East Indies: November 1623

Pages 173-185

Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 4, 1622-1624. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1878.

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Nov 1623

Nov. 3.
338. Richard Hasellwood to Robert Johnson, chief merchant at Jambi. Thanks him for the sale of his small parcel of steel. Has paid Stevinton 20 ryals of eight. The Exchange is taking in the Moon's pepper, and is to be dispeeded away with the Elizabeth. President Fursland has departed this life, and Brockedon by succession taken his place. [Half a page. O.C., Vol. X., No. 1123.]
Nov. 3–11. 339. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Consideration how to reward the merit of [John] Phelps, howsoever William Taylor seemed to be a competitor with Phelps for his good service in the pinnace Richard, wherewith the Portugal ship was taken, also for his successful shooting at the Castle of Chisme [Kishme] when he dismounted a piece of ordnance, and for being the first that entered the Isabella of Goa; Phelps is rewarded with 25l. and conceived fit to go master in one of the pinnaces now building. Capt. Blythe of opinion it were better to buy Malabar frigates than to build pinnaces here. Mr. Wylde, propounded for a factor, attended to know the Company's pleasure; he was well reported of, "only he had played once for a great sum," and kept greyhounds, and it was thought meet to refer the answer till Mr. Strowd might be present. Occasion was taken to blame the "unsecrecy" of the Court, because things spoken in Court are delivered upon the Exchange. The gentleman that solicited Capt. Bonner's business presses for a gratification, but the former resolution not to give any was confirmed. Mr. Deputy declared to Mr. Methwold the resolution of the Court to abate out of his entertainment 150l., but he referred himself to a second consideration after he should have presented a declaration of what had passed, the Court being of opinion to examine him on new interrogatories concerning Ball. Mr. Steele read certain observations of his own concerning the Persian trade and the waterworks projected by himself; Mr. Deputy observed that he attributed too much to himself concerning business at the Magore's Court, and for the waterworks it had been debated in Sir Thomas Roe's presence; the matter was referred. Mr. Browne willing to go in the third ship, demands 12l. per month, but the Court would enlarge themselves no further than to 8l., which he, not accepting, was left to consider till next Court. Examination of complaints against Mr. Hurte touching moneys received by him from Mathias Waterhouse, Elizabeth Hodges, Robert and Elizabeth Peadle, Michael Ungle, and others; the business left for further consideration. Mr. Prusson's business to be heard this day sevennight.
Nov. 3.—Minutes of a meeting of the "committees for broakes." Mr. Crispe propounded that the same course may be held as in the plantations in Ireland, which is to say, interest on so much of the sum underwritten as is not brought in, and the party that so fails to stay his "divisions." The delinquents in not paying in their adventures were then distinguished into three sorts, viz., 1, insolvents, and towards such it was conceived cruelty to use extremity; 2, widows and orphans, who have no ability to supply what is underwritten; 3, those that are able, yet purposely lye in wait and will not bring in, and to such no favour is to be shown. Discussion thereon; some of opinion to deal justly towards all without respect of persons, others to divide into two sorts those that are decayed and those that are able, and to impose upon these last 16, 18, or 24 per cent.; no precedent of any delinquent yet made, whether executors are to supply adventures of testators. Petition of Messrs. Mosely and Isaac Sutton read, pretending losses and casualties had disabled them to supply their adventures; referred to further consideration. Request of Thomas Dent for mitigation of brokes, he promised to make good all payments before Christmas; to have as much favour as any other: he also requested to be one of the Company's auditors, but was answered that no delinquents would be put in election. Mr. Banckes put the Court in mind that being executor to Mr. Dalby, he had been a suitor on June 16, 1620, that whereas Mr. Dalby had underwritten 2,000l., whereof 750l. paid in, no more be expected; but was answered that the money paid in must make good the damage of the payments not brought in. Resolved to report to the General Court that it were fit to send out tickets and limit the time by the end of November, and in case of default those able should have the broke charged to their account without favour, and others to be considered of.
Nov. 4.—Instructions to be drawn and sent over to Misselden and Barlow, the Company's commissioners with the Dutch. Peter Bell entertained to go purser in the Eagle; George Smith, purser's mate in the Star; and John Boulter and John [? George] Lilly, stewards in this fleet. Sir Thomas Smythe acquainted the Court that Lady Dale petitioned the King, that the Company doth her wrong by detaining monies and goods of her late husband Sir Thomas Dale, and his Majesty had referred it to the Commissioners of the Navy. She now presses for publication of the depositions of her witnesses "a company of idle fellows," and Sir Thomas Smythe offered on behalf of the commissioners to examine witnesses, also on the part of the Company. The Court did not a little wonder at the unreasonable pretences of Lady Dale, and were sorry they had done her any courtesy in letting her have the silk that came home on her husband's account, &c. It was said she reports her husband took 20,000l. out of a Chinese junk, but if it were taken it belonged to those that employed him; also that he carried an estate in money, but the contrary appeared at his going, for he was so ill provided of money, he was forced to borrow 100l. of the Company; and if he had not accepted when he did, the Company resolved not to have employed him at all, their ships being ready to depart without him; nay more, it was affirmed they were so little desirous he should go that they offered him 100l. to stay, but an "honble. lord his friend pressed him to go." The Court willed Mr. Cappur to provide that interrogatories be drawn by counsel in the Company's behalf, and promised within a week to have their witnesses examined. The old business concerning the estate of Greete renewed, who had given by will 300l. for erecting a school, Sir Thomas Smythe and Sir William Russell being executors; the former earnestly desires a settling of the question between Greete and the Company, because it gives occasion of speech to the world, some unjustly surmising that he swallows up the estate, whereas he never reaped any benefit thereby. Sir Thos. Smythe added that Westby who died in the Indies has also made him his executor, and Fursland writes that Westby left 1,500 ryals, which are put to the Company's account; these things left to further consideration. Richard Chamberlain entertained to go steward in the Jonas; Robert Leake, much commended by Capt. Blythe, to go steward's mate. Many petitions read and answered. Request of Andrew Evans, who was mate in the Ann when she was in fight with a carrack, to be entertained in the Company's service; he was offered to take charge of one of the pinnaces appointed for Surat.
Nov. 7.—Committee appointed to attend the Lords of the Council in obedience to their command concerning, it is supposed, the pirate money. The business for the General Court in the afternoon taken into consideration: Firstly, concerning Auditor-General; secondly, the necessity of a Christmas payment; thirdly, to procure a proclamation from the King to inhibit the importation of calicoes. For the first, several auditors were nominated, but in the end, resolved to be left wholly to the Court. For the second, the motion must be resolute and admit of no dispute. For the third, "some thought that the Company, by procuring such a proclamation shall fall within the compass of monopoly"; but in the end it was left to be opened and ordered at the General Court. Concerning the price of indigo, which now lies on the Company's hands as a dead commodity, but would be taken off, if the price were fallen to some reasonable rate; 4s. per pound is offered, which makes very near five for one, while calicoes make but two for one, but the Company ask 5s.; it may be brought from Aleppo at 5s., and the ship London Merchant is shortly expected with rich indigo. Committees named to fall the price according to the quality bought. Motion of Jonas Viney, to have 1,000l., the remainder of Capt. Jourdain's estate, having already received 200l.; the former order of payment to be looked up. Concerning the Royal James reported not fit to put to sea. Consideration of "the crimes objected to Mr. Hurte;" his answers no ways satisfactory; to come up on Wednesday next, with all who could give any light in the business. Richard Wylde entertained factor at 100l. per annum for five years. Capt. Weddall, "doth disable Phelps for being master" of one of the pinnaces; he is left to further consideration. Letter (read) from Robt. Bourne on behalf of Mrs. Baffin for the money due to her deceased husband; the Court are ready to pay what is due for wages, "but to pay 800l. which cannot but begotten by private trade, the Company will not do it;" notwithstanding, Mrs. Baffin shall expect their further answer.
Nov. 7.—Minutes of a General Court. Discussion concerning the broke of 20 per cent. for calicoes not exported; ordered that said broke should be imposed as well on those that ship out their calicoes and bring them in again, as on those that pretend to ship out and do it not, but sell at home. Mr. Deputy declared that since the last General Court, 10,000l. more had been underwrit for calicoes to tra nsp ort, and he hoped good quantities more would be. Six of the Generality added to the committees for brokes, so that every meeting may be full. Tickets to be sent to adventurers in arrear that if they bring in all their payments by the 10th Dec. they may expect a mitigation of brokes, otherwise the whole broke of 24 per cent. to be charged to their accounts. The Christmas payment to be paid in, the necessity of the Company's affairs requiring it, but, to give reputation to this stock, and content to the adventurers, no new subscription to be made until Christmas come four years. Concerning the election of four auditors.
Nov. 10.—Court Minutes. Concerning the defects of the Great James; she is found every way sufficient to perform her voyage. Petition of Peadle concerning the estate of John Frowde, the Prerogative Court having made void the administration of Edward Parsons. Upon this occasion was renewed an old motion of great importance, that the Company should cause administrations to stay six or 12 months before they be paid, but nothing was ordered therein. Report of Walter Mountford, that the Charles set sail on Friday last, the 7th inst., and delivered in the "old boxes of succession," &c. Answer of Methwold to the objections against him; he freely submits to the censure of the Court, and desired a moderation of his former sentence of 150l., but it was ordered to stand good; he then moved to have allowance after 9 per cent. for his wages, as was promised, to have his freedom, and that the money coming to him may remain in the Company's hands at interest at 9 per cent. from Michaelmas last. Certain interrogatories presented by the Company's solicitor concerning Lady Dale's business. Edward Higham's reasons for default in his adventure to be represented to the double committee. Objections against Prusson to be heard the next day. Edward Tynes to keep account of canvas, &c., Jeremy Sambrook not having leisure. Concerning Mrs. Harrison's business. Capt. Fitzherbert's widow having come to London purposely to clear her account with the Company, the account to be audited, "that she may return before winter come too far on." Petition of Thomas Beale, a mathematician, to be entertained as a marine man in place of a master's mate, but was referred to be entertained as "a good fellow" at 25s. or 26s. per month if he please.
Nov. 11.—Complaint against George Lilly, a steward, for being "a wasteful man;" if found true, he is to be dismissed. Mr. Cocks acquaints the Court that he is served with "a writ ad testificandum" in Mrs. Wickham's suit, which business, as also the interrogatories for Lady Dale, are ordered to be carefully followed. The instructions, &c. useful in the next treaty, to be made ready to be sent to Messrs. Misselden and Barlow. Complaints against Mr. Pruson, preferred by Mr. Munnes, in reference to the quality of masts, sails, and ropes supplied by him to the Company and his charges for same, &c.; to his refusing English and employing Dutch workmen, which was conceived dangerous, and to other matters. He also complained of words spoken by Pruson to one who told the Governor "that Israel could not thrive until Achan and all his should be cast out and stoned to death," the meaning of which words Munnes afterwards understood to refer to some notable bribery or corruption in the Company. The Court conceived that if the particulars were true they were foul matters against Mr. Pruson. There grew a question on some particulars, and Pruson being called in replied to the objections laid to his charge, excusing and defending himself, saying that every one must live by his trade, that he made his sails according to the measure received from the ship's carpenter, &c. "Here Mr. Pruson could contain himself no longer, but burst out in a passion, * * * contesting with Mr. Munnes in such uncivil manner, and threatening to bring him to his answer in another place, that the Court took knowledge of his insolent carriage, tending so much to the disparagement of the government, that it was not to be endured in so grave an assembly; whereupon Pruson told the Court he desired to be heard by indifferent judges." The day being much spent the business was left to be resolved at another Court. [Twenty-eight pages. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 218–248.]
Nov 11.
The Hague.
340. Carleton to the Governor or Deputy Governor of the East India Company. If it had lain in his power to have done their Company any service upon their former letters, he would not have deferred writing until now, that he is invited by their courtesy both to himself and his wife, for which they both give hearty thanks; but such has been the distraction in this Company, by disputes between Bewinthebbers and participants, that they know not how to begin any good correspondence with us by a necessary reglement for the future. Only they declare to Carleton their resolution not to swerve from the treaty, but to maintain it punctually, of which the losses they as well as we have sustained make them the more careful, especially as the commissions to Misselden and Barlow show that we seek rather to compose and settle matters in friendly manner, of which Carleton has already made the chief of them sensible. Will not fail to give them the assistance they require. [Holland Corresp.]
Nov. 12. 341. Articles of Agreement between the English and the Guzerats upon the seizure of their junks, for the better conservation of amity, peace, and free commerce with the English, who have "justly complained of sundry abuses and hindrances." It is agreed and granted to Thos. Rastell, President, with his Council, that—1. They shall be permitted free trade, as well in the ports of Surat, Cambaya, Gogo, Sinda, and Bengala, as in all other places within the dominions of Jehangeer Paudshah, without prohibition of any commodity or limitation of places, times, or quantities. 2. There shall no governors, customers, or other officers engross to themselves, in the name of the King or Prince, such commodities as the English bring, more than shall be "properly needful for the use of the King or Prince, their circares." 3. The house, &c. of Cojah Hassen Allee in Surat, shall be let them to lease. 4. They shall have free license for the buying, building, and careening in Surat, Baroach, or Gundivee, of four frigates a year. 5. Neither carts nor boats shall be denied for transport of their goods, or any water forbidden upon pretence of duties to the Governors of Urpall, who shall cease to exact the same. 6. The actions of any other Christian nation shall be no way imputed to the English for them to be liable. 7. The rahdars or duties at Unckliseares, Daita, Bayara, Kerka, or any other places shall for ever hereafter be remitted. 8. There shall no violence be practised against their people, and if in defence of themselves any manslaughter should happen to any subject of this kingdom they shall be free of any punishment. 9. Not any of their "caphilaes" shall be hindered upon any pretence whatsoever; but differences that might cause the same shall be referred for trial and accommodation betwixt their chief and the Governor in Surat. 10. They shall be permitted to be instant possessors of their own goods and rarities at their present landing, which no governor or other officer shall detain in custom house, or enforce from them at their own rates, and suffer them (the English) to house into their own warehouses, where, and nowhere else, shall be the place of recourse for their markets. 11. They shall freely exercise their own religion, wear arms for their defence, and exercise justice on their own people, though the offence be done to a Musselman. 12. Their brokers shall have free liberty of speech before any governor, and shall not be abused, or daily fined, imprisoned, or detained by every inferior officer upon trivial occasions. 13. The goods, ryals, and other treasure jewels of the English shall for ever hereafter be free of the accustomed duties usually paid in Surat, with condition that they shall pay a constant rent of 40,000 ms. per annum to the King's circare. 14. In case of mortality to any Englishman, his estate to remain to the rest of his nation, and in case of no English left living, the governor of the place shall reserve the same to the use of such English as shall come to challenge it. 15. The past or present stoppage of the King, Prince, or his subjects' junks shall not be imputed to the English as an offence, seeing that want of justice has justly enforced them to extremities; wherefore they shall not be liable to the surrender of any goods or treasure taken out of said junks, nor shall any of the English nation be hereafter called in question for the same, "with an absolute remittance of all things never hereafter to be questioned." [Three pages. O.C., Vol. X., No. 1179.]
Nov. 12–21. 342. Court Minutes of the East India Company. John Phelps is entertained master of the best of the pinnaces now building, at 5l. per month, and to confer with Mr. Stephens how she shall be built. Demand of Jackson concerning Augustine Spaldinge's estate, or allowance for it for the time the Company holds it. The Court answered it is not their fault he is not already come home; they wrote by the Trial, but the ship miscarrying, the letter also perished; but make no question he will come home in the next ships; and as they expect himself so shortly, they hold it not reasonable that "use money" should be demanded. Petition of Jonas Viney for 1,000l., the remains of the monies due to Capt. Jourdain, deceased, which petitioner claimed under his said uncle's will, to whom Mrs. Viney, the mother of said Jonas, was sole executrix, but she dying made her said son her executor. The Court was not satisfied that he, being within age, could give a discharge for the money, albeit divers civilians were of that mind, but were contented he shall receive 400l., provided he shall hold himself quiet, without being further troublesome to the Company until he shall be arrived to the full age of 21 years, which he thankfully accepted. Petition of the wife of one John Wood for monies pretended to be due to her husband, "but in an immodest manner threatens the Company that if she failed of her pretences, she would follow them in the streets until they were wearied with her importunities." The Court was much distasted with her impudence, and consulted where to complain for redress, but was contented that if Wood will receive his wages for the time he served in the James, he may. Petition of Wm. Whaley for gratification for the loss of his leg in the Company's service; he was told the Company held themselves no way bound to recompense his "mayme," for they give wages, and are bound to no more; notwithstanding, they were content to bestow upon him 10l. as a free gift. Messrs. Bell, Venn, and Abdy attended the Lords at Whitehall, concerning certain mariners whose wives complained they could not have right from the Company for their husbands' goods taken by the Hollanders. Suit on behalf of Mrs. Fitzherbert for monies due to her husband; when the President's accounts shall come the Company will do her right; in the meantime she may receive 100l. on account. Arnold Browne entertained to go master in the Star at 9l. per month; Mr. Johnson, of the Eagle, at 7l.; and Mr. Pynn, of the lesser pinnace, at 4l. 10s. Concerning the charges against Hurte; he denied all, and when asked a second and third time, still stood upon his innocency; but at length confessed his fault and submitted himself to the favour and grace of the Court; some were of opinion that he might be so warned as to become a good servant to the Company; others wished to remove him; and after much arguing, he was warned to attend on Friday next.
Nov. 14.—Motion of Harlow for a gratification to poor ministers, which had been done in former years, though last Christmas omitted; the Court made answer that their former charity had drawn such multitudes of ministers from all parts as the Company hath been oppressed with suitors; and after some debate, that they would not set down anything positively until they had acquainted Mr. Governor therewith, and understood his mind. Sir Wm. Garroway thinks himself hardly dealt withal in that they demand 130l. for interest, whereas he, as a farmer of the customs, hath forborne greater sums from the Company, and for longer time. Demand of the Lord Treasurer in respect of the overplus of the compound "money for spices spent in the land;" he is desirous to clear that account, because from henceforth the Duke of Richmond is to receive it, by a late grant from his Majesty; ordered that the account be searched. About Mr. Pruson's business; the Company nothing satisfied with his service nor with his skill; he had carried himself with much contempt to some of the committee and scandal to others, had not answered well at the former Court, and shall not be employed again; notwithstanding, if he could set down anything in writing for the Company's good, he should be heard. Mr. Munnes intreated to look into the accounts of the purser of the London, concerning the goods taken at Ormuz; and Messrs. Bownest and Lawrence to audit Mr. Bickford's account. Report of Mr. Treasurer Stone, that he will not be able to pay out the dividend and other payments now due, and can hardly see how the disbursements of all kinds will be provided for; after consideration, it was thought fit to get out of debt by putting off some commodities rather than to seek monies at interest, but nothing was at present resolved. Petition of Robert Tellowe to remit the fine imposed on him by the President, in the Indies, of four months' pay, for fighting with an Englishman, but the Court left the fine still upon him. Complaint of "the porters of the tackling house" that their labours were undervalued; to be examined. The Court acquainted that Sheriff Mowlson is resolved to report in the business between the Company and Adam Denton. Mr. Tichburne to receive 5l. on account of his bill.
Nov. 17.—Mr. Treasurer Stone acquaints the Court that a subpoena was served upon him out of Chancery to answer a bill preferred against him at the suit of the Earl of Suffolk; Mr. Cappur to answer thereto for avoiding contempt.
Nov. 19.—Project presented by Mr. Beale, whereby ships may be preserved from the worm and sudden firing. The inventor made some demonstration to the Court how the material laid upon board it would keep it from firing, with divers other virtues, and for 50s. extraordinary per 100 tons he will trim all their ships with it; committee appointed to consult with Capt. Clevenger and some masters and gunners and report their opinions. In reference to allowance for Capt. Weddall's pepper, the Court understood the ryal to be five mamoodees. The Court of opinion that they are not bound to answer the Earl of Suffolk's bill, except there appear matter directly against them. Allowance to Mr. Punnyett "for carrying about the Charles," &c., and to Michael Nicholls for taking up a cable. Committee appointed to confer with Capt. Weddall about the value of his pepper. Debate how to provide moneys for the setting out of the ships now bound forth. The fleet of four ships and two pinnances will stand the Company in 14,000l. at least, and it will be fit to send to both factories 150,000 ryals besides what shall be bestowed in cloth. Discussion whether they should follow or not the Persian trade and send fewer ships, to which was answered that the danger will be the same, besides it may be the Governor will not altogether give over Ormuz; moreover, that the trade of the Red Sea ought not to be neglected; whether Surat commodities will serve for Ormuz; the benefit which Ormuz promiseth is not to be neglected. All good courses to be taken to bring in money; committee appointed to consider of it and advise with the treasurer. The maces which were set at 8s. 6d. to be now sold for 8s., and the middle maces that were at 5s. 6d. for 5s. Mr. Barlow writes from Amsterdam that a customer there will buy half the Company's silk, and wishes it sent over. The Court will not agree to send their silk thither; if the Netherlands have a mind to buy, they must send their deputies hither. The appointment of auditors and the General Court put off in respect of the want of health both in Mr. Governor and Mr. Deputy. Request of Mr. Lamman that Edward Lynes may assist Jeremy Sambrook with the accounts until it shall please God to give him health.
Nov. 21.—Concerning the gumlac sent home on the account of Augustine Spaldinge. The Court willing to abate the price of indigo so as they may sell 100 barrels in a parcel. Composition accepted by Mr. Weddall for his pepper. About Beversham's goods landed out of the Lion, and a large carpet, quilts, and other things set by for the Lord Treasurer at first cost, and a carpet for Mrs. Hallidaie for her own use. Claim by the friends of [William] Baffin, deceased in the Company's service, of an estate of 835l., whereof 500l. in money; the Court could not conceive how Baffin could raise such estate with honest dealing; it was conceived by some he might have gotten much of his estate at Ormuz, to which was answered that Baffin died before Ormuz was taken, and that he carried 1,000 marks with him; the Court was contented to come to end with him, and therefore declared that if those that prosecute for the estate will refer to the Company, they will do them right. Report of auditors on Walter Mountford's accounts, which they find so intricate and out of order "that it will ask a long time to audit them;" all his disbursements not vouched, and he is to account for 1,500l.; ordered that until this be done no more money for salary or other employments is to be paid to him. George Ball, according to an order on an old petition to the Lord Keeper, to be allowed to make copies of certain papers, provided Messrs. Waytes and Tichburne be present. The Company advised to examine Ball in the business between them and Lady Dale. Concerning [Adam] Denton's debt to the Company. Some exception against their beer being served by Dutchmen, but there is small choice of English brewers, only Messrs. Morgan and Duppa being able to serve them; agreed that Duppa should do so. Great want of Spanish iron hoops; the difference great both in the weight and price, the Spanish being 22s. per cwt. and English 27s., which weighs much more. Patrick Niccolls, Master of Arts, of Broadgates Hall, in Oxenford, offered his service to go preacher in the fleet for Surat; Mr. Cappur to write to his brother in Oxenford to inquire of him. The widow of [William] Baffin, accompanied by Mr. Bourne, made demand of her husband's estate, who deceased in the Indies in the Company's service; the Court told them that if Baffin's estate were questioned it might prove dangerous to the widow, especially if it be true, which she pretends, that he carried 600l. out in money, a thing utterly unlawful; if he carried no estate with him then is it possible that any great matter can be coming to him, and therefore wished an end might be made by some to be indifferently chosen on both sides. Mr. Bourne desired time to consider it. [Nineteen pages. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 248–267.]
Nov. 21.
343. Advices from the Hague. At Goeree a ship from the East Indies has again arrived, and another is on the way. Four more great ships are equipped to start from the Indies by the first, with 80 young girls, who in time will make honest marriages in the Indies. [French. Extract from Holland Corresp.]
Nov. 23. 344. Minutes of a meeting of committees at Blackwall in reference to smiths', coopers', and other work done there. [One page. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 267–268.]
Nov. 24. 345. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Committee appointed to which petitions of wives for their husbands' pay and for servants' wages are to be wholly referred. George Page, who had petitioned for employment as a factor, presented copy of a translation out of Dutch into English; to attend at next Court. Earnest request of Mr. Miller in reference to Capt. Fitzherbert's estate in behalf of his widow; after discussion, the Court was pleased that Mrs. Fitzherbert should receive 150l. on account. Mr. Ellam to make a survey of factors abroad against the next Court. Question between Mr. Browne, master of the Star, and Daniel White purser; both to attend the Court at their next sitting. William Fall, formerly steward of the Jonas, appointed steward of the Star instead of John (or George) Lilly, dismissed "because he would sometimes be overdone in drink." Robert Leake appointed steward's mate in the Great James. Concerning a request of Messrs. Lee, Langham, and Sherrington to take out their six half capitals, four in cloves and two in calicoes. William Jones, formerly set down for a steward's mate, dismissed. Thomas Leeson refuses to go as steward's mate. Robert Loftus, a very honest young man, to be purser's mate of the Eagle and underfactor in the Indies. Mr. Parkhurst, one of the committte for buying those commodities, to view Mr. Fishburne's satins; crimsons and greens the colours to be bought. Consideration of the number of ryals to be sent; 150,000 ryals, with 50,000 ryals in goods "a fit cargazone, as well to buy the Mallabar's pepper (whereof it is supposed good store may to be had, because the Portugals have been kept in two years together) as also to manage the Red Sea and Persian trade, together with the trade of Ormuz and the Persian Gulf;" ordered to have a Court purposely for settling these businesses on Wednesday next, meantime Jeremy Sambrooke, by direction of Mr. Munnes, to make a computation of the Company's stock at Surat and Persia. [Four pages. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 268–272.]
Nov. 25. 346. Minutes of a meeting of a mixed company of the committees and some of the generality. Three businesses to be handled at this Court, viz., concerning delinquents, the cloves, and the choice of auditors. All delinquents not in like case, some able to pay and some not. The list of insolvents examined, and 60,000l. found in such hands who for very poverty cannot pay, and no promise of mitigation can do good upon them, but it may do hurt where the men are good. Advised that those that are good men should be called upon to bring in their arrears and brokes without mitigation, and the Company may deal kindly with them afterwards and the Court moved to suffer the insolvent to take out his stock already paid in, to lay a fine upon arrears, and take legal course against those that are able to pay; discussion thereon. In the end it was thought fit not to end this business at present, but every man to arm himself with the best reasons he can, that it may be ended at the next meeting on Tuesday next. The business of the cloves put off till after Christmas. Seventeen men put in nomination for auditors general, of whom were chosen by erection of hands, Roger Gifford, Thomas Colthurst, Ralph Handson, — Cranmer, Thomas Eyans, and Richard Swift. [Two pages and a half. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 272–274.]
Nov. 26. 347. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Petition of Thomas Latham, executor to Mrs. Mary Fettiplace, deceased, that whereas he is to dispose of divers legacies given by her and hath only her adventure of 800l. which he cannot sell except at great loss, and shall be forced to continue it in his own name, that he may be made free of the Company; which is granted on his paying 5l. to the poor box on his own life only. Advice from Marseilles of 80 chests of coral bought for the Company's use, which there is good likelihood may be here time enough to be sent by the next ships for Surat. Account of Edw. Guy, purser of the London, presented to the Court, wherein is set down the goods taken at Ormuz, but neither money, jewels, nor plate, the same being delivered (as he said) to President Rastell and Giles James; the Court conceived that the Company is much wronged by the underrating of the goods sold, and that they have not received a due account of the plate, money, and jewels taken, neither could a just one sixth be paid to their men, when there was no just account of the whole; the purser therefore blamed for not giving a better account, and enjoined to prepare a better on Friday next. Consideration of the proportion of ryals to be sent to Surat and how to be provided. 200,000 ryals to be sent in the next fleet for Surat, and as the "cash is very 'lene,'" and a parcel of ryals due from the Hollanders is but a weak supply for such a sum, four or five of the committees are entreated to supply the necessary occasions of the Company, by privately taking up some 4,000l. or 5,000l., which was conceived to stand best with the reputation of the Company. Offer of Turkey merchants to take a good quantity of indigo, if they may have it at a reasonable price; not to have less than 100 barrels at 3s. 9d. per lb., instead of 4s., to ship to the Straits.
Consideration of [Richard] Steele's propositions; he propounded the freighting of goods and passengers from Synda to Ormuz, which would produce 20,000l. benefit per ann. viz. at 14 per cent. freight which the Portugals have employed these 100 years, but of late by reason of their cruelty the merchants have carried their merchandise through Candahar, which trade might easily be had again if the English would undertake the business; here it was observed that the Portugals have seated themselves upon the mouth of the river Synda, and fortified on both sides and must first be disabled there to make good the project. He then made offer of his service and pretended another benefit to the Company in reference to the buying of indigo within five days' journey of Lahore. His next proposition was for the waterworks formerly projected, which he conceived would yield 10,000l. per ann., and be infinitely pleasing both to the Great Mogul and to his subjects "the Grand Mayor doting upon this project;" but this having been at large debated upon the arrival of Sir Thos. Roe, who no way approved of it, the Company had no purpose to entertain this project. The third proposition was that they should not trade with the King of Persia, but endeavour to be at liberty to trade anywhere; to which was answered that this had been taken into consideration and our King's letters were sent purposely to procure that privilege. Steele was of opinion that Persia yearly yields 30,000 bales of silk, though others said not above 5,000, and that on the coast of Malabar 500 tons of pepper are to be had yearly, being but five or six days' sail from Jask. Steele being withdrawn, the Court remembered that his propositions were old, and that Sir Thos. Roe was and is of opinion that it is dangerous to employ him, that his defence formerly was very weak and therefore, because the Company expect messengers from Persia, resolved to answer that they have no employment for him; and concerning his propositions, when they hear what these messengers will say, they will consider further on him. Discussion on Steele's propositions after his departure. Petition of William Kitchin, late surgeon of the Lion, for abatement of freight, having carried himself very honestly abroad and civilly at home; ordered that he pay 2s. freight per book for 150 pieces of calico instead of 3s. [Eight pages. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 278–286.]
Nov. 28. 348. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Gratuities given to the poor of Stepney, together with the old beef and biscuit and "other vayles of beef" as have been usually distributed to the poor there. Bills to be set up in the usual places declaring that a Court of Sales shall be held on Wednesday afternoon next. The purser of the London given till Monday next to bring in his accounts. Mr. Hurte's business. Mr Ellam's collection of the factors in the Indies, being in number "Fowerskoare," shown to the Court; some thought the number over great, but others remembered that they have had heretofore a much greater; further consideration for supply of factors referred until the Company hear from Persia, which that they had not done in so long time, they much wondered at, "the passage being so ordinary as it is." Request of Mrs. Baffin about her husband's estate; discourse thereon; the Court readily consented that the business might fairly be debated and two were chosen on either side to end the business. Differences between Arnold Browne, master, and Daniel White, purser, of the Star, concerning their respective "quality and power," reconciled by the Court; and the duties of their office explained: the like charge given to Richard Swanley, master of the Great James, under Capt. Weddall, and that the ship fall down to Gravesend by the middle of January. Committees appointed to take care of each of the outward-bound ships, Royal James, Jonas, Star, and Eagle. Motion that Mr. Biddulph, who hath been a faithful servant to the Company, may sell his indigo or transport it; but the Court rather inclined to reward his services in some other kind, and in no wise would permit him to dispose of his own indigo. Inventory of goods presented, supposed to belong to John Browne who died at Patani. Offer of Sheriff Freeman and Mr. Coxe to furnish the Company with Bulgary red hides. Request of George Ball to have the originals of some papers useful to him; answered that he might copy out any of his books or papers in the auditor's office, but in no wise would the Court consent to part with the originals. [Four pages. Court Minute Book, VI., pp. 274–278.]
Nov. 29.
349. Advices from the Hague. The West Indian fleet has passed some days, in company with the four East Indian ships, towards the Texel, to sail thence by the first. [French. Extract from Holland Corresp.]
(1623 ?) 350. (Carleton) to the Duke of Buckingham. In speaking with the Prince of Orange, after the return of the Prince and Duke from Spain, he mentioned, amongst other distasts which incline the King towards the Spanish overtures of friendship, the "entering (by the Dutch) in the East Indies into open hostility avowed by a public act of the States General," which ill course has been pursued for some years. [Extract from Holland Corresp.]