House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 9 October 1644

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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Die Mercurii, 9 die Octobris.

Prayers, by Mr. Bowles.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Berkley.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech, &c. sent with a Message to the House of Commons on Monday last, return with this Answer:

That they will take the Propositions for Peace into Consideration speedily.

Absent Lords excused.

The Earl of Northumb. and the Lord North were excused for being absent from the House this Day, in regard of their ill Health.

Alderman Atkins; Lord Mayor Elect, presented.

This Day Mr. Alderman Atkins, accompanied with Mr. Recorder of London, the Sheriffs of London, and divers Aldermen, were called in.

And Mr. Recorder made a Speech to this Effect; That the City of London having made Choice of Mr. Alderman Atkins to be Lord Mayor for the Year ensuing, who is a Man of great Faithfulness and Integrity, and hath endured the Trial of the worst Times; and, in Pursuance of their Charters of King John and H. III, they do present him to their Lordships, in Absence of the King's Person, for to receive Approbation: Therefore he was commanded, by the City of London, in their Name, humbly to desire the Favour of this High Court, to give Approbation of their Choice, for Mr. Alderman Atkins to be Lord Mayor for the next (fn. 1) Year; and that their Lordships would please to continue their good Affections to the City; and they are Resolved to live and die with the Honourable Houses of Parliament."

This being done, they withdrew; and the House appointed that the Earls of Sarum and Denbigh, and the Lord Wharton, should presently withdraw, and consider what Answer was fit to be returned, by Way of Approbation of the Lord (fn. 1) Mayor Elect; and to give the City Thanks for their good Affections expressed to the Parliament.

Message from the H. C. with Orders, &c.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Mr. Holles and others; which consisted of divers Particulars, wherein they desire their Lordships Concurrence:

1. An Order to give One Hundred Pounds to Ben. Vallentine Esquire. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. An Ordinance concerning Rutlandshire.

3. An Order for laying a Tax on the East Part of North'tonshire. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

4. An Order for Five Hundred Pounds to be paid to the Waggon-master General, out of the Excise.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

5. An Order to pay Monies to Sir John Temple. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

6. An Order for paying Two Thousand Four Hundred Pounds, out of the Excise, for the Western Affairs.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

7. That Colonel Devereux be added to the Committee of Wilts.

Agreed to.

The Answer returned:


That this House will take these Particulars into Consideration, and send (fn. 2) an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Ordinance concerning Rutland.

The Ordinance concerning the County of Rutland was read Twice, and Ordered to be committed to these Lords following; and that the Country be heard concerning this Ordinance, (fn. 1) and report the same to this House. And the Gentlemen of that County to be heard concerning this Ordinance:

Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Denbigh.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Bruce.

Any Three, to meet on Friday come Sevennight.

Deputy Lieutenants for Northumberland, &c.

Ordered, That this House thinks it fit that these Persons following be made Deputy Lieutenants:

Sir John Fennick Knight and Baronet,
Sir John Delavale,
Sir Wm. Selby,
Wm. Fennicke of Wallington Esquire,
Ralph Delavale of Seaton,
Sir Thomas Widrington,
Mr. Michaell Welden,
Sir Rob't Jackson,
Sir Arthur Haselrigg,
For Northumb.
Henry Warmouth Esquire, For Newcastle.
John Sleigh Mayor, For the Port of Barwicke.
Sir Rob't Jackson,

Message to the H. C. in Answer to the rs;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:

1. To let them know, that this House agrees to all the Particulars of the last Message, excepting the Ordinance for Rutlandshire; concerning which, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

and with the Deputy Lieutenants Names.

2. To desire their Concurrence in the aforesaid Deputy Lieutenants for Northumb. Newcastle, and Barwicke.

The Earl of Denbigh reported from the Committee the Answer to be returned to the City, concerning the Approbation of the Election of the Lord Mayor of London; which, being read, was approved of.

And then the Lord Mayor Elect with his Company were called in again; and the Speaker read the Answer to them, as followeth:

The Answer of Approbation of Mr. Alderman Atkins to be Lord Mayor.

"We have always been very sensible of the Readiness of this City to engage their Lives and Fortunes, in these Times of Distraction, for the Support and Maintenance of the Parliament; and therefore cannot but with Alacrity and great Satisfaction receive and approve that Choice, which, besides the Value of your Election and Recommendation, comes likewise accompanied with many Advantages of Merit in his Person: And as, both by former Precedent and an inherent Right, in the King's Absence and unhappy Separation from His Parliament, this Privilege of Approbation belongs unto this High Court, their Lordships do hereby congratulate with them their worthy Choice; and whereas the said City hath declared themselves so willing to live and die with this High Court, their Lordships do return them hearty Thanks, with this Assurance, that the Hazards wherein their Lordships have and do so readily expose their Lives and Fortunes shall no ways divert them from the said Engagements, in relation not only to the Discharge of their Duties to the whole Kingdom in general, but to express their particular Care of this City, for their abundant Demonstrations of Love and Respect to this House."

Hartstongue, for searching the Countess of Peterborough's House.

This Day Henry Hartstounge was brought to the Bar, to produce his Warrant by which he searched the Countess of Peterborough's House, and broke open some Doors; which is a Breach of the Privilege of Parliament, she being a Peeress.

And he produced a Warrant under Miles Corbett Esquire, of the Committee of Examinations, to give him Power to search for the Goods of the Earl of Corke.

But it appearing to this House, by the Testimony upon Oath of Margery Williams and Anthony Keyne, That they told the said Hartstounge, that it was the Countess of Peterborough's House, and that no Goods were therein but her own proper Goods:" Hereupon this House conceived it to be a Breach of the Privilege of a Peer.

And, because the said Hartstounge is a Servant employed by a Committee of the House of Commons, Ordered, (fn. 3) To consider of this Business on Friday Morning next; at which (fn. 4) Time, Precedents are to be searched, to see what hath been done in the like Nature, and then the said Hartstounge is to appear again.

Prynn's Cause.

Ordered, That Mr. Prynn's Business shall be heard on Saturday Morning next.

Order for 100 l. to Mr. Valentine.

"Whereas Benjamine Valentine Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons, who hath suffered long Imprisonment for his Affection to the Public, is hindered by the Enemy from receiving any Profit of his Estate, in the County of Chester, whereby he is deprived of a Livelihood, and is at this present in very great Want: It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That One Hundred Pounds shall be allowed unto the said Mr. Valentine, for his present Subsistence, out of the Sequestrations in Westm.; and the Committee of Sequestrations in Westm. are hereby authorized to pay the said Mr. Valentine One Hundred Pounds accordingly, out of the First Monies that shall arise out of the Proceed of the said Sequestrations."

Order for assessing the East Division of Northamptonshire.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons now assembled in Parliament, That Threescore Pounds by the Week, over and above the Weekly Tax imposed upon the whole County of Northampton by the late Ordinance, shall be laid equally and indifferently upon the several Hundreds of the East Division of the County aforesaid; and shall be employed towards the maintaining a Troop of Horse, for the Security of the said East Division, and the Service of Rockingham Castle, [ (fn. 4) as the Committee] for the County of Northampton shall direct; and this to continue the Space of Six Months, and till the Parliament shall give further Order."

Order for 500 l. to the Waggon master General, out of the Excise.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Commissioners of Excise do forthwith advance Five Hundred Pounds, upon Accompt, to the Waggon-master General, for the convoying of the Train of Artillery and other Necessaries to my Lord General's Army; and that the said Five Hundred Pounds be deducted out of the next Month's Pay to my Lord General's Army."

Order for Money to Sir John Temple, lent to the Committees in Ireland.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That so much of the Four Hundred and Fifty Pounds lent by Sir John Temple, to Mr. Robert Reynolds and Mr. Robert Goodwin, and to Mr. Norris and Mr. Smith, in Ireland, for the Service of the Parliament, as shall appear to the Commissioners of the new Excise to be due and unpaid, shall be paid and satisfied out of the Monies that shall arise upon the Ordinance for the new Excise."

Order for 2400 l. for Dorsetshire.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That Two Thousand Four Hundred Pounds be advanced and paid, by the Commissioners of Excise, to such as the Committee of Lords and Commons for the Safety of the Western associated Counties shall appoint to receive the same, to be disposed of to the Garrisons of Dorsettshire, in such Manner as the said Committee shall direct and appoint."


House adjourned till 9a, Friday next.


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