House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 27 July 1643

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Jovis, 27 die Julii.


Earl of Manchester, Speaker.

Mr. Floyd, a Pass.

Ordered, That Mr. Floyd, the Chaplain to this House, shall have a Pass, to go to Shrenham, into Berkshire.

Serjeant Witfield's Horses to be restored.

Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild's Horses, taken away by Soldiers, shall be restored to him, upon Sight of this Warrant; and a Protection for his House; and the Parties to be sent for that took them away.

Lady Nithdall, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Nithdalle shall have a Pass, to go into Scotland, to see her Husband.

Lady Newport, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Diana Newport shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, to see her Husband, and return again to London.

Bp. of Ardagh, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Bishop of Ardah shall have a Pass, to go into Holland, with his Wife and Servant.

Sir Kenelm Digby's Releasement desired by the Queen of France.

Information being given to this House, "That the Queen of France did desire of the Parliament of England, That Sir Kenelme Digby, now in Prison here, may be permitted to come into France, about some earnest Business; and She will undertake that he shall (fn. 1) not come into England during the Troubles here, nor do any Thing there that shall be prejudicial to this Kingdom."

Ordered, To be referred to the Committee for the Safety.

A Letter was read, directed, "To our very good Lord, the Earl of Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers; and Wm. Lentball Esquire, Speaker of the House of Commons of the Parliament of England.

"Right Honourable,

E. of Loudoun's Letter to the Speakers of both Houses, about the Lords which the Scots were desired to proceed against.

"Having receaved, from the Hands of Mr. Weldon Esquire, One Letter of Credence, direct by your Lordships in Name of the Houses of Parliament, in his Favours, with another Letter, desiring that Order might be given for speedy Proceedings against the Earles of Morton, Roxburgh, Annandaill, Kinnoull, Lanericke, Carnwath, together with ane Demand given in the 20th of June, that Justice may be done upon thame; we gave Order for calling of the saides Noblemen before us; in Obedience whereof, the Earles of Morton, Roxburgh, Annandaill, and Lanericke, appeared, and gave in the inclosed Supplication, signed by thame and the Erle of Kinnoull, whose Personall Absence we excused in regard of his knowne Sicknesse: And we having tane their Supplication into Consideration, we have resolved to send the same, to be by you presented to both Houses of Parliament; and have forborne to proceede herein untill we know the further Desire of both Houses; and, as they professe thair earnest Desire for the happy setling of Differences betwixt His Majesty and His Subjects there, soe shall we in the meane Tyme be carefull that, in what may concerne that Kingdome, they shall not intermeddle, wherby ane Offence may be given to the Houses of Parliament of England. Herewith we take our Leave, and rest

"Your Lordship's Freind and Servant,
Loudoun, Canc.

Edingburgh, 7th July, 1643.

"I. P. D. Com."

Their Submission.

Next, the Submission of the Six Lords was read. (Here enter it.)

Ordered, To send this Letter and the Submission to the House of Commons.

Case from the Spanish Ambassador, about Money deposited in Grocers Hall.

Next, was read a Case of the Spanish Ambassador's, concerning a Chest of Money taken away from Grocers Hall, which Money was deposited by Consent of Maurice Thompson, and a Spanish Merchant.

Ordered, To send this Paper to the House of Commons.

Isabella Smith versus Saunderson.

Ordered, upon the Petition of Isabella Smith, the Wife of Thomas Smith Esquire, against one Rawley Sanderson, That it be referred to Mr. Judge Reeves and Judge Bacon, to examine the Matter of Fact in the Business, and report the same to this House; in the mean Time, the said Sanderson is (fn. 2) to remain in the Custody (fn. 2) he is now in, to be responsible for the Debt of Six Thousand Pounds.

Wright's Petition, who was committed by the H. C. for printing an Ordinance by Order of this House.

Upon reading the Petition of John Wright Printer to this House; shewing, "That he is still in Prison, for printing the Ordinance for the Excise by Order of this House, contrary to an Order of the House of Commons;" and upon reading the Order of the House of Commons, and the Order of his Attachment: It (fn. 2) is Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons about it, and desire them to release him, being a Breach of the Privilege of this House.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it, and with Papers.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To deliver to them the Letter of the Lord Chancellor of Scotland, and Paper of the Spanish Ambassador; and to desire a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, touching the Printer of this House, which is committed by them.

Killegrew, a Pass.

The House being informed, "That Mr. Killegrew is exchanged for another Prisoner at Oxon, and hath a Discharge from the Lord General:" It is Ordered, That Mr. Thomas Killegrew shall have a Pass, to go down to the Lord General.

Countess of Denbigh, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Countess of Denbigh shall have a Pass, to have a Bed and Suit of Hangings sent to Oxford.

Message from the H. C. with Orders, &c. for Concurrence, and for an Answer and Expedition in others.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Clattworthy Knight; which consisted of these Particulars:

1. To let their Lordships know, that they agree with their Lordships in the Ordinance concerning Surry.

(Here enter it.)

2. To desire an Answer concerning the Ordinance touching Newcastle.

3. To give Expedition in the Order for the keeping and ordering the Communicating Line about the City.

4. To present to their Lordships Consideration an Ordinance of Weekly Assessment for the Counties.

5. An Order to send Mr. Maurice Thompson, &c. into Holland, concerning Ireland.

The Answer returned was:


Their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That (fn. 3) they have delivered the Letter of the Lord Chancellor of Scotland and the Case of the Spanish Ambassador; and they will return an Answer by Messengers of their own; and that they will give a present Conference, as is desired.

Message from thence, about raising Horses;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Harley:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in a Letter to be sent into several Counties, for the raising of Horses.

and concern Declarations from Scotland.

2. To desire that they may communicate to their Lordships, at the next Conference, some Declarations which the House of Commons have received from the Kingdom of Scotland.

The Letter was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

The Answer returned was:


That their Lordships do agree to the Letter now brought up; and that their Lordships do agree to have the Declarations communicated to them at the next Conference.

Order for assocating Surrey, &c.

"Whereas the County of Surrey is in great Danger speedily to be invaded by Forces raised against Authority of Parliament, and because timely Remedy cannot be provided, if a long and tedious Debate should happen about preventing this Mischief: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Sir Anthony Vincent. Knight and Baronet, Sir Ambrose Browne Baronet, Sir John Maynard Knight of the Bath, Sir Rich'd Onslowe, Sir John Dingley, Sir Mathew Bond, Sir Robert Wood, Sir Robert Parkhurst, Knights, Nicholas Stoughton, George Farewell, George Evelyn, Henry Weston, Robert Goodwin, Francis Drake, John Goodwin, Esquires, Colonel Edmond Harvey, Colonel Samuell Jones, Cornelius Holland, Edmond Jordan, Robert Wood, Henry Hastings, Esquires, Major Jeremy Baynes, Captain Juxton, Captain Gates, Captain Inwood, Robert Lane, Mr. Collins, Mr. Tunstall, Mr. Sackford Gunstone, Mr. Thomas Cullam, Mr. Robert Meade, Captain Mercer, Captain Hoblin, Mr. Richard Clarke, Mr. Cornelius Cooke, Mr. Wm. Barton, Mr. William Beake, Mr. Robert Haughton, Mr. Richard Wright, Mr. Francis Smith, Mr. William Hiccock, Mr. Tarleton, Mr. Edward Barker, Joseph Collier, and Will'm Crofts, shall be Committees, for disposing the Affairs of the County of Surrey; and the major Part, or any Five of them, shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, to raise Forces within or for the said County, and appoint Officers for the same, fortify Towns, or other Places, within the said County; and with the said Forces to fight with, kill, and slay, any that shall invade that County without Authority of Parliament; associate amongst themselves, or with other Counties, for their mutual Defence; imprison and punish Offenders against any Order or Ordinance of Parliament; execute all Orders and Ordinances of Parliament, and to assess and levy Money according to the several Orders and Ordinances of Parliament; and appoint Collectors and Treasurers to receive the same, and to issue out the same, for the Uses aforesaid, by Warrant under the Hands of the said Committees, or any Five of them, who are to be accountable to the Par liament for the same; and to do and execute in that County all other Things that they conceive may conduce to the Peace and Safety of that County; and (fn. 4) in what they shall do in Pursuance of this Ordinance, they shall be Protected by both House of Parliament: provided that any Thing in this Ordinance shall not extend to the receiving, employing, or disposing of any of the Monies collected upon the Ordinance already made, or to be made, for the Weekly Assessments within that County; but that the same shall be collected, received, and employed, in such Manner as is or shall be appointed by the said Ordinance or Ordinances."

Dr. Twist, & al. Thanks for their Sermons, and to print them.

Ordered, That Doctor Twist, that preached before the Assembly; Mr. Bowles, and Mr. Newcomen, that preached before the Assembly at the Fast; Mr. Hill, Mr. Spurstow, and Mr. Vines, that preached before the Two Houses of Parliament the of July, upon the Day of Humiliation, in the Parish Church of St. Margerets in Westm. shall have Thanks given them, from this House, for their great Pains therein; and be desired to print their Sermons.

"Unto your Lordships and others, Commissioners for conserving the Articles of the Treaty, wee William Earle of Morton, Robert Earle of Roxburgh, James Earle of Annandaill, George Erle of Kinnoull, Wm. Earl of Lanerick, and Robert Erle of Carnwath.

Scottish Earls Submission.

"Humbly sheweth,

"That, upon a Letter of Credence (as wee are informed), from both Houses of Parliament, for Michaell Welden, directed to your Lordships, he produces annother Letter directed to the Councell, and your Lordships Commissioners for conserving the Articles of the late Treaty, directed and signed by the Speakers of both Houses, That, dureing our Aboade in England, wee have made ourselves Incendiaryes betwixt the King and His People, and have advised Acts of Hostility against the Subjects of England, contrary to the Act of Pacification; and therefore craves that Order may bee taken for a speedy Procedure against us, and that Justice may bee done upon us, whome, as he alleadgeth, the Parliament of England hes found to bee Incendiaryes betwixt His Majesty and His Subjects of England; heirupon wee are sommoned to appeare before your Lordships this Day, to answere to the said Complainte; and all this founded upon a Letter alleadged written, and subscribed by us, from the Earle of Derbye's House of Latham, to the Queenes Majesty, then at Yorke: As wee have beene alwayes ready to discharge that Duety to our Soveraigne which justly He might have expected from faithfull Servaunts, soe are wee most confident, and our Consciences beare us Wittnes, that, dureing our Aboade in England, all our Actions and Councells have beene so farre from incensing His Majesty against His Houses of Parliament, that as wee wished noething more really, soe did wee studdy nothing more heartily, then that all Misunderstanding betwixt His Majesty and them might have beene removed; neither, by any Letter of ours to Hir Majesty, had wee the least Thought or Intention to doe or advise any hostile Act, to the Prejudice of the Peace of that Kingdome; yet, being unwilling to have our Names heard, or ourselves brought in Question, as Men disaffected to the Peace, or Doers of evill Offices betwixt the King and His Subjects of England; wee doe humbly desire your Lordships to take such a Course as our cleare Intentions may appeare to both Houses of Parliament, and we liberate from lying any longer under such a Charge, wherein wee have bin the more unfortunate, that wee were come out of England before wee heard of any Challenge; whereas, if wee had bin there, wee are soe confident of the Justice of both Houses of Parliament, that wee hope wee should have given thame full Satisfaction in any Thing that might have bin layd to our Charge; and wee are verily perswaded that, if it will please your Lordships to enforme the Honourable Houses of Parliament of our earnest Desires for the happy settling of Differences betwixt the King and His People there, and of interteaning the Peace and Amity betwixt the Two Kingdomes (whereunto wee shall never faile to contribute our best Indeavours), they will bee pleased not to prosecute this Course against us.

"Sic subscribuntur,

"Arch. Primrose, Cleric. Commission."


Adjourn till 10a cras.


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