East Indies: October 1623

Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 4, 1622-1624. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1878.

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'East Indies: October 1623', in Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 4, 1622-1624, (London, 1878) pp. 155-172. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/east-indies-china-japan/vol4/pp155-172 [accessed 14 April 2024]

Oct 1623

Oct. 1.
328. Henrie Wollman to the East India Company. Has been a long time in India in their employment, being left here by Capt. Keeling, and has obtained both "Molaye and Portingale language." Has lived in Amboyna, under George Muschamp, and made account to come home in the Palsgrave with him; but President Fursland sent him merchant for Acheen on the Elizabeth, with a cargo of Surat cloth, which came in the Discovery to Jacatra, where he found Geo. Robinson, chief of the factory, Ric. Allen and John Coward, his assistants. Arrived at Acheen 2 May 1623, and by end of Sept. had laden the ship with pepper. The King of this place hath taken great distaste against Robinson, and forbidden him his presence, in that Robinson is "not so beneficial by presents" as Nicolls was, who gave a very ill precedent by his large gifts. Could wish all their servants were indued with some of Robinson's qualities. Beseeches them to consider his poor salary, which is but 13l. 4s. per annum, and the place he is able to discharge in their employments. Robinson proceeds upon the ship, and he remains in his place with a small remainder of goods against the arrival of the next ship. The Elizabeth takes 1,955 bahars of pepper, every bahar being 380 lbs. English. Has had many "malignant friends," being he came out a sailor and has attained to a better place than some of them; but refers himself to those who know him, Messrs. Muschamp and Methwold. Endorsed, "Henry Woolman, in Acheen, 1 Octr. 1623. He is now chief factor in Acheen. Recd. by the Elizabeth." [One page and a half. O.C., Vol. X., No. 1119.]
Octr. 1–15. 329. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Request of Moore, a nailor, to leave, as he cannot give the Company content, and to put another in his place. Letters of Daniel White and John Slade, containing divers accusations against Capts. Clevenger and Browne, for embezzling goods in the Manilla voyages, to be particularly handled on Friday afternoon next; as also the release of John Slade's wages. Report of Westrow and Abdy, that Daniel White the purser's goods being but 80 pieces, they were delivered to him; that Capt. Weddall had 458 pieces, and Mr. Monnox 900; and also that Capt. Weddall had 60 cwt. of pepper. The Court concluded to take Weddall's pepper at the price they bought theirs, and for his calicoes, "to gratulate his well deservings," were concontented to deliver them free of freight, provided he shipped them out; and in consideration of his good services in bringing the Jonas and Lion into the Downs, without stopping anywhere, to allow him a gratuity of 100l. He was called in and thankfully accepted the Company's kindness. Mr. Monnox's goods not to be handled till he should give further account of himself. Speedy provision to be made of wants advised by Capt. Swann, of the Charles. Capt. Blythe to be sent for, to manifest that his clearing was merely by mistake of his name for another, the Company not using to pass by men of his quality without further consideration. Models of a galliot, showed by Capt. Weddall, that might be sailed with eight men to the Indies, and manned with 60 men, with 18 oars aside, would be vessels of good defence and of special use for the conveyance of goods which are with danger carried by land, and would also command the frigates which now disturb the passage in the river. Mr. Stevens to confer with Weddall about building two of them to go with this present fleet. The Court, taking notice of Capt. Weddall's readiness in offering his services, fell into consideration how to treat with him upon a new employment this year for Surat. He first demands 40 marks a month, but the Court desired him to clear his thoughts to make a second demand, the former being over much. It was finally concluded to give him 200l per annum, and 50l. towards his setting out, which he thankfully accepted. Declaration of George Muschamp, a merchant, now returned in the Palsgrave, of his services and misfortunes by the loss of a leg; the Court took notice of his good reputation in India, and therefore bestowed a gratuity of 100l. upon him. Being demanded what he required for a second voyage, he asked 250l. per annum; the Court thought 150l. would be a competent allowance, but he accepted not of it, and so was dismissed for the present. The wages of Thomas Trewman, formerly stayed by the Lord Mayor, having been settled for the good of the children, ordered to be paid. Robert Fotherby's wages advanced to 80l. per annum, to execute the offices of clerk of the stores, yard, and check. Nich. Crispe [? Cripps], having given Capt. Clevenger satisfaction for having challenged to fight with him, is to receive his wages; also John Johnson, master of the Rose. 40s. bestowed on John Jaye, who lost the use of an arm by a wound from a poisoned arrow, at the island of "Mintam" (?) Petition of John Stanbridge for debts due from Thomas Jackson, deceased; is referred to the churchwardens of Stepney, to whom the Company have promised Jackson's wages for maintenance of his children. One month's wages of Mathew Spurgeon allowed to Margaret, his wife, whose extreme want "was certified under the hands of the churchwarden, collector, constable, sideman, and hedborough of Lymehouse." Part of his wages allowed to Stephen Norris, who came away from the Indies without leave. Gratuity to Ann Moore, widow. Petition of Judith Hubbert for the wages of her servant, Henry Blakeler, who ran away from the Company's service; but the Court answered there were no wages due to those that run away. Petition of Thos. Wilkinson, in reference to William Winckworth; he is to be dismissed as unfit the Company's service, "having been a tapster and never at sea." John Roberts, late master of the Lesser James, to have 20l. on account of wages. Petition of Richard Porter, Henry Davies, John Drewitt, Ralph Thompson, John Wright, and Godfrey Jacob, complaining of the hardness of their voyage to the Moluccas, by the space of 18 months, suggesting many scandalous pretences to the disparagement of the Company's service; but the Court conceiving them to be idle, would give no way to their request for gratification.
Oct. 3.—Peter Bell, purser of the Ruby, in the Molucca voyage, affirmed that the suggestions intimated in the "scandalous petition" of Richard Porter and others (before mentioned) were unjust, and signified that Lumkin, the gunner, once in a vain idle humour boiled the feet and skin of a goat, but had no necessity, the ship being stored with rice and other provisions such as the place would afford. The petitioners were called in and said the goat skins were boiled two or three times, and pottage made thereof, but confessed that the "buds of trees and grass," which they pretended were boiled for their relief, were "good sallets," to be eaten with other meats. Bell affirmed that the ship's company would not content themselves with three flesh meals a week, as allowed by the President and Council, but had five, by reason whereof, being in a place where no flesh was to be had, they wanted flesh about five months, but had divers other provisions. The Court held it necessary "to question these men for this scandalous petition," and ordered that none of them hereafter be employed in the Company's service, except John Wright, who certified that the others had used his name in the petition, but he had never heard it read. Elliott, chief mate to Capt. Swann, not being "a man of government and command," the Court nominated Mr. Bix to take command in case of mortality, and Mr. Ellam was "required to make his boxes of succession accordingly." Mr. Muschamp, having taken time to consider the Company's propositions, accepts the salary of 150l. yearly offered him, but desires to be employed for Surat. Concerning Beversham's wages. An offer to buy 40 or 50 bales of silk; also a project to buy all the Company's silk and deliver it in France. [Edw.] Monnox being called in, Mr. Deputy briefly recapitulated his errors and miscarriages in Persia, and appointed Wednesday next to hear his business, wherewith he rested satisfied, protesting he shall be well able to answer all objections against him. To take care in choosing Muscovia cordage, as it is affirmed to be made of bad hemp. John Wood, who went out master of the Little James, and was sent home by the President as good for nothing and debauched in his carriage, demanded his wages; he said he was never a drunkard, but since his coming home Mr. Bell protested he had seen him led between two women; to receive payment for the time he served in the James. 2d. per lb. to be abated of the price of nutmegs. Committees entreated to make collections both against [Wm.] Methwold and [Edw.] Monnox, by Wednesday. John Pashley entertained to go master's mate in the Charles, at 4l. 10s. per month. Committees to advise with Mr. Treasurer Stone concerning the debts upon bills, &c. Wages of John Tombles. Gratuity to William Crascombe, who fell from the main-yard of the London and broke his leg. Request of Richard Wood, in reference to 102 ryals stolen from him by Anthony Bellingham. Consideration of the objections against Capt. Clevenger and Mr. Browne, exhibited by Daniel White, purser; some acknowledged to be true, and some utterly denied: appointed to be heard on Tuesday, by which time the purser is required to make a valuation of the goods detained by the captain and master for pillage, and to inform himself what pillage was allowed to the Dutch. Ordered that Mr. Lanman to make ready the account of Ormuz.
Oct. 6.—Twenty-five oxen bought at 17s. 6d. per cwt., and 300 hogs at 22s. per cwt., for salting. Some thought 500 oxen will be the least the Company should need, it being very requisite to have 100 in provision always. Petition of William Bennett, who came home prisoner in the James, "cunningly confessing the charge of 2,800 ryals put upon him by the President and factors in India, but not acknowledging himself debtor for it;" the Court observing his obstinacy and cunning, willed him to trouble them no more with petitions. Concerning the accounts of Ormuz given to the President of Surat by Edwin Guy, purser of the London, and Robert Smith, purser of the Jonas, the first accounting for pillage or purchase, and the other for entertainment; the pursers and Capt. Weddall to attend and give further reasons on Wednesday next. Discussion about calling a General Court for the division of calicoes and other business, some complaining of the present course, which complaint was backed by a message from Lord Brooke, "with some addition of some dislike of government, mariners hardly dealt with, [and that] the opinion of some few in the committee overswade the rest." Mr. Deputy to wait on his Lordship and satisfy him "of these subjections," and of the committee's management of affairs; resolved to debate the matter at the next Court.
Oct. 7.—Petition of Robert Stacy, cook of the Lion, concerning tallow; it is answered that the cooks have formerly taken tallow as a fee or "vales," but for prevention of abuse the Company have of late taken away those fees. Examination of the objections against Capt. Clevenger and Mr. Browne, exhibited in 10 articles by the purser, Daniel White, concerning goods taken at the Moluccas and converted to their own use. The Court, considering the many dangers and difficulties that these men had passed through and their good services, and finding that howsoever the purser had well discharged his duty in these informations, few of the objections were material, some being acknowledged and others denied, were in a straight how to proceed, but in fine the captain and master were required to give bond in 500l., to be accountable for what shall hereafter be proved against them, and not to take exceptions against the purser, who had but performed his duty, whereto they readily consented.
Oct. 8.—About victualling the four ships now bound for Surat; it was thought necessary to provide 600 oxen and 1,500 hogs. Capts. Weddall and Clevenger and Mr. Browne affirm that beef is better than pork for such as go to the southward, because they have rice and no bread; ordered therefore that the proportion be half beef and half pork. Report of the solicitor that [Adam] Denton "at last seal" had moved that his bills in the Company's hands might be brought into Court; the solicitor to move the lord keeper for first bringing in the money due by them. Committee appointed, on the motion of the solicitor, to examine, with Sir John Walter, the proceedings against [George] Ball. Richard Swanley, at the instance of Capt. Weddall, commander of the Surat fleet, entertained master of the James, at 6l. per month. Concerning the arrears of Lady Dale to the new and old stocks. Pursers Edwin Guy and Robert Smith questioned as to why the hire of the ships at Ormuz was not paid by the Persian according to agreement; Capt. Weddall said [Edw.] Monnox could give account. Debate as to whether the former order should stand for exportation of calicoes, or that the Company should divide upon stock to sell in town; no reason could be produced to alter what formerly upon mature deliberation had been determined, and it was objected that the selling in town would disparage the reputation of the Company, as was instanced in pepper brought home by Sir James Lancaster, which was divided upon stock, and "every man striving to put off his pepper," it fell from 2s. to 14d. the pound. Sir John Wolstenholme and Mr. Deputy complain that some of the committees have given it out to the generality that by means of Mr. Deputy Abbott the farmers have drawn great sums from the Company before they were due, to serve the King's occasions; Sir John desired the Court to right the farmers by examining the business, otherwise he would cause it to be examined elsewhere; and delivered his opinion, that if any of this committee should hold conventicles with the generality, and therein censure the government of the Company, such a man were unfit to sit in this Court; inquiry to be made into the matter. Sir John then made known that the Lord Treasurer desires to borrow 12,000l. of the Company for the King's occasions, at 10 per cent. interest; it was replied that when the Company formerly disbursed money to furnish the King's occasions they had money by them, but now they have it not, and therefore cannot do it; howsoever the accounts of custom and import are ordered to be perfected, and then the Company will consider what to do therein. The usual quantity of spices to be given to the committees as formerly allowed. Letter to be written to Mr. Barlow to deliver 200l. to the Lord Ambassador [Carleton] as a gratification for favours done the Company, and 500 "Niccanees" to be sent to Mr. Barlow; a letter also to be written to the Lord Ambassador to certify the Company's respect and thankfulness. New committees chosen for the buying of provisions and for managing the Company's business in other departments, this not having been done since July 1621; the names of each committee are set down and the business they have to manage.
Oct. 10.—Mr. Mynn desired a General Court to be called, at which a review might be taken of what had passed concerning the calicoes, and would not name the committee from whence he had the report about the farmers. Opinion of Mr. Burton that the order should be altered and liberty given to sell calicoes in town. Mr. Treasurer Stone said 10,000l. was paid for the use of the King, but the Company have 10 per cent. for it. Mr. Mynn held it very unfit that any one man should be both deputy and a farmer, because farmers gain by these exportations [of calicoes], &c.; long debate thereon: the Court commended Mr. Deputy's upright carriage in this business. In conclusion it was resolved to call a General Court, at which a review might be taken of what had passed, and such order enacted as should be thought meet. Concerning one Wood, a surgeon, returned in the Palsgrave, whether to send him to the doctors to be examined or not; he is entertained to go in the James, having served the Company long and being approved by the President and Capts. Weddall and Clevenger. Edward Pike and Peter Bell to receive wages. Appointment for election of pursers, mates, stewards, factors, &c. for the next fleet. Edward Seagar, purser general, ordered to perfect his books. Demand of the mother and executrix of Richard Eman, late purser of the Ruby, about the wages and debts of her son; deferred. Petition of Sybilla Rynd to the King, underwritten by a master of requests, to allow her 30l. per annum till her husband return; the petition is stuffed with false suggestions, but is referred. Part of Jackson's estate, who died in the Indies, to be paid to the overseers of the poor of Ratcliff to bind apprentices his two children left "in their hamlet."
Oct. 13.—Letters read from the Charles, in Margate Road, from Capt. Swann and Mr. Hayes, signifying that 160 men were aboard; the Court took this business into serious consideration, as much importing the life of their trade that there be no want of men to man their ships in the Indies and bring ships home, and ordered that 180 at least should proceed in the Charles, and that seamen be entertained in the Downs to make up that complement. About the suit between Mr. Decrow and Mr. Chamberlain concerning the debt of Mrs. Harrison and Mr. Kirby to the Joint Company (East India and Muscovy). The accounts of money and goods taken at Ormuz delivered by the pursers Guy and Smith to be audited. Report of Mr. Deputy that [Edw.] Monnox had been found to be very foul in all the objections against him, that he went out poor and hath had 30 bales of private trade at one time, and was ever contentious, both towards his superiors and inferiors; the business once more to be heard on Tuesday next. Calicoes stolen from the backyard; none but packing porters to come there, who should be answerable, and the porter of the gate to look carefully that no suspicious persons loiter about the house. The giving of spices to the committees referred until Mr. Governor might be present. Concerning the calling of a General Court for dividing and shipping out calicoes. The objections against the farmers a mere calumny, but trenched so deeply into the government that it concerns the Committees to vindicate themselves from such aspersions, "these indignities being intollerable and not to be connived at by the committees." Roe and Johnson tender their services to be employed as masters; Johnson dismissed as unfit, Roe to be conferred with. Mr. Friday desired to tender his service to the Company in "a sermon of thanksgiving," and received answer that they will acquaint Mr. Governor therewith.
Oct. 15.—Resolved plainly to declare that the cause of calling the generality together was to consider the order made at the last General Court for division of calicoes to be exported. Concerning pepper and calicoes belonging to Capt. Weddall; he acknowledged having sold 25 bales of gumlac to [Edw.] Monnox. Certificates and other writings from the President and Council in India presented by Jackson to justify Spalding's proceedings, who also moved for payment of 1,100l.; referred to another Court. Capt. Weddall presented the names of Capt. Clevenger and Messrs. Browne, Roe, Johnson, Evans, Pynn, and Phellpes as fit to undertake prime places in the next fleet. [Edward] Monnox having been found foul in almost all the objections against him, but having submitted himself to the Court, it was ordered, after much debate, that he should allow the Company 250l. for all damages sustained by his means, repay the 600 larees detained by him on the Ormuz account, and the present from the Khan of Shiraz, which he converted to his own use, and pay freight for his calicoes at 3s. per book. Monnox conceived this censure too harsh, and being ordered to withdraw a second time, and the Court, "overcome by his submission," agreed to abate 50l. of the 250l., conditionally that he rested satisfied therewith, whereto he freely assented. Forty chests of coral have been ordered, the finer sort to come overland from Marseiles, and the coarser from Florence by sea. Commodities to be provided for Surat; and upon debate concerning the Red Sea trade, and the hope of trade at Ormuz, the following were ordered, viz.: 200 cloths, red and green; 30 tons of elephants' teeth, which sell to good profit; gold and silver lace; 40 or 50 pieces of satins, crimson and green, of Bologna or Florence; 200 tons of lead; 20 tons of iron to be sent in the next ship for Jacatra; 20 or 30 "bullioons" of quicksilver, and tapestries for 1,500l., that commodity yielding 50 per cent. profit: the committees to see Mr. Corsellis' tapestries, who is said to have good choice. No cloth of gold, tin, velvets, or amber beads to be sent this year, as they are found to yield no profit. Nothing owing to Mrs. Rynde's husband. Report of the treasurer that the payment of this division will require 20,000l., besides 3,000l. or 4,000l. to pay bills of exchange, and that there is but 3,000l. in cash, and desired the Court to nominate committees whose credits might be used to take up money for the present occasion; the warrants to be perused to see who may be entreated to stay for two or three months, in which time moneys will come in. Mr. Fortney to receive 10s. for translating French into English. Wages of John Slade, in the Palsgrave, stayed on complaint of Capt. Clevenger, to be paid. [Forty-three pages. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 144–184 and 194–197.]
Oct. 15 and 1624, Jan. 9.
330. William Bell, Thomas Barker, John Purefey, and John Haywarde to (the East India Company). Their last was dated "Spahan," 28th March, whereof they send a copy. After they had received his Majesty and the Company's letters, and had well weighed the resolution of either maintaining or dissolving their Persian trade, it was concluded on 16 June that Bell and John Benthall should repair to the Shah. On 26th they proceeded towards the Court, but being informed that the King was at Coogee, four "jornadas" from thence, and had made prohibition to any public person, without his licence to be admitted his presence, they addressed their letters to Aga Emeere, the secretary, and Mahomet Allibeg, "our mehmander or presenter, to solicit his Majesty," and seven days after received answer they might repair to Court; notwithstanding, on their arrival the Shah's intention was changed. They followed him to Noore and Damoan, where they received letters from Spahan, with enclosures from [Mr. Kirkham] the Consul at Aleppo, and Richard Wedmore, master of the Reformation; "what news is therein mentioned we shall (with grief) intreat your worships to accompany our sorrows with perusal of his own lines." Contrary to all expectations the King proceeded directly for Spahan, without making any stay or giving answer to any, whom following they overtook the next day and placed themselves where he must pass, whom approaching with due reverence they saluted, and he having sight of them called them unto him, and entered into familiar discourse concerning our King's health, whether they had brought a letter from him, but principally of the state of the Hollanders. He suffered them not once to mention their present business, and they could never after obtain speech of him till their arrival at Spahan, he going before with his women, and no man being suffered but eunuchs to come within a league of him. "The 24 of August he entered Spahan with all his ambassadors and guests, who accompanied him home to his own palace, and that day were feasted by him, where we delivered our King's Majesty's letter in public view, and he honorably received it, and showing it to the Tartar, Turkish, and Uzbeg Ambassadors, with the rest of the great men present, according to his custom pulling off the seal and reserving it in his bosom, returned the letter to be translated into Persian, which we having in readiness delivered the next day to his secretary, Aga Emeere, the King himself at parting with a smiling countenance, desiring that hereafter our King's Majesty would write to him in Persian, and he would return him answer in Francks." In answer to their grievances and requests for the better accommodation of the trade—through the troubles of Bagdad and some injuries by the Turk, as they well perceived by his disgracing the Ambassador of the Grand Signor, the King was grown to such a height of melancholy, that he forsook all company—his reply was, "till the arrival of our ships he would give no answer at all," but would grant them a firman to free them from all troubles [see ante, No. 226]. Mahomet Allibeg told them that the Khan of Shiraz being come to the city they should do well, in regard their principal business lay in his country to visit him, which they presently did. In his company they found Lalabeg and Mullayimbeg, and after divers compliments, complained that last year bringing but 53 bales of cloth, they could find no vent for them, neither receive silks but at so dear rates and great travail that they could get no profit, having, notwithstanding, so many years been always ready to furnish his country with all manner of commodities he could desire at reasonable rates. "Whereat Mullayimbeg was much daunted, Lalabeg having always formerly taken from us that commodity and he now refusing, but at a base price." The Khan willingly granted them a firman to free them from all Rahdars throughout his country. Camlets taken in barter for money, steel, china ware, morse-teeth, benjamin, gumlac, &c. Benthall was dispeeded to Shiraz with four bales of cloth and the aforesaid firman, the 28th of September. The Khan of Shiraz next day had much conference with the King in private; whereof having notice they sent their linguist to Aga Emeere, who was present at said conference, of whom as from the King he received the following answers, viz., that the King would not give them leave to build any house at Port, lest under the name of house they should make a castle, but that the Khan should give them two houses in Gumroon (Gombroon) to sit in. The Khan answered "why then brought you them hither and give them not leave to be gone, they have never yet wronged you, whereto he was silent." He then began to discourse of these Hollanders now come, that they had brought the King a present of 40 or 50 tomans, and that we this two years have brought nothing; to which the Khan replied that we had brought a coach of much worth, barrels of pieces, pictures, complete armour, &c., which himself requested, and being here arrived, would not be accepted; to what purpose should they bring another with so great cost and travel in vain. For particular demands he referred them to Mahomet Allibeg, to whom the King had given order to make known to them his pleasure concerning the taking his silk at one third money and two thirds commodities, that the King never made any such promise; they had to follow the King for silk, and to receive it where and at what price he would appoint, but it has now pleased him to appoint Mahomet Allibeg to do all their affairs. For abuse at Lar yearly offered by the Sultans there, he strictly charged the Khan, that upon the first complaint, he should cut off the Governor's head for example to others, and send it to Spahan. For Mr. Robin's debt, a session of justices should be called, and "if they could not prove his goods were in our hands at time of his death they should be restored." For Rahdars, the Khan has given them a firman to free them, also firmans for a house, wherever they would, and for recovery of an old debt from the mint master at Shiraz. The silk lost at Kasbin to be restored. For the other points of the Company's letter, some whereof are not much pertinent, and some not to be obtained, and again this King will not admit of any long discourse: stamping of money is a prerogative of the King, who has taken all the mints into his own hands, they could not think fitting to make such a proposition at present; he will not without first satisfaction, adventure his silk into the Khan's country. Touching the gains of the Turkey merchants, also the sale of cloth; the poverty of the people affords not such luring invitations as before the trade was known. Their whole stock employed in silk, before receipt of letter by the Blessing. According to order, two factors, Tho. Thompson and Christopher Rosons, have taken shipping for Surat. Having received the King's "mind," they dispeed a servant of their own by way of Tebriz for Aleppo, and will send a transcript by another messenger, very hard to provide, by reason of the troubles in Bagdad and Turkey. Now proceed to answer theirs of the 3rd March 1623, received the 17th September following. Are rejoiced to hear of the safe arrival of the two ships with silk, yet are sorry to hear it came so ill-conditioned for want of reimbaling. Answers in reference to the want in ryals of eight, and in the weight and measure of several commodities; there was once great suspicion of the Minister Mr. Cardro now with God; but it grieves them exceedingly to find their worships so bitter with them, for there is not (almost) any sort of commodity, but will dry much in hot countries. The reason why they wrote for tin, the price much advanced, and none could come but by their means. Cannot but a little wonder "we have so greatly faulted" in not advising the Company concerning the taking of Ormuz, considering how by three several expresses they have more or less touched something whereby their worships might understand Ormuz was taken both city and castle, and likewise Capt. Blythe, Capt. Weddall, and Mr. Monox's letters therein enclosed; who they hope ere this are safely arrived, and who must be accountable for all. Protest that notwithstanding Monox wrote them to take so many bales of silk on credit, which should be satisfied by the spoils, yet never could they see either penny, jewell, or commodity, but all were sold in Gombroon, at base rates, shared among themselves and what remained shipped for Surat. Touching the articles; the commanders carried away the original with them, wherein they have much wronged us for upon any difference with the Khan, they have not his hand and seal to show, wherefore they may please to send it by the next ships. Their ships may safely ride under the Castle of Ormuz, which the Persian has strongly fortified, enlarged that of Kishme, and erected a very strong one in Gombroon, and placed garrisons in all; but it may be doubted whether they will defend your ships from the Portugals, if protection of the castles reciprocally should be refused, wherein we know not what to say, you having given us no order. This present now sent they hope will be very acceptable to the King, and procure answer of their Sovereign's letter. Trust they will not so suddenly give over their trade with so mighty a monarch, who so well affecteth his Majesty, having in effect obtained their desires. Meantime they will make sale of the goods and invest the same in silk. Account of goods sold and those on hand; prices. Sugar yields good profit, and is in abundance spent by this country people. Cannot give account of Mr. Darell's goods, for he had employed for India, more than his whole estate in jewels, carpets, &c., and what remained was only his apparel. Concerning Robert Jefferies' estate; in John Benthall's hands. The Hollanders have attained Spahan, having brought 114 loads of cloves, nutmegs, benjamin, sandal-wood, and mace, 25,000 ryals in money, four bales of rich shashes (sic), and two of girdles, with some musk &c., all free of customs, and other charges; their principal giving out that he was an ambassador and the goods were a present for his Majesty, till he arrived within two days of Spahan. Sent to visit the Dutch and presented them, some being sick, with two large glasses of wine and other necessaries, but he (their principal) "being swelled up in pride, would never come to us, but expected first I should come visit him, which perceiving I would not do." On the sixth present, the King made a general feast for all his guests, whereto the Dutch were called, "who coming with trumpet before were in the magiliske (or place of banquet) placed under us." Upon the King's approach to view his guests, the Dutch rose up and saluted him to whom they "preferred their aars" (demands in the margin), to which his Highness only said this "what had they to do with Ormuz," they having formerly propounded to the Khan, that if he would deliver the castle into their hands, they would defend it against the Portugal "withal leaving them, and so passed into his magiliske." This day the Dutch delivered their present of spices, sashes, and girdles, to the value of 40 tomans, and had Mullayimbeg by the King appointed for their merchant, to whom they sold their goods for the sum of 5,000 tomans for which (the prices are noted,) they desired satisfaction in silk, but were not contented to pay at the rate of 50 tomans per load in what sort they pleased. Not herewith contented the King suddenly departed for Bagdad. Conceive their goods being in the King's hands, they must take what and where he pleaseth. "The pride of this man ["the Dutch principal"] doth still forbear to visit me expecting first I should see him notwithstanding he hath understood from the King's own mouth, that we are his ancient guests and he will have us respected. But let his memory drown with his pride." Send copies of the King's letters to "our Sovereign," and to the Khan of Shiraz, both which were dispeeded by the Blessing for Surat, that thereby his Majesty may be informed "how much this Emperor affects himself, his nation, and this trade." Desire their worships not hereafter to give them discouragement in the prosecution of their affairs the difficulty whereof is only known to the employed. Have sent double copies hereof to the Consul at Aleppo, one to be sent by land the other by sea. The Hollanders arriving denied to pay us custom, referring themselves to the arbitrament of the King and Khan, through whose sudden departure, the matter is not yet decided.
Postscript.—9 Jan. 1623–4.—Send these lines to accompany a copy of theirs of the 15th October past, sent by express to Mr. Kirkham, Consul at Aleppo. Cogiah Nazer, Governor of the Armenians, dispeeding a "shatir" for Aleppo. Expect a letter from Thomas Barker, who departed for Gombroon the 7th of November. The Hollanders have two ships arrived at Ormuz, laden with southern commodities, and a good "cavidall" of money to invest in silk. They have met with a good time, through the stoppage of the ways, and "your worships' forbearance [of] supplies." "Now we have broke the ice they find good fishing." They report that at their ship's departure from Surat, we had three ships also ready to sail for Persia. Have not made any sales since their last. Their cloth, which Mullayimbeg yet refuses to take at former rates, they hold better to keep in their hands, seeing the King's siege of Bagdad "not only letteth the bringing of cloth, but hindereth likewise the export of silk," for not any Armenian will undertake carriage thereof in these times of trouble, so that Aleppo will find small quantities for some time. Signed by William Bell, John Purefey, John Haywarde. This letter, and the one referred to herein, were read at a Court "to consider the Persian Trade," on 24th November 1624 (which see) when it was resolved to pursue this trade. [Ten pages. O.C., Vol. X., No. 1120.]
Oct. 17–21. 331. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Mr. Misselden, "reputed a proper merchant, and a good civilian," and now going to reside in the Low Countries, to be conferred with, to be employed in the next treaty with the Dutch. Mr. Skynner also named, but he cannot be spared from his employment. Request of Misselden, on behalf of the widow of Philip Oakland, who fell overboard the Palsgrave and was drowned, to receive 10l. on account of his wages. Messrs. Westrow and Kirby to have the cotton wool at 10d. per lb. [Edward] Monnox, if he desire it, to have his freedom of this society, paying to the poor box. Debate concerning pepper underwritten for by Sir Henry Roe, for Sir Thomas Roe, his mother, and himself. Motion concerning [William] Biddulph's goods and calicoes. Petition of certain of the Palsgrave's men for one sixteenth part of the reprisall goods taken in the last Manilla voyage; ordered that Capt. Clevenger, Mr. Browne, and petitioners be at Court on Monday morning. Mr. Kirby intreated to speak to Sir Paul Banning to lend 2,000l. or 3,000l. "upon the credit of private men." Petition of Richard Wild, a merchant, sometime servant to Lawrence Greene, who had been employed at Malaga 11 years; speaks the Spanish tongue, and is skillful at account, to serve the Company five years in the Indies, and demands 100l. per annum; a committee informed the Court that he knew petitioner 15 years since, and "his vanities were keeping of hounds and gaming," that he may be now reclaimed, professing he never heard of any notable vice he had; Messrs. Venn and Bell to inquire of him against next Friday. Request of Mr. Edwards, the apothecary, a brother of the Company, for favour for his kinsman, William Kitchen, surgeon of the Lion, to remit the freight of his calicoes; but the Court remembered that much damage had been done in the Lion, bales ripped open and goods stolen, and would not alter what had been ordered. Wages of John Taylor to be paid to the Master and Wardens of the Watermen and his own master. Report of Mr. Deputy concerning [William] Methwold's business: (1.) That Pattison went out poor, but having got Millward's estate and the Company's into his hands, died rich, whereupon Methwold had undertaken the executorship: he could not well deny having paid the legacies with the Company's pepper, but affirmed that if he did, he put other in the storehouses instead thereof. (2.) That Methwold carried to the diamond mine 400 pagodes for himself and 200 for the Company, as he pretended, though he made no mention thereof till all was lost; to which he answered that he did not hold himself bound to give account of his proceedings to any of them, and yet had made it known to Mr. Cartwright, who is now dead; but it was held fit Methwold should bear the loss of those 200 pagodes. (3.) He confessed to private trade, yet not in so great quantities as Mr. Duke accuseth him for. (4.) And lastly, as to plotting with Ball to the prejudice of the Company, he not only justified the letter he had written to Ball, but declared that the respect of a friend is more than of a servant, and said of Ball that "the Company had discontented him," and Methwold pretended he intended no hurt to the Company; but by the most favourable construction "it was a pestilent letter against the Company." Being demanded whether he would submit himself or stand upon his justification, his answer was that he was not culpable for the pepper; for the pagodes he had been questioned before the President, and given satisfaction; for private trade, he had bought only so much cloth as made him 100 shirts; and for the letter, he desired them to make a favourable construction of it, wherein he intended no ill, and in a sort seemed willing to submit himself to the Court, yet did it not so freely as that the Court would accept thereof, and therefore for the present he departed the Court nothing further being concluded in this business.
Oct. 17.—Minutes of a General Court. Those absent to be fined 12d. per piece. Declaration of Mr. Deputy that they were called to consider the order for dividing calicoes, and also about bringing in payments at Christmas and Lady day; that the committee's found it necessary to bring in the Christmas payment, as well to support the charge of setting out this next fleet, which will cost 160,000l., as to pay the half capital payable then to the old stock. Here it was observed by one of the Generality that 18,000l. in debts were long since due to the Company, and Mr. Treasurer replied that of this great sum much was secured by transport of adventures. After debate it was ordered to have four auditors to examine the state of the accounts, the choice of men and salaries to be settled at a General Court this day three weeks. Then was debated an order of the last General Court for dividing calicoes upon stock to ship out, whether to confirm or resolve to deliver calicoes to sell in town: opinions and auguments on both sides; the resolution referred to another General Court.
Oct. 20.—Mr. Tichburne made known Sir John Walter's opinion about the order Mr. Denton had procured concerning his bills; reference to be made to Alderman Molson thereon. Mr. Hurte's accounts to be audited. Consideration of what is fit to be done at the next General Court concerning the order for division of calicoes and bringing in Christmas payment; the motion for auditor's propounded by Mr. Mynn, to be seriously debated on Wednesday morning; yet this to be plainly made known to the Generality, that without the Christmas payment this committee cannot tell how to order their business as it ought to be Mr. Treasurer signified that Sir Paul Banning was content to lend 2,000l. on Messrs. Bateman, Clitherowe, and Munne's bond. Mr. Treasurer directed to put a list of the committees' names in his pocket that those willing to lend may make choice of such committees as they like, the Court undertaking to save them harmless. Sir William Cokayne will lend 1,000l. The Court then took into consideration the work of the day, which was to confer with divers of the Palsgrave's company, about a sixteenth part for their last voyage to the Moluccas [sic ? Manillas]. As they had it in the former voyage, it was held fit to compose this business rather than expose the Company to such a clamour as might ensue, especially as Brockendon promised it on the half deck, and the Dutch had allowed their people in lieu of it two months' pay, and the captain and master affirmed that all the English commanders at Japan at the setting out of the second expedition to the Manillas were forced to engage themselves body and goods to the mariners for payment of this sixteenth part and that the Dutch had much more pillage than the English. The petitioners Bartholomew Ale, Thomas Cove, John Jay, William Corrant, and the rest are called into Court, and several propositions made to them which they reject, but in the end they submit to the favour of the Company and accept one month's pay in full of all demands. Certificates presented by Joseph Jackson on behalf of Augustine Spaldinge, subscribed by President Brockedon and others; but the Court conceived them altogether insufficient to clear him. Methwold called in and questioned; he desired to be made a notorious example if he had been a notorious offender in private trade, and being required to make his demands desired 400l. for wages and 370l. in the purser's book, and concluding it neither safe nor honest for him to contend with the Company, he wholly submitted himself to their favour, who, accepting his submission in good part, required him to attend for further answer on Friday next. [Sixteen pages. Court Bk., VI., pp. 184–194, 197–201.]
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332. Sec. Calvert to Sec. Conway. The artillery demanded by the Spanish Ambassadors is intended to be sent to Lisbon and from thence to the East Indies, to supply the store at Ormuz formerly spoiled by the English. [Extract from Domestic Corresp., Jac. I., Vol. CLIII., No. 79, Cal., p. 100.]
Oct. 21–24. 333. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Petitions for employment considered [see tables at end of the year 1623, pp. 219–225]. It is imputed to all pursers as a fault, that they take no knowledge of private trade. They are to be countenanced in their place, as in the King's ships, where they are next to the master. Robert Smith to be purser of the Jonas, and Daniel White of the Star. Allen Colly, who went purser to Russia, to be purser's mate in the James or Jonas. Robert Loftus, "said to keep accounts by way of debitor or creditor," to be considered of for a purser's mate or underfactor.
Oct. 22.—Sir Richard Smith delivered a letter from Lord Chief Justice Hobart, wherein he signifies that about three years since he was visited with sickness, and the Company accepted what he had then paid in, being 1,500l. of the 3,000l. underwritten, which he desires may now be confirmed, that he may the better order his affairs; the Court called to mind what then passed, viz., that if he recovered he would pay in the remainder orderly, but that if he died the Company would call for no more. The Court book was called for, but the order not being readily found, it was promised to return an answer to Lord Hobart's letter.
[N.B.—In the margin is written the date Aug. 22, 1620; but as there are no Court Minutes between April 1620 and July 1621, the Court Book containing the above order relating to Lord Chief Justice Hobart's adventure is missing.]
Sir William Cokayne is content to lend 1,000l. for six months on Messrs. Clitherowe and Styles' bond; the Court entreated them to lend their credits upon this occasion, or any other committee engaged to supply money for the present, and for their indemnity it was ordered they should have the Company's seal, and be disengaged with the first money that comes in. Consideration what was fit to represent to the General Court in the afternoon concerning the order of 29th August last, for dividing three and a half capitals of calicoes to sell in town and for bringing in the Christmas payments. A proposition for buying all the Company's silk withdrawn, one bale having disparaged the whole parcel. As to what was fit to be done concerning Mr. Misselden's employment; opinion that he being Deputy of the Merchant Adventurers, and Mr. Barlow a merchant residing there [in Holland], could not be easily tired out with delays and the dilatory proceedings with the Dutch, and therefore were fittest "to attend this treaty." Mr. Governor represented that Sir Randall Cranfield had given out very uncivil speeches of the Governor, Deputy, and committees, which reached higher than to them, as particular men, and trenched deep into the government, and that upon the Exchange he had "offered personal disgraceful words to Mr. Westrow." Some were of opinion to move it at a General Court, others to go higher, since these affronts disparage the government and are disorders taken notice of by the gentry of the Company. Mr. Parkhurst declared that he had heard "very wild words against the Governor, Deputy, and committees, uttered by Sir Randall, and if called thereto will accuse him ore tenus." The opinion was to leave these things to further consideration, but "if once the complaint be undertaken, that it be pursued effectually for precedent sake, to affright others from the like."
Oct. 22.—Minutes of a General Court. Mr. Deputy declared that the disorder of the last Court was the cause of this; and represented that disorder hurts not the Governor and committees, but it hurts the Company in general, and that the committees need not call them together upon this business of dividing calicoes or the like. Mr. Governor's opinion was that the order of the 29th August last concerning the division of calicoes to ship out was well grounded, and upon such reasons that no experienced merchant could contradict; there rested 47,555l. worth to be divided, which would produce half a capital, more or less; it was left to the Court to annihilate or establish their former order. "A Grave Citizen" delivered his opinion that the Act formerly made ought not to be repealed; first, "in point of justice, which, as Solomon saith, establisheth a crown; and if a crown, then all subordinate governments;" next that this Act was settled by a double Court, upon whom it would draw imputation of instability, and he doubted the linen drapers who had bought quantities of calicoes upon bills, would refuse to perform payment when there should be so many retailers. By the patent, power is given to the committees to order divisions, sales, and other business, and he advised not to draw this power from them, for "where my Lo. (Omnis) once rules, he quickly overthrows all." After further discussion, it was resolved that the former order should stand in force; and that a penalty of 20 per cent. should be laid on all such as directly or indirectly import their calicoes again; and, on the proposition of Mr. Garroway, one of the farmers, Sir Randall Cranfield and others were intreated to solicit the Lord Treasurer for a proclamation to prohibit the importation of calicoes. Mr. Deputy then made known that there is 92,000l. in arrear by adventurers, and that tickets sent out to the several adventurers had brought in above 1,000l. In November last, 33 of the Generality were nominated to join with the standing committees and consider the government of the Company, who have met once, and now desire to meet again; but because so great a number cannot easily be brought together, it is ordered that any 10 of them and 10 of the standing committee shall proceed with that business. Concerning the Persian trade, the committee has already settled it, till the Company have further advice from thence.
Oct. 24.—In reference to the services of Jeremy Sambrooke and Mr. Prusson, Mr. Tichburne, the Company's solicitor, made known that the Lord Keeper had made an order that when the Company bring in the bills Denton shall bring in the money, and Mr. Alderman Molson is to certify whether these bills or the money due by them were questioned at the time he made his umpirage; whereupon his Lordship will proceed to a conclusion without further charge or witnesses; the Court liked well this proceeding. Sir John Walter has taken a view of the state of the suit with Ball, "and procured an order for publication peremptory the first day of the next term in both causes, viz., in Star Chamber and Chancery;" meantime both parties to examine their witnesses: Mr. Hinchley to be sent for to town. Ordered that Capt. Weddall must either ship out his calicoes as the Company do, or have patience till Christmas. A son of Sir William Smyth declared that Sir William "left his estate very distracted in great men's hands, which could not yet be gotten in," and therefore on behalf of his five sons and two daughters moved that the 1,100l. paid in may stand for his whole adventure, they being unable to supply the rest. Mr. Bacon to certify Mr. Cooke, master of requests, that there is nothing due to Mrs. Rynd, her husband having taken up all in the Indies. Lord "Hubberte's" request concerning his adventure referred to another Court. Mr. Neville desired the freedom of the Company for his servant, Richard Abbott, but as he had served but three years, it not be granted. Allen Colly to be purser's mate of the Great James, Thomas Thornborough being purser. Mr. Friday made known that he is arrested for 200l. of the estate of Henry Edmonds, which the Company had paid two years since: the Court will maintain that payment, but will not engage to save Mr. Friday harmless, not knowing on what other pretence the suit was commenced. Consideration of the choice of masters: Capt. Clevenger and Messrs. Roe, Browne, Pynn, Evans, Phelps, Addison, Roberts, Pinder, and Sommerson commended for able, sufficient men, but the choice fell upon Capt. Clevenger for the Jonas, with 10l. per month. In order "to second their attempts upon the Portugals with strength of shipping," it was ordered that the three ships for Surat and the one for Jacatra should go together by way of Surat. Capt. Clevenger gratified with 100l. for bringing the Palsgrave into the Downs, and left to divide it with Mr. Browne. Demand of Henry Bate for disbursements for the Bear, but the Court insisted on their former answer that they owe him none. Pinchin, a brother of the Company, concerning his calicoes, which are now delivered to a linen draper in Cornwall; resolved to charge the broke of 20 per cent. on his account. Complaints against Mr. Hurt to be examined. Committees to be named to "sue out" the proclamation to prohibit the importation of calicoes. Petition of Robert Willoughby for the burial charge of his servant, Francis Willson, "who was slain with a fall front the Great James"; to be paid. [Twelve pages and a half. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 201–213.]
Oct. 27. 334. Sir William Hallidaie, Governor, and Morris Abbott, Deputy Governor of the East India Company to Carleton. By late letters out of the Indies they have received advice of new injuries offered by the Dutch, wherewith they have forborn to acquaint the King or the State, hoping to receive friendly satisfaction by a private treaty, to which end they have sent two commissioners, Edward Misselden and Robert Barlow, to treat with the Netherlanders, and have singled out two particulars only to be handled; and as there may be occasion to touch upon some matter of State, they have directed them to have recourse to his Lordship. [Holland Corresp.]
Oct. 31. 335. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Mr. Tichburne informed the Court that Mr. Sheriff Mowlson had told Denton that he, would never do good in his suit with the Company, and therefore wished him to cease; also that Hinchley, a material witness against Ball, desires to be excused coming up, and that the Company would procure a commission to examine him in the country: the Court answered that they had no other purpose towards him than to make use of his testimony, "and that if he used the help of the Ipswich waggon to take his passage therein, his charges shall be borne." Mr. Cappur to go to-morrow to testify on oath between the Company and Mr. Decrow. The secretary to the Commissioners of the Navy "delivered to the Company," that the commissioners in Lady Dale's business have examined all her witnesses and are content to examine the Company's, which the Court took thankfully. Offer of [Rich.] Steele, sometime servant to the Company, to do great services in Surat or Persia, and thinks it possible to gain the whole trade of Persia from the Portugals; was told they had no occasion at present to use his services, but if he would set down anything in writing for the bettering of the Persian trade, they would gladly hearken to it. Richard Langford recommended for purser by Sir Robert Napier; entertained second purser's mate in the Great James. Concerning Mr. Soane's purchase of the Company's interest in Buttall wharf. Offer of Mr. Croppenbergh and son to become security for the monies to be paid by the Dutch; but as the sums are great, first, for bringing home the pepper, and then 26,000 ryals a debt; after acquainting the Dutch Company he shall know further the mind of the Company. Provision to be made of "Bulgary hides," "being a commodity they cannot well want." Demand of a brother of Robarte Jeoffries, who has purposely come out of Somersetshire for that business, for his brother's wages; to have 20l. or 30l. on account. Suit of Mr. Weddall to have his pepper, calicoes, &c.; the Court let him know that in the ship he came home in, divers pieces of calicoes had been stolen, "and in a derision old mariners' clothes thrust in to fill up the pack;" he excused himself of having failed in any part of his duty, and the Court were contented he should take out his goods, putting in 200l. bond not to sell in town. He propounded Mr. Johnson to go master in the third ship, and spake much of his suffi ciency. Mr. Deputy acquainted the Court he had received summons to attend the Lords at the Council table concerning the pirate business and the Company's payments; to answer that the Company are not behind hand in their payments, and to pray that an exact account may be taken of that business. Answer to be returned to Lord Hobart that the sinking or not sinking of adventures is referred to a mixed committee of this Court and the Generality. William Bryan, on the recommendation of Sir Thomas Bendish, entertained for a soldier in their intended new fort, at 18s. per month. Methwold to be abated 150l. of his wages in repect of the 200 pagodes. Letter read from Mr. Swann, master of the Charles, dated from the Downs, Oct. 8. Robert Barsten, recommended by Lady Hobart, to go in the next shipping as steward's mate. Monday appointed to consider of delinquents in their payments; and Tuesday to read as many petitions as they can, to the end the house may be delivered of the multitude of suitors that resort hither daily. Capt. Biddulph's goods brought up, but a great parcel of indigo the Court will in no wise give way that he should have the selling of; the rest he may have. [Four pages and a half. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 213– 217.]
336. Randoll Jesson [Master of the Coaster] and Henry Cheetam, purser, to (the East India Company). Hope the letters of Capt. Bickley and Mr. Browne have come to their hands. Their passage from the Cape was from the last of July to the 2nd of October. Found here the Exchange, Hart, Roebuck, Diamond, Unity, and Rose, and our late President [Fursland] very sick, who deceased the 16th of October. Is at this present bound for Jambi, although his agreement was not to go to that place. Has caused a crane to be made and set in the ship, for the more easy heaving of the ship up the river of Jambi, for two or three in the crane shall heave more than 20 men at the capstan. After closing his letters from the Cape, thought good to take the Portugal captain and seven of his men with him, first for clearing himself in what was taken and of the beginning of the fight, secondly that the ship should not go for India, and lastly for redeeming Forbrusher and his wife. Have delivered to the President 400 ryals of eight, all that he found in the prize, but hoped the President and Council would have bestowed it upon them, considering the smallness of their pillage and their great hazard in gaining it. Endorsed, "Randall Jesson, master of the Coaster, from Batavia, 1623 without date, recd by the Exchange." [One page and a quarter. O.C., Vol. X., No. 1121.]
337. Same to same. Have sent an abstract of the men deceased in their ships, and copies of their accounts and inventories, and delivered to the President an abstract of their expences from the Cape to Jacatra, and the stores appointed for the factory at Batavia. Lamprier "much dishonest" in putting down more nails, &c. than were sent. Thomas Martin, sailor, drowned at the Cape, 29 July, and Hugh Clarke, their surgeon, who departed suddenly 24 Oct., died without wills. Endorsed as the preceding. [One page. O.C., Vol. X., No. 1122.]