Border Papers volume 2: January 1601

Pages 724-730

Calendar of Border Papers: Volume 2, 1595-1603. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1896.

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1311. Willoughby and Bowes to Cecil. [Jan. 10. 1600–1.]

The Council's letter to us both, which came to our hands about the 1st instant, we. have answered according to their lordships' direction: and with a packet of other papers in the case, is directed to Mr John Guevara to be presented to your lordsbips assembled at a full board. In case Mr Guevara has to return hither before these papers reach your honor, we beseech you to vouchsafe us the favor of opening the same, and presenting our said letter and papers to the Council by some of the gentlemen clerks or otherwise. I the treasurer also humbly request that one of these papers, viz. Sir John Carey's acquittance under his-own hand, may after their lordships' satisfaction, be returned to me, as without showing it, I cannot have discharge of the sum in my accounting. Berwick. Signed: P. Wylloughby, Will'm Bowes.

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed. Wafer signet: shield of 8 quarters; crest, pair of horns on helmet.

1312. Certificate for the master of ordnance. [Jan. 10.]

The undersigned sworn officers at Berwick, at the request of the master of ordnance, whose disbursements for 2 years past are disallowed by the treasurer of Berwick, signify to Mr Secretary, that to their knowledge, the master has always kept a sufficient team of "lymer" horses both for his own service, as also for the Queen's works of fortification about the town—and that since he entered on office, he has greatly lessened the Queen's charges and expenses therein. Berwick. Signed: John Crane, James Burrell deputie surveyor; Henrye Sysson, master gonner; John Pratt, Antheny Atkynson, John Selby, William Edwardes, quartermasters."

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed by Cecil's clerk.

1313. William Selby [junior] to Cecil. [Jan. 10.]

Humbly thanking him for his letter of the 22d December. Having lately seen a copy of Mr Musgrave's petition and articles, finds "the stile sharpe and unrespective," but the substance "for the most parte, true and justefiable": for his lordship's claims, asserted titles, and dealings with Musgrave, were all as described, and this of his own knowledge, being present at almost all the conferences: where Musgrave conducted himself dutifully and reverently to his lordship, who was very watchful to take any advantage of any word; wherein Sir William Bowes far exceeded him, and so insulted Musgrave as to displease all honest minds. He would without offence, say a little more, and that if the Lord Governor and Bowes are supported in this course, no just man can act as a councillor. They are both cunning and conceited of their own sufficiency, and "credits above," despise others, are impatient of contradiction, and "vindicatif" against those who concur not with them.

A letter from her Majesty by Cecil is reported to have lifted the Governor "very high," after his depression on account of Sir William Evers. On the 1st instant another came from the lords, regarding the pay, whether any captains had received it on imprests? He knows the reply that it was not, is incorrect, and relates the circumstances at length. Finally he describes the manner in which his private messenger was stopped by the Governor at Alnwick, his cloak bag rifled, though the letters were otherwise bestowed and not found. Also his attempts to find out if he sent them by means of Sir Robert Carey, or received any by his help: which practices have caused him to put his principal papers out of the Governor's reach, who is by nature vindictive, and ingenious in circumventing his own plainness. Berwick. Signed: Will'm Selby.

pp. Very closely written. Holograph; also address. Indorsed. Fragment of wax signet.

1314. Willoughby to Cecil. [Jan. 11.]

Since these troubles and their lordships' advice, though sick and weak in body, I have laboured as best I could in the Queen's service: and have had one Robert Gray of Newcastle brought to me, intercepted when about to pass into Scotland, at an unusual and suspicious place—with divers letters from the Laird of Poure Ogilvy. I have caused to be perused those to common persons—the principal, to the King, I have reserved at her Majesty's pleasure to be broken up. Pie is found in his reports full of contrarieties, and "blasphemously popish in his books." I have sent-out divers, and shall do my utmost to apprehend his master. Berwick. Signed: P. Wyllughby.

I have sent you herein all Gray's letters. He confesses that Ogilvy has been "receited" at Mr Woodringtons, at Causby Park at one Ogel's there, and at the Lady Ogel's. I am this day informed that a packet from Ogilvy to the Earl of Angus past by the West Border.

½ p. Addressed. Indorsed.

1315. Willoughby to Sir R. Carey. [Jan. 11]

Understanding by a messenger intercepted with letters, that the Laird of Poury Ogilvy, with an Italian and others, are in your wardenry, I request you with all carefulness to order a general speedy and "curious" search to be made for him, &c., and to further those I have sent therein. "With my harty commendacions to your selfe and my good lady." Berwick. Signed: P. Wyllughby.

½ p. Addressed. Indorsed by Cecil's clerk. Wax signet: 8 quartered shield and 3 crests, broken.

1316. Sir W. Bowes to Cecil. [Jan. 11.]

My lord governor having made me acquainted with Graye's apprehension, and such perusal of his letters as time afforded, I am led to believe this is the same Ogilvy known by the name of "Purie Ogilvy," a trafficker in Spain, some 4 years since—whose negotiation was imputed by her Majesty to the King of Scots, at my last employment there: his answer whereto her highness has under the King's own handwriting, besides his answers of her propositions made to him by me. The same Ogilvy, as I gather, has now with him, as you will perceive by his letter to Sir Thomas Erskine—"some important matter for the Kinges behoofe." In the King's commendatory passport he is called "Gilbert," whereas he writes "John," being possibly not the same, or else to avoid discovery. His lordship has not opened the packet directed to the King, but left it to her Majesty's pleasure. There is an Italian with him. "By Grayes report he is but poore": his letters mostly show little matter of weight, unless he use cyphers, &c., under the words. His lordship has taken great care to apprehend him, and written to the warden of the Middle March in case the three several companies miss him.

"The French lordes arre now here on ther retourn." Berwick. Signed: Will'm Bowes.

1 p. Holograph (?) also address. Indorsed. Wafer signet (Bowes).

1317. Sir R. Carey to the Privy Council. [Jan. 12.]

This morning about 8, I received the inclosed letter from my lord governor: the post boy that brought it said he had newly parted with my lord's company, not 2 miles from this house, but knew not whither they went. There were three captains, Carvell, Norton and Ager, with some 50 horse or more: and they stayed him long, or he might have been with me 4 or 5 hours sooner. I thought they meant to do what they came for, before I knew of it, and wrote but "for forme sake": so I got to horse, and rode where I guessed they were (for my lord's letter gave me no certainty), and at Cawsey park I found Captain Ager and half a score men, the rest searching elsewhere. Before I came, they had taken Ogilvy and his man out of the house, and were on the road to Berwick: I took Captain Ager aside, and said my lord had dealt to my discredit, to send a force so near my house, and take prisoners away without acquainting me, and if he thought me honest, he might have spared his labour, and sent me a private post to take such men within my March. And if I did not discharge my duty in taking them, I deserved death: but he should not carry them off, as I would keep them till your lordships' pleasure. I refused to look at my lord's warrant which Ager offered me, as I had a better: and after some discourse, he grew angry and said I might take them, for he was no party to keep them: but if he were, I should not take them so. I said if my lord and his whole March were there, he should not have them but with my liking. So we parted, and I have the prisoners in two several prisons—no living creature allowed to confer with them—and 4 men watching them night and day. And I await your lordships' further directions: as this is the truth of the proceedings from first to last. Woodrington. Signed: Ro. Carey.

2 pp. Addressed. Indorsed. Swan wafer signet.

1318. Sir R. Carey to Cecil. [Jan. 12.]

I have had disgrace offered me this day, and have righted myself: I know I shall be grievously complained of, but trust your honor will not see me wronged. My lord governor might have taken a better course with me: for ever since his coming I have respected him more than ordinary—"but I think it is in his natur to offer wronge to all offisers neare wheare he lives, and then thinkes with his feyne frasis and smothe spechis, to make alle good of his seyd." I have written at large to the Council of my proceedings, and need not repeat it again. My lord's meaning was good, but his manner was to my disgrace: his letter came not to my hands till they had beset the house, and if Ogilvy had not been with me before at my own house, and so I knew where he was, they would have had him out of my March before I knew: which my lord would have excused it by his letter, but things fell out otherwise than he looked for. Such disgrace has never been done before by one officer to another in these parts: they have always dealt by interchange of letters—"but my lord teachis them all new dissiplyn in Barwick, and so meanes to proseed in the cuntry by teching us new fashions to his owne liking, thoughe never so muche offensive to his neighbor offisers. I will leave my lord and his busey hed, and let him aleage what he can agaynst me, I trust his false suggestions shall have no pouer to hurt me: I will be as honist in my actions to my prince and cuntry as his good lordship shall ever be, if not honister. I think your honor is acquaynted with the Lard of Poure Ogleby for he tould me when he cam to my house, he had bin at our Court and that he had bin with your honor; and now sins his taking, he tels me he had writen a letter to your honor in caracters, which Captayn Ager hathe to Barwick with him.

"His servant that is taken with him is caled Jan Batista Nancy an Italion borne at Aquila." I let none speak with them, and wait your pleasure: meantime warranting their safe keeping. Woodrington. Signed: Ro. Carey.

pp. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed.

1319. Sir R. Carey to Cecil. [Jan. 14.]

Having conferred with Ogilvy, he tells me (if it is true) "of sum privat coursis to be holden betwen your honor and him self: and that he had tould you of those letters he sent to the King his master, which are nowe enterseptid by my lord governer, and that it was concludid betwen you that your enterchange of letters should be by my lord of Durham, and desirid me to give him leve to wright to your honor. Supposing with my self it to be trew that he tould me, I thought it not amis to grant his request, and therfore have sent his letter to your honor. When I asked his meaning to set another name then his owne to his letter, he tould me it was so agreed betwen your honor and himself, that he should wright his name as he hathe "dun, and that in your letters to him you should name your self 'Charls Ogle.'"For all this free dealing, I let no one confer with him but myself and my servants attending him, and will keep both him and his man safe, till your farther pleasure.

My only excuse in not writing all this time as to Sir William Eure's proceedings, was to hear from the party who first informed me: and now I find he made great show of knowing much, but in effect knows little; for on inquiry he can tell me no more than that Sir William came to a private conference with the King to Spot about the last of October, and that Sir William was lodged at a place called the Loches within a mile of Spot. This is all, and I think few in Scotland of any rank but know as much or rather more: so pardon me troubling you "thus eydly," and hereafter I will know more before I take advertisements in hand.

It concerns me greatly to be at Court soon, as I will inform you at my coming: I pray you procure my leave now when I can be best spared, the country quiet, and my deputy very sufficient. I repose my trust in this and all things, only in your honor and none else, and will ever be an honest man to you. Signed: Ro. Carey.

1 p. Holograph; also address. Indorsed. Wax signet: swan with crescent on breast.

1320. Scrope to Cecil. [Jan. 16.]

Having continued on my place this winter season, and the spring of the year drawing near, the country in good quiet, and my occasions at Court urging me, I must importune you for her Majesty's leave to come to London for dispatch thereof. Carlisle castle. Signed: Th. Scroope.

½ p. Addressed. Indorsed. Wafer signet as before.

1321. Willoughby and Bowes to Cecil. [Jan. 20.]

This gentleman, Mr James Swenoe the bearer, being "checqued and putt from his pencion of xxd per diem," by the auditor's refusal to allow it in my the treasurer's account, and finding himself thus not only disabled in his living but disgraced in this place "where he is borne," and served so many years: has drawn a supplication to "the honorable boord," whereto I the lord governor, I the treasurer, and Sir William Reed, have severally attested his merit: commending him and his petition to your honor.

For your better satisfaction of his worthiness, we think it our duty in one word to say, that when we entered the Queen's service here, both at one time, "we found not one more able to lead both horse and foote, or for knowledge of Scotland, and of the Borders. In which things (now that Sir William Read is growne impotent by age) we fynd few in this garrison to match this gentleman in sufficiency." Berwick. Signed: P. Wyllughby, Will'm Bowes.

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed. Wax signet (Bowes): damaged.

1322. Scrope to Cecil. [Jan. 20.]

You may see by the examinations sent herewith in my lord of Carlisle's letter, how careful he is for the good of the country.

I must give you great thanks for the Privy Council's letter to our gentlemen, which I hope will work good effect in this poor country.

I hope by your means, my leave to come up may be easily effected: the time of year serving well. Carlisle. Signed: Th. Scroope.

1 p. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed.

1323. Sir R. Carey to Cecil. [Jan. 24. 1600–1.]

Reminding him of his suit for leave—that his poor estate depends on it—praying him to be "ernist" with her Majesty. Sends the bearer to get his answer. Woodrington. Signed: Ro. Carey.

½ p. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed. Swan wafer signet.

1324. Sir W. Bowes to the Laird of Ayton, &c. [Jan. 24.]

"My most loving freindes in the Lord. Having received your severall lettres instantly, together with a copic of your comission to the presbitry, in this my thronge of many businesses, I request you to accept my answere.

"You know that I am a mynister for the state here, and therefore am of duty bound to arcana Imperii, so as I may not satisfy your request directly, according to your and my owne desire, in the matter of Pury Ogleby. Yett thus muche I must say on the Churches behalfe, which is and ever shalbe deare unto me as my spirituall moother, that the gentleman seemes to me, by that I have seen, a dangerous instrument against God and his churche, the perticulers whereof are suche as I may not with my duty and safety comunicate, except with them under whose pouer I live, and whose counsells they are, so longe as they will have them counsells.

"You in your wisdomes are not ignorant how the matters of the churche and the state are enterlaced: besides by experience I have been taught how dangerous credulitie is in th'affaires of princes, especially in matters received from professed practisers, and suche as have sold them selves over to worke deceipt: of which kind this man seemeth to be. So farr as concerneth meerly religion, I understand the man (whome hitherto I have not seen) professeth him selfe a Romane Catholique: and that I am easely drawne to beleive, by my sight of his Agnus Dei, hostes, and suche like Romishe trifles, cætera Deus et dies. And so," &c. Berwick. Will'm Bowes.

¾ p. Copy by his clerk. Indorsed perhaps by Bowes: "Coppy of a lettre from Sir William Bowes to the Laird of Ayton and Mr William Hog," &c.

1325. Sir R. Carey to Cecil. [Jan. 26.]

I present this gentleman to your favor, desiring your honor to grace him with your countenance: for he truly deserves it for his labour and pains in keeping the country quiet. He can satisfy you in any point of Border matters: and has something to impart on the state of Scotland, wherein he will be ready to do your pleasure.

I hope for my letter with my leave before you receive this: "if not good sir, sent it me downe by Mr Woodrington when he returns." Woodrington. Signed: Ro. Carey.

½ p. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed: ". . . By Mr Woodrington."

1326. R. Musgrave to Cecil. [Jan. 27.]

Your honorable brother my lord Burghley, gave me notice that some of the Council were informed that I sought the office of deputy warden of Carlisle, "to some ende unbefitting that place": wherein I desire your honor to vouchsafe to hear the following:—

When Lord Scrope, the Bishop, and all gentlemen of worth in the country, were in consultation at Carlisle for reform of the outrages and spoils in those parts, they all set their hands to certain articles (to be confirmed by your honor) mentioning (among other things) their desire to have me deputy warden. Whereon some of the Graymes, fearing justice for their continual crimes, delivered informations to be presented to your honors, wherein if one word be true, or one honest man's hand be subscribed, "lett me receave the blame of that imputacion." For the Dacres: "if ever in theire greatnes (or since) there hath not ben a mortall and unreconsilable enmety betwene our bowses, for the space of theis three hundred yeares, then lett me forever want your honnorable favor." Humbly craving pardon for my boldness. Signed: Rychard Musgrave.

½ p. Addressed. Indorsed. Fragment of wax signet.

1327. Willoughby to Cecil. [Jan. 29.]

"That moste mightie hande of God, that hath moved your excellent spirit in the high place wherin you are, to doe me those exceeding offices of kindnes and favour to my dread soveraine: and stirred you up to releive my reputation, so fowly and innocently blacked before your honorable table,—I doubt not but will also bless me with some issue of gratitude towards you for these cordialls received in the bed of my affliction: or at leaste that He himself will send you a full measure of his bounty, answerable to your vertues of goodnes and equity."

For Sir Robert Carey and his proceedings in "Pure Oglevy," I look neither "on my right hand, nor on my left of my owne interesses, so God and her Majestie be served": and Sir Robert had no cause of discontentment, my only end was the man's apprehension. My doubts were his continual resort and kindness with Sir Robert's inward friends, "I (fn. 1) and to his owne table." Though never doubting his forwardness for service, I thought how easily some underhand intelligence might cause his escape. It is untrue that I sent 50 horse, the number appointed was but 30, and only 15 went, quietly divided in 3 troops. The letter to himself was not stayed as pretended: and when he came with a great part of his wardenry (showing his warning was sufficient) the prisoner was in the hands of 5 of my men only, who gave him up, grieving more at his hard speeches against me, than the delivery. I might have claimed this precedent: 12 years since Mr Raphe Grey of Chillingham as a justice of peace, took this same man in my lord his father's wardenry, sent him to my lord your father, and was justified in his action. Surely when our one end is to serve her Majesty, it is hard we should fall out among ourselves! Whatever her Majesty shall think fit herein, I take well. "I have been wonderfully, God is my wittnes, in these late garboyles mistaken: yf the begining of things were lookd unto, and the conditions of quiet that I offered, yt would then appeare how they have chased me lik a partridg in a mountaine, and forced me both contrary to my nature, and infirmity, to these troblesom appollogies." Berwick. Signed: P. Wyllughby.

pp. Hand resembling Willoughby's. Addressed. Indorsed.


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