House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 6 July 1643

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 6 July 1643', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 123-124. British History Online [accessed 5 March 2024]


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DIE Jovis, 6 die Julii.


Earl of Manchester, Speaker this Day.

Message from the H. C. about the Rules for regulating the Assembly of Divines;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Wm. Armyn:

To let their Lordships know, that they do agree with their Lordships in the General Rules for the Regulating the Assembly; excepting to the Fifth, to which they do not agree.

and with a Protestation to be tendered them.

Likewise they offered to their Lordships Consideration a Protestation, to be tendered to the Assembly, wherein the House of Commons desire their Lordships Concurrence. (Here enter the Rules.)

"I A. B. do seriously and solemnly protest, in the Presence of Almighty God, That in this Assembly (wherein I am a Member) I will not maintain any Thing, in Matters of Doctrine, but what I think in my Conscience to be Truth; or in Point of Discipline, but what I shall conceive to conduce most to the Glory of God, and the Good and Peace of His Church."

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees with the House of Commons in leaving out the Fifth Rule for the Assembly; and that their Lordships do agree to the Protestation to be taken by the Members of the Assembly.

Lady Delyne, a Pass to France.

Ordered, That the Lady Delyne shall have a Pass, for (fn. 1) herself, and Two Children, a Man and a Maid, to go into France.

Hudson versus The Archdeacon of Canterbury, &c.

Ordered, Upon the Petition of Edward Hudson Clerk, That the Earls of Bedford, Holland, Rutland, and Clare, or any Two of them, shall hear the Cause between him and the Archdeacon of Cant. James Lambe his Surrogate, and Henry Jenkin, and call such Witnesses before them as their Lordships shall think fit, and make Report thereof to this House; their Lordships to meet when and where they please.

Ordered, That Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page shall hereby have Power to examine the Witnesses upon Oath, upon Interrogatories, touching Articles against Symon Paige, Parson of Heningford Abbatts, in the County of Hunt; which Examinations are to be made Use of at the Hearing of the Cause in this House.

Message from the H. C. for the E. of Manchester to be Lord Lieutenant of Northamptonshire.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Christopher Yelverton:

To let their Lordships know, that, upon the Death of the Earl of Peterborough, the Lieutenancy of the County of North'ton is void, and so consequently all the Commissions to the Deputy Lieutenants and Captains; whereupon the House of Commons have thought fit to offer to their Lordships, that the Earl of Manchester may be nominated to be Lord Lieutenant for that County.

Ordered, That this House approves of the Earl of Manchester to be Lord Lieutenant for the County of North'ton.

The Answer returned was:


That this (fn. 2) House agrees with the House of Commons, in nominating the Earl of Manchester to be Lord Lieutenant of the County of North'ton.

Lord Grey submits to the Directions of the House.

The Lord Grey of Warke acquainted this House, "That he was come to know the Commands of this House, concerning his going into Scotland; and submitted to their Lordships Commands; and desired that, as he hath received his Command in the Army by Ordinance of both Houses, so he desires that the House of Commons may be made acquainted with it; and that some Consideration may be had, how the Forces under his Command may be kept together."

Upon this, their Lordships held it fit to have a Conference with the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about him.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To desire a Conference, concerning the Lord Grey of Warke.

The Answer returned was:


That the House of Commons will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Mrs. Roper, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mrs. Roper shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, with Four Servants, a Coach, and Six Horses, and return again to London.

Justice Berkeley's Trial deferred.

Ordered, That the Trial of Mr. Justice Berkley is referred till Saturday next.

(fn. 3) "Some General Rules for the Assembly, directed by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled.

General Rules for regulating the Assembly of Divines.


"That Two Assessors be joined to the Prolocutor, to supply his Place in Case of Absence or Infirmity.


"Two Scribes to be appointed, to set down all Proceedings; and these to be Divines who are not Members of the Assembly; videlicet, Mr. Henry Rowberry, Mr. Adoniram Byfeild.

"3. Every Member, at his First Entrance into the Assembly, shall make a serious and solemn Protestation, not to maintain any Thing but what he believes to be the Truth, and to embrace Truth in Sincerity when discovered to him.


" (fn. 4) 4. No Resolution to be given upon any Question on the same Day wherein it is First propounded.


"6. What any Man undertakes to prove as necessary, he shall make good out of the Scriptures.


"7. No Man to proceed in any Dispute after the Prolocutor hath enjoined him Silence (unless the Assembly desire he may go on).

"8. No Man to be denied to enter Dissent from the Assembly, and his Reasons for it in any Point, after it hath First been debated in the Assembly; and thence (if the dissenting Party desire it) to be sent to the Houses of Parliament by the Assembly (not by any particular Man or Men, in a Private Way), when either House shall require it.

"9. All Things agreed on and prepared for the Parliament to be openly read and allowed in the Assembly, and then offered as the Judgement of the Assembly, if the major Part assent; provided that the Opinion of any Persons dissenting, and the Reasons urged for it, be annexed thereunto (if the Dissenters require it), together with the Solutions (if any were) given in the Assembly to these Reasons."


House adjourned till 10 a , Saturday.


  • 1. Origins his self.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.
  • 3. These Rules were entered before on the 29th of June.
  • 4. Origin. 5.