House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 11 May 1644

Pages 549-550

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Sabbati, 11 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Jackson.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

L. General.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Lyncolne.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Kent.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Berkley.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers sent Yesterday to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That they agree in the Ordinance concerning Gloucester; and concerning the Earl of Stamford's Petition, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message from thence, to remove the Regiment from Bedford to Ailsbury.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Oliver Luke Knight, and others:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Order for removing the Regiment now at Bedford to Alsebury.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


This House agrees with the House of Commons in the Order for removing the Regiment at Bedford to Alsebury.

This Day divers Aldermen and Common Council Men of the City of London presented to this House a Petition, from the Lord Mayor, Court of Aldermen and the Common Council of the City of London; which Petition this House received, and commanded to be read, as followeth:

City of London Petition, for the Lords to continue a good Agreement with the H. C.

"To the Right Honourable the Lords now assembled in the High Court of Parliament.

"The humble Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons of the City of London, in Common Council assembled,


"That the Petitioners with all due Thankfulness acknowledge your great Care and Endeavours for the Safety and Preservation of Religion, Laws, and Liberties, in these sad Times of Danger and Distraction; and they do bless God for the former Union and Concurrence of this Honourable House with the House of Commons for the Public Good, it being that which hath ever rendered you and them most honourable to your Friends, and dreadful to your Enemies; and the most hopeful Means to bring the Kingdom's great Sufferings to a happy and honourable Conclusion, and to make your Names famous to all Posterity.

"The Petitioners, therefore, apprehending the sad Consequences of it, if that happy Concurrence should be obstructed, do make it their humble Suit unto this Honourable House, to continue the same with the Honourable House of Commons, in the carrying on the great Cause of God and the Kingdoms; and to be assured that this City will still adhere unto your Lordships, to the Expence of their Estates and Lives, according to their late Solemn Covenant.

"And they will pray, &c.


Committee to consider of an Answer to it.

The House, taking this Petition into Consideration, appointed these Lords following to draw up what Answer is fit to be returned to this Petition, and report the same to this House:

L. General.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Lyncolne.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard.

Their Lordships, or any Three, to meet presently.

Report concerning the Honour of both Houses, and the E. of Essex.

The Earl of Lyncolne reported from the Committee appointed to examine the Business which concerns the Honour of both Houses, and a Peer of this Kingdom; and the Committee of the House of Commons cannot proceed therein, until they have reported the Business to the House of Commons, because they conceive there is some Thing in the Oath given to the Witnesses which they must receive the further Directions of the House of Commons therein.

Committee to prepare Reasons for dissenting from the H. C. in the Ordinance for excluding Members.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons, to be offered to the House of Commons, why their Lordships do not agree with them in the Ordinance, with the Alterations, concerning the excluding such Members of both Houses as have deserted the Parliament, shall meet on Monday next, in the Afternoon, at Three a Clock.

Report of an Answer to the City Petition.

The Earl of Northumb. reported, "That the Committee have drawn up an Answer to the Petition from the City."

Which was read, and approved of by the House; and the Speaker was appointed to read this Answer to them.

Persons who brought the Petition called in.

Then the House commanded the Persons that brought the Petition should be called in; and the Speaker read the aforesaid Answer unto them as followeth:

The Answer.

"The Lords and Peers in Parliament assembled have commanded me to give you Thanks, for that continual Care and great Affection which the City hath expressed upon all Occasions to the Parliament, and to this House in particular; and that we are not conscious to ourselves that we have done any Thing that might tend to any Disagreement, or to obstruct a happy Understanding between the Two Houses. We have adventured our Lives, lost our Estates, and are resolved, by the Blessing of God, not to esteem any Thing more dear and near unto us, than the Continuance of the Unity betwixt both Houses, and of our Respect and Affection to the Renowned City of London."

Lord General going to join the Army.

The Lord General signified to this House, "That he intended to go into the Army on Monday next, and knew not how soon he might march; therefore desired that the House of Commons might be put in Mind of their Lordships Proposition to them concerning Committees of both Houses to go along with him in the Army."

Message to the H. C. for Committees to go with him.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild and Serjeant Fynch:

To let them know, that the Lord General is going to the Army; and to desire them that they would appoint a Committee of their House, to join with a Committee of Two Lords, to go along with the Lord General in the Army.

Wombell freed from his Assessment.

Upon reading the Petition of Wm. Wombell, an Attendant on this House; shewing, "That he hath received a Ticket from the Committee at Goulsmithes Hall, to pay in Thirty Pounds, to be lent (fn. 1) for our Brethren of Scotland; but, in regard of his long Attendance on this House, having no Salary, he is not able to pay the said Thirty Pounds: Therefore desires their Lordships Consideration."

Hereupon this House, in regard he hath been a constant Attendant on this House, Ordered, That it be recommended to the said Committee, from this House, that he may be freed from paying the Thirty Pounds.

Sir John Cordell, Limbrey & al. and Langham.

Whereas the Counsel of Mr. Lymbrey and others should have been heard this Day, why the Cause between them and Alderman Langham and others should not be dismissed this House; but, in regard of the great Affairs this Day, they could not be heard; this House Orders they shall be heard peremptorily on Tuesday Morning next.

Deputy Lieutenants for Middlesex.

Ordered, That this House agrees that Sir John Danvers and Sir James Harrington shall be added, to be Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Midd.


House adjourned till 9a, Monday next.


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