House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 22 May 1644

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 22 May 1644', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 563-564. British History Online [accessed 16 April 2024]


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DIE Mercurii, 22 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Whittaker.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Kent.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Berkley.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference about the Committee of both Kingdoms.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Erle Knight, and others:

To desire a Conference, concerning the Committee for both Kingdoms.

The Answer returned was:


That their Lordships will give a present Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Ordinance for regulating Sequestrations.

The Lord Viscount Say & Seale reported, "That the Committee have met, and considered of the Ordinance for regulating Sequestrations; and the Committtee are of Opinion, That it is fit to pass, with a small Addition, videlicet, in the Eighth Article, in the Fourth Line, after the Word ["residing"], add these Words ["in the City of London, or"]; and Three new Articles more to be added."

The said Ordinance was read, with the said Additions, and Agreed to.

Archbishop of Cant's Trial.

Ordered, That the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterburie is put off until Monday Morning next.

The Lords went to the Conference; and the House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The House was resumed.

Report of the Conference, concerning the Ordinance for the Committee of both Kingdoms.

And the Speaker reported the Effect of the Conference: "That whereas their Lordships sent down the Ordinance for the Committee of both Kingdoms with some Additions, wherein they do not agree with their Lordships, but adhere to the Ordinance as it came up without any Additions; not that any Thing reflects upon those Lords that were named, but to avoid the Intricateness and Trouble as will be in naming a Committee of their House."

And upon Debate;

This Question was put, "Whether this House shall send a Message now to the House of Commons, concerning the Committee to be sent to the Lord General?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to the H. C. for a Committee to go to the Ld. General.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To put them in Mind, that whereas this House sent formerly a Message to them, to desire that Two Lords, with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, might be sent to the Lord General, to reside with him in the Army, of which Message this House hath received no Answer; therefore to desire that they would give an Answer concerning that Business.

Lords adhere to their Amendment in the Ordinance for the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Next, this Question was put, "Whether this House will adhere to their former Vote, of adding these Two Lords to be of the Committee of both Kingdoms?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Committee to prepare Reasons for it.

Then this House nominated these Lords Committees following, to prepare Reasons to be offered to the House of Commons, in Answer to Mr. Stroud's Reasons delivered at the Conference this Day; and to report the same to this House:

Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Grey.

Their Lordships, or any Three, to meet at Three of the Clock this Afternoon.

Answer from the H. C.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:

That they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Countess of Carlisle, Privilege.

The House being informed, "That there is (fn. 1) a Cause depending in Chancery, which is to be heard Tomorrow Morning, wherein the Lady Lucy Countess Dowager of Carlile is made a Party to the Suit, contrary to the Privilege of Parliament, she being a Peer of this Realm; therefore desires her Privilege of Parliament."

Suit between her and Latham, Morehead, & al. stopped.

Whereas this House was informed, That there is a Suit prosecuted against the Lady Lucy Countess Dowager of Carlile, at the Suit of William Latham, David Moorehead, Andrewe Morrison, John Fowler, and others; and another at the Suit of Ellice Wynn and others, in the Court of Chancery; which is in Breach of her Ladyship's Privilege: It is therefore Ordered, by the Lords in Parliament assembled, That the said Countess of Carlile is hereby allowed her Privilege as a Peeress; and that the Parties aforesaid, their Counsel, Attornies, and Solicitors, do forbear any further Proceedings in the said Causes, and either of them, as concerning her Ladyship, until this House shall give further Order herein."


  • 1. Deest in Originali.