House of Lords Journal Volume 7: 9 October 1645

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 7, 1644. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Jovis, 9 die Octobris.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Simpson.

Lord Grey, Speaker.

E. Essex.
E. Nottingham.
E. Bolingbrooke.
E. Midd.
E. Kent.
E. Pembrooke.
E. Northumb'land.
E. Manchester.
E. Rutland.
E. Salisbury.
L. Rob'ts.
L. North.
L. Howard.
L. Maynard.

Ld. Berkley's Order.

Order for securing the Lord Berkleye's Writings in Berkley Castle, was read, and approved.

E. of Denbigh's.

Order touching the Earl of Denbigh's Charge, read, and approved.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page returned Answer from the House of Commons;

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own, to these Particulars following:

1. The King of Denmark's Letter.

2. To make Colonel Barrowe Governor of Berkley Castle.

3. To the Ordinance for Captain Cannon.

4. To take off Edmond Southcutt's Sequestration.

Ld. Maynard versus Sir R. Banister.

The Cause of the Lord Maynard, versus Sir Rob'te Banestree, came this Day to a Hearing at the Bar.

Upon hearing the Counsel on both Sides, and Consideration of the whole Matter: It is Ordered, That the said Cause is hereby dismissed this House; and the Parties left to their ordinary Course in Law or Equity, as by their Counsel Learned they shall be advised.

Excise on Gold and Silver Thread.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Excise of Gold and Silver Thread, &c. shall meet on Wednesday next, at Three post meridiem, in the Prince's Lodgings.

Ordered, That a Pass shall be granted to, to come up to London, from

Paper from the Scots Commissioners.

Report was made from the Committee of both Kingdoms, and a Paper from the Scotts Commissioners was read. (Enter it.)

Ld. Maynard and Sir R. Banister.

The Award between the Lord Maynard and Sir Rob'te Banestree is to be brought into Court To-morrow.

Mr. Pym's Ordinance.

Ordered, That the Committee for Mr. Pyme's Ordinance shall meet To-morrow, at Nine in the Morning.

Message to the H. C. with the Scots Paper, and Capt. Poe's Petition.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page to H. C.

1. With the Scotts Paper.

2. With Captain Poe's Petition.

Paper from the Scots Commissioners, that they expect an Answer from their Army, about their marching to the Siege of Newark;-desiring its Necessities may be considered; and pressing for Propositions for Peace to be offered the King.

To give a more positive Answere to the Desires of the Houses, concerning the Marchinge of the Scottish Army to beseidge Newarke, was not in (fn. 1) our Power, nor within the Bounds of our Comission; but what was in our Power, for sattisfyinge the Desires of the Houses, that wee have done with all Dilligence, for wee did forthwith comunicate the Desires of the Houses to the Committee of the Parliament of Scotland residing with the Army, and intrusted for their Part with the Power of disposeinge of the Army; and with all Earnestnes did presse a speedy and sattisfactory Answere, which wee doe shortly expect, because, by the Letters which wee have received by this Post, wee understand there is a Meeting of that Committee, and of some of the Generall Officers of that Army, upon the Borders, with the Committee of Scotland; and wee are very hopefull the Result of their Consultations shall tend to the betteringe the Condition of that Army, the advancing of the Publique Service, and the sattisfyinge of the Desires of both Houses of Parliament.

"As it shal bee our earnest Desire, and constant Endeavor, that the Scottish Army may bee active in the prosecutinge of the Warre, untill the Peace of both Kingdomes bee setled; soe wee cannott but renew our Desires to the Honnorable Houses, to take more to Heart the Necessityes of that Army, the removeing of the Obstructions, and Supply of the Defects of the Wayes appointed for their Maintenance; and wee earnestly intreate for a speedy Answere to the Particulers represented by us in our former Papers, concerning the Army, and for setlinge of Religion, and procureinge the common Peace of both Kingdomes, which were the mayne Causes and Ends that engaged us in this Warre.

"It may bee equally considered by the Honnorable Houses, when now the Kingdome of Scotland, out of their earnest Desire, upon the Grounds contained in the Covenant and Treaty to procure the Peace of this Kingdome, have denyed themselves, and loosed their owne Peace, and are obliged, by Covenant, Treaty, and joynt Declaration of both Kingdomes, never to lay downe Armes 'till the Peace of both bee setled, to what Straights the Kingdome of Scotland is brought, if the Houses of Parliament, being earnestly and frequently desired by that Kingdome, shall delay to joyne in seekeing a safe and wellgrounded Peace, upon Termes already agreed upon by the joynt Consent of both Kingdomes, and in the meane Tyme shall not provide a sure Way of Entertaynment for the Scottish Army, and thereby enhable them, according to the Treaty, to prosecute the Warre: When this is layd to Heart by the Wisdome and Brotherly Affection of the Houses of Parliament, wee doe not doubt but, in their Justice and Equity, they will judge of our Difficultyes and Desires as if they were their owne, and will determyne and doe as in the like Case they would expect from the Kingdome of Scotland.

9 October, 1645.

"By Comaund of the Commissioners for the Parliament of Scotland.

"Jo. Cheisley."


Adjourn, 9 To-morrow.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.