Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.
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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 28 September 1643', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 233-234. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol6/pp233-234 [accessed 5 March 2024]
DIE Jovis, 28 die Septembris.
Lord Grey de Warke, Speaker.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
L. Howard of Esc.
Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Ashton and others:
To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance concerning some Business touching Lanchashire.
The said Ordinance, for making the Chapelry of Holland a Chapel of Ease to the Parish of Wiggan, in Lanchashire, was read. (Here enter it.)
The Answer returned was:
That their Lordships do agree to the Ordinance now brought up.
Lord General gives an Account of Prisoners lately taken, by whom further Intelligence may be had concerning the Kentish Business.
The Lord General presented to this House divers Cornets of Horse, which were taken at Ciciter, and at the late Battle at Newberry, from the King's Army; One of which Cornets, that was taken at Ciciter in Sir Nic's Crispes's Regiment, had the Picture of the Parliament House, with Two Traitors Heads at the Ends of it; with this Motto, ut extra, sic intra.
And his Excellency further informed, "That the Two Regiments of Crispes and Spencer, taken at Ciciter, were designed for Kent, as was confessed by some of their Officers, which are with other Prisoners at Windsor; therefore his Excellency referred it to the Wisdom of this House, whether their Lordships would not think it fit to have some of the Officers sent for, to be examined, concerning a further Discovery of the Design in Kent."
Message to the H. C. about it.
Hereupon this House Ordered, To send the several Cornets to the House of Commons, and acquaint them with the Prisoners at Windsor; and that some of them confessed there was a Design for Kent, with the Two Regiments taken at Ciciter; therefore to offer it unto them, whether they think it not fit that some of the Officers should be sent for, to be examined concerning that Design:
And accordingly a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page.
Message to them, for a Conference about the Importation of Currants.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Serjeant Fynch:
To desire a Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as soon as it may stand with their Conveniency, touching the Ordinance against Importation of Currants.
Ordinance for providing Wood for London.
Next, the Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported, "That the Committee have considered of the Ordinance touching providing of Wood, for the Supply of the Cities of London and Westm. wherein the Committee have thought fit to make some Alterations, which they offer to the Consideration of this House."
The said Ordinance was read, and agreed to with the Alterations.
And this House nominated these Lords following to be Committees: videlicet,
The Earls of Pembrooke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
And the L. Howard of Est.
And the L. Wharton.
Or any Three.
Order for Mr. Keys being instituted to the Rectory of Sandwich.
The Order for Sir Nathaniell Brent's instituting and inducting Mr. John Keyes, Master of Arts, to the Rectory of Sundritch, in the County of Kent, was read, and allowed of by this House; and Ordered to be sent down to the House of Commons by Message, to desire their Concurrence therein, according to the Ordinance of both Houses for sequestering the Jurisdiction of the Archbishop of Canterb. dated the Tenth of June, 1643.
Sent to the H. C. with the Order for providing Wood.
Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Serjeant Fynch, which were sent to the House of Commons with a Message, having not yet been admitted in, were re-called, and had this further Addition to their Message, "To deliver to the House of Commons the Ordinance touching cutting of Wood for the Poor, and the Order for instituting of Keyes to the Rectory of Sundritch."
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:
Answer from the H. C.
That they have delivered the several Cornets to the House of Commons; and concerning the Examination of the Prisoners at Windsor, which were taken at Ciciter, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.
Assistants and Attendants not to reveal any Thing that passes in this House.
Upon Information to this House, "That there is a Passage, in a Book of News which comes from Oxford Weekly, of some private Discourses which was in this House between Two Lords;" which this House conceived to be a great Breach of the Privilege of Parliament: Hereupon this House Ordered, That, upon this Occasion, all the Assistants and Attendants on this House shall hereby be commanded to take Notice, that they report not nor reveal any private Thing done or said in this House, to any Person or Persons whatsoever out of the Walls of this House; and if any shall do contrary to this Command, they shall receive such exemplary Punishment as this House shall think fit to inflict upon them.
Serjeant Finch, Leave to be absent.
Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Fynch hath Leave to go into Kent, to dispatch some Business there, and afterwards to return.
The Messengers return with this Answer from the House of Commons:
Answer from the H. C.
That (fn. 1) they agree to the Order for Mr. Keyes; and concerning the rest of the Particulars of the Message, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.
Order for a Maintenance for the Minister of Holland in Lancashire.
"Whereas a Bill hath passed the House of Commons, and is now in the House of Peers (whereunto the King's Royal Assent in these Times of Distraction cannot be had), for making the Chapel of Holland, in the County of Lancaster, with the Precincts thereof, into a distinct Parish, and to be divided from the rest of the Parish of Wigan; and whereas, in the said Bill, it is Declared, That the said Parish of Wigan is very spacious and populous, and the Profits belonging to the said Rectory of Wigan is very great, and that the Inhabitants within the Precincts of the Chapelry of Holland do live far distant from the said Parish Church of Wigan (some of them near Six Miles), so as they cannot possibly receive the Benefit thereof; and although all Parochial Duties be necessarily exercised at the said Chapel of Holland, yet there is no Maintenance at all for a Preaching Minister belonging to it; and whereas now the whole Profits of the said Rectory of Wigan is taken and seized, by virtue of this Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament for the sequestering of Delinquents Estates; and the Committees for Sequestration have no Power by the said Ordinance to distribute or dispose any of the Profits belonging to the said Parish Church of Wigan unto any other Church or Chapel within the said Parish; and the People (by reason of these sad Distractions) are utterly unable to maintain a Minister at their own Charge: Therefore, for the providing of fit Maintenance for a Preaching Minister at the said Church or Chapel of Holland, and for the Ease of the Inhabitants within the said Chapelry, according to the Provisions in the said Bill, the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament do hereby Order and Ordain, That Mr. Rich'd Whittfeild, a Godly, Learned, and Orthodox Divine (now Minister of the said Church or Chapel of Holland), and the Ministers of the said Place successively, shall have, hold, receive, and take, all the Tithes, Lands, Rents, Duties, and Profits whatsoever, within the ancient Precincts of the said Chapelry of Holland; that is to say, the Yearly Rent of Nineteen Marks antiently paid for the Corn Tithes of the several Towns of Holland and Dalton, and all other Tithes and Profits whatsoever, within the said Towns and the Town of Orrell, and such Parts of the several Towns of Billing and Winstanly, as are within the known or reputed Precincts of the said Chapelry of Holland, which the Rector of the said Parish Church of Wigan had received, or heretofore enjoyed, in Right of the said Rectory or Parish Church of Wigan; and all Persons paying their Tithes, Rents, or other Duties, to the said Minister of Holland, within the Precincts of the said Chapelry as aforesaid, are hereby acquitted and discharged for the said Payments, and from all other Claims and Demands, by any Person or Persons whatsoever, concerning the same; and the Minister of the said Church or Chapel of Holland shall have the same Remedy to recover all Tithes, and other Profits, within the said Chapelry, that the Rector of Wigan had, or ought to have had, if this Ordinance had not been made; and whatsoever Duties to His Majesty shall be payable out of the said Rectory of Wigan, the said Minister of Holland shall pay and bear a full Sixth Part thereof, for the Profits he receives within the aforesaid Chapelry: And it is further Ordered and Ordained, That the Inhabitants within the said Chapelry of Holland shall, from Time to Time, bear all necessary Charges and Payments, to and for the said Church or Chapel of Holland; and they shall hereafter be discharged of and from all Offices, Payments, and Duties whatsoever, unto the said Parish or Parish Church of Wigan, and from all Attendance upon the same.
"And whereas, for procuring the Consent of Dr. Bridgeman Bishop of Chester, Rector of the said Parish Church of Wigan, unto the aforesaid Bill, William Ashhurst Son and Heir Apparent of Henry Ashhurst, of Ashhurst in the County of Lancaster Esquire, James Marshall, Richard Leigh, William Bower, Robert Holland, Jeffery Roby, and William Prescott of Holland Yeoman, David Holland, George Barton, and Richard Prescott of Dalton Yeoman, Jeffery Burchall of Orrell, John Smethhurst of Billing, and Nicholas Withington of Winstanly Yeoman, Inhabitants within the said Chapelry of Holland, did covenant to pay unto Orlando Bridgman Esquire, Son of the said Bishop of Chester, for his Use, Six Hundred Pounds per Annum, for all the rest of the Tithes and Profits of the said Rectory of Wigan, so long as he should continue Rector there; all which Tithes and Profits are now, by virtue of the aforesaid Ordinance of Sequestration, seized and taken, for the Delinquency of the said Bishop, and the said Orlando Bridgman: It is therefore further Ordered and Ordained, That the said William Ashhurst, Richard Leigh, James Marshall, Robert Holland, William Bower, Jeffery Roby, William Prescott, David Holland, George Barton, Rich'd Prescott, Jeffery Burchall, John Smethhurst, Nicholas Withington, and their Heirs, Executors, and Administrators, shall hereby be clearly acquitted and discharged from all Payments unto the said Bishop of Chester, or Orlando Bridgeman, or their Assigns, for any of the Tithes and Profits belonging to the said Rectory of Wigan, and from all Covenants, Bonds, or other Writings, concerning the same; and that they, and every of them, shall make a true and perfect Accompt, unto the Officers appointed for Sequestrations within the said County of Lancaster, of all Monies, or other Goods, belonging to the said Rectory of Wigan, received by them, or any of them, or any other Person employed from, by, or under them, or any of them; and if any Monies, or other Goods, belonging to the said Bishop of Chester, or Orlando Bridgman, be found in their Hands, they, and every of them, are hereby required forthwith to pay the same unto the said Officers for Sequestration, whose Acquittance shall be their sufficient Discharge; and they, and every of them, shall leave the whole Profits of the said Rectory of Wigan to be disposed by the Parliament for Time to come; and whatsoever any Person shall do in Pursuance of this Ordinance, they shall be saved harmless by the Power and Authority of both Houses of Parliament."
Order for Mr. Keyes to be inducted to the Rectory of Sandwich.
"Whereas Mr. Doctor Hall, Incumbent of the Parish of Sandwich, in the County of Kent, upon the Instance of the Parishioners there, is willing to resign the Rectory of Sandwich aforesaid unto John Keyes, Master of Arts, an Orthodox Divine, so that the said John Keyes might succeed him in the said Rectory: It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Sir Nathaniell Brent Knight, Vicar General to the Archbishop of Canterbury, or any other of his Judges and Officers having Authority in this Behalf, shall, upon Resignation of the said Rectory, give Institution and Induction of the same unto the said John Keyes, according to an Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, dated the Tenth of June, 1643, in that Behalf made."
House adjourned till 10 a cras.