House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 28 October 1643

Pages 282-283

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Sabbati, 28 die Octobris.


Lords present:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Bruse.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Hunsden.

Archbishop of Canterbury's Petition, for Counsel.

Upon reading the humble Petition of the Archbishop of Canterbury; desiring, "That Mr. Hales may be assigned to be of Counsel for him, in putting in his Answer to this House, to his Articles of Impeachment:" Which was accordingly granted him.

The Lord Mayor, Lieutenant of The Tower, gave Answer why he did not take Security of Mr. Clement Walker, according to the Orders of this House:

Lieutenant of The Tower's Answer, about not bailing Mr. Walker.

"In Obedience to the Commands of the House of Peers, by their Order of the 27th of October, the Answer to Clement Walker Esquire's Complaint is as followeth:

"That the Petitioner refusing to seal a Bond with such a Condition as is advised by Learned Counsel, videlicet, That he shall render himself again after the Business of Bristoll shall be ended, or at a Day certain, nominated in the Condition of the Bond, is the Cause why Mr. Walker's Security hath not been taken; which nevertheless I submit to your Lordships Pleasure, attending further Direction therein.

"Isaac Pennington."

Hereupon this House confirmed their former Orders made in this Business.

Covenant to be taken by the Lords and Assistants.

Ordered, That Monday next is appointed for the taking of the Covenant by those Lords that have not taken it.

Ordered, That all the Assistants of this House shall attend this House on Monday; and then their Lordships will appoint a Time for them to take the Covenant.

Countess of Carlisle's Petition about her Jointure, which is sequestered.

Upon reading the Petition of Margarett Countess of Carlile, "That whereas the hath petitioned the House of Commons for some Maintenance out of Waltham, where her Jointure is, it being all sequestered by the Parliament; and hereupon it was referred to the Committee for Sequestrations: Now, in regard the Committee have considered thereof, and find that they cannot afford her that Favour which her Cause deserves, without the Assistance of their Lordships, because of a Restraint by a late Ordinance of Parliament; therefore the humbly desires their Lordships would give such Direction herein as in their Judgements and Wisdoms they shall think fit."

Hereupon this House Ordered, To send to the House of Commons a Message, to let them know, The Lords in Parliament, having considered of the Petition of the Countess of Carlile, Wife of the now Earl of Carlile, being a Lady that deserves very well of the Parliament, are very desirous to shew her all the Respect that may be; but, in regard of the Ordinance of Sequestration, she (fn. 1) is to be allowed but the Fifth Part, being much less than she deserves, their Lordships do recommend the Consideration of her further Desires to the House of Commons, who have lately, upon a Petition of her's preferred to that House, expressed their good Inclinations unto her; which their Lordships very well approve of."

Message to the H. C. with it;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and Mr. Serjeant Fynch:

To deliver to them the Petition of the Lady Margarett Countess of Carlile, with the Recommendations of this House as abovesaid.

about Mr. Nicholls's Speeches of the Earl of Stamford;

2dly, To deliver to them the Papers delivered in Yesterday, concerning Mr. Nicolls, a Member of their House, which their Lordships out of their Respect do acquaint them (fn. 2) with.

and with Mr. Stancomb's Ordinance.

3dly, To deliver to them the Ordinance for inducting and instituting Mr. Stancombe to the Vicarage of Muncton, in the Isle of Thanett; and their Concurrence therein to be desired.

Marquis De Vieuville, Leave to send Horses to France.

Ordered, That the Marquis De Vieuville hath Leave to transport into France Eight Horses or Geldings, and Two Mares.

This House thought it fit to send to the House of Commons, to desire them to be very sparing of giving Passes for transporting of Horses.

Bishop of Chichester's Petition, concerning the Sequestration of his Estates.

The humble Petition of Henry Bishop of Chichester, was read; shewing, "That his Rents and Goods, at Chichester, Petworth, and in London, were sequestered by the Committee of the several Places; that the Petitioner, humbly conceiving himself not to have done any Thing which might draw upon him the same by the Ordinance of the Houses of Parliament, upon his Appeal by Petition to the Honourable Committee of Sequestrations of both Houses, had a Charge certified against him from the Committee of Sussex, in May last; which being none other than what had been examined and cleared upon Examination by Sir Wm. Waller, the Execution of the Sequestration was for (fn. 3) some Time forborn; but (your Petitioner's Appeal depending before the Committee of both Houses undetermined) the Sequestration was, by Vote of the Honourable House of Commons 27 Junii last, annexed, Ordered to be proceeded in, the Petitioner being as yet unheard; which is done in several Places abovenamed.

"That the Petitioner thereupon petitioning again the Honourable Committee of both Houses at their last Sitting, as many Times before, to have his Appeal determined before his Goods sold, for which a short Day is appointed, but the Execution not suspended in the Interim, the Committee of Lords inclining thereto; the Committee of the Honourable House of Commons conceiving some Restraint upon them by the Vote in their House made, depending your Petitioner's Appeal, did forbear for the present to give any Order therein, but left the Petitioner further humbly to seek his Relief, to stay the present Execution of the Sequestration in the mean Time."

The Sequestration to be suspended.

Hereupon this House Ordered, That there be a Suspension of the Execution of the Committee, and no Goods sold until the Business hath been heard and determined by the Committee of Sequestrations of Lords and Commons, according as is appointed by the Ordinance of Sequestrations of both Houses.

Matters voted by Committees of One House, which ought to have been done only by both Houses.

Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons on Monday next, about this Business and others which have been voted and Ordered by Committees, and One House, whereas nothing should have been executed but by Order of both Houses.

Mr. Spratt at the Bar.

This Day Steven Spratt was called to this Bar as a Delinquent; and the Letter which he writ to the Lord Howard and divers other Letters were shewed unto him; and being asked whether they were his Hand-writing, he confessed they were.

Hereupon he withdrew.

Then this House was informed, "That Steven Spratt, since his being in Newgate, hath spoken very scandalous Words against the Parliament, tending to stir People up to Sedition;" and the Letters were read.

Re-committed to Newgate.

Hereupon this House Ordered, That he shall be returned back to Newgate, upon his former Restraint, there to remain until this House can produce the Witnesses that heard him speak those Words against the Parliament.


House adjourned till 10a, Monday next.


  • 1. Bis in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. with it.
  • 3. Deest in Originali.