House of Lords Journal Volume 9: 27 March 1647

Pages 108-109

Journal of the House of Lords: Volume 9, 1646. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1767-1830.

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DIE Saturni, 27 die Martii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Corbett.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Comes Manchester, Speaker.

Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Mulgrave.
Comes Lyncolne.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Hunsdon.

Letter from L. Inchiquin.

A Letter from the Lord Inchequin was read, dated from Corke, the 10th of March, 1646.

(Here enter it.)

It is Ordered, To be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Irish Affairs, to report to this House on Thursday next, what hath been the Precedents in former Times in Cases of this Nature.

Committee to attend the P. Elector.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to attend the Prince Elector shall go to him on Monday next, in the Afternoon, at Four of the Clock; and afterwards to meet from Time [ (fn. 1) to Time] as they shall find Cause.

Answer to the King's Letters about His Chaplains.

The Letter in Answer to the King's Two Letters concerning Chaplains, was read, and Agreed to; and Ordered to be sent to the House of Commons for their Concurrence.

Ordinance to prevent Clipping and Coining.

The House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to take into Consideration the Ordinance for preventing the Coining and Clipping of Money.

The House was resumed.

Then the said Ordinance was read the Third Time, and Agreed to.

Message to the H. C. with the Letter to the King; and about the following Particulars.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Doctor Aylett:

1. To deliver to them the Letter to be sent to the King, and desire their Concurrence therein.

2. To deliver to them the Ordinance concerning the Clipping of Coin, and to desire their Concurrence.

3. To put them in Mind of passing the Ordinance concerning the settling the Dutchy in the Lord Grey of Warke Speaker formerly of the House of Peers, and the Speaker of the House of Commons.

Lloyd to be instituted to Llandoydmour.

Ordered, That Doctor Aylett shall give Institution and Induction to the Rectory of Llandoydmour, in Com. Cardigan, to Jenkin Lloyd Cler.; he being presented thereunto by Grant under the Great Seal: And this to be with a salvo Jure cujuscunque; he first taking the solemn League and Covenant.

Parks held from the King to be compounded for.

The Question being put, "Whether such Persons as have any Forests or Parks, by Grant from the King, shall have Liberty to compound for them?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

L. Loftus and Sir G. Wentworth.

Ordered, That the Cause between the Lord Viscount Ely and Sir George Wentworth shall be heard on Tuesday next.

Ly. Stanhope, & al. a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Stanhope, with her Two Sons and her own Servant, shall be permitted to (fn. 2) come out of Holland into England, and return thither again.

Order to release Robinson, taken going from Scilly to France according to the Articles.

"Whereas Thomas Robinson was in the Garrison of Sylly at the Surrender thereof, and was to be safely conveyed, according to the Articles of Surrender, into France, which said Articles are since confirmed by both Houses of Parliament; and whereas the said Robinson was, by contrary Winds, driven into St. Ives Bay, in Cornwall, and there apprehended, within the Time limited by his Articles, and carried to Lanceston Gaol, by the Direction of divers Justices of the said County, for a Fact pretended to be done by him Two Years before: It is Ordered, &c. That the said Mr. Robinson shall, upon Sight of this Order, be discharged of his said Imprisonment, and suffered to have the Benefit of the Articles, according to Agreement.

"To the Keeper of the Gaol of Lanceston, &c."

Letter from L. Inchiquin, complaining that L. Lisle, L. L. of Ireland, slighted his Commission as President and Commander in Chief in Munster.

"To the Right Honourable the Earl of Manchester, Speaker of the House of Peers.

"My Lord,

"Soon after the Arrival of the Lord Lieutenant in this Province, I was occasioned to observe the Dispensation of his Lordship's Orders throughout the whole Army, by such of the General Officers as accompany his Lordship into this Kingdom, without taking Notice of the Trust reposed in me by the Honourable Houses next under his Lordship; whereupon I thought it expedient for me, in order for the Support of that Dignity wherewith I was honoured, to address myself unto his Excellency, and to present unto him my Commission for the Presidency of this Province, grounded upon an Ordinance of Parliament, whereby I was qualified with ample and absolute Power for the Chief Command of an Army in this Province, and for the carrying on of the War here, for the Exercise of Martial Law, and constituting of Laws and Ordinances Military, for the raising, arming, and inlisting Men into Pay, and employing them against the Rebels, and for conferring and disposing all Officers and Commanders belonging to a Commander in Chief; and did therewith declare it to be my humble Sense, That, according (fn. 2) to the Power of that Commission, and the Example of former Precedents, I ought of Right to be honoured with the Dispensing of his Lordship's Commands over that Army, and officiate immediately under his Lordship within this Province: Whereupon his Lordship did make Answer, That he did not think fit to allow the Forces in this Province the Privileges or Title of an Army; but that he was resolved to agitate the Business of the Army by his own General Officers, without taking Cognizance of me, or the General Officers under me, in that Proceeding: Wherein as I held it my Duty to submit to his Lordship's declared Pleasure, lest, by insisting more earnestly on the Honour of the Houses Authority, I might be thought to give Impediment to their Service; so I should have appeared guilty of betraying the Dignity of the Place, if I should silently suffer that eminent Command with which I was intrusted to be prejudiced in my Person; and therefore did resolve to make my humble Address to that Honourable House (as I have also done to the House of Commons), from whom jointly I received the Honour of this weighty Employment, to desire I may receive the Signification of their Pleasure, what Station I shall be allowed in the Command of this Army, during my Lord Lieutenant's Residence upon the Place, and how far the General Officers under me may be held capable of continuing their Commands, wherein I must profess myself free from any Desire or Design of retrenching the least Part of his Excellency's absolute Power and Command; it being no more derogatory to his full Government of the Army that I officiate immediately under him in this Province (as former Presidents have done), than that any other Person actuate his Commands in other Parts; wherein humbly desiring such a Declarative of the Pleasure of the Houses as may take away all Obstructions to their Service, I take Leave to remain

Corke, 10th of March, 1646.

"Your Lordship's
Most humble Servant,


House adjourned till 10a Monday next, Aurora.


  • 1. Deest in Originali.
  • 2. Deest in Originali.