House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 30 September 1644

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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Anno 20° Caroli Regis, 1644.

DIE Lunæ, 30 die Septembris.

Prayers, by Mr. Bridge.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
L. Admiral.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Suffolke.
Ds. North.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Berkley.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page, sent on Saturday last with a Message to the House of Commons, return with this Answer:

That they agree to the Alterations and Provisos in the Ordinances concerning the Horses to be raised for recruiting the Lord General's Army; and the Money to be employed for supplying Sir Tho. Middleton's Forces. (Here enter them.) And they do agree also in granting a Pass to the Earl of Exeter, to travel into France.

L. Maynard took the Covenant.

This Day the Lord Maynard took and subscribed the National Covenant.

Lady Douglas's Petition.

Ordered, That the Defendants to the Petition of the Lady Eleanor Douglas shall have a Copy of the said Petition; and return their Answer to this (fn. 1) House by this Day Sevennight.

Order about Carts going through Dean's Yard.

The Earl of Kent reported, "That the Committee have considered of the Order of Carts going through The Deane's Yard; and they find it inconvenient to have Carts come through The Deane's Yard; and informed, that there is an ancient Way for Carts to go about by Tuttle Fields: And the Committee thinks it fit, that the Order stands good against Carts coming through The Ould Pallace; and that the Order be taken off for permitting Carts to come through The Deane's Yard; and that the Carts shall go the ancient Way."

Which this House approved of, and Ordered the same accordingly.

E. of Thanet's Sequestration, &c.

Ordered, That the Earls of Pembrooke, Rutland, and Sarum, the Lord North, Lord Willoughby, and the Lord Howard, or any Three of them, are appointed to take into Consideration the Business of the Earl or Thanett, and report to this House what they think fit to (fn. 2) be done in the Cafe of his Fine and Sequestration, being a Member of Parliament, and a Peer of the Realm; and what is fit to be done for the Honour of this House, and the Right of Peerage, and for the Right and Relief of the said Earl of Thanett.

Ordination of Ministers.

Next, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to take into Consideration the Ordinance for Ordination of Ministers.

The House being resumed, the said Ordination was read, with some Alterations and a Proviso, and agreed to with the said Alterations and Proviso.

L. Paget to remain in his Mother's House.

The House was informed, "That the Lord Pagett, having formerly rendered himself to the Lord General, is now come to London to his Mother's House, and is ready to submit to what this House shall Order concerning him."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That the Lord Pagett shall continue at the House of the Lady Paget; where now he is, until the further Pleasure of this House be signified.

Message from the H. C. with Ordinances.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others:

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in divers Ordinances:

1. An Ordinance to give Power to Colonel Fiennes to take, out of several Towns about Banbury, Pioneers, for the Service of the Town of Banbury, &c. (Here enter it.)

Read Thrice, and Agreed to.

The rest of the Orders not now read.

The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning the Pioneers; to the rest of the Particulars, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Better Attendance on this House.

Ordered, That the First Business to be taken into Consideration on Tuesday Morning shall be, to consider of some Course for the better Attendance upon this House.

Message to the H. C. about the Ordination of Ministers.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

To desire their Concurrence in the Alterations and Proviso in the Ordinance for Ordaining of Ministers.

Order for recruiting the Lord General's Army with Horses.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That such Persons as shall be employed by the Earl of Essex Lord General, under his Hand and Seal, shall be authorized, and have hereby Power, to raise Eleven Hundred Horses, whereof Five Hundred to recruit the Troops and Six Hundred for Draught Horses for the Train of Artillery within the Counties of Berks, Oxon, Hants, Wilts, Dorsett, Som'sett, Devon, or otherwhere upon his March: Provided, That no Horse of any Member of either House of Parliament, or any Assistant of the House of Peers, or any Attendant of either House of Parliament, shall be taken or seized upon by virtue of this Ordinance, or any Thing herein contained; any Thing in this Ordinance contained to the contrary in any Wife notwithstanding: And such Persons as the Lord General shall appoint to raise the said Number of Horses are to give a Note in Writing unto each Party from whom a Horse shall be taken, of the Value, Colour, and Mark of the Horse, testifying likewise that the Party is to repair unto the Committee of that County, where, upon Proof of the Value, he shall receive Satisfaction; and whosoever shall do contrary, shall suffer Death; and such Persons as shall be so appointed to raise Horses are to make Return unto the Earl of Essex Lord General, of what Horses they have raised, and from what Parties, and in what Parishes, who is to return the same unto the Committees of the Country; not above Two Horses to be taken out of a Team, and the Mark-master of the Army is to mark them as they are brought in; and likewise the Commissioners of the Lord General's Army are to see these Rules observed, and to hear Complaints thereupon; and if any, appointed by the Lord General as aforesaid to take Horses, shall take any Money for sparing of any Horses, or releasing any Horses being taken, shall, upon Proof, be cashiered ipso facto, and be subject to such further Punishment as the Lord General shall think fit."

Colonel Fiennes & al. to take Pioneers for the Siege of Banbury.

"It is this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, &c. That Colonel Fienns, Colonel Boswell, Colonel Wetham, Lieutenant Colonel Ferrar, and Major Lidcutt, now employed in the Siege at Banbury, shall have Power to take, out of all the Towns within Ten Miles of Banbury, proportionably, such Number of Workmen for Pioneers, as they shall think fit.

"This Order to continue Forty Days, and no longer."

Order for 300 l. for Sir Thomas Middleton's Forces, out of Money given for the Repair of St. Paul's.

"Whereas the County of Lancaster hath been of late exceedingly wasted by the Enemy, and during such Time as they were Masters of the Field the Forces of that County had no Contribution or Relief, by Means whereof they are now in a great deal of Misery and Want; and whereas the Forces under the Command of Sir Thomas Middleton are likewise in Distress, because they are not yet able to settle in North Wales, out of which they are to be maintained: All which being taken into Consideration, the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament do Order and Ordain, That all such Monies as have been given to the Repair of Paules, that shall be discovered unto the Committee of the House of Commons for Examinations to remain unpaid, not exceeding the Sum of Three Thousand Pounds, shall be forthwith paid unto Thomas Stone, Andrew Middleton, John Langley, and James Wainewright, Citizens of London, for the Use of the said Forces; and an Acquittance under their Hands, or any Two of them, shall be a full Discharge unto all Executors and other Persons paying the same, who are hereby acquitted, and shall be saved harmless, from the Receivers of Paules, or any other Person or Persons, for all such Sum or Sums of Money as they shall pay as aforesaid; and the said Thomas Stone, Andrew Middleton, John Langley, and James Wainewright, and every of them, shall forthwith pay all such Sum and Sums of Money as they shall receive by virtue of this Ordinance, the One Moiety to Colonel William Barton for the Use of Sir Thomas Middleton, for the Service of North Wales, and the other Moiety unto Humfrey Cheeton Esquire, Treasurer of the said County of Lancaster, who shall issue the same (as all other Monies he doth receive for the Forces of the said County) by Warrant under the Hands of Six Deputy Lieutenants of the County at the least, whereof One or more to be a Member of the House of Commons, to be equally disposed unto all Soldiers there now in Arms: And it is further Ordered and Ordained, That the Public Faith of this Kingdom shall be engaged, for the Re-payment, at the End of Six Months after the Date of this Ordinance, of all such Sums of Money as shall be received by virtue of this Ordinance, unto the said Repair of Paules; and whatsoever any Person or Persons shall do in Pursuance of this Ordinance, they shall be saved harmless by the Power and Authority of both Houses of Parliament.

"Provided always, That this Ordinance shall not extend to any Person or Persons whatsoever, who have promised to give or pay, or have subscribed the giving or paying, of any Sum of Money for or towards the Repair of Paules Church, nor to any Sum of Money so promised or subscribed for; any Thing in this Ordinance to the contrary notwithstanding."


House adjourned till 9a cras.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.