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House of Lords Journal Volume 64: 6 April 1832

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 64, 1831-1832. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, [n.d.].

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Die Veneris, 6° Aprilis 1832.

DOMINI tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Dux Cumberland.
Archiep. Cantuar.
Ds. Brougham & Vaux, Cancellarius.
Archiep. Armacan.
Epus. Bath. et Well.
Epus. Lich. et Cov.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Bristol.
Epus. Glocestr.
Epus. Exon.
Epus. Cicestrien.
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Ds. Dacre.
Ds. Stourton.
Ds. Howard of Effingham.
Ds. Howard de Walden.
Ds. Petre.
Ds. Saye & Sele.
Ds. Teynham.
Ds. Stafford.
Ds. Gower.
Ds. Saltoun.
Ds. Colville of Culross.
Ds. Belhaven & Stenton.
Ds. Hay.
Ds. King.
Ds. Holland.
Ds. Sundridge & Hamilton.
Ds. Foley.
Ds. Montagu.
Ds. Suffield.
Ds. Kenyon.
Ds. Douglas of Douglas.
Ds. Auckland.
Ds. Mendip.
Ds. Selsey.
Ds. Dundas.
Ds. Carrington.
Ds. Lilford.
Ds. Redesdale.
Ds. Ellenborough.
Ds. Arden.
Ds. Mont Eagle.
Ds. Ponsonby of Imokilly.
Ds. Lynedoch.
Ds. Meldrum.
Ds. Clanbrassill.
Ds. Maryborough.
Ds. Ravensworth.
Ds. Delamere.
Ds. Bexley.
Ds. Somerhill.
Ds. Lyndhurst.
Ds. Fife.
Ds. Plunket.
Ds. Stuart de Rothesay.
Ds. Rosebery.
Ds. Clanwilliam.
Ds. Skelmersdale.
Ds. Wallace.
Ds. Fingall.
Ds. Sefton.
Ds. Clements.
Ds. Dover.
Ds. Chaworth.
Ds. Howden.
Ds. Panmure.
Ds. Oakley.
Ds. Dinorben.
Ds. Cloncurry.
March Lansdowne, Præses.
Dux Devonshire, Camerarius.
Dux Richmond.
Dux Brandon.
Dux Newcastle.
Dux Wellington.
March. Queensberry.
March. Salisbury.
March. Bute.
March. Thomond.
March. Exeter.
March. Camden.
March. Cholmondeley.
March. Westmeath.
March. Bristol.
March. Cleveland.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Westmorland.
Comes Winchilsea & Nottingham.
Comes Shaftesbury.
Comes Plymouth.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Poulett.
Comes Selkirk.
Comes Oxford & Mortimer.
Comes Tankerville.
Comes Guilford.
Comes De Lawarr.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Bathurst.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Digby.
Comes Mansfield.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Malmesbury.
Comes Charlemont.
Comes Longford.
Comes Wicklow.
Comes Caledon.
Comes Rosslyn.
Comes Chichester.
Comes Limerick.
Comes Gosford.
Comes Grey.
Comes Lonsdale.
Comes Harewood.
Comes Brownlow.
Comes Morley.
Comes Glengall.
Comes Falmouth.
Comes Howe.
Comes Vane.
Comes Camperdown.
Vicecom. Leinster.
Vicecom. Maynard.
Vicecom. Sydney.
Vicecom. Hood.
Vicecom. Lorton.
Vicecom. Gordon.
Vicecom. Beresford.
Vicecom. Goderich.
Ds. Wellesley, Senescallus.
Ds. Melbourne, Unus Primariorum Secretariorum.
Ds. Audley.

PRAYERS.

The Earl of Shaftesbury sat Speaker by virtue of a former Commission.

Wells Gas Light Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for lighting with Gas the City or Borough of Wells, in the County of Somerset, the Liberty of Saint Andrew, and Suburbs of the said City or Borough."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Trower and Mr. Farrer;

To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bill, without any Amendment.

Bridgewater & Taunton Canal Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to explain and amend Two Acts, of the Fifty-first Year of His late Majesty King George the Third and the Fifth Year of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, relative to the Bridgewater and Taunton Canal Navigation."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendments, shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To return the said Bill, and acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the same, with several Amendments, to which their Lordships desire their Concurrence.

Tamworth Roads Bill.

The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for maintaining several Roads leading to and from the Town of Tamworth, in the Counties of Stafford and Warwick," was committed; "That they had considered the said Bill, and examined the Allegations thereof, which were found to be true; and that the Committee had gone through the Bill, and made some Amendments thereto."

Which Amendments were read by the Clerk as follow; (vizt.)

"Pr. 7. L. 2. & L. 3. Leave out ("Commencement") and insert ("passing")

"Pr. 17. L. penult. Leave out from ("others") to the End of the Bill."

And the said Amendments, being read a Second Time, were agreed to by the House.

5th Report from Appeal Com ee.

The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Lords Committees appointed to consider of the Causes in which Prints of the Parties Cases, now depending in this House upon Appeals and Writs of Error, have not been delivered, pursuant to the Standing Orders of this House; and of other Matters relating thereto; and to report to the House; and to whom were referred certain Petitions in the following Causes; Sir Charles Cockerell Baronet against Cholmeley; Lady Laura Tollemache against George William Earl of Coventry; Houlditch against George Augustus Marquess of Donegal; and George Augustus Marquess of Donegal against Salt; "That the Committee had met, and considered the Respondent's Petition in the Cause Sir Charles Cockerell Baronet and others against Cholmeley, praying their Lordships to appoint this Cause to be heard on the next Day for hearing Appeals, or such early Day in the present Session as may suit the Convenience of the House; and had heard the Agents thereon, and the Committee are of Opinion, That the said Cause should be appointed to be heard on the first Day for hearing English Appeals after the Recess at Easter: That the Committee had also considered the Respondents Petition in the Cause Lady Laura Tollemache against George William Earl of Coventry and another, praying their Lordships to permit their Case to be lodged; and had heard the Respondents Agent thereon, and the Committee are of Opinion, That the Petitioners may be allowed now to deliver in their printed Cases: That the Committee had also considered the Respondent's Petition in the Cause Houlditch and others against George Augustus Marquess of Donegal, praying their Lordships to discharge the Order of the House of the 31st of January 1832 (for answering the Appeal) with Costs; and had heard the Agents thereon, and the Committee are of Opinion, That the Prayer of the said Petition ought not to be complied with: That the Committee had also considered a further Petition of the Respondent in the last-mentioned Cause, praying their Lordships for Eight Weeks further Time to prepare his printed Case, without Prejudice to the last-mentioned Petition; and had heard the Agents thereon, and the Committee are of Opinion, That the Petitioner may be allowed a Month's further Time to deliver in his printed Case: And that the Committee had also considered the Respondents Petition in the Cause George Augustus Marquess of Donegal against Salt and others, praying their Lordships, that the Order of the House, of the 1st Day of March last, requiring the Petitioners to answer the Appeal within Five Weeks, may be discharged, and the said Appeal dismissed; and had heard the Agents thereon, and the Committee are of Opinion, That the Prayer of the said Petition ought not to be complied with."

Which Report, being read by the Clerk, was agreed to by the House; and Ordered accordingly.

Crowder v. Watson et al. Appellant's Petition to enter into a Recogce in Scotland, referred to Appeal Com ee.

Upon reading the Petition of Mrs. Elizabeth Rebecca Crowder or Turnley, Appellant in a Cause depending in this House, to which James Watson, and others, are Respondents; setting forth, "That the Petitioner, on the 5th Day of March last, presented her Appeal to their Lordships against certain Judgments of the Court of Session in Scotland, pronounced in an Action of Suspension and Liberation at her Instance, in which the above Respondents were opposing Parties: That the Petitioner is now detained a Prisoner in the Jail of Glasgow by virtue of the Judgments now under Appeal, and she is consequently unable (although willing and anxious) to attend their Lordships for the Purpose of entering into Recognizances for Costs;" and therefore praying, "That their Lordships will be pleased to order that the Petitioner may have Leave to enter into Recognizances in Scotland, or make such other Order as the Exigency of the Case may seem to require, and as to their Lordships shall seem meet:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition be referred to the Appeal Committee.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure.

The House was resumed by The Lord Chancellor.

Education, (Ireland,) Petitions against proposed Plan: (Measham:)

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Measham, Derbyshire, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "no longer to sanction any System of Education in Ireland in which there is the smallest Restriction whatever on the free Use of the Scriptures, the Petitioners regarding it as abhorrent to the very first Principles of Protestantism:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Ipswich:

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Ipswich, in the County of Suffolk, and its Vicinity, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships to refuse their Sanction to every Plan proposed as a System of National Education for Ireland which is not founded on the entire Word of God, and which does not admit of the free and general Use of the Holy Scriptures amongst all Descriptions of His Majesty's faithful and loyal Subjects:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Rushmere:

Upon reading the Petition of the Minister and Parishioners of the Parish of Rushmere, in the County of Suffolk, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "not to withhold from Ireland the Blessing of a Religious Education founded upon the unadulterated and entire Word of God:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Tuttingstone.

Upon reading the Petition of the Inhabitants of Tuttingstone, in the County of Suffolk, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "not to sanction the Plan of Education of the Poor of Ireland proposed by His Majesty's Ministers:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Largs Harbour Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Michael Shaw Stewart and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for constructing and maintaining a Pier or Harbour at Largs, in the County of Ayr;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Belfast Railway Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Ruthven and others;

To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for making and maintaining a Railway from the Cave-Hill to the Harbour of Belfast, in the County of Antrim;" and to acquaint this House, That they have agreed to their Lordships Amendments made thereto.

Chester Bridge Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Dixon and others;

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act for extending the Time for completing the additional Bridge over the River Dee, in the City of Chester;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

The said Bill was read the First Time.

Cholera Prevention (Scotland) Amendment Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for altering and amending an Act passed in the present Session of Parliament, for the Prevention, as far as may be possible, of the Disease called the Cholera, or Spasmodic or Indian Cholera, in Scotland."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Marine Mutiny Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for the Regulation of His Majesty's Royal Marine Forces while on Shore."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordnance Department Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to extend and render more effectual Two Acts of the First and Second and Third Years of His late Majesty King George the Fourth, respecting the Estates thereby vested in the principal Officers of the Ordnance; and to facilitate the Public Business in the Ordnance Department."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Messages to H.C. that the Lords have agreed to the 3 preceding Bills.

And Messages were, severally, sent to the House of Commons, by the former Messengers;

To acquaint them, That the Lords have agreed to the said Bills, without any Amendment.

Consolidated Fund Bill reported:

The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to apply the Sum of Three Millions, out of the Consolidated Fund, to the Service of the Year One thousand eight hundred and thirty-two."

After some Time, the House was resumed:

And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

Order for 3 a.

Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.

Mutiny Bill reported:

The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for punishing Mutiny and Desertion, and for the better Payment of the Army and their Quarters."

After some Time, the House was resumed:

And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

Order for 3 a.

Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.

Coin Laws Consolidation Bill.

The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act for consolidating and amending the Laws against Offences relating to the Coin."

After some Time, the House was resumed:

And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

Ordered, That the said Bill be ingrossed.

Malt Drawback Bill reported:

The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to reduce the Allowance on Spirits made from Malt only in Scotland and Ireland."

After some Time, the House was resumed:

And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

Order for 3 a.

Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.

Petitions from Kincardineshire & Aberdeenshire against it.

Upon reading the Petition of the Landholders, Commissioners of Supply, and Justices of the Peace of the County of Kincardine, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships "not to alter the Distillery Law which passed in 1823, and has been found practically successful, until a Case of obvious Expediency and Necessity has been established to justify the Alteration; and that the said Bill may not be passed into a Law:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Upon reading the Petition of the Landholders, Commissioners of Supply, and Justices of Peace of the County of Aberdeen, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships, "That the same may not be passed into a Law:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Reform (England) Bill, Petitions from Cheshire & R. Oram against.

Upon reading the Petition of the Gentry, Clergy and Freeholders of the County of Chester, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; taking notice of a Bill depending in this House, intituled, "An Act to amend the Representation of the People in England and Wales;" and praying their Lordships, "as they value our ancient Institutions, the equal Balance of the Three Estates of the Realm, the Security of the Throne and the Welfare of the Kingdom, to reject the said Bill:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Upon reading the Petition of Robert Oram of Kennington, Gentleman; taking notice of the last-mentioned Bill, and praying their Lordships "not to pass the same into a Law, without either raising the £10 Household Clause in Towns containing Thirty thousand Inhabitants and upwards, or giving to the Renters of £25 Houses in such Towns the Right of Two Votes; and either entirely to expunge from the Bill the Clause proposing to give Members to the Metropolitan District, or to amend the same in the Manner following; vizt. by giving to the Occupant of a £10 House One Vote, to the Occupant of a £25 House Two Votes, and to the Occupant of a £50 House and upwards Three Votes:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Beer Act, Petition from Cheadle for Repeal of.

Upon reading the Petition of the Minister and Inhabitants of Cheadle in Staffordshire, whose Names are thereunto subscribed; praying their Lordships "speedily to repeal so much of the Act for permitting the general Sale of Beer by Retail as permits Beer to be drunk on the Premises where sold; and to give the Magistrates as much discretionary Power in licensing and regulating Beer Shops as they have over other Public Houses:"

It is Ordered, That the said Petition do lie on the Table.

Indemnity Bill reported:

The House (according to Order) was adjourned during Pleasure, and put into a Committee upon the Bill, intituled, "An Act to indemnify such Persons in the United Kingdom as have omitted to qualify themselves for Offices and Employments, and for extending the Time limited for those Purposes respectively until the Twenty-fifth Day of March One thousand eight hundred and thirty-three; to permit such Persons in Great Britain as have omitted to make and file Affidavits of the Execution of Indentures of Clerks to Attornies and Solicitors to make and file the same on or before the First Day of Hilary Term One thousand eight hundred and thirty-three; and to allow Persons to make and file such Affidavits, although the Persons whom they served shall have neglected to take out their Annual Certificates."

After some Time, the House was resumed:

And The Earl of Shaftesbury reported from the Committee, "That they had gone through the Bill, and directed him to report the same to the House, without any Amendment."

Order for 3 a.

Ordered, That the said Bill be read the Third Time To-morrow.

Parliamentary Representation, Paper respecting, delivered.

The Lord President, by His Majesty's Command, presented to the House,

"A List of the One hundred and ten smallest Boroughs, arranged according to the Number of Houses and the Amount of Assessed Taxes."

And the Title thereof being read by the Clerk;

Ordered, That the said Paper do lie on the Table.

Ordered, That the said Paper be printed.

Address of Magistrates, &c. of Westmeath to The Ld. Lieutenant of Ireland, &c. Address for Copy of.

The Order of the Day being read for the Lords to be summoned;

It was moved, "That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to request that His Majesty will be graciously pleased to order that there be laid before this House, "A Copy of the Address of the Magistrates and Governor of the County of Westmeath presented to The Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and His Excellency's Reply thereto."

After Debate,

The Question was put thereupon?

It was resolved in the Affirmative.

Ordered, That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, to request that His Majesty will be graciously pleased to order that there be laid before this House, "A Copy of the Address of the Magistrates and Governor of the County of Westmeath presented to The Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and His Excellency's Reply thereto."

Ordered, That the said Address be presented to His Majesty by the Lords with White Staves.

Giles v. Grover & Pollard.

Ordered, That the Cause wherein Daniel Giles Esquire is Plaintiff, and Harry Grover and James Pollard are Defendants, be taken into further Consideration on the 14th of this instant April; and that the Judges do then attend to deliver their Opinions upon the Questions of Law propounded to them on the 4th of July last.

Doe v. Hicks.

Ordered, That the Cause wherein John Doe, on the several Demises of Francis Hearle and others, is Plaintiff, and Susanna Jemima Hicks is Defendant, be taken into further Consideration on the 14th of this instant April; and that the Judges do then attend to deliver their Opinion upon the Question of Law propounded to them on the 6th of July 1831.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Sabbati, septimum diem instantis Aprilis, horâ undecimâ Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.