of Peers, of the 14th of this Month, we speedily repaired to the Custom-house; and, upon due Search and Examination, do find in the Offices there, that, about a Fortnight since, Sixty Chests and Trunks, or thereabouts, were licensed to be shipped and transported for the Earl of Arundle and Surry; which Chests and Trunks, upon Search by one Frith an Officer of the Custom-house, were (as it was then informed to us) found to contain only Pictures, and other Household Stuff warrantable.

"Besides these, there were likewise, about the same Time, divers Chests and Trunks of the Venetian Ambassador transported, wherein was Plate and other Goods of the said Ambassador's, who brought Warrant (as it was likewise to us then informed) from the King's Majesty, and another from the Parliament, for the quiet Passage thereof without Search; whereupon we only left a Copy of our said Order in the Customer's Office, for the staying of any such Trunks and Chests if any were not yet shipped, until the Pleasure of this Honourable House were known, and for the present sending of some Ship or Pinnace after them, for staying the same, and bringing them back again if they were already gone, according to the said Order.

"All which we humbly certify.

"Rob't Aylett.
Tho. Heath."


House adjourned to 4a hora post meridiem.

Post meridiem.


Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Propositions to the King.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye, Knight:

To desire a Conference, touching the Propositions to be sent to His Majesty.

Answer returned was:


That this House will give a present Conference, as is desired, in the Painted Chamber.

The Messengers sent this Morning to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

Answer from the H. C. about the Bill against Pluralities.

That the House of Commons do agree with their Lordships, in the Bill against Pluralities with the Amendment.

Lady Stafford, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Stafford shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford quietly, and return again quietly.

House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference about the Propositions to be presented to the King.

And the Speaker reported, "That, at this Conference, the House of Commons brought up the Prositions to be presented to His Majesty, with some Amendments;" And it was further signified, "That the House of Commons have some few more Propositions to bring up, which are not yet ready; but they desire their Lordships to take these into Consideration in the mean Time."

The said Propositions were read.

Ordered, That these Propositions shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Scholars in Cambridge not to subscribe according to the Thirty-sixth Article.

Ordered, That the Statute made about Twentyseven Years since, in the University of Cambridge, imposing upon young Scholars a Subscription according to the Thirty-sixth Article of the Canons made in the Year 1603, shall not be enforced upon Students or Graduates in the said University; the enjoining thereof being against the Laws of this Realm, and the Liberties of the Subject.


House adjourned till 9a cras.


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