House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 20 July 1644

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 20 July 1644', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 642-643. British History Online [accessed 16 April 2024]


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DIE Sabbati, 20 die Julii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Bond.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Lyncolne.
Ds. North.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Mountague.

Petition, for Persons who have lost their Estates in Jersey, for adhering to the Parliament, to be considered; and a Declaration to be published against their Opponents.

The Speaker acquainted this House with "a Letter from the Lord Admiral, dated from Torbay, 12 July, 1644, concerning those Persons of the Isle of Jersey that have lost their Estates for adhering to the Parliament; desiring that some Course may be taken, that they may have an Ordinance, for to be repaired out of Malignants Goods and Estates there; and that a Declaration may be made against Captain George Carteret and his Adherents, for the annulling of all the Proceedings had in the said Island against the Parliament."

Likewise a Petition from the Inhabitants of Jersey, that have received Loss of their Estates for the Parliament, was read. And this House Ordered, To send this Letter and Petition to the House of Commons, with Recommendations.

Message to the H. C. with it;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

To recommend to them the Petition of the Inhabitants of the Isle of Jersey.

to remind them of the Countess of Devon's Pass;

2. To desire them to remember the Pass for the Countess of Devon, to send for her Coach and Six Horses from Oxford to London, she being at her House at Latimer, under the Power of the Parliament.

to expedite an Ordinance.

3. To desire them to give Expedition to the Ordinance sent down to them, for paying the Creation-money to the Peers that now sit in Parliament.

The King's, &c. Servants refused Privilege, and the Lords who have deserted the House.

Upon reading the Petition of divers of the King's Servants; desiring, "That Privilege of Parliament may be granted to their Persons from Arrests, because their Pensions and Salaries, and other Benefits of their Places, are now restrained from them:" Hereupon this House did not think it fit to grant this Petition; but declared their Resolutions to be, not to grant Privilege and Protection of Parliament to the King's Servants, because He protects not the Parliament; nor any Lords (fn. 1) voluntarily deserting and absent from the Parliament, because they are absent, and have deserted the Parliament; and also in regard that this is a continued Parliament, and so their Creditors will be deprived of all Remedies to recover their just Debts; and, for the Reasons aforesaid, also, neither the Queen's nor the Prince's Servants are to be allowed Privilege, or Protection of Parliament.

Ordinance for Sir Thomas Middleton to have 1000 l. out of Delinquents Estates.

Next, the Ordinance formerly brought up from the House of Commons, concerning Sir Thomas Middleton's having One Thousand Pounds out of the Estates of Delinquents which shall be discovered; and, upon the Question, it was Ordered to be laid aside and rejected.

Order for 200 l. to Major Lydcott and Captain Vivers.

Also, an Order for paying Two Hundred Pounds to Major Lydcott and Captain Vivers was read, and Ordered to be rejected.

Ordinance for displacing Two Deputy Lieutenants of Cheshire.

Next, an Order was read, brought from the House of Commons formerly, for putting Hen. Manwaring and Hen. Vernon from being Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Chester, in regard of their ill Service to the Parliament; and it is Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

Ordinance to exempt the Parks of Peers, &c. from Assessments.

The House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to consider of the Ordinance for exempting the Parks of the Members of Parliament from Assessments and Taxes.

And the House was resumed.

And the said Ordinance was read the Third Time, and Agreed to; and Ordered to be sent down to the House of Commons, to desire their Concurrence herein.

Ordinance for Disposal of Livings in the Gift of Bishops, &c.

Next, the Ordinance concerning presenting and disposing of Parsonages and Livings (fn. 2) in the Donation of the Bishops was read, and suspended until the King's Counsel do bring in the Ordinance which they are directed to prepare concerning this Business; and the Civilians are to assist the King's Counsel in drawing the said Ordinance, and bring it in by this Day Sevennight.

Offences of Criminals reprieved at the Sessions to be considered.

The House took into Consideration the several Facts and Offences of such as are reprieved at the Sessions, and desire a Pardon; and, because some Offences are by this House conceived to be not fit to be pardoned, it is Ordered, To have a Conference with the House of Commons, about this Business.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance concerning Martial Law.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Vane Knight, Senior:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance concerning Martial Law, which is a Business that concerns the Preservation of the Parliament and City; therefore their Lordships are desired to give Expedition herein.

The said Ordinance was read Once.

The Answer returned was:


That this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree to grant a Pass, for the Countess of Devon's Coach and Horses to be brought from Oxford; and concerning the Ordinance concerning Creationmoney, and the Petition concerning the Inhabitants of the Isle of Jersey, they will take them into Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Order for displacing Manwaring and Vernon, from being Deputy Lieutenants of Cheshire.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That Henry Manwaring and Henry Vernon Esquires, Two Deputy Lieutenants of Cheshire, in regard of their Disservice to the Parliament in many Particulars, be forthwith discharged and removed from their said Places, and other Power of Command in any Military Way; or in gathering or receiving Monies; and that all Horses, Arms, Ammunition, and Money, now under their or either of their Commands, belonging to the State, be, upon Demand, delivered up to Sir William Brereton, to be by him disposed of and employed for the said Service of King and Parliament; and that the said Persons be called to Accompt for what Monies, Arms, and Ammunition, they have, and accordingly to restore the same for the Public Service."


  • 1. Origin. voluntary.
  • 2. Origin. in Gifts in &c.