Border Papers volume 2: December 1601

Pages 776-779

Calendar of Border Papers: Volume 2, 1595-1603. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1896.

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1431. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [Dec. 6. 1601.]

I have even now received this packet, but durst not stay it to let you know of the Duke of Lennox's arrival, which I am expecting, and have sent out horsemen to meet him. There are many Scottish noblemen and gentlemen here awaiting him, but I believe he will "deseave them all," for none of his servants are yet come. Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

½ p. Holograph. Addressed. Indorsed. Wax signet: damaged.

1432. John Musgrave to Scrope. [Dec. 7.]

Sending him copy of letter from the Laird Johnston touching Geordies Sandie, Davie Grame of the Milleis, and Fergus Wille for resetting Sandies Rynyon and his "bayrns," who burned Johnston's mill of Corrie, and were at the hership of Bengall: for his directions. He hears credibly that Sandies Rynyon, &c., were reset at Geordies Sandie's house last Wednesday night.

The Scotts and Ellottes have again been spoiling the Grames, and the latter the former, like to cause more "combre." Notwithstanding Scrope's assurance (at Mr Pickering's suit) to Andrew Grayme of the Myll, including one Geordie Heatherton of West Linton: yet "Thome of Tholscheils" and some of the soldiers by the captain's order have taken 2 horses and Heatherton's insight, and refuse to redeliver them. Carlisle. Signed: John Musgrave.

1 p. Addressed. Indorsed by Cecil's clerk. Wax signet (Musgrave.)

Inclosed in the same:—

(Johnston to Musgrave.)

Complaining that while he was at Court, his mill of Corrie was burnt by Sandies Rynyon, &c., who are reset by Geordies Sandie and two others. As he cannot believe Musgrave will oversee them within his bounds, craves early redress, as also for the "heirschipp of Bengall whilk they folkes commytted" since Lord Scrope departed. Lochmaben Castle 29 November 1601. Johnston.

¾ p. Copy by Musgrave's clerk. Addressed: "To the right worschipfull and his assured frend, Mr John Musgrave of Caterlen, warden depute," &c. Indorsed: "Copie," &c.

1433. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [Dec. 17.]

I received your letter of 2d on the 6th hereof, and sent the inclosed packet to Mr Nicolson, which was with him 2 or 3 days before the Duke: who came not to this town till the 8th, and stayed a whole day.

Touching that part of your letter as to Holy Island, &c., it is true that Sir William Read has a "pattent" for the keeping it during his own life and his son William Read's life: "but howe good that will prove to yonge Williame I knoe not—for that when the yonge man was borne his motheres husband was alive, and Ser Williame Reades owen wife was alive, so as bey lawe I thinke his pattent will not prove good." Besides he is very unfit for such a charge, being a "boun companyon " and loving good company better than to be tied to necessary attendance. It is very unfit that any man but the Governor of Berwick have it: for without the one the other can not be kept, they are so necessary to each other to serve the turn, for if the enemy took the island, we could neither get victuals nor shipping here, and they might starve us in Northumberland. So I refer the matter to your wisdom.

For the Earl of Huntly's offer by Gethe, I shall as you direct, let it fall. Yet I would have been glad that it might have been accepted at the least with thanks, if but to have kept them from doing ill, for no man living in Scotland has more power to harm her Majesty, and therefore is worth keeping in good terms. But I have only done my duty in signifying it to your honor. Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

1 p. Holograph; closely written. Addressed. Indorsed. Swan wax signet.

1434. Sir John Carey to Cecil. [Dec. 18.]

I must recommend an information delivered to me yesterday, to your consideration. I am in some doubt whether it proceeds "of sume newe fear and malles to gether," conceived by the party against his master; but having got it from him, who would needs deliver it, protesting that he would at once come and justify it before your honor whenever called on, I first took his oath on a book that he had set down nothing but the truth, and made him set his hand to it with 2 witnesses, as you may see. He says much more which he either dare not or will not tell me: but will declare all when in presence of the lords of the Council.

This was what passed between them: this Roger Muschampe was the said Thomas Kar's man and much trusted by him: but lately Master Kar brought him to me and charged him with stealing his corn—whereon I sent him with a "mittemus" to gaol, but on the way Sir William Read, as a justice of peace, bailed him. Whereon Muschampe, being bailed to answer law, went home to his house: which Master Kar hearing, sent for him and ordered him, his wife, and family to leave it, and as the man says, drew his sword on him in his own house and followed him out of doors to have done him some mischief, if he had not been warned. So Muschampe having lost his living and being in fear of his life, I sent for Master Kar to take order between them. But before my letter came, he had gone to Sleyford, "to thoes Kares of Lingcolnesher to kepe his Crismas," where he will be found now.

If you prosecute him, I shall have the deadly feud of all his great friends (who are many) in this country, if his trouble is known to come from me: therefore his man should come up and justify his own doings. Berwick. Signed: Jhon Carey.

Your honor will please conceal from his great friends at Court or London, it proceeds from me: wherein they will be very inquisitive. Yet use it as pleases yourself.

1 p. Holograph; very closely written. Addressed. Indorsed. Swan wax signet.

Inclosed in the same:—

(Muschamp's information.)

First: —When Lord Willoughby, then Governor, was at Court about March (42 Eliz.), Mr John Guevara his deputy, hearing the King was expected near this March, forbade by open proclamation, any English gentleman or others to enter Scotland, or "file the Marches" without the lord warden's or his special licence. While the King was at Lord Roxburgh's house "the Friers," 3 miles from the March, Thomas Carr rode from his house of Foord, with James Nicholson a Scotsman, both in blue caps and grey cloaks, between 9 and 10 o'clock at night to the Friers, and were taken privately by Lord Roxburgh to the King's chamber, conferring with him 2 hours, when Carr offered his service to the King: who accepted it, and drank to him in wine, offering to pleasure him with any "adoes" he had in Scotland.

At Whitsunday after, the said Carr, as he promised Lord Roxburgh, rode to Edinburgh, with his brother Mr William Carr, Captain John Selby (his brother-in-law), William Reade the younger, Francis Broade, pensioner, Valentyne Weast, soldier, and David Armorer, his only counsellor. Also in her Majesty's 42d and 43d years he had many trysts, &c., with Lord Roxburgh, every month or 20 days in summer, so secretly, that he took horse at midnight, accompanied with Nicolson or Armorer only.

The said Carr for a contempt he made on a "poast" with a packet of letters from Newcastle, was sent for by the Queen's pursuivant, but by Lord Willoughby's favor, was discharged on only paying his fees: whereon he spoke thus in Berwick in Roger Muschamp's hearing: "'I would rather be damned body and soule, then I wrought not those base roges some villanye,' that should send any villayne pursevant for him; and that they were not worthy to be counsailors that should send for ani gentillman in that sorte—farther wishinge that he had Secretori Cecill, that deformed body, that he might teare him in peeces! And not so surceasinge his malitious speeches against Secretori Cecill, but ofte, in his owne house, after the rebellion of the Erie of Essexe, he wold often wishe, that he had Secretori Cecill in his power, to teare in peeces, that he might save the Erle of Essex lyfe, whose overthrowe he was."

Farther the said Thomas Carr in his chamber in Lady Selby's house (his mother-in-law) at Berwick, spoke thus of our sovereign lady: "Were she gon, then men might be sett by, but as long as she lived, men wold not be cared for." And other speeches, which I dare not set down, but will declare before the Council (with pardon). Roger Muschampe his marke. Witnesses: John Houdspeth, Tho. Tomkins. Taken on his oath before me this 17th December 1601.

2 pp. A broad sheet, in one writing. Indorsed: "Articles against Mr Thomas Carr of Foord, in the countie of Northumberland, esquier."

(1) Copy in another hand.

2 pp. Broad sheet. Indorsed by Cecil?

1435. Scrope to the Privy Council. [Dec. 1601.]

Touching the miserable estate and plight of the West March.

I crave pardon to speak again, though I have often declared and foretold the desolation now "consommat, and heerafter past recure," without immediate aid.

1. The outer border backward to service, the towns disabled, and the "ynnelands" men weak and distracted.

2. The waters of Esk and Leven, inhabited by the Grames and Armstrangs, broken men, married and in near kindred and kindness with the Scots opposite, all mingled and "cohabiting" together: whereby the Scots make incursions as far as Peareth, by aid of their English friends, without shout or cry! The lamentable forays since my departure at Brampton, Stannix, Corbie, and about Carlisle, by some of these, and the Carletons, fugitives for murders, &c., chief leaders, show their dealings.

3. Bewcastle, Gilsland, &c., late the Lord Dacres, where there were "wount to bee ( ) able horsmen" now not "( )" are now beggared and "depeopled" by these inroads, and partly by the "ill carriage" of the officers; as Rowkley, late under Henry Leighe, and more so in Bewcastle under Thomas Musgrave—allowing the Scots free access by day or by night.

4. As for the towns, viz., this city, Brampton, Peareth, and the rest,—their service was usually by foot, but by sickness, dearth, &c., they are so wasted, that a very small number might surprise the city itself, as appeared lately.

5. For the body and inner part of this March: the mortal contentions and feuds of the chief gentlemen (partly known to your honors), make their service of small importance—well known to our incorrigible opposites, and our own evil doers. "As noe warden can serve without them, no more can he serve by them, where ther is no union nor kindness."

6. For Westmerland: their distance, &c., deprives the border of their aid—they cannot be levied suddenly, they are not expert in the fells, nor in border stratagems; the enemy are forewarned and ready for them, and except in an open invasion, they are no help to the warden.

7. This March is opposed to the best horsemen and worst offenders in the Scottish borders, strong and many in number: and their masters being their wardens, and using them in their own contentions, avoid or protract justice for their inroads here. The warden can neither pursue them, nor his English outlaws with them, except by a garrison always in readiness.

8. The old deadly feuds of some of these chief surnames of Scotland, are lately revived against the chief gentlemen and "leale" men of this March: so the latter must either be put to the sword, or quit their dwellings, or make dishonourable compositions, to the hurt of their own neighbours.

9. "It is in vulgar tradition (which your honors do knowe)" that in the time of former wardens this March was always fortified with a competent garrison of horse and foot—and assuredly in its present state it needs them now, in this fit season when food for horse and man is most abundant, and I their warden had rather lose life and estate than live helpless to them in their "dwyninge subvertion."

Lastly. If help was needful in my lord my father's time when he had the unbroken strength of Gilsland, Burgh, Bewcastle, and the Grames of Esk and Leven? much more now.

pp. Holograph: also Indorsement: "The Lord Scroopes intimation of the decaies and estate of the West Marches, with his requisition of ayde."

1436. Abstract of Harding's debt. [Dec. 1601.]

State of Harding's debts, how far they have hitherto come to the Queen as yet known at Berwick.

[A recapitulation of the dispute between the late Lord Governor and the marshal formerly detailed, and how the money was appropriated since in whole or part]. "The making good whereof hath much troubled the lords with untrue suggestions, that not the paye but an imprest was made by the Treasurer to hir Majesties garryson. So as this gould of Hardings may well be tearmed Tolosanum aurum, so well knowne in the Romane proverbe"!

1 p. Contemporary official hand. Indorsed.