House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 23 August 1645

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Sabbati, 23 die Augusti.


Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Middlesex.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Suffolke.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Willoughby.
Ds. Bruce.
Ds. Howard.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page return with this Answer to the Message sent to the House of Commons:

That to the Order that Captain Doyley should have the Regiment at Newport Pagnell; and that the Lord Savill should be allowed Seven Pounds a Week, and his Debt to the Lieutenant of The Tower paid out of his Estate; and to the Pass for the Lord Haughton, to go into France; they do agree: But to the Order for Mr. Case and for Captain Bowen, the Lord Powis, and the discharging of the Five Hundred Dragoons, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

A Letter was read, directed as follows:

Report from the Committee at Cambridge, about the Mayor's refusing to take the Oath to the University.

"For the Right Honourable the Speaker of the House of Peers.

"Right Honourable,

"We have, in Pursuance of an Order from your Lordships of the 5th Instant, sent to the present Mayor, to give Account of his Refusal to take the Oath to the University; who produced an Order from the House of Commons of the 14th Instant, whereby the Case is referred to a Committee of Parliament-men. We present ourselves,

"Your Lordship's most humble Servants,

Isaac Puller.
Rob't Clerke.
J. Barnadiston.
J. Walcott.
John Brewster."

E. of Midd. takes his Seat.

This Day James Earl of Midd. sat first in Parliament, upon the Death of his Father, Lionell Earl of Midd.

Answer from the H. C.

Mr. Serjeant Whitfield, &c. return with this Answer to the Message sent to the House of Commons:

That they agree to the Additions to the Committee for Glamorgan, Monmouth, &c. and to the Addition to the Order concerning the Day of Thanksgiving.

L. Coventry's Ordinance.

An Ordinance was presented to this House, concerning the restoring the Lord Coventry to his Estate, &c. which was read Thrice, and Agreed to; and the Concurrence of the House of Commons to be desired therein.

Ordinance for the Directory.

The House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to take into Consideration the Ordinance concerning (fn. 1) the Directory.

The House being resumed, the said Ordinance was Agreed to, with some Additions; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence in the Additions.

Message from the H. C. with Ordinances; and about the following Particulars.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Wm. Brereton, &c.

To desire Concurrence in several Ordinances:

1. An Ordinance for issuing out Ten Thousand Pounds, out of the Excise, for the supernumerary Soldiers in Yorkeshire. (Here enter it.)

Read, and Agreed to.

2. Ordered, That Major General Browne do put the Declaration of both Houses, concerning Persons associating or assembling themselves together in Arms without Authority of Parliament, in due Execution; and that he proceed accordingly.

Agreed to.

3. Votes concerning the Governor of Yorke, and of Scarbourough Castle. (Here enter them.)

Agreed to.

4. A Declaration concerning the Club-men. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

5. To desire Expedition to the Addition of the Gentlemen to be added to the Committee of the Eastern Association.

6. To desire Expedition in the Ordinance formerly brought up, for making Use of the Dutchy Seal of Lancaster, &c.

7. To let their Lordships know, that they agree to the Ordinance concerning Mr. Case, with the Addition of a Proviso, in which they desire their Lordships Concurrence. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:


That concerning the Committees of the Eastern Association, and the Ordinance concerning the Dutchy Seal, this House will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

To all the rest of the Particulars now brought, their Lordships do agree to them.

Deputy Lieutenants for Stafford.

Ordered, That this House approves of these Persons following, to be Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Stafford:

Michaell Noble Esquire.
Symon Rugeley Esquire.
Edward Leigh Esquire.
John Bowyer Esquire.
Tho. Crompton Esquire.
Phillip Jackson Esquire.

Capt. Copley's Petition, for his Arrears.

Upon reading the Petition of Captain John Copley; desiring, "That some of his Arrears may be paid "him:" It is Ordered, To be recommended to the House of Commons.

Muschamp's Assessments to be abated.

Upon reading the Petition of George Muschamp; shewing, "That there are such great Taxes laid upon his "Estate, by which he is not able to subsist, unless some Abatement be made."

It is Ordered, in regard of the great Losses the Petitioner hath sustained by the King's Army, that it be recommended to the House of Commons, that some Abatement may be made him.

Message to the H. C. about the following Particulars.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

1. To desire Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning the Lord Coventry.

2. To let them know, that this House agrees to the Ordinance concerning the Directory, with some Additions, wherein their Concurrence is desired.

3. To recommend the Petition of Captain John Copley.

4. To desire their Concurrence, in adding the Names to be Deputy Lieutenants for the County of Stafford.

Clause to be added to the Order concerning Petit, Deliques, &c. and Rednes.

Ordered, That this Clause following shall be added to the Order of the Fourth of August, 1645, videlicet,

"And it is further Ordered, That Dominiq' Petit, Peter Deluques, and Claudius Faccault, shall deposit in the Hands of the said Captain Hunter every Week, beforehand, such Money as they are to pay to the said Masters and Mariners, according to the Articles of the last Agreement, of the Tenth of June, 1645; and for the Money which is in Question between the Parties, they are both left to take their Remedy according to the Law; the said Dominiq' Petit, Peter De Luques, and Claudius Faucault, their Ships and Engines, with those that are employed by them in the said Service, remaining in the Protection of this House so long (fn. 2) as they are in the Service of the State."

Materials belonging to St. Paul's to be used for St. Gregory's.

Upon reading the Certificate of Edward Carter, Surveyor: (Here enter the Certificate.) It is Ordered, That such Materials as he hath certified to be perishable, belonging to Paul's Church, shall be delivered to the Parishioners of the Parish of St. Gregorie's, for repairing of their Church.

E. of Lincoln's Insult at Sir R. Carr's.

Ordered, That the Committee concerning the Earl of Lyncolne's Business, touching his going to see Sir Rob't Carr, shall meet on Tuesday next, in the Afternoon, at Three a Clock; and the Lady Carr to have Notice of it, that so she may be present if she thinks fit; and the Earl of Rutland, Lord Grey, and Lord Mountague, shall be added to the said Committee.

Order for 10,000l. for the supernumerary reduced Forces in Yorkshire.

"It is this Day Ordered and Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Ten Thousand Pounds, with Interest after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Cent. shall be paid in Course, out of the Receipts of the Excise or new Impost, by Ordinance of the 11th September 1643, for maintaining the supernumerary Forces of Horse and Foot, with their Officers, in Yorkesheir, that shall join with the other Forces, in the Design of blocking up and reducing Newarke, or in fighting or opposing the Enemy in the Field; and the Commissioners of Excise or new Impost are hereby authorized and required to pay the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds, with Interest, accordingly, unto Colonel William White, or unto such Person or Persons as shall have Order from him under his Hand and Seal to receive the same, or any Part thereof; and the Receipt of the said Colonel Wm. White, or any other Person or Persons, under his Hand and Seal as aforesaid, of all or any Part of the said Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds, shall be unto the said Commissioners, and every of them, a sufficient Discharge in that Behalf."

Col. Poyntz to be Gov. of York.

"Resolved, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That they do nominate and approve of Colonel General Pointz, to be Governor of the City of Yorke; and that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms do grant him a Commission accordingly."

Col. Boynton o be Gov. of Scarborough.

"Resolved, &c. That they do nominate and approve of Colonel Mathew Boynton, to be Governor of Scarborrough Castle; and that the Members of both Houses that are of the Committee of both Kingdoms do grant him a Commission accordingly."

Committees in the North, no Power to appoint Governors.

"Resolved, &c. That they do Declare, That the Committee for the North Ryding of the County of Yorke hath no Power to appoint a Governor of Scarrborrough Castle, or of any other Place in that Association."

"Resolved, &c. That they do Declare, That the Committee for Military Affairs in the Northern Association hath no Power to nominate or appoint any Governor of any Fort, Garrison, or Castle there."

Declaration against the Club-men; and Forces assembling without Authority of Parliament.

"The Lords and Commons do declare all Person or Persons whatsover, that shall associate or assemble themselves together in Arms, in any Parts of the Kingdom, without Authority of Parliament, to be Traitors to the Commonwealth, and to be proceeded with accordingly; and that the Governors and Commanders of all Garrisons and Places under the Power of the Parliament do publish this Declaration, and use their best Endeavours to prevent and suppress any such Associating or Assemblies, and to seize upon the Heads or the Leaders of them."

Ordinance for Mr. Case to be Minister of Stockport.

"Forasmuch as the Parsonage of Stockport, in the County of Chester, is lately become void, by the Death of Mr. Edmond Shalcrosse, late Parson and Incumbent thereof, the next Presentation whereof did belong or appertain unto Edward Warren Esquire, who hath been in Arms against the Parliament, and still adheres to the King's Party: The Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled, to the End the said Church and Parish may be supplied with a Learned, Godly, and Orthodox Divine, have Ordered, Ordained, and Appointed, and do hereby Order, Ordain, and Appoint, Mr. Thomas Case, Master of Arts, and One of the Assembly of Divines now sitting at Westm. to be Rector and Parson of the said Church and Parish of Stockport, with the Members and Appurtenances; and that he shall and may have, hold, possess, and enjoy, the said Church and Parsonage, and the Parsonage-house, with the Rights, Members, and Appurtenances, and all Glebe Lands, Tithes, Stipends, Pensions, Rents, Duties, Profits, and Commodities whatsoever, to the said Parish Church or Parsonage belonging, from the Death of the said Edmond Shalcrosse, in as large and ample Manner as the said Edmond Shalcrosse, or any other Rector or Parson thereof, lawfully or of Right had, or ought to have had, the same; and that without any further Presentation, Admission, Institution, or Induction: Provided, That the said Thomas Case shall pay all such Tenths, First Fruits, and other Duties, as ought to be paid for and in regard of his Incumbency there.

"Saving also to all Bodies Politic and Corporate, and all other Person and Persons, all such Right and Title as they, or any of them, have unto the Patronage of the said Church of Stockport, other than the above named Edward Warren and his Heirs, and such Persons as are sequestrable by the Ordinance of Parliament for the sequestering of Papists and Delinquents Estates."

Carter's Certificate, concerning Materials that may be spared from St. Paul's, for re-building St. Gregory's.

"According to an Order of the Right Honourable the House of Peers, dated the Fourth Day of April, 1645, concerning what Materials were to be delivered to the Inhabitants of Gregorye's, from the Stores of Paule's Church, London, in Reference to an Order made the 16th Day of May, 1642; it is humbly certified,

That there being divers Materials in the Stores, for the Repairs of Paule's Church, London; as the Stone and other Materials of the like Nature will not perish with lying, but may be reserved and employed for the future Repair of the said Church; but the several Sorts of Timber, Boards, Scaffolding, and the like, are perishable, and in short Time will be unuseful either for that or any other Work.

"There will be used about the Re-building Grigorie's Church One Hundred Eighty-seven Tun of Stone, Fifty Loads of Timber, Two Hundred Deal Boards, and Scaffolding Stuff, which they intend to restore.

"The Quantity of the Stone and Timber remaining in the Stores, for the Repair of Paule's Church, appeareth by the Paper annexed, amongst which there is a Parcel of Stone lying in London House Yard, containing about Ninety-seven Tun, provided in Bishop Mountaigue's Time; but was not thought fit to be used in the former Repairs. Out of the former Materials, what Part your Honours will be pleased to allow to the Inhabitants of Gregorye's, for the Re-building of their Church, is humbly left to your Honourable Consideration.

"Edward Carter."

Order for a Weekly Allowance for Lord Savill.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the Lord Savill shall have the Allowance of Seven Pounds per Week, for his Maintenance in Prison, to be paid him out of his own Estate; and that the Arrears due to the Lieutenant of The Tower for his Diet, and the Fees due upon the Commitment, be likewise paid by the Committee of Sequestrations; where the Estate of the Lord Savill is."


House adjourned till Tuesday next, at 9 a Clock.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
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