House of Lords Journal Volume 8: 15 May 1646

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Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 8, 1645-1647. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Veneris, 15 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Taylor.

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Essex.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Suffolke.
Comes Midd.
Comes Denbigh.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Robertes.
Ds. Dacres.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Maynard.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Hunsden.
Ds. Willoughby.

Ordinance for Bond to be Governor of Portland.

A new Ordinance was presented to this House, for making Mr. Bond Captain of Portland Castle, &c. the former Ordinance being (fn. 1) defective in some Particulars; which being read, it was Agreed to, and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons, for their Concurrence.

Ly. Wotton, Leave to remain at Greenwich;

Ordered, That the Lady Wotton shall have Liberty to remain at Greenwich, where now she is, or within Twenty Miles of London.

and Ld. Lovelace to go to Harley.

Ordered, That the Lord Lovelace shall have Liberty to go to his House at Harly; provided he give his Word to the Speaker of this House, to return by To-morrow Sevennight.

D. of Richmond and E. of Lindsey to have Apartments at Windsor.

Ordered, That the Gentleman Usher shall accommodate the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Lyndsey with convenient Lodgings in Windsor Town, or thereabout, where he can best accommodate them.

Ingle and Ford versus Cornwallis.

Ordered, That the Cause between Cornwallis and Ford and Ingle shall be heard, at this Bar, on Wednesday come Sevennight.

Baron Trevor, Leave to be absent.

Ordered, That Mr. Baron Trevor shall have Leave to be absent from his Attendance on this House for a Week.

Message to the H. C. for a Conference, about the Words spoke by Sir J. Evelyn;

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Page:

1. To desire a Conference, in the Painted Chamber, so soon as it may stand with their Conveniency, touching some Words that fell from a Member of theirs at the last Conference.

about the Marquis of Winton's Allowance;

2. To desire that the Marquis of Winton might have the Allowance of Five Pounds a Week duly paid him, out of his Estate, as formerly was Ordered.

with Bond's Ordinance;

3. To desire Concurrence in the Ordinance concerning Mr. Bond to be made Lieutenant of the Isle, and Captain of the Castle, of Portland.

the Letter to the Prince;

4. To desire their Concurrence in the Letter to be sent to the Prince.

and Two more Ordinances.

5. The Ordinance concerning the Isle of Wight.

6. The Ordinance concerning Sir Francis Drake to have Leave to come to London, he being Sheriff of the County of Devon.

Letter from the Scots Commissioners;

A Letter from the Scotts Commissioners here to this House, was read, about opening of their Letters.

(Here enter it.)

Capt. Massey & al. to attend, about opening their Letters.

Ordered, That Colonel Wilson, Captain Maissey, and Steven Estwicke, shall have Notice to attend this House To-morrow Morning, at Ten of the Clock, to be examined concerning this Business.

Message from the H. C. with Orders, &c.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye;

To desire Concurrence in several Ordinances and Orders:

An Order for Re-payment of One Thousand Pounds to Sir John Dreyden and Mr. Crew, was read Twice; and an Account to be given to this House To-morrow Morning, upon what Occasion this Thousand Pounds was lent.

An Order for Colonel Whalley, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

An Order concerning One Hundred Pounds to Lieutenant Colonel Carlton, was read, and Agreed to.

(Here enter it.)

An Order to pay One Hundred Pounds for Lieutenant Colonel Agmondesham Muschamp, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

The Order continuing the former Ordinance for Bristoll, was read, and committed to

E. of Essex.
E. Stamford.
E. Lyncolne.
L. Robert.
L. North.
L. Willoughby.

Any Two, to meet To-morrow Morning.

The Answer returned was:


That this House agrees to the Order concerning Lieutenant Colonel Agmondesham Muschamp, and to the Order concerning One Hundred Pounds for Colonel Whalley, and to the Order for One Hundred Pounds to Lieutenant Colonel Carlton: To all the rest of the Particulars of this Message, this House will take them into Consideration, and send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Dutchess of Richmond, Leave to come to London.

Ordered, That the Lady Dutchess of Richmond hath Leave to come to London, for her Health.

Preachers at the next Fast.

Ordered, That Mr. Prophett and Mr. Taylor shall be appointed to preach before the Lords, in the Abbey Church at Westm. the next Fast-day.

Orders for Concurrence.

An Order for Ten Thousand Pounds, out of the Excise, for Ireland, was read, (fn. 2) and Agreed to.

(Here enter it.)

An Order to give Twenty Pounds to Mr. Bedford, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

An Order to give Mr. Scowen Two Thousand Pounds, out of Dr. Warnor's Fine, was read, and Agreed to.

(Here enter it.)

An Order to give Thirty Pounds to Captain Fan, and Twenty Pounds to Mr. Clarke, was read, and Agreed to. (Here enter it.)

The Order concerning Ireland, was read; and Ordered to be taken into Consideration on Monday Morning next, by the whole House.

Horses to be exported for the French King.

Ordered, That there shall be a Pass granted, for to transport Sixteen Nags, for the Use of the French King.

Col. Cromwell to export Horses.

Ordered, That Colonel Cromwell and Major Cromwell shall have a Pass, to transport into Holland Six Horses, for their own Uses.

Letter from the Scots Commissioners, complaining of Capt. Massey's opening their Letters; and desiring that he, Col. Wilson, and Mr. Estwick, may be examined about it.

"For the Right Honnorable the Speaker of the House of Peeres pro Tempore.

"Wee did formerly acquaint the Honnorable Houses with a Report that was come to our Eares, concerning the interceptinge at the Guards of the Citty a Gentleman employed from the Committee of Estates of the Kingdome of Scotland hither, and sent backe againe by us with Letters to their Lordships and the Committee of Estates at the Army: But now, from more certaine Knowledge, wee doe further represent, That, upon Thursday last, the 7th of this Instant May, before 8 of the Clock at Night, after he had shewed a Passe under our Hands, and offered to shew annother Passe signed by the Right Honnorable the Lords and others of the Committee of Estates of the Kingdome of Scotland, he was stopped, by one Captaine Massy, at Shoreditch; and, notwithstandinge he tould his Letters were from us, Captaine Massey caused him to bee searched, giveing this Reason for it, "That he could not bee answereable if he did not see them;" and when he had looked upon the Letters, he said againe "he could not bee answereable, if he did not carry the Gentleman and the Letters back againe;" which he did forthwith, and brought him, as wee are enformed, to one Colonell Wilson's House, and from thence to one Mr. Estwick's, where he retired himselfe for an Houre and an Halfe at least, and afterward brought him to The Starre in Fish-Streete, where he was kept in a close Roome all the rest of that Night, attended by Two Souldiers. The next Day he was brought to Westminster, where he was kept from 8 in the Morning till 7 at Night; and all the Tyme he could not obtayne soe much Favor as to have Leave to send a Porter, or write To Lynes, to Worcester House, or to any of his Acquaintance, though he severall Tymes earnestly entreated it. Most of our Letters have beene retourned unto us undisclosed; but One Letter, directed to the Lord Balcarres, a Member of the Right Honnorable the Committee of Estates, is still detayned; and, which is most strange, and very unexpected to us, our Letter directed to the Right Honnorable the Committee of Estates on the Back was sent unto us open; and the inclosed, which was a Copy of our Letter to the Committee of Estates at the Army, and to which our Letter did particularly referre, is taken away, and still kept from us. When wee reflect upon the whole Storry of this Businesse, wee stand amazed to consider of it, and what Thoughts of Heart may bee upon it in the Kingdome of Scotland, wee beinge solemnely invited by the Houses of Parliament to come and reside here, and soe many Promises made to us by their Commissioners of faire and kinde Entertainment (whereof wee acknowledge till of late wee have had good Experience); the Kingdome of Scotland haveinge suffered soe much at Home and Abroade by Sea and by Land, to the vast Expence of much Blood and Treasure, in this Cause; there being soe many solemne Foundations of mutuall Confidence betweene the Kingdomes; and wee ourselves haveinge to the uttermost of our Power, from the First Hower of our comeing hither to this Day, endeavored a faire Correspondency and right Understandinge betweene the Nations, whereof the Honnorable Houses have given us ample Testimonyes: Wee are exceedingly surprised, when wee compare this with the former interceptinge and opening of our Letters, often complained of at the Committee of both Kingdomes, and not redressed, and other Affronts done unto us, which wee forbeare to mention at this Tyme. Wee neede not to tell the Honnorable Houses how inviolable the Priviledges and Freedome of Legatts and Commissioners, their Attendants and Messengers, are kept by all Nations, and what sadd Consequences have followed upon the Violation of those Lawes; nor shall wee take upon us to declare, but leave it to the Honnorable Houses to consider, how farre this doth entrench upon the Lawe of Nations, upon our owne Security and Safety, how prejudiciall it is to the Ends for which wee were called hither, and how farre it doth disable us to doe any Service here to the Kingdome of Scotland whome wee represent, if our Intelligence and Advises to them, or their Instructions and Directions to us, shal bee discovered and divulged to the World. And wee doe the more insist upon this Business, that another Messenger, dispatched by us since, upon the 8th of this Instant, haveinge a Passe under our Hands, was searched by some of Colonell Poyntz and Colonell Rosseter's Forces for Letters, which, with other Grounds wee have, giveth us Cause to suspect that, our Residence here beinge soe well knowne to all the Officers aboute London, and our Passes never questioned hitherto by any of them, Captaine Massy alone durst never have undertaken this Business, to breake open our Letters, directed on the Back to the Committee of Estates of Scotland, without the Direction, Assistance, and Instigation, of others. Wee doe, therefore, in the Name of the Kingdome of Scotland, desire that strict Tryall may bee taken herein; and not only Captaine Massy, but Colonell Wilson, Mr. Estwick, and all others who can bee discovered to have had any Hand, or to bee any wise accessary to the intercepting and breaking upp of our Letters, may bee examined; that Reparation may bee made unto us, and the Fact disclaymed and disavowed; that wee may receive Assurance of the safe Transport and Convayance of our Letters for the future, and the Passage of our Messingers to the Scottish Army and the Kingdome of Scotland and back againe, by Sea or Land, without Interruption; that all our Jealousyes and Feares of this Kinde may bee removed; and that a right Understandinge and faire Correspondence may bee still preserved betweene these Kingdomes. All which we doe earnestly desire and expect from the Wisdome of the Honnorable Houses; and remaine

"Your affectionate Freinds and Servaunts,

Worcester House 13 Maii, 1646.


"J. Ihonston.

Charles Erskin.

"Hew Kennedy.

Ro. Barclay."

Order for 100£ for Col. Whalley.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That One Hundred Pounds be bestowed upon Colonel Edward Whalley, who commanded at the Siege at Banbury, to buy him Two Horses; and that the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies sitting at Habberdashers Hall do forthwith pay the same accordingly."

Order for 100£. for Lieut. Col. Carlton.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Lieutenant Colonel Carleton, who brought the First News of the Surrender of Newarke, shall have One Hundred Pounds bestowed upon him, for this and other Services, and paid unto him by the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies at Habberdash'rs Hall."

Order for 100£. for Lieut. Col. Muschamp.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Sum of One Hundred Pounds be paid, by the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies sitting at Habberdash'rs Hall, unto Lieutenant Colonel Agmandesbam Muschampe, in Part of Monies disbursed by him for the Service of Ireland."

Order for 10,000£. for Ireland.

It is this Day Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Ten Thousand Pounds shall be paid in Course, out of the Receipts of the Grand Excise, with Interest every Six Months, unto the Deputy Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, to be employed for the Service of the Kingdom of Ireland: And be it further Ordained, That if any wellaffected Person or Persons shall advance the said Ten Thousand Pounds, or any Part thereof, by Way of Loan, that every such Person or Persons, their Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, shall be paid and reimbursed the several and respective Sum or Sums which he or they shall so advance, out of the Receipts of the Excise as aforesaid, together with Interest, at the End of every Six Months, after the Rate of Eight Pounds per Centum, for so long Time as the same, or any Part thereof, shall be forborn; and that the said several and respective Sum or Sums, to be advanced for the Use aforesaid, be paid unto the said Deputy Treasurer at Wars for Ireland, or his Assigns, whose Receipt or Receipts, testifying the particular and respective Sums advanced, together with the Receipt or Receipts of the several and respective Advancers or Lenders thereof, their Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, shall be a sufficient Warrant and Discharge unto the Commissioners of Excise for the Time being, for Payment of the said Ten Thousand Pounds and Interest, and every Part or Parcel thereof, accordingly."

Order for 20£. for Mr. Bedford, from Newark.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies sitting at Habberdash'rs Hall do forthwith pay unto Captain Bedford, that brought News of the Surrender of Newark, the Sum of Twenty Pounds, for his Pains."

Order for 2000£. for Mr. Scawen.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That Two Thousand Pounds be bestowed upon Robert Scawen Esquire, out of the Twentieth Part, and Fine and Composition, of Doctor Warner late Bishop of Rochester; and that it be referred to the Committee at Habberdash'rs Hall to make Composition with the said Doctor Warner."

Order for 30£. to Capt. Fann, and 20£. to Mr. Clark.

"Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That the Committee of Lords and Commons for Advance of Monies at Habberdash'rs Hall do forthwith advance and pay unto Captain Mathew Fann, the Sum of Thirty Pounds, and unto Lawrence Clarke the Sum of Twenty Pounds, that brought the Intelligence from Colonel Ransborough, and Colonel Fleetwood, for their Pains and good Service therein."


  • 1. Origin. defected.
  • 2. Origin. at.