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Die Veneris, 14° Octobris 1831.
DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:
PRAYERS.
Robertson v. Harford & Co. & Christie.
After hearing Counsel fully in the Cause wherein James Robertson is Appellant, and Harford, Brothers and Company, and Thomas Christie, are Respondents:
It is Ordered, That the further Consideration of the said Cause be put off sine Die.
Nicol v. Sir R. W. Vaughan et al:
After hearing Counsel this Day upon the Petition and Appeal of William Nicol, the Administrator of the Goods, Chattels and Credits of George Nicol, late of Pall Mall, in the County of Middlesex, Bookseller, deceased; complaining of an Order of the Court of Chancery, of the 29th Day of June 1829, which Order was not inrolled until the 25th Day of August 1830; and praying, "That the same might be reversed or varied, or that the Appellant might have such Relief in the Premises, as to this House, in their Lordships great Wisdom, should seem meet;" as also upon the joint and several Answer of Sir Robert Williams Vaughan Baronet, John Bellenden Ker, John Bultiel, George Finch, Charles Fielding, Heneage Finch, Matilda Fielding, John Drummond and Georgiana Augusta his Wife, Lord Robert Stephen Fitzgerald and Lady Sophia Charlotte his Wife, Georgiana Matilda Drummond, Augusta Sophia Hicks and James Henry Garrety; and also the separate Answer of Sir Thomas Denman Knight, His Majesty's Attorney General, put in to the said Appeal; and due Consideration had of what was offered on either Side in this Cause:
Order in Part Reversed, & Cause remitted.
It is Ordered and Adjudged, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, in Parliament assembled, That so much of the said Order complained of as directs the Trial of certain Issues, be, and the same is hereby Reversed, and that the Appellant be allowed to withdraw his Exception to the Master's Report, on Payment of Costs: And it is further Ordered, That the Cause be remitted back to the Court of Chancery, to do therein as shall be consistent with this Judgment, and as shall be just.
Vestries Bill, Petitions of Rate Payers of St. Pancras & Marylebone in favor of, referred to the Com ee.
Upon reading the Petition of the Rate Payers of the Parish of Saint Pancras, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act for the better Regulation of Vestries; and for the Appointment of Auditors of Accounts, in certain Parishes of England and Wales;" and praying their Lordships, "That they may be heard, in behalf of themselves, in support of the Bill, before the Committee to whom the said Bill has been referred:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Select Committee to whom the said Bill stands referred.
Upon reading the Petition of Thomas Potter, a Rate Payer of the Parish of Marylebone; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships, "That he may be heard, on behalf of himself and others, in support of the same, before the Committee to whom the said Bill has been referred:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Select Committee to whom the said Bill stands referred.
Bouchier et al. v. Dillon.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein William Bouchier, and others, are Appellants, and Susanna Dillon is Respondent, be taken into further Consideration To-morrow, at Two o'Clock.
Mullins et al. v. Townsend.
Ordered, That the Cause wherein The Honorable Edward Mullins, and others, are Appellants, and John Townsend Esquire is Respondent, be taken into further Consideration To-morrow, at Two o'Clock.
Reform (England) Bill, Petitions in favor of: Lincoln:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the City, Bail and Close of Lincoln, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Havant:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Owners of Property in the Parish and Liberty, and Inhabitant Householders, of the Town of Havant, in the County of Southampton, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Stromness:
Also, Upon reading the Petition of the Magistrates, Councillors, Burgesses and Inhabitants of the Burgh of Stromness, whose Names are thereunto subscribed:
Easter Ross:
And also, Upon reading the Petition of the Farmers of Easter Ross, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of a Bill lately depending in this House, intituled, "An Act to amend the Representation of the People in England and Wales;" and severally praying their Lordships, "That the same may pass into a Law:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petitions do lie on the Table.
Aldborough, &c:
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitant Householders of the Townships of Aldborough, Roecliff, Minskip, High Dunsforth, Branton Green, Ellenthorpe, Humburton with Milby, together with the Chapelries of Boroughbridge and Low Dunsforth, within the Parish of Aldborough, in the West Riding of the County of York, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; expressing their Approval of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships, "That in case any Alteration should take place in the Boroughs of Aldborough and Boroughbridge, the Elective Franchise may be extended to the whole of the Parish of Aldborough:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Sarisbury & Swanwick.
Upon reading the Petition of the Owners and Occupiers of Lands in the Tithings of Sarisbury and Swanwick, in the Parish of Titchfield, in the County of Southampton, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying, "That their Lordships will give the same their cordial and unanimous Support, pass the same without Mutilation, and thus prove themselves worthy Descendants of our Barons of old, who have on very many Occasions proved themselves the Guardians and Restorers of the People's Rights:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Reform (England) Bill, Petition of Freemen, resident in Deal, that their Elective Franchise may be secured to them for Life.
Upon reading the Petition of the Freemen of the various Places set forth against their respective Names, now resident in Deal and its Vicinity, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to introduce into the same a Clause securing to the Petitioners for their respective Lives the inestimable Privilege of voting at the Election of Members of Parliament for the Places of which they are respectively free:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Reform of Parliament, (Scotland,) Petition of Royal Burghs of Scotland that the East of Fife District may continue to return a Member.
Upon reading the Petition of the Royal Burghs of Scotland, in Convention assembled, under their Common Seal; taking notice of the Measure for amending the Representation of the People in Scotland, and praying their Lordships "so far to alter the same as it deprives the East of Fife District of Burghs of their Privilege to return a Member as heretofore:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Poor Laws, Petition from Dublin for Introduction of, into Ireland.
Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of the City of Dublin, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships, "That a Law may, without Delay, be enacted, which shall compel all Classes of the Community, by an Assessment on Property, to contribute, in proportion to their respective Interests, to the Support of those who are of Necessity dependant on Public Charity, and thus render it the immediate Business and Interest of every Individual in this Community to lend his Aid to the Alleviation of Misery and the Prevention of Pauperism:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Warrington, &c. Railway Bill, Petitions against the Re-commitment:
Upon reading the Petition of the several Persons whose Names are thereunto subscribed, being Owners and Occupiers of Estates within the Counties Palatine of Lancaster and Chester; taking notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act to enable the Company of Proprietors of the Warrington and Newton Railway to extend the said Railway from the Termination thereof at Bank Quay, in the Parish of Warrington, in the County Palatine of Lancaster, to Norton, in the County Palatine of Chester;" and praying, "That the last Decision of their Lordships Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed, by which the same was virtually dismissed, may be respected and considered as final; and that the Petition of the Promoters of the said Bill, praying that the same may be re-committed, may be rejected:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Upon reading the Petition of the several Persons whose Names are thereunto subscribed, being Owners and Occupiers of Estates within the Counties Palatine of Lancaster and Chester; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying, "That the last Decision of their Lordships Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed may remain unaltered, and that the Bill may not be re-committed:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Motion to revive the Com ee on the Bill, withdrawn.
The Order of the Day being read for taking into Consideration the Petition of the several Persons whose Names are thereunto subscribed being Shareholders in the Warrington and Newton Railway Company, and Directors thereof, presented to the House on Thursday the 22d of September last; praying their Lordships. "That the Committee to whom the last-mentioned Bill stands committed be instructed to proceed in the Consideration of the Clauses of the same, or that if necessary, the Bill may be reported and re-committed, with such Directions as in their Lordships Judgment may seem right;" and for the Lords to be summoned;
The said Petition was read by the Clerk.
It was moved, "That the Committee to whom the said Bill stands committed be revived, and do meet Tomorrow, and that they be directed to report."
Which being objected to;
The said Motion was (by Leave of the House) withdrawn.
Slavery, Petition of Warwick Political Society for Abolition of.
Upon reading the Petition of the Members of the Political Society of the Borough of Warwick, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships to adopt such effectual Measures as will cause the immediate and total Abolition of Slavery throughout the Colonies of this Empire; and that, contemporaneously with the Decree for the Abolition of Slavery, their Lordships will make such provisional Enactments as shall to them appear necessary or expedient for protecting the White Population, if their Safety shall appear to be endangered, for promoting the Temporal Welfare and Moral Improvement of the Negroes, and, in general, for securing the Interests of all Parties who may be affected by the great Measure of Emancipation:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Diffusion of Knowledge, Petition of Warwick Political Society respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of the Members of the Warwick Political Society, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "to repeal all those Acts imposing Duties on Newspapers and cheap Publications, which violate the Rights of Englishmen, in the Interruption of affording them cheap Knowledge; and that their Lordships will be further pleased to pass a Bill of Indemnity for those already convicted and now suffering in Prison for selling cheap and unstamped Publications, by which Means their Lordships will restore to Englishmen that Privilege of which they ought never to have been deprived, namely, a full, fair and free Opportunity of a Community of Sentiment in the Circulation of cheap Knowledge, whereby the Foundations of Crime will be sapped, by the Removal of Ignorance and the extending of Information:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Poor Relief Bill, Standing Orders 26 & 155 dispensed with, & Bill passed:
The Order of the Day being read for taking into Consideration the Standing Orders No. 26 and No. 155, relative to Bills not being read or proceeded in Twice the same Day, in order to their being dispensed with upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend an Act of the Fiftyninth Year of His Majesty King George the Third, for the Relief and Employment of the Poor;" and for the Lords to be summoned;
And Consideration being had thereof accordingly;
Ordered, That the said Standing Orders be dispensed with on the said Bill.
Then the said Bill was read a Second Time.
It was moved, "That the House do now resolve itself into a Committee upon the said Bill."
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the said Bill.
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to amend an Act of the Fifty-ninth Year of His Majesty King George the Third, for the Relief and Employment of the Poor."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Wingfield and Mr. Roupell;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bill, without any Amendment.
Portugal, further Papers respecting, delivered.
The Earl Grey (by His Majesty's Commands) presented to the House, "Further Papers relative to the Affairs of Portugal (in Two Classes);" together with Lists thereof.
Which Lists were read by the Clerk as follow; (vizt.)
"Class A.
"Correspondence relative to the British Demands upon the Government of Portugal, subsequent to the 30th August 1831.
"List of Papers.
"Class B.
"Correspondence relative to the French Demands upon the Government of Portugal, subsequent to August 30th, 1831.
"List of Papers.
Ordered, That the said Papers do lie on the Table.
Report from Com ee on Office of Clerk of the Parliaments.
The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees appointed a Select Committee to consider of the Proceedings had in Execution of the Measures recommended in the Reports of the Lords Committees upon the Office of Clerk of the Parliaments, in the Sessions 1824 and 1826; and to report to the House; "That the Committee had met, and had under their Consideration an Application from Mr. Robert Harvey Strachan, late Clerk of the Inrollments and Second Writing Clerk in the Parliament Office, praying, on account of confirmed Ill-health and Infirmity, that he may be allowed some retiring Provision; and had conferred with the Clerk Assistant thereon, and had learnt that the said Mr. Strachan has been employed in the Parliament Office for the Period of Twenty-five Years; and they had also adverted to the Report from the Select Committee on the Office of Clerk of the Parliaments in the Session 1824, touching a Superannuation Allowance to the Clerks of that Office; and that the Committee had come to the following Resolution; (vizt.)
"Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That there should be paid to the said Robert Harvey Strachan, in Consideration of his Length of Service and confirmed ill State of Health and Infirmity, a retiring Provision of Two hundred and fifty Pounds per Annum, and that the said Provision should commence from the 25th of April last, and be paid to him Quarterly out of the General Fee Fund of the House of Lords."
Which Report, being read by the Clerk, was agreed to by the House; and Ordered accordingly.
Com rs of Bankrupt, Petition of D. Richardson respecting.
Upon reading the Petition of Daniel Richardson of Ironmonger Lane, in the City of London, Solicitor of the High Court of Chancery; praying their Lordships "to pass a Law which shall abolish the Fourteen Lists of Commissioners, and constitute One or more Courts by which Creditors shall be regularly examined as to the Validity of their Debts; and that the useless and expensive Appendages to such Commissions called Messengers, may also be abolished, as adding materially to the Expences of the Bankrupt's Estate, without being in any way useful:"
It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.
Barbadoes, &c. Provisions Bill, Standing Orders 26 & 155 dispensed with, & Bill passed:
The Order of the Day being read for taking into Consideration the Standing Orders No. 26 and No. 155, relative to Bills not being read or proceeded in Twice the same Day, in order to their being dispensed with upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to allow the Importation of Lumber and of Fish and Provisions Duty-free into the Islands of Barbadoes and Saint Vincent; and to indemnify the Governors and others for having permitted the Importation of those Articles Duty-free;" and for the Lords to be summoned;
And Consideration being had thereof accordingly;
Ordered, That the said Standing Orders be dispensed with on the said Bill.
Then the said Bill was read a Second Time.
It was moved, "That the House do now resolve itself into a Committee upon the said Bill."
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the said Bill.
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to allow the Importation of Lumber and of Fish and Provisions Duty-free into the Islands of Barbadoes and Saint Vincent; and to indemnify the Governors and others for having permitted the Importation of those Articles Duty-free."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bill, without any Amendment.
Galway Franchise Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to repeal so much of an Act passed in Ireland in the Fourth Year of King George the First, for the better regulating the Town of Galway and for strengthening the Protestant Interest therein, as limits the Franchise created by the said Act to Protestants only;"
The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Arms (Ireland) Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to revive, for One Year, Three Acts made in the Forty-seventh and Fiftieth Years of the Reign of His Majesty King George the Third, and in the Tenth Year of the Reign of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, for the preventing improper Persons from having Arms in Ireland; and to indemnify such Persons as may have acted in the Execution of and pursuant to the Provisions of the said Acts since the Expiration thereof;"
The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Fresh Wharf Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to enable the Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury to make a Conveyance of Fresh Wharf, in the City of London;"
The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Messages to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to the 3 preceding Bills.
And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;
To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.
Prescription Bill:
Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for shortening the Time of Prescription in certain Cases."
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;
To carry down the said Bill, and desire their Concurrence thereto.
Valuation of Lands (Ireland) Bill reported:
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to amend an Act of the Seventh Year of the Reign of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, for making Provision for the uniform Valuation of Lands and Tenements in the several Baronies, Parishes and other Divisions of Counties in Ireland, for the Purpose of the more equally levying of the Rates and Charges upon the same."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Order for 3 a.
Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.
Military Accounts (Ireland) Bill reported:
The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to repeal an Act passed in the Fiftysecond Year of the Reign of His Majesty King George the Third, to provide for the more speedy Examination, controuling and finally auditing the Military Accounts of Ireland."
After some Time, the House was resumed:
And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."
Order for 3 a.
Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.
Embankments (Ireland) Bill:
The Order of the Day being read for the Third Reading of the Bill, intituled, "An Act to empower Landed Proprietors in Ireland to sink, embank and remove Obstructions in Rivers;"
It was moved, "That the said Bill be now read the Third Time."
Which being objected to;
The Question was put thereupon?
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
The said Bill was accordingly read the Third Time.
The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendments, shall pass?"
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;
To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same, with some Amendments, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.
Hop Duties Bill read 2 a & committed:
Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to regulate the Payment of the Duties on Hops."
Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Ordered, That the House be put into a Committee upon the said Bill To-morrow.
Standing Orders 26 & 155 to be considered on it.
Ordered, That the Standing Orders No. 26 and No. 155, relative to Bills not being read or proceeded in Twice the same Day, be taken into Consideration To-morrow, in order to their being dispensed with upon the lastmentioned Bill; and that the Lords be summoned.
The King's Answer to Address.
The Earl of Shaftesbury (in the Absence of the Lords with White Staves) reported, "That they had (according to Order) waited on His Majesty with their Lordships Address of the 5th of this instant October; and that His Majesty was pleased to receive the same very graciously, and to say, He would give Directions accordingly."
Vestries Bill, Standing Orders 26 & 155 to be considered.
Ordered, That the Standing Orders No. 26 and No. 155, relative to Bills not being read or proceeded in Twice the same Day, be taken into Consideration To-morrow, in order to their being dispensed with upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for the better Regulation of Vestries; and for the Appointment of Auditors of Accounts, in certain Parishes of England and Wales;" and that the Lords be summoned.
Distillation (Ireland) Bill brought from H.C. and read 1 a:
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Bernal and others;
With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to consolidate and amend the Laws for suppressing the illicit making of Malt and Distillation of Spirits in Ireland;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
The said Bill was read the First Time.
Ordered, That the said Bill be read a Second Time To-morrow.
Standing Orders 26 & 155 to be considered on it.
Ordered, That the Standing Orders No.26 and No. 155, relative to Bills not being read or proceeded in Twice the same Day, be taken into Consideration To-morrow, in order to their being dispensed with upon the lastmentioned Bill; and that the Lords be summoned.
Adjourn.
Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Sabbati, decimum quintum diem instantis Octobris, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.