House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 8 July 1645

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Martis, 8 die Julii.

PRAYERS, by Doctor Temple.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Essex.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Suffolke.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Nottingham.
Ds. North.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Wharton.

The Earl of Warwicke reported from the Committee of both Kingdoms, as follows:

"Die Lunæ, 7 Julii, 1645.

Petition from Bedfordshire, against the Fort at Bedford being demolished.

"At the Committee of both Kingdoms, at Derby House.

"Ordered, That the Petition of the Gentlemen of Bedfordshire, concerning the slighting of the Fort at Bedford, be reported to both Houses.

"The Petition:

"To the Right Honourable the Committee for the Safety of both Kingdoms.

"The humble Petition of divers well-affected of the Town and County of Bedford, in the Behalf of themselves, and many others, who, in regard of the Shortness of the Time, could not be present;

"Humbly sheweth,

"That the Petitioners have often earnestly solicited the Committee of the County, that we may be put into a Posture of Defence, that the Fort in Bedford may be continued, we associated with our neighbouring Counties, and that all Officers might be chosen that are truely affected to the State; all which they have formerly promised: Notwithstanding which, Warrants were issued out by some of the Committee, for the demolishing of the Fort, and a great Number of the ill-affected appeared, and had accomplished it accordingly, had not Sir Tho. Alston timely prevented it: Now, in regard the Enemy came to Fenny Stratford, Nine or Ten Miles distant from Bedford, robbing divers Carrlers and Passengers, coming to the Fair at Woolborne July the 3d, being the Day before the Fort should have been demolished, we apprehending ourselves in great Danger in these Parts by the slighting of the said Fort;

"The humble Desire of the Petitioners is, That the said Fort may (fn. 1) remain (being the most fit Place for the Magazine of the County † of the Committee and major Part of the County) until we can apply ourselves in a more general Way.

"Jo. Eston,

"Jo. Geewe, &c."

Ordered, That this Petition be sent to the House of Commons.

French Minister to have Audience.

The House was informed, "That the French Agent hath writ a Letter to the Master of Ceremonies, to desire that he may have Audience from both Houses of Parliament, having some Business of Importance to deliver from his Master."

And this House thought it fit that this Answer should be returned to him: "That this House will be ready to receive in the same Manner as formerly was resolved by the Houses; or else the Committee of both Houses for Foreign Affairs will be ready to receive what he hath to say:" And that the House of Commons be made acquainted with this Desire of the French Agent, with the Opinion of this House upon his Desire.

Ogle's Petition, to be released on Condition of going beyond Sea.

Upon reading the Petition of John Ogle Esquire; to desire "he may have Releasement from his Imprisonment, and go beyond the Seas into Holland, according to his former Request to this House:" It is Ordered, That this Petition be sent to the House of Commons.

Message to the H. C. about giving Audience to the French Minister;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Serjeant Fynch and Mr. Serjeant Whitfield:

1. To acquaint them, that the Lords having received the Letter of the French Agent, written to the Master of the Ceremonies, their Lordships are very willing that he be received in the Houses, if he think fit to come in such a Manner as was formerly agreed by both Houses; or, if he think fit to come to the joint Committee for Foreign Affairs, he shall be there received with Respect, and be heard what he hath to say, and report the same to the Houses; and to desire the Concurrence of the House of Commons herein.

about supplying the Scots Army;

2. To put them in Mind of supplying the Scottch Army with those Necessaries mentioned in their Paper.

about Lady Haddington's Pass;

3. To desire their Concurrence, for the Lady Haddington to go beyond the Seas, with those Horses, Custom-free, and those Servants as she desires.

with the Petition about Bedford Fort, &c.

4. To deliver to them the Petition concerning the Fort at Bedford.

5. To put them in Mind of the Ordinance concerning the Preservation of the Great Park of Windsor.

Commissioners to be sent to Scotland.

Ordered, and unanimously Agreed, That the Earl of Rutland and the Lord Wharton shall be sent Commissioners into Scotland.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer to the Message sent Yesterday to the House of Commons:

That they (fn. 2) have delivered the Scotts Papers; and they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Instructions for the Commissioners going to Scotland.

Next, the House took into Consideration the Votes concerning the Garrison of Carlile: And it is Ordered, That it is referred to the Committee of both Houses, that is appointed for drawing up Instructions to be given to the Commissioners that are to be sent into Scotland, to draw up an Instruction concerning the Garrison in Carlile, according to the Purpose of the Votes brought up from the House of Commons in Conformity to the large Treaty.

Message from the H. C. with an Order for an Allowance for Colonel Langhorn's Family.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, &c.

To desire Concurrence in these Particulars:

1. That One Hundred Pounds in Monies, and Five Pounds per Week, be charged upon and paid out of the Sequestrations, by the Committee at Campden House, or elsewhere, for the Support of Colonel Langherne's Wife, Children, and Family.

Agreed to.

with Committees Names for Gloucester, &c.;

2. That Colonel Thomas Carne, Thomas Hughes, Mathew Herbert, and John Walter, Esquires, be added to the several Committees of Gloucester, Hereford, Monmouth, Glamorgan, Brecknocke, and Radnor.

Agreed to.

and with an Ordinance.

3. An Ordinance to make Thomas Jackson Preacher of Peter's Church in Gloucester; for the same he shall have Two Hundred Pounds per Annum. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees to all the Particulars now brought up.

Message to the H. C. about the Commissioners going to Scotland; and for preparing their Instructions;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page:

To let them know, that this House hath nominated the Earl of Rutland and the Lord Wharton, to go Commissioners into Scotland; and to desire that the Committee may meet this Afternoon, at Three a Clock, to consider of the Instructions to be given to the Commissioners, especially concerning Carlile.

and about the Ordinance concerning the Captives at Algiers.

2. To acquaint them, that this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning the Bonds touching the Captives of Argier, with a small Addition, wherein their Concurrence is desired.

Answer from the H. C.

Mr. Serjeant Whitfield and Mr. Serjeant Fynch return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree to the Lady Haddington's Pass, and to the Business concerning the French Agent: To the other Particulars, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Walsingham and Baker.

Upon hearing the Counsel on both Sides, (fn. 3) in the Cause between Sir Thomas Walsingham and Sir John Baker: It is Ordered, That this House will take it into Consideration To-morrow Morning; in the mean Time, the main Deed is to be brought in, and the Descent to be proved of him that is said to be Heir to the Land in Question.

Part of Richards's Sentence respited.

Upon the Desire of the Earl of Northumb. it is Ordered, That that Part of the Sentence against Richards, as concerns his standing upon the Pillory, is respited.

E. of Denbigh desired by a Committee of the H. C. to be examined, concerning his carrying the Propositions to the King.

The Earl of Denbigh signified to the House, "That he had been moved, by some of the Members of the House of Commons, to be examined by a Committee of that House, in some Particulars concerning the Business his Lordship was employed in, of carrying the Propositions to Oxford; which he would not condescend unto without Leave from this House."

And their Lordships left it freely to him to do therein as he should think fit, though it were in Examination upon Members of the House of Commons.

Ordinance for Mr. Jackson to be Minister of St. Peter's, Gloucester.

"It is Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, at the Instance of the Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council, of the City of Gloucester, and upon the Approbation of the Assembly of Divines, That Mr. Thomas Jackson, Master of Arts, shall be, and is hereby, established Preacher of God's Word, in the Cathedral Church of St. Peter's, in Gloucester; and that the said Thomas Jackson, for and towards his Maintenance, shall have and receive, out of the Manors, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, lately belonging to the Dean and Chapter of the said Cathedral, the Sum of Two Hundred Pounds per Annum, to be paid Quarterly, the First Payment whereof to begin the 29th of September next ensuing; and this Ordinance shall be a sufficient Warrant to the Receiver or Receivers, that are or shall be appointed to gather or receive the Profits or Rents of the said Lands and Premises, for the Payment thereof, who are hereby authorized and required, from Time to Time, to pay the same to the said Thomas Jackson, or his Assigns, in Manner aforesaid: And be it also Ordained, by the Authority aforesaid, That the said Thomas Jackson shall possess and enjoy that Prebendary, Mansion-house, Garden, and Appurtenances, belonging to the said Cathedral, which was lately in the Possession of Doctor Inglish, as One of the Prebendaries of the same: And it is further Declared and Ordained, by the said Lords and Commons, That all the said Manors, Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, and the Issues and Rents thereof, lately belonging to the said Dean and Chapter, are and shall be sequestered; and the Receiver or Receivers, for the Time being, of the said Rents, Issues, and Profits, are hereby authorized, from Time to Time, upon Neglect or Refusal of the Payment of the said Rents, to levy the same by Distress and Sale of the Goods of such Person or Persons so neglecting or refusing, from whom the said Rents are or shall become due and payable, rendering to them the Overplus."


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Bis in Originali.
  • 3. Deest in Originali.