House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 21 September 1644

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 21 September 1644', in Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 6, 1643, (London, 1767-1830) pp. 711-712. British History Online [accessed 16 April 2024]


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DIE Sabbati, 21 die Septembris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Painter.

Ds. North, Speaker this Day.

Comes Rutland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Kent.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Denbigh.
L. Admiral.
Comes Nottingham.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Berkley.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page, sent Yesterday to the House of Commons with a Message, return with this Answer:

That they agree to the Proviso in the Ordinance concerning Worcestershire; and they agree in the Order for the assessing of the Lord Coventry; and concerning the Paper of The States Ambassadors, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

The Earl of Kent reported, "That the Earl of (fn. 1) had taken the Covenant."

Next, a Letter thus directed was read;

E. of Essex's Letter, that Ld. Pagett came in to him; recommending him to the Favour of the House.

"For the Right Honourable the Lord Gray of Warke, Speaker of the House of Peers.

"My Lord,

"When I was last at Plymouth, my Lord Pagett came to me from the King's Quarters, being resolved to put himself into the Protection of the Parliament. I am so much satisfied, upon particular Discourse with him, of his real and noble Intentions to live and die in the Service of his Country, that I think it my Duty to acquaint your Lordship with it. The Time of his coming in, being after our Loss in Cornwall, adds very much both to my Satisfaction, and I think will do to every Man's, with what sincere and good Resolutions he came to us. I recommend him and his Condition to your Lordship's Favour and Goodness; not doubting but you will make him a Pattern for Encouragement to others. And this will be a great Favour done to

Portsmouth, 18 Septemb. 1644.

"Your Lordship's humble Servant,

Committee for the E of Denbigh's Association.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Earl of Denbigh's Association shall meet on Monday next, in the Afternoon.

Paper from the French Agent, about Ships taken by the Parliament's Ships.

Next, Two Papers from the French Agent were read, concerning Ships that have been taken by the Parliament Ships; and Ordered to be communicated to the House of Commons, with a Desire that they may be referred to the Consideration of the Committee which treat with The States Ambassadors, and report their Opinion to this House; and the Lord Admiral is hereby added to that Committee.

Message to the H. C. with it; and for the Committee of the E. of Denbigh's Association to meet.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

To desire that the Committee for the Earl of Denbigh's Association may meet (fn. 2) on Monday next, in the Afternoon.

2. To communicate the Papers from the French Resident; with a Desire that the Consideration thereof be referred to the Committee that is appointed to treat with The States Ambassadors; and that their Lordships have added the Lord Admiral to that Committee, and desire they would appoint a proportionable Number of their House.

Message from the H. C. with Votes upon a Letter from the Ld. General;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons; by Sir Henry Mildmay Knight:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in divers Votes made by the House of Commons, upon Consideration of a Letter received from the Lord General.

and with an Ordinance.

2. To desire Concurrence in an Ordinance concerning Fifteen Thousand Pounds (fn. 3) for Cloaths for the Lord General's Army. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Votes were read, as follow:

Votes for the Forces under the E. of Manchester and Sir W. Waller to join, for the Service of the West.

"1. That the Earl of Manchester's Forces and Sir Wm. Waller's be forthwith joined, for the present Service of the West."

Agreed to.

"2. That the Committee of both Kingdoms do give Order herein, and see this done accordingly."

Agreed to.

"3. That it be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, to give Order and Directions to these Forces when they are joined, in Matter and Point of Command, that they may be preserved together in Unity and good Agreement, for the best Advantage of the Public Service."

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House agrees to all the Particulars now brought up.

Answer from thence.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree in all the Desires of the Message.

Sale of Lord Herbert's Goods stayed.

Upon reading the Petition of James Heath, Servant to the Lord Herbert of Cherbury: It is Ordered, That there be Stay of any further Sale or Disposing of his Lordship's Goods in Camden House, and likewise of his Books in the Custody of the Petitioner, until the Pleasure of this House be further known, and Testimony given of his Lordship's Behaviour, touching his Carriage and Demeanour to the Parliament and their Proceedings.

Ordination of Ministers.

Next, the Ordinance for Ordination of Ministers was read the First Time.

Order for 15000 l. for Cloathing and Arms for the Ld. General's Army.

"Whereas there is to be provided Cloaths and Arms, for the Cloathing and Arming of my Lord General's Army, now at South'ton: It is Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Fifteen Thousand Pounds be paid by Alderman Towse and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise; videlicet, Five Thousand Pounds present in Hand, Five Thousand Pounds at Six Months, and other Five Thousand Pounds at Nine Months, after the Date hereof, unto Edward Ash, a Member of the House of Commons, to be paid unto the several Persons respectively, which is or shall become due for the Cloaths and Arms, as the Committee of the House of Commons appointed for the providing of the said Cloaths and Arms for the Lord General's Army shall direct and appoint; for which Fifteen Thousand Pounds, the said Commissioners are hereby authorized to reimburse themselves out of the Receipts of the Excise, in the Intervals of other Payments, with the Allowance of Eight Pounds per Cent."

Mrs. Morrell to deliver up Branfield House to Ld. Howard.

"Ordered, That Ann Morrell, Widow, shall forthwith deliver up the Possession of Branfield House, and the other Buildings and Lands, in the County of Hertford, thereunto belonging, unto the Lord Edward Howard, unto whom the Custody of the Lord Butler and his Estate are formerly committed by Order of both Houses, as by the said Order may better appear; and she is forthwith to make Satisfaction to his Lordship for all the Profits thereof yet behind and unpaid."


House adjourned till 9a, Monday next.


  • 1. Origin. Kent.
  • 2. Origin. meet to.
  • 3. Origin. from.