House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 21 October 1643

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Sabbati, 21 die Octobris.


Lords present this Day:

The Lord Grey of Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Bruse.

Ordinance for providing Salt-petre.

The Earl of Northumb. reported, "That the Committee have considered the Ordinance for making of Salt-petre, wherein they have thought fit to make some few Alterations, which they offer to their Lordships Consideration."

The said Alterations being read, were approved of by the House, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons.

Needham's Petition, to preserve the Goods and Papers in Serjeant Littleton's Chambers in The Temple.

Upon reading the Petition of Arthur Needham; shewing, "That he is, and hath been, lately intrusted, by Serjeant Littleton, with the Black Lodgings, formerly the Lord Keeper Littleton's, situate in The Inner Temple; and now, upon the Ordinance of Sequestration, the Goods therein are forthwith to be inventoried, in which Lodgings there are also Writings of Consequence.

"His humble Suit is, That, after a perfect Inventory thereof shall be taken, the said Goods and Writings may still remain in the Charge and Custody of the Petitioner, until their Lordships shall otherwise be pleased to dispose thereof."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That because it (fn. 1) is in Doubt whose the Goods are, that the Persons that are employed to inventory the Goods shall be desired to forbear for Four or Five Days, until this House be informed whether the Goods appertain to the Lord Keeper, or the Serjeant Littleton; concerning the Writings and Evidences, in regard they may concern other Persons, this House thinks it fit they may remain there unmolested.

Report of the Conference about raising Monies within the Line of Communication;

Next, the Speaker reported the Conference Yesterday with the House of Commons:

"1. That they agree with their Lordships in all the Alterations sent down to them from this House, touching the raising of Monies within the Line of Communication; excepting to the Proviso."

Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons about this Proviso.

about the Great Seal;

"2. The House of Commons brought up some Votes concerning the Great Seal, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence."

Ordered, To be respited until some other Time.

and concerning the Archbishop of Canterbury.

"3. The House of Commons brought up particular Articles, in further Maintenance of their Impeachment of High Treason against the Archbishop of Canterbury."

Message from the H. C. with Orders;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir John Clatworthy Knight, and others; which consisted of these Particulars:

1. To desire Concurrence in an Order concerning the Adjournment of the next Term.

Agreed to, adding the Court of Exchequer to it.

2. An Order for putting in Ric'd Shute into the Cocketoffice, and putting out Sir John Worstenholme.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

3. And for paying Fifty Pounds to Captain Skrimpshire.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

for Committees to go into Scotland;

4. The House of Commons have nominated Six Persons, to be sent as Committees into Scotland, to be employed upon such Matters as both Houses shall give Instructions for; and they desire their Lordships would please to nominate a Committee of Lords, to join with them.

for Committees to meet about the Cessation in Ireland;

5. To desire that the Committee for Consideration of the Cessation of Ireland may meet this Afternoon.

Agreed to, and Ordered to meet at Three a Clock.

and for Bowles to import Currants.

6. An Order to give Licence to Bowles, to import a small Quantity of Currants from Holland.


The Answer returned was:


That their Lordships do agree with the House of Commons in the Order concerning the Cocket-office, and concerning Captain Skrimshire; and that their Lordships have appointed the Committee concerning the Cessation with the Rebels in Ireland to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock; and concerning the other Particulars of this Message, their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to the Ordinances about Saltpetre and adjourning the Term.

A Message accordingly was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page.

To let them know, that their Lordships do agree to the Ordinance concerning the Salt-petre, with the few Amendments; and likewise to the Order for the Judges to adjourn the next Term, with adding the Exchequer to it.

Order for putting Mr. Richard Shute into the Cocket office.

"Upon a Certificate this Day presented to the House of Commons, from divers great Merchants and principal Traders of the City of London; shewing the Necessity of the Cocket-office, and the Ease the Merchants receive thereby, and their Willingness to submit to the Continuance of it, so that it be not charged with above Two Shillings for the clear passing of it: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Sir John Wolstenholme Knight, who hath neglected his Place, and been absent Twelve Months, contrary to the Law, shall be suspended his Place of Collector of the Customs commonly called Tonnage and Poundage, in the Port of the City of London, and in all and singular Ports and Creeks thereunto belonging; that is to say, the Customs and Subsidies of Tonnage and Poundage of all Goods, Wares, and Merchandize, to be carried out of the Ports, Places, and Creeks; and also the keeping of the Seal commonly called the Cocket Seal, in the Ports, Places, and Creeks aforesaid, and all the Fees and Profits thereunto belonging; and that Richard Shute Merchant be put into, and admitted to execute, the said Places, who shall take and receive all the Arrears, Fees, Profits, and Commodities, belonging to the said Places, in as ample Manner as the said Sir John Wolstenholme, or any other Person or Persons, at any Time heretofore (that have executed the said Places), have done: Provided, That there be no more taken, for the clear passing the Cocket Seal, than Two Shillings a Cocket; and the Commissioners of the Customs, Comptroller, and all other Officers in the Port of London, or any other Person or Persons whom it may concern, are hereby required to take Notice thereof accordingly; and that the said Richard Shute shall presently advance One Thousand Pounds unto Mr. Richard Moore, a Member of the House of Commons, or his Assignee, to the Use of Sir Thomas Middleton Knight, likewise One of the Members of the said House, and in Part of Payment of a greater Sum due unto the said Sir Thomas from the State; and the Committee of Sequestrations for London are hereby Ordered to re-pay the said One Thousand Pounds, within Six Months after the Date hereof, to the said Richard Shute, or his Executors or Assigns, with Allowance after the Rate of Eight per Centum; and that Thomas Cranthorne continue to execute the said Cocket-office, as Agent under the abovesaid Richard Shute, and to receive such Allowance as he formerly had from Sir John Wolstenholme for the same, until this House do order the contrary."

Order for 56 l. to Captain Skrimpshire.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Fifty Pounds, out of the next Monies that shall come in of the Adventurers-money for Ireland, be paid, by the Treasurers at Guildhall, to Nicholas Loftus Esquire, Deputy Treasurer at Wars for the Affairs of Ireland, to be by him paid over unto Captain Skrimpsheire, and to be defalked out of his Pay that shall appear to be due unto him as a Captain of a Foot Company in Ireland."


House adjourned till 10a, Lunæ.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.