House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 8 February 1644

Pages 416-417

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Jovis, 8 die Februarii.

PRAYERS, said by Mr. Carryll.

Lords present this Day:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
L. General.
L. Admiral.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Bolinbrooke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Kente.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Hunsden.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Berkley.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Rob't Rich (fn. 1) and Mr. Page, sent with a Message Yesterday to the House of Commons, return with this Answer:

That (fn. 2) they agree to the Alteration of the Sheriff of North'tonshire; and to the Two Ordinances, they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Message from thence, with an Ordinance.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Peter Wentworth and others:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance for appointing Committees of both Houses to treat with the Scottish Commissioners, about the Affairs of both Kingdoms, according to the Ends of the late Covenant and Treaty.


The said Ordinance was read; and the Answer for the present was:

That this House will take this Ordinance into Consideration, and will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, in convenient Time.

Ordinance appointing Committees of both Houses to treat with the Scotch Commissioners.

Then this House commanded the said Ordinance to be read the Second Time; and Ordered to be debated by a Committee of the whole House.

And accordingly the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and it was taken into Consideration.

The House was resumed.

And the Preamble, and the First Part of the Power, were agreed to; but the Debate was, whether this Clause, videlicet, ["And further Power and Authority is hereby given to them, or any Six of them, whereof One Lord and Two Commoners as a joint Committee with the Committee and Commissioners of Scotland, to advise, consult, order, and direct, concerning the carrying on and managing of the War for the best Advantage of the Three Kingdoms,"] shall be laid aside?

And the Question being put;

It was Resolved Affirmatively, That this Clause now read shall be laid aside.

French Ambassador's Requests on his going Home.

It was moved, as the Desire of Prince D'Harcourt, That this House would grant the several Particulars mentioned in a Paper, he being to go speedily (fn. 3) into France; videlicet,

"A Pass, for him, and his Train, and Baggage, to go over into France.

"Another Pass, for Twenty-five Horses, which he brought over when he came into England, and for Twelve Mules.

"Another Pass, for Forty Horses that he hath or intends to carry over, being Six Mares amongst them.

"Another Pass, for a Matter of an Hundred Dogs of several Kinds.

"Another, for Monsieur Du Molin, to go to Oxford.

"And a Warrant for Coaches, Horses (fn. 4), and other Necessaries, for Prince De Harcourt's Journey.

"Another Pass, for Monsieur De Gressy, to go over into France.

"And also a Ship of War, for the Prince De Harcourt to go over.

"Also a Ship of Three Hundred Tons, laden with Coal, to go from Newcastle to Callis, to carry Coal for the Governor at Callis."

All which Particulars this House granted; and Ordered the same, as is desired.

Jennings and Dawes.

Upon reading the Petition of Thomas Jennyns Esquire, shewing, "That Sir Thomas Dawes, in his Petition, denies that the Five Bonds are in Trust; therefore desires a Day for hearing the Difference between them:"

And it is Ordered, That this House will hear the Counsel on both Sides at this Bar on Wednesday come Sevennight; at which Time both Parties with their Counsel and Witnesses are to attend.


House adjourned till 10a cras.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Origin. the.
  • 3. Origin. in.
  • 4. Origin. Horses and Coaches.