House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 21 February 1644

Pages 435-436

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Mercurii, videlicet, 21 die Februarii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Marshall.

Lords present this Day:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Kent.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Northumb.
L. Admiral.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Willoughby.

Message from the H. C. with Orders, &c.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Robert Pye Knight, and others;

To present to their Lordships Consideration divers Particulars, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence:

1. Concerning an Oath to be taken by the Committees that treat with the Scotts Commissioners about the managing of the War.

2. An Order, That the Chairman of that Committee shall give the aforesaid Oath.

3. An Order to pay Money Monthly to Mr. Turnor.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

4. An Order to refer the sending away of Sir Wm. Waller's Forces and other Forces, (fn. 1) to take the best Advantage of the Kingdom. (Here enter it.)


concerning Lord Lothian;

5. That the Case and Condition of the Imprisonment of the Lord Lothian be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms, to consider what is fit to be done for his Release; and to report their Opinions at the next Sitting of the House.

Agreed to.

with Committees Names for Northampton;

6. To desire their Lordships Concurrence that Mr. Britton and Mr. Thornton may be added to the Committee at North'ton.

Agreed to.

and Essex;

7. That Mr. John Sparrow may be added to the Committee for the County of Essex.

Agreed to.

to expedite the Commission for the Master of the Rolls.

8. To desire their Lordships would please to expedite the Commission concerning the Master of the Rolls.

The Answer returned was:


That to the Orders concerning the Oath to be taken by the Committees of both Kingdoms, and to the Commission concerning the Master of the Rolls, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own. To all the rest of the Particulars, this House agrees to them.

Oath of Secrecy to be taken by the Members of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Then this House took into Consideration the Oath to be taken by the Committees of both Kingdoms: And after a Debate;

It is Ordered and Declared, as the Resolution of this House, "That it is the undoubted Right and Privilege of a Peer that fits in this House, to come to any Committee of this House, or of both Houses, and in particular to the Committee of both King doms lately made by Ordinance of Parliament, intituled, "An Ordinance for the appointing a Committee of both Houses of Parliament to join with the Committee and Commissioners of Scotland, for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations in the common Cause, according to the Ends expressed in the late Covenant and Treaty between the Two Nations of England and Scotland.

Committee to consider of it.

Ordered, That these Lords following are appointed to take into their Consideration the Oath to be taken by the Committees of both Kingdoms; and to make the Report of their Opinion thereof to this House:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard.
Their Lordships, or any Three, to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock in the Prince's Lodgings.

Restraining Peers from coming to Committees, not being of them.

Next, it was moved, "That this Question might be put; videlicet,

"Whether this House may not restrain any of their Members from coming to a Committee, besides those of the Committee?"

And the Question was put,

"Whether this Question shall be put?"

And it was Resolved Negatively.

Jennings and Sir Thomas Dawes.

Ordered, That the Cause between Mr. Jenyns and Sir Tho. Dawes shall be heard by Counsel on both Sides on Tuesday Morning next.

Servants about the King's Children.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the rectifying of the Servants attending the King's Children at St. James shall meet at Two of the Clock To-morrow in the Afternoon.

Sir John Henden's Petition.

Ordered, That the Petition of Sir John Henden Knight, Nephew and Executor of the last Will and Testament of Sir Edward Henden, late One of the Barons of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer, is hereby referred to the Committee at Habberdashers Hall, to do therein as they shall think (fn. 2) fit, to end this Business.

Smith discharged from his Assessment.

Upon reading the Petition of John Smith, an Attendant on this House; shewing, "That his Estate lies in the Power of the King's Forces, and he is assessed at Twenty Pounds for the (fn. 3) Twentieth Part, which he is not able to pay in regard his Estate is out of his Command:" Therefore it is Ordered by this House, That the said John Smith is hereby discharged from the said Assessment.

Mr Salusbury to be instituted to Whepsted.

Upon reading an Ordinance brought into this House for the Countess of Exeter, for the instituting and admitting of Ambrose Salusbury to the Church and Parsonage of Whepstead, in the County of Suff. the late Minister there Edmund Hinde having absolutely resigned the same: This House approved of this Ordinance; and Ordered, That the same be sent to the House of Commons, to desire their Concurrence.

Sir William Waller's Forces and others to be employed for the best Advantage of the Kingdom.

It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to dispatch and expedite away the Forces of Sir William Waller's Brigade, with all Diligence; and likewise to take some Course that all the other Forces under my Lord General and the rest of the Forces of the Kingdom and the Earl of Manchester, may be put into a speedy Posture to pursue the War for the best Advantage of the Kingdom."

Turner, & al. to be paid 1000 l Quarterly, till 42,920 l. 12s. 8 d. is paid.

Whereas Richard Turner the Elder, Ric'd Turner the Younger, Maurice Gethin, Tempest Milner, Richard Wollaston, and Wm. Hawkins, Citizens of London, for Supply of the pressing Occasions of the Kingdom, have issued out their Estates and Credits, to the Sum of Forty-two Thousand Nine Hundred and Twenty Pounds, Twelve Shillings, and Eight Pence, of which Sum they have as yet received no Satisfaction, either by Re-payment of any Part of the Principal, or any Consideration for the Time of Forbearance, although Twelve Months are expired since the Times of the Reimbursement were appointed: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Committee at Habberdash'rs Hall, London, do pay unto the said Rich'd Turner the Elder, Rich'd Turner the Younger, Maurice Gethin, Tempest Milner, Rich'd Wollaston, and Wm. Hawkins, One Thousand Pounds every Three Months, upon Accompt, by equal Proportions Monthly, towards the Satisfaction and Payment of a Debt owing unto them by the State.


House adjourned till 9a cras Aurora.


  • 1. Origin. away to.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.
  • 3. Origin. Party.