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James I: August 1604

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James I: August 1604

312. The King to the Lord Lieutenant and Deputy. [Aug. 4.] Docquet Book, Aug. 4.

Letter to the Lieutenant and Deputy, to grant to Archibald Moore a pension of 3s. 4d. per diem, in reversion, after the death of John Gilson.

[Printed by Erck, Calendar, p. 33.]

313. Sir Henry Docwra to Cecil. [Aug. 4.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 35.

Will not write of the condition of the country, since having no public employment there, he might be supposed to write for his own private ends. Moreover, commissioners have of purpose gone the circuit, whose report may be better believed than his. Begs to remind Cecil that when he was in England, as a suitor for the grant of some lands such as others of his rank had obtained before him, he was led to hope that his government would be confirmed to him for life. It has, however, fallen out otherwise, and not only has this confirmation been denied him, but he has been forbidden to exercise any more that power which he had before by commission. His credit is thereby called in question, and it is grievous and irksome to him. Hopes that the blemish of the imputation may be taken away. "Is a meane gentleman, yet of a free and ingenuous education, & as ready to lay his services at Cecil's feete as the meanest that belongs unto him."—The Derry, 4 August 1604.

Pp. 2. Hol. Add. Endd. by Cecil's clerk: "4 August 1604, Sir Henry Docwra to my Lo."

314. Sir Ellys Jones to Sir John Davys. [Aug. 8.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 135.

Addressing him as "Noble Solicitor-General, and my especial friend," recommends to him the business contained in Sir John Jephson's letter, the principal motion being the case of the Honourable Lady Norris, to whom in all equity there ought to be great respect had.

There is a rumour here of the departure of the Lord Deputy and the sending of Sir Arthur Chichester to receive the sword. Though it be hard to change a person of whom there is so honourable testimony, yet he is glad there comes no worse a person to the steerage; for he fears the kingdom will still have use of an active spirit.

As the parts where he resides are rather open to traffic than to news of the State, he desires Sir John Davys's opinion whether this change is like to be sudden or no, and what he should expect; as he hath a suit to prosecute, which would need the Lord Deputy's presence, with his countenance and authority afterwards, that he might commence it to either of them, according to Sir John Davys's information in answer. Mr. Bingley's departure makes him trouble Sir John with his particular business; only if Burchensha be returned, he requests Mr. Dudley to inform Sir John Davys about the remitting of a charge of victuals and money upon his (Sir Ellys Jones's) company. "With my ancient love and service, which for many respects I am still forced to owe you, I leave you to God, and rest, yours very much assured at command, Ellys Jones."—Cork, 8 August 1604.

Pp. 1½. Add.: "To my honourable friend, Sr John Davies, the King's Solicitor for Ireland." Endd.: "Sir Ellys Jones, 8 August 1604."

315. By the Lord President and Council of Munster. [Aug. 14.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 137.

As it has been long made evident to the knowledge of the President and Council what enormities have grown in that province, by the maintaining for a long time hitherto of Jesuits, seminaries, and massing priests, especially by the credit laid upon them in the corporate towns; and as there was little doubt that that province and other parts of the kingdom once infested by these ill instruments would continue in the peace it has lately been reduced to, if these stirrers of sedition were taken away, "and especially now that teachers of God's most holy and true word are plentifully placed and resorting to be placed among us;"—the President and Council, knowing well that these deceiving instruments swarm in all places, and especially within the corporate towns of that province, and that, whilst they are resident amongst them the quiet of the country will be uncertain, and those that would otherwise yield obedience are kept back by the devilish enforcements of these practisers; which to prevent, and that such as have been drawn to live in darkness may receive the clear light of the Gospel, the President and Council, by His Majesty's authority, do strictly command that all Jesuits, seminaries, and massing priests of what sort soever as are remaining within one of the corporate towns of the province, do, before the last day of September next, depart and forsake any manner of residence within the province, and so to continue without returning for the space of seven years next after the date of the proclamation; and what person soever shall, after the said last day of September, receive or relieve any of them, shall suffer imprisonment during His Majesty's pleasure, and forfeit for every such offence as often as committed, 40l. sterling, the one half to the approving informer, the other half to the King's use. And whosoever, after the last day of September, shall bring unto the Lord President and Council the bodies of any Jesuits, seminaries, or massing priests, shall immediately receive a reward of 40l. for every Jesuit, and for every seminary 6l. 3s. 4d., and for every massing priest 5l., leaving him for his disobedience to be further dealt withal as shall be meet.—Cork, 14 August 1604.

Signed: H. Brouncker, Bishop of Corke and Ross, Ni. Walshe, Ja. Fullerton, R. Marshall.

Pp. 3. Copia vera. Endd.: "The copy of a proclamation from the Lo. President for the apprehending of Jesuits and seminaries."

316. The King to the Lord Lieutenant or the Deputy. [Aug. 15.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 55.

Grant of a pension of 3s. 4d. per diem, then enjoyed by John Gillson for life, to Archibald Moore, for his good services done in Ireland, for his life, from the death or surrender of said pension by said John Gillson.—Westminster, 15 August 1604.

P. 1. Orig. Add. Endd. and Enrolled.

[Printed by Erck, Calendar, p. 33.]

317. The King to the Lord Lieutenant and Deputy. [Aug. 16.] Docquet Book, Aug. 16.

Letter to the Lord Lieutenant and Deputy, in favour of Lord Roche.

318. The King to Sir Arthur Chichester, Lord Justice of Ireland. [Aug. 17.] Philad. P., vol. 1, p. 57.

To grant leave of absence into England during the King's pleasure to Sir James Fullerton, Clerk of the Cheque of the army of Ireland.—Westminster, 17 August 1604.

P. 1. Orig. Add. Endd.

319. Sir George Carey, Lord Deputy, to any of His Majesty's Council. [Aug. 18.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 136.

Warrant for a fiant of the office of collector of the composition rent of Munster, to Robert Morgan, as fully as Sir Theobald Dillon has the like office in the province of Connaught.— Leixlip, 18 August 1604.

P. 1. Orig.

320. The King to the Lord Lieutenant and Deputy. [Aug. 18.] Docquet Book, Aug. 18.

Letter to the same, to pass a grant for the room of one of the judges of the Prerogative Court and Faculties for Charles Dun, Master of Arts.

321. The King to the Lord Lieutenant and Deputy. [Aug. 18.] Docquet Book, s.d.

Letter to the same, for confirmation of privileges, grants, annuities, and pensions, to the Provost and Fellows of Trinity College.

322. Earl of Tyrconnel to Cecil. [Aug. 18.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 35 A.

The manifold injuries offered him since his departure from thence has constrained him once again to send thither his servant, Matthew Tully, the bearer, to whom he has delivered his grievances, petition-wise, to be exhibited to the Council. Beseeches Cecil's assistance.—Dublin, 18 August 1604.

P. 1. Signed. Sealed. Add. Endd.

323. Lords of the Council to the Lords Justices and Council of Ireland. [Aug. 19.] Philad. P., vol. 3, p. 17.

On the information of the Earl of Ormond to His Majesty that the late Queen had freed his own lands, and those let by him from year to year, from all cesses and impositions (subsidies only excepted), by Her letters of 30th June in the eleventh year of her reign, on condition of his forbearing to take such profits of the freeholders and inhabitants of the counties of Tipperary and Kilkenny for his expenses, as he and his ancestors used;—forasmuch as the said Earl hath made humble suit unto His Majesty for the continuance of that order, being a nobleman that hath always performed very great and faithful service to the Crown, His Majesty frees his lands in like manner. The Lord Deputy is likewise directed to take order to hasten certain suits of the said Earl, depending in Chancery and other courts, that have been delayed by the late rebellion and troubles in that realm.—Court at Whitehall, 19 Aug. 1604.

Signed: Suffolk, T. Ellesmere, Canc., T. Dorset, Gilb. Shrewsbury, Devonshire, Ro. Cecyll, E. Worcester, W. Knollys, G. Wotton.

Pp. 1½. Original. Endd. in Sir Arthur Chichester's hand: "Receaved by Sr George Carie before my time."

324. Memorials for Ireland. [Aug. 20.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 36.

Memorials for Ireland to be preferred to the Lords of the Privy Council, namely, for their decision relative to the pay of certain bands, for the dead pays, to decry the mixed monies, new contract for victuals, &c.

Pp. 2.

325. Discharge for Sir Rich. Boyle of 1,000l. [Aug. 22.] Docquet Book, Aug. 22.

Discharge for Sir Rich. Boyle of the sum of 1,000l., which by covenants should have been paid to Sir Walter Raleigh for certain lands, &c. in Ireland, which sum, by reason of his attainder, was become due to His Majesty.

326. Confirmation of Sir Geoffrey Fenton as Chief Secretary. [Aug. 23.] Docquet Book, Aug. 23.

Confirmation of the Secretaryship in Ireland for Sir Geoffrey Fenton, Knight, for term of his life, being before but during pleasure.

327. Sir Henry Brouncker to Cecil [Viscount Cranbourne (fn. 1) ]. [Aug. 23.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 37.

The Council of the province was so full of business at his first coming that he had no time to get news worth the sending. After some longer experience, observes the disposition of the people little altered, though the waste of the country enforces an outward obedience, which will continue till they grow stronger or get hope of foreign support. The towns swarm with priests and seminaries, that say mass almost publicly in the best houses, even in the hearing of all men. To avoid the suspicion of rashness, he dissembled and used no other means than persuasions, till they stood upon strong terms, assured themselves and others of His Majesty's pleasure to tolerate their idolatry, and in the end contemned all authority, as his Lordship may perceive by [their] own letter to the Lords, to which he refers him. He trusts he shall be freed from the imputation of injustice or indiscretion, God bearing him witness that he aims at nothing but the glory of his Creator and the service of His Majesty; which he knows can no other way be advanced than by emptying the corporations of all these wicked priests, the seminaries of mischief, and the very firebrands of rebellion.

The country parts he leaves to themselves, because he is not so much bound to take notice of their wilfulness, and hopes that the reformation of the towns will bring the ignorant country people to conformity. Beseeches Cecil to send him the King's pleasure under his Majesty's own hand, being the matter they stand on. Complains of his want of encouragement, half the entertainments intended for him by His Majesty, and left by Sir G. Carew, being taken from him, and the composition reestablished, so that he must buy his provisions in the market, which is like to be as dear as in London.—Cork, 23 Aug. 1604.

Hol. Pp. 2. Endd. Add.: "Bronker to Cecyll."

328. Fenton to Cranbourne. [Aug. 27.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 38.

Excuses his delay in not thanking Cecil for the dispatch of his patent, because of a great pain in his back, which grippeth him so hard that he can scarce go or stand without the help of another. He is for this reason not in case either to wait upon him before his (Cecil's) journey to the Bath, nor to attend him thither, as he and his son Boyle were determined if he allowed of it. By this unhappy accident he will be driven to remain here until his return, which he prays may be with speed, that by his wonted favour he may be returned to Ireland with some encouragement to serve the King in his place.—London, 27 August 1604.

Hol. P. 1. Add. Endd.: "Fenton to Cecyll."

329. Chichester to Cranbourne. [Aug. 28.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 39.

On his coming hither from Lyslyppe [Leixlip] for the casting of their men, heard of the arrival of seven score of islanders at the Rowte, (fn. 2) to Sir Randal M'Donnell, under the command of Donnel Greame, with such arms as they usually bear. The number and fashion of them has caused him to send for Sir Randal, charging him to bring that gentleman and his people with him. Is suspicious of these assemblies and conferences, and therefore has kept together Captain Philips's company of soldiers, who hath spent the two years past at Toom, keeping in quietness those parts which lie on the Bann side to the mouth of that river, and so along the coast which borders on Scotland. Knows no country that better requires looking after, nor a better man for the business than Captain Philips, which has made him recommend him to the Lord Lieutenant, and advise that his company be not disbanded till the country be better settled.

Suggests an increase of the force at Toom, as there are few wards better placed for the purpose in the kingdom.

Is sensible of his unfitness for the greatness lately extended to him, the charge being too weighty for so mean a personage. But was encouraged by sight of his letters, knowing that no man can so support him as Cecil.—Knockfergus, 28 August 1604.

Hol. P. 1. Add. Endd.: "Chichester to Cecil."

330. Earl of Tyrone to Cranbourne. [Aug. 30.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 40.

Having occasion to write to the Lord Lieutenant, could not but write a few lines to Cecil, to thank him for sundry favours. He has lately sustained some hard measure by some that seek part of his land by impanelling inquisitions of lands of ignorant people of Tyrone without his privity, as he has at large acquainted the Lord Lieutenant, expecting remedy at his hands. Will not, for the present, trouble Cecil further, meaning, if he be not holpen in these causes, to go over himself.—Dongannon, 30 August 1604.

P. 1. Signed. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Tyrone to Cecyll."

331. Memorial. [Aug.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 36 A.

Richard Netterville has offered him 400l. above a year ago to get him the fee-farm of sundry good things he has in lease and reversion within the Pale; but would give 1,000 marks and more, it is believed, rather than they should be passed from him. Their rent reserved to His Majesty is about 60l. per ann.

The Abbey of Athlone is not in lease to any, and is now worth 160l. per ann., and every year in time of peace it will be worth 200l. better. Has known it in the most plentiful times set at 260l. This is besides the castle and the demesnes, to which all the customs and duties appertain.

The manor of Trym is not passed, albeit the Scot thought to have comprised it in his grant of Moyg[l]are, as though Moyg[l]are and Trym had been all one, whereas, indeed, they are two distinct manors; and albeit that Trym be in lease, yet he verily believes the fee simple thereof will yield 1,000 marks, or haply 1,000l.

The abbey of Kilmainham is most ruinous, and yet the repairing thereof very chargeable to His Majesty. There is but 50 acres of land adjoining to it that yieldeth any profit to the Deputy, and 200 acres that lie upon the north side of the river in common that yields no profit at all; and for the house, no Deputy hath used it since Sir Wm. Fitz William's time, but only as a garner to serve their grain, which may be laid up in the King's storehouse at Dublin far more commodiously. The fee simple of this will yield 800l. or 1,000l.

P. 1. Endd.: "Memorial."

332. Another statement of the rents and values of certain lands, the years of the leases yet unexpired: lease of the customs of Dublin: proposition for exporting corn and beef into foreign parts. [Aug.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 216, 36 B.

List of Lands and Tenements.
County Kilkenny The Rectory of Thomastown.
Dunkitt Rectory.

The Monastery of Selskar, in county Wexford.

The Abbey of Raban, (fn. 3) in county Midd.

The Monastery of Inchvinary [Inchvickriny], in county Roscommon.

The customs of Dublin.

The lands of Richard Netterville.—1604.

Pp. 2.

Footnotes

  • 1. Created Viscount Cranbourne, 20 Aug. 1604.
  • 2. "The Rowte and the Glinnes" in Antrim was the M'Donnell territory.
  • 3. Perhaps Rathban in the county of Mayo.