House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 11 July 1643

Pages 127-128

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, videlicet, 11 die Julii.


Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Washington, a Pass.

Ordered, That Washington shall have a Pass, to go to Abington, with Coach and Horses.

Mrs. Kilvert, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mrs. Kilvert shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford.

Lady Smith, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Smith, with her Servants, shall have a Pass, to go beyond the Seas.

Lawrence, a Pass.

Ordered, That John Laurance shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, about Mr. Noell's Business.

Letter from the Ld. General, desiring an immediate and constant Supply of Horses.

A Letter from the Lord General, to the Speaker of this House, was read; desiring "To have Five Hundred Horse sent him presently, to recruit his Army, and Two Hundred Horse a Month provided to recruit his Army with; and that a Magazine of Saddles and Horse Arms may be provided, for the Recruiting of his Army."

Winchingden, July 5, 1643.

Another Letter was read, dated the 9th July, 1643, from Great Brickhill.

Another Letter, about the Situation of his Army.

"My Lord,

"I would now have given you the true Relation of the Skirmish on Sunday last, between some of our Horse and the Enemies, near Buckingham; but, Sir Phillip Stapleton and Colonel Goodwin being then upon the Place, I refer the Relation thereof unto them; since when, being informed that the King had sent more Forces to Buckingham, to maintain that Place, and bring those Parts into Contribution, and give us Battle there, hereupon I advanced with the Army towards that Town, where the Enemy staid till the Army came within Two Miles of them, and then made Haste away towards Banbury, notwithstanding they had persuaded the People that they would not quit the Place till they had beat me out of the County. I then, understanding that they were fled, held it not fit to go to the Town with my Army; but sent Colonel Middleton, with some Horse, to clear that Town and Coast, which they did, and then advised where to quarter with most Conveniency to our Army, and most ready for the Enemy, the Queen's Forces being like to join with them very suddenly; and, that our Army might the better secure the Parliament, and the City of London, and the Counties adjacent, and be more safely supplied with Money from London, and lie most conveniently to join with the Forces with the Lord Grey in Northamptonshire, I did march to Great Brickhill, as the most fit Place for all Purposes: The Enemy being so strong in Horse, and this Army being neither recruited with Horses, nor Arms, nor Saddles, it is impossible to keep the Counties from being plundered, nor to fight with them, but where and when they list; we being forced, when we march, to move with the whole Army, which can be but slow Marches; so that the Countries must suffer much Wrong, and the Cries of poor People are infinite. If it were thought fit to send to His Majesty, to have Peace, with the settling of Religion, the Laws and Liberties of the Subjects, and bringing to just Trial those chief Delinquents that have brought all this Mischief to both Kingdoms; and, as my Lord of Bristoll spake in Parliament, how we may be secured to have these Things performed hereafter; or else, if His Majesty shall please to absent Himself, there may be a Day set down, to give a Period to all these unhappy Distractions by a Battle, which, when and where they shall chuse, that may be thought any Way indifferent, I shall be ready to perform that Duty I owe you; and, that it may not bring with it a Treaty, the Propositions to be agreed upon between His Majesty and the Parliament may be sent to such an indifferent Place, that both Armies may be drawn near the one to the other, that, if Peace be not concluded, it might be ended by the Sword; no Officer of the Army to be of the Committee, nor no Intercourse to be between them.

"My Lord, I am

"Your Lordship's humble Servant,

Great Brickill, 9 Julii, 1643.


Horses and Arms to be sent to the Lord General.

The House, taking the First Letter into Consideration, touching a Supply of Five Hundred Horse; Resolved, To communicate the First Letter to the House of Commons presently; and to desire that they would join with their Lordships, that all the Troops of Horses, in and about the City of London, that are raised for the Army (excepting the Troops raised for the Defence of the City), be forthwith prepared to be sent down, to recruit the Lord General's Army, as he desires; and that Friday next may be the Day, and the Committee for the Safety to see this put into speedy Execution; and that they would take a Course that the Lord General may be recruited with Horse, Arms, and Saddles, as he desires in his Letter.

Message to the H. C. about it.

A Message to this Purpose was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page.

Message from thence, for Ld. Fairfax to be Governor of Hull;

A Message was brought from the House of Comons, by Sir Wm. Strickland:

To let their Lordships know, that they having taken into their Care the Safety of the Town of Hull, and knowing the great Expressions that the Lord Fairefax hath given of his Fidelity and hearty Affections to the Cause, the House of Commons have nominated the Lord Fairefaix to be Governor of the said Town of Hull, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence.

and with an Order to pay 600 l. to Mr. Ross.

2. The House of Commons desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Order (fn. 1) to pay to Mr. Rosse Six Hundred Pounds.

"Whereas Six Hundred Pounds is paid unto the Treasurers at Guildhall, London, by Mr. Wm. Rosse, and employed for the Service of the State: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That the said Six Hundred Pounds paid into Guildhall as aforesaid shall be re-paid, upon the Public Faith, unto the said Mr. Rosse, with Interest therefor after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum."

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in this Order.

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons in the Nomination of the Lord Farefax to be Governor of Hull.

The Answer returned was:


That their Lordships do agree in the Nomination of the Lord Fairefaix to be Governor of Hull; and do likewise agree to the Order (fn. 2) to pay to Mr. Rosse Six Hundred Pounds.

No Petition to be presented to the King till Here-calls His Proclamation.

Next, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to debate and consider of the Lord General's Letter from Great Brickhill; and, after a serious Debate, "Whether the Parliament should petition the King before He hath re-called the Proclamation wherein He expresses this Parliament to be no Free Parliament?"

This House was resumed.

And this Question was put,

"Whether to offer to His Majesty Propositions, or a Petition, at this Time, notwithstanding this Proclamation?"

And it was Resolved negatively.

Message from the H. C. for Committees to meet, to draw a Declaration in Answer to it.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley Knight of the Bath:

That whereas their Lordships had appointed a Committee of Lords, to join with a Committee of the House of Commons, to meet, to draw up a Declaration in Answer to the King's Proclamation; the House of Commons desires that the Committees may be appointed to meet, with what Conveniency their Lordships please.

Ordered, That the Committee shall meet this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, in the Prince's Lodging.


The Answer was returned as abovesaid.

Justice Berkeley's Trial.

Ordered, That this House defers the Trial of Mr. Justice Berckley until Thursday next.

Sir W. San Ravy, a Pass to France.

Ordered, That Sir Wm. San Ravy shall have a Pass, to go into France, to condole the Death of the French King.

Message to the H. C. for it; and that the Lords have deferred Justice Berkley's Trial.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To let the House of Commons know, that they have deferred the Trial of Mr. Justice Berckley till Thursday next; and to desire them to concur, that Sir Wm. San Ravy may have a Pass, to go into France, to condole for the Death of the French King.

Jennings's Protection renewed.

Ordered, That Mr. Jenning's Protection shall be renewed.

Message from the H. C. about the Committees going to Scotland.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Peter Wentworth:

To desire their Lordships would please to nominate another Lord, to go into Scotland, with the Lord Grey of Warke, because it requires great Haste.

The House, taking this Message into Consideration, named the Earl of Rutland to go with the Lord Grey of Warke, into Scotland.

And this House desired the Lord Grey to prepare himself with what Expedition he could for his Journey.

The Answer returned was:


That their Lordships have nominated the Earl of Rutland to join with the Lord Grey, to go into Scotland.

Dr. Aylett, Leave to be absent.

Ordered, That Dr. Aylett hath Leave for a Month to be absent, and to go unto his House into Essex.

De Sylva, a Pass.

Ordered, That Signor Francisco De Sylva shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, and return again to London.

Answer from the H. C. about recruiting the Lord General's Army.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons with the Lord General's Letter returned with this Answer:

That the House of Commons do agree with their Lordships in their Resolutions concerning the Recruiting of the Lord General's Army, according to the Lord General's Letter.


House adjourned till 10 a cras.


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