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James I: February 1606

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641. Complaint of some indicted of Recusancy, against Sir James Let. [Feb. 7.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 10.

We whose names ensueth, citizens of the city of Dublin, being amongst many others presented and indicted before His Majesty's late commissioners in the Tholsell of the said city for not going to church, which indictments were returned into His Majesty's chief place, and process issued forth from that court to the sheriffs of the said city of Dublin, to attach us and many else, where upon our very first appearance being articled withal, we humbly prayed the Lord Chief Justice Ley to grant us the benefit of His Majesty's laws, and that we might see the copies of our indictments, whereunto we might plead by course of law; who answered us flatly by these words, "You shall not have any copies of indictments here;" but commanded the Deputy Clerk of the Crown to read our indictments, and compelled us to plead to the said indictments presently at the bar; all which many persons of good credit there present can testify, if terror and fear of the threats and rigour used at these times do not suppress truth. And this upon our souls, as we hope to be saved the dreadful day of judgment, is true; and therefore have hereunto subscribed our names the 7th of February 1605.

John Ennos.

Roger Creffe.

Robert Eustace.

Thomas x Garnon. his mark.

Nicholas x Daniel. his mark.

Henry Browne.

James Quin.

Ab. Black.

J. M'John More.

We whose names ensueth were present when the abovenamed persons did require the copies of their indictments and were denied it by the Lord Chief Justice, as above is rehearsed.

Thos. Lawless, present.

Geo. Shirlock, present.

P. 1. Signed.

642. Sir A. Chichester to Sir J. Davys. [Feb. 8.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 167.

Warrant for fiant of pardon for Sir Oghy O'Hanlon, Knight, of Tonragy'e [Tanderagee] in the county of Armagh, and 17 persons, of whom Oghy Oge O'Hanlon, son and heir to the said Sir Oghy, is the first.—Dublin Castle, 8 February 1605.

P. 1. Orig. Signed. Add.

643. Sir A. Chichester to Chas. Calthorpe and Sir John Davys. [Feb. 9.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 163.

Warrant for fiant for giving Maximilian Van der Leur, a Dutch merchant, lately made a free denizen of this realm, free liberty for 12 years upon any ground he shall contract or compound for in Leinster, to burn woad, herbs, and roots into ashes for the making of soap; and to sow and grind all kinds of seeds for the making of oils, paying only the accustomed duties; and none other to exercise the like trade. Provided, that, unless the said Maximilian shall begin to burn ashes and to make oils within two years, the grant shall be void.—Dublin, 9 February 1605.

P. 1. Orig. Signed. Add.

644. Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Salisbury. [Feb. 10.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 11.

Sir Charles Willmot, for his government of Kerry and Desmond, expected an entertainment of 10s. a day, as others of the like commands; but, being left out of the establishment of the 1st of April, he (Chichester) could not sanction the allowance. Conceives Wilmot was omitted by reason of his pension of 250l. granted to him (as he thinks) in lieu of sums due to him upon account of his former services, and not to debar him from the benefit of his growing employments. He (Chichester), according to his promise to Sir Charles Wilmot, mentioned his case to the Lord Lieutenant, and he had to this time waited for an answer. Having since then endured much unkind and undeserved ill usage at the hands of the Lord President of Munster (as with grief he alleges), he had now importuned for licence to repair to Court for redress.

Chichester would willingly have kept him in Ireland in respect of his worth and sufficiency, but found little means to give him satisfaction according to his worth and desires. Recommends him to his Lordship's good favour as a gentleman of extraordinary carriage and deserts.—His Majesty's Castle at Dublin, 10 February 1605.

Pp. 2. Hol. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Lord Deputy of Ireland to the Earl of Salisbury."

645. Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Devonshire. [Feb. 10.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 12.

Recommends Sir Richard Morrison, who, with so ill payments, is unable to undergo the charge of the places committed unto him, yet he (Chichester) is unable to help him without taking it from others. For whilst there was due to a company of 50 foot for their monthly lendings above 50l., the sub-treasurer hath seldom impressed above 30l. or 35l. to any, by which means the captains' and officers' pays are, for the most part, remaining in the King's hand for want of treasure. This occasions most men of quality within the land, who receive little or nothing for their governments, to importune licence to repair thither to seek better payments. About October last, he (Chichester) wrote to his Lordship that Sir Richard, understanding the citizens of Waterford were labouring by treaty with others to free themselves from the eye of government over the city, he could willingly accept of some offers they made him, if his service there was not thought more available for the King's proceedings than his particular. In which resolution, if it stood with the Earl of Devonshire's liking, he still continued. But with the fresh memory of their late obstinacy, and his knowledge that their affections were no way bettered, he would not advise the quitting of the superintendence which, since that time, had been held over them. He rather wished that those once intended citadels were taken in hand and finished, when the command would be bettered, and then their murmurings and plottings would have end.

He need not press his Lordship for his favourable countenance, for his love and service had already wrought it with him; to which in all humbleness he recommended him.— Dublin Castle, 10 February 1605.

Pp. 2. Hol. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Devonshire."

646. Sir A. Chichester to Sir J. Davys. [Feb. 12.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 166.

Warrant for fiant of pardon for 63 persons, of whom Caphar Oge M'Caphar O'Donell is the first.—Dublin, 12 February 1605.

At foot is a note in Sir Arthur Chichester's handwriting:—

"It is entended that these partis shall putt in such surties as wee think fett to accept for their futor good behaviour, and they are to passe without delaye, payinge no fee to anie officer, it being for speciall purposes."

P. 1. Orig.

647. Sir Arthur Chichester to [ (fn. 1) ]. [Feb. 13.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 13.

Finds Mr. Attorney so weak that he prays his promotion into the Court of Common Pleas, where there is a void. An addition of some 50l. should be made to his fee, for that it was less than he now received. For the place of Attorney, knows none fitter nor so worthy as Mr. Solicitor within that kingdom, and assures himself, it being void, he (the Earl of Devonshire) would have assigned it unto him. There was lately come thither one Mr. Robert Jacobe, and in the place of Solicitor he will do the King very worthy service. Prays therefore that the Solicitor being made Attorney, Mr. Robert Jacob might be graced with the place of Solicitor.

Complains of the great want of the judges promised by His Majesty's letters of the 20th June, for the circuits into the provinces of Munster and Connaught. Was accordingly enforced to supply them with such as they had. Neither could he remove Sir John Everarde, according to the King's said letters, having no man to put in his place, which might not be left void; but he had acquainted him with the King's pleasure, and advised him to conformity in resorting to the church, but found him better resolved to resign his place than yield thereunto. Urges in behalf of Mr. Thomas Moigne, that, seeing he missed the bishoprick, he would support his appointment to the archdeaconry of Meath. Mr. Woods, besides the deanery of Armagh and the vicarage of Granard, has held in title the archdeaconry about 11 years, yet had continued in England all that time without licence of absence from the Deputy of State. Unto the archdeaconry there are annexed four several churches; viz., Kells, Burrie, Ballrathe, and Duleek. Woods had set over the tithes and glebes to Sir Patrick Barnewell, a principal recusant, without any reservation for the discharge of the cures, and during his absence so many years they had all been unserved. He had also suffered the chancels of the churches and the dwelling-house of the archdeacon to fall into dilapidation, albeit the same was not burnt or spoiled by the rebels. There had come lately thither one Dode (carrying the name of a doctor of physic), who getting notice of Mr. Woods's forfeiture, was near preventing his (Chichester's) intention in behalf of Mr. Moigne, by applying himself to the Primate of Ardmagh, who is superintendent over Meath, until the Bishop be admitted and installed. But he had now secured it as sure as he might for Mr. Moigne. If Mr. Woods use any means to oppose his doings in Mr. Moigne's behalf, he has given him the reason moving him thereto, and beseeches him to stop his proceedings in the Arches and other courts.—Dublin Castle, 13 February 1605.

Pp. 3. Hol. Not add. or endd.

648. Sir John Davys to the Earl of Salisbury. [S.P., Ireland], vol. 218, 14.

Resumes the account he gave him before Christmas last, of the proceedings up to that time, against the recusants at Dublin and others that disobeyed the King's proclamation for reducing the people to church. The last Hilary term, six other aldermen and chief citizens were called into the Star Chamber to be Censured in the same manner as the others were the year before. Three only of them passed the Censure of the Court and were fined 100l. apiece, the other three were spared that time because they agreed to a conference to endeavour a satisfaction of their consciences; but the principal business that passed that term consisted in this: There were divers fines imposed; and, these fines being estreated into the Exchequer, when the sheriffs of Dublin had impanelled a jury to inquire of their lands and goods, and to extend and value them that the fines might be raised, there were offered to the jury certain deeds of gift that had most apparent marks of fraud and trust. By these deeds five of the most substantial of them had given in general words all their goods and chattels to their children, prentices, or friends, not reserving so much as their wearing apparel. Besides it appeared that the deeds were antedated six months at least before the delivery, for they were not made until they were called in question for their recusancy. Moreover the donors themselves continued in the possession of the goods, so that it was a most manifest collusion and mockery to all the world. Notwithstanding, such faith was given to them by the jury that they would find nothing for the King; and so the effect of the Censure in the Star Chamber was like to be defeated by this gross and apparant fraud. Thereupon the Attorney-General resorted back again to the same Court, to maintain and make good his own proceedings, both by condemning those fraudulent deeds and by punishing the contrivers and publishers thereof, to the prejudice of the King and the Commonwealth. Accordingly the Attorney-General proceeded against the donors and donees ore tenus this term in the Star Chamber there, where, all the judges being called to assist the Court, the deeds of gift were condemned as fraudulent and void in law to bar the King's execution, which was the best precedent and example that had been made in that kingdom for many years. Nevertheless the truth was, there were very few that conformed themselves (he spoke of the wealthier sort), because they hoped (as he heard) for a countermand of those proceedings out of England; but he (Sir John) doubted no such matter, but rather looked for countenance and encouragement in that behalf.

The contrivers of the mutinous petition were still in restraint, but no judicial proceeding had yet been commenced against them for their contempt. The Star Chamber would prove a good school-house to teach that people obedience, if the authority of that Court were upholden and used as it had been of late; and for the public justice in other courts, it began to have a good formal course.

The justices of assize were appointed that Lent to visit the provinces. Sir John's lot fell upon Munster, which would be a long progress, yet he hoped to return before Easter, and he would then not forget to advertise him particularly of the state of things there.

Had heard from the Lord Deputy of the proposed promotion of the Attorney-General to the Common Pleas bench, and of his own promotion to be Attorney-General, and Mr. Jacob to be Solicitor General. From the latter he expected good assistance. Mr. Jacob was once commended unto Salisbury, and brought unto him by Sir Michael Hicks, for the Solicitor's place in Ireland in Queen Elizabeth's time, but he doubted whether he (Salisbury) remembered that circumstance.

Pp. 3. Hol. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Sir John Davies to the Earl of Salisbury."

649. Lord Barry to the Earl of Salisbury. [Feb. 15.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 15.

Would have written to him of the state of this country, but referred him to the bearer, Sir Charles Wilmot, who is as fully acquainted with it. Had been of late troubled for the fine imposed upon him in Lord Graye's. time, and beseeches him (Salisbury) to be a mean that he may have a discharge for the same. Intends this season to go to the Bath, by reason of a sore leg, which was twice broken with riding of horses, and from thence to make a journey to see him. Prays him to write thither that he may be licensed to depart without interruption.—Barry court, 15 February 1605.

P. 1. Signed. Add. Endd.: "Lord Barry to the E. of Salisbury."

650. Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Devonshire. [Feb. 17.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 16.

Had received his letters of the 19th October last, in behalf of the Bishop of Limerick, requiring him to cause a grant by letters patents to be made to him of the bishoprick of Kilfennor [Kilfenora] and Drumore, being both of them, as was alleged, for nearness and situation, (fn. 2) convenient to be annexed to that other of Limerick, and for value (said to be but of 50l. yearly) in lieu of 50l. rent, belonging to the see of Limerick, wrongfully detained by some patentees and undertakers of escheated lands in Munster, whom the King would not have disturbed, being so long settled. Now the Earl of Devonshire knew that Drumore stood in Sir Arthur Magneise [M'Gennis] his country, at least 120 miles from Limerick, and in that respect altogether unfit to be joined with that see; true it was, that the annual value of it was very small, the deanery, bishoprick, and prebends thereto pertaining, not exceeding 50l. a year, all which were held in custodiam by Mr. Lewis Jones, vicar of Ardee, upon whom Chichester had purposed it should have been bestowed, in order that, being otherwise seated near it, he might reside upon it for the most part, and with painstaking settle in that vast country at least some show of a church, where now it is nothing else but utter desolation. Suggests that the bishoprick of Drumore and the two prebends might be united to the deanery of Drumore, (thus extinguishing the name of the bishoprick,) and conferred upon him; or otherwise that the deanery and the two prebendships should be united to the bishoprick, and that he might hold some other thing in commendam for his better maintenance in that dignity.

The other bishoprick of Kilfennor he should be content to pass according to the King's letters, but thereof he would first expect to hear further from him.—Dublin, 17 February 1605.

Pp. 2. Signed. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Lord Deputy Chichester to the Earl of Devonshire."

651. Sir Akthur Chichester to Sir John Davys, SolicitorGeneral. [Feb. 21.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 165.

Warrant to draw a surrender of our very good Lord Muriertagh, Bishop of Killalowe, to His Majesty, of all the lands found by inquisition, taken at Castletown in Arra, on the 13th January last, and enrolled in Chancery to have descended to him, as son and heir of Tirlough M'I. Brien Dorra, deceased.—Dublin, 21 February 1605.

P. 1. Original.

652. Sir Arthur Chichester to any of His Majesty's Council. [Feb. 24.] Carte Papers, vol. 61, p. 164.

Warrant for fiant for Sir Oliver St. John, Knight, to be, pursuant to His Majesty's letters, dated the 12th December, in the third year of his reign, Master-General of the Ordnance.

P. ½.Original.

653. Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Salisbury. [Feb. 26.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 17.

After having proceeded somewhat further with the recusants of this city, and having by law overthrown many fraudulent conveyances, made to evade the fines that should be imposed upon them, they soon after received his letter and the general letters of the Lords in answer to theirs touching the business. Was glad to find from his letters that their proceedings had hitherto so well answered the directions in them, for they had differed from them in one point only. Some of the principals and most obstinate in that city were still in restraint in the Castle, to which they had likewise committed old Nettervyle and one Luttrell for manifest contempt, and refusing to make any manner of submission, although the Viscount Gormanston and others gave them example, upon which they were long since enlarged, upon bonds of appearance when they were called for, as his letters had signified to be his pleasure. This Nettervile was the first drawer of the petition, and being mildly dealt with in respect of his age and impotence, in giving him the liberty of his house and walks, he was grown more obstinate than formerly he made show of, and refused to give bonds engaging not willingly to permit Jesuits and seminaries to have access unto him. To this they urged him the more, inasmuch as, since his last restraint in his house, he had had mass there (as Chichester was credibly informed), with a curtain drawn betwixt him and the priest, that he might swear he saw no priest during his commitment to so gentle a restraint. And though he would not himself probably, upon oath, deny the same, yet such was their general affection one to another, and to the ill cause they had in hand, that it was almost impossible to produce any to prove it viva voce in open court. If Nettervyle and Luttrell should refuse to give bonds and submission, he besought him (Salisbury) to send for them thither (as he had done for Sir Patrick Barnewall); which would strike terror into the hearts of others, whose eyes are fixed upon the events of these beginnings. The meaner sorts in the most part of this city, and in sundry other parts of the kingdom, did in reasonable manner conform themselves and resort to the church. The better sort were so infected with the poison of the priests, that they obstinately refused obedience other than such as they received from their doctrine.

Few or no seminaries or Jesuits of name had yet departed the kingdom; neither had they made any curious search for them, knowing they should rather fail than accomplish their desires, for every town, hamlet, or house is to them a sanctuary.

In order to effect an abatement of charge, as desired by the King, a small sum of money will buy out many unnecessary charges. With 300l., ready money, he had lately brought out a charge of 300l. a year, continued by patent to certain septs of galloglass ever since the government of Sir Henry Sidney. The treasurer having strictly forbidden his ministers to borrow for His Majesty's service, and to hold the forces together, he had run himself out of money and credit. The charge of that half year, by the computation of the paymasters, would come to 35,000l., to be paid out of the treasure coming from England, besides apparel. They had received since the 1st October, when the half year began, but 12,000l.: they had borrowed 6,500l. more, which, as they heard, was not yet repaid.

According to his direction, had sent the doubles of the letters to the President of Mounster, who had taken somewhat a more violent course than they had, grounding the same upon some letters he had received (as alleged) from His Majesty.

Suggests that, upon the reducement of the charge for the army, the King should bestow some allowance upon the college near that city, for the education of such scholars as they should choose out of the several provinces, who in time will be the best means of this kingdom's reformation. Had written to Mr. Montgomerie, bishop elect of the Dyrrie, to be a suitor in this matter to the King. Fifty soldiers' pays would be well bestowed that way for a time.

Thanks him for his promise of the ward of Sir Robt. Bassett, if he die before he (Chichester) shall be recalled.

Sir Patrick Barnewall had given him, at his request, a copy of his letter containing many unjust observations against Sir James Ley. They would never prove for truth, for surely he was a very grave discreet judge and worthy councillor, and Sir Patrick was the first man that ever he had heard speak ill of him; and he was no scandal but an ornament of the bench he sat upon, as some of Sir Patrick's own faction had openly declared before them, being called to deliver their opinions on him. As for the matter of Sir Patrick's complaint, the Chief Justice would sufficiently acquit himself. Will send Sir Patrick as soon as he can provide himself for his journey, being then (as he said) altogether without money. Humbly craves pardon for his tedious writing at this time, being carried further than he intended.—His Majesty's Castle at Dublin, 26 February 1605.

Since the writing of the former, they had taken one Lawler, a priest, whose name was well known to the Lord Lieutenant. They got him by the endeavours of Sir Oliver Lambeart, who set his lieutenant, who was then one of their provost marshals, to watch him, and he was quietly taken with some papers, and divers Popish trinkets. He was a notable seducer of the people, and called himself Vicar-General of Dublin and Kildare, and so reputed throughout Leinster.

Lain for a wind to the 9th March.

Pp. 5. Hol. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Salisbury."

654. Sir Arthur Chichester to the Earl of Devonshire. [Feb. 26.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 18.

When first he understood of the inhuman practices of treasons in England, he set many inquiries on foot in many parts of Ireland to ascertain the peoples' affections, and whether any there had correspondence with the traitors in England. He had received many advices of the priests' violent endeavours (for they were never more busy) and the people's aptness to believe and follow their Romish doctrine; being generally disconcerted without cause, unless it were for the mild and temperate proceedings of him and the Council, in case of their conformity in resorting to the church. Unless they should be more roundly drawn thereto, especially in the cities and towns, he was hopeless of any reformation or good settlement. At his being in the north the last summer, he found the Countess of Tyrone much discontented with her Lord. He made some use thereof at that time, by directing Sir Toby Calefield to sound her touching some points which he delivered to him. What he returned to him would appear by the double of his letters, which he sent therewith. He well conceived it to be a very uncivil and uncommendable part to feed the humour of a woman to learn the secrets of her husband; but his zeal to the King's safety and the charge committed to him, would, he hoped, minister excuse to his unaccustomed carriage in that kind.

Had advised him [Sir Toby] to deal with Bartholomew Owen, in whom he (Chichester) claimed some interest, having bestowed a void pension upon him after many protestations of his faithful services to His Majesty; and had suggested a course for Sir Toby to sound the depth of their intentions. He (the Earl of Devonshire) might use them as he thought good, for he would acquaint none with them but himself. The Baron of Dungannon was come to him, and upon questioning him, he understood by him that Harry Haggan was returned from his brother Harry into England, through cause of discontent, as he gave it out. Suggests, if he be there, that he were questioned by others, his Lordship taking no notice thereof, for sure his going to the Archduke was to no good end. In that present seeming peace there must be more care taken to erect and maintain places of importance; or else what they had done was but to drive out the wolf with much less travail and expense, leaving the door open for him to re-enter, which he propounded, because his letters signified a cast intended. If no better payment were made, he should not grieve if they were all discharged, but such as were placed in wards and places of advantage to give entrance, upon occasion, to new fores; and in his opinion it would not be long before they were called into it, if the great ones were left at liberty.

Complains of the want of money, and sees no remedy but that their men must break and fall upon the country next to them. All things there were worse than in time of war, and a greater scarcity of money; and he protested he never saw so miserable and poor commanders and state in all his life; most men being disheartened to labour in the service, and wishing any employment to be discharged of this, where, a fourth part of their payments being taken away in the coin, they would give the one half of the remains to have the other. Is wearied with their complaints, and can no longer stay them from resorting to England, to which he found them generally inclined. The principal recusants of Dublin were very obstinate. The meaner sort did in reasonable manner conform themselves in most parts of the towns. With the country they had not dealt, unless with advice and persuasion with some few particular men. Some more of the most perverse of the city they had committed this last term, and he would send Sir Patrick Barnewell over so soon as he could provide himself for his journey. Sir Patrick had given him a copy of his letters to Lord Salisbury, with scandalous imputations on the Lord Chief Justice, of which he was most free, being, indeed, and upright Judge, and so esteemed of all men that ever he heard speak, Sir Patrick excepted.

Is gratified to find they had hitherto in all points held the course which his letters prescribed, having long since enlarged the Viscount Gormanston and the rest, upon submission, and bonds to appear when called for. Netterville and some others they had committed upon a later contempt, for refusing of appearance and entering into bonds; and, indeed, Netterville was the first contriver of the petition, albeit he did not so obstinately defend and maintain it as Sir Patrick Barnewell.

Understood not of any priest, seminary, or Jesuit of any that had yet departed the kingdom. Is pleased to find that he approved their not making a curious search for them, for he found that in searching for them they should receive a foil, for every town, hamlet, and house was to them a sanctuary. About the beginning of winter they had employed divers provost marshals into the shires of the Pale and neighbour country, against the many thieves and idle persons, and they have done service in many places. He wished that, upon the reducing of the army (if any should be), some discharged captains and officers might be employed that way, with some increase to their pensions. One such in every shire, for a year or two, would make idlers to apply their labours, and bring forth good effect in sundry places. In the provinces and three other shires there were some already established by letters patents, namely, at Loughfoyle, Ballyshannon, and Knockfergus. If 50 men's pays were given to the college, on the reduction of the army, for the maintenance and education of such scholars of this nation as they should select out of different parts of that kingdom, it would breed up many that might prove good members in this church and commonwealth. To ease him in this motion, he had written to Mr. Mountgomery, Bishop elect of Derry, to be an humble suitor to His Majesty. As he seldom received answers to these and other such like suggestions, he feared they were not so pleasing as he wished they were; but the Earl of Devonshire's place, and that he held under him, required him thereto, and he humbly desired to be excused, and would be more silent thereafter in causes of that nature.—Dublin Castle, 26 February 1605.

Announces in a postscript the arrest of Lawler, styling himself Vicar-General of Dublin and Kildare, with some papers which they had not yet perused thoroughly, and some Popish vestments. Promises more about him in his next.

Hol. Pp. 6. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Sir A. Chichester to the E. of Devonshire." Encloses,

655. A Copy of a Letter for my Lord Lieutenant. (fn. 3) [Jan. 25.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 18 I.

Not meeting with any intelligence since his coming down that, as he thought, required his Lordship's speedy knowledge, he made bold to forbear writing until some other business gave him occasion to send up the bearer, his servant. Resorted to Q h a g n a b a (Dungan non) two or three times to seek opportunity to have conference, with guryng (the lady) about the business whereof his Lordship used some speech with him, but ever failed glyygur Rueyer (till the Earl) was gone towards the Pale, or l then she sent for him chiefly to inquire what it he had done at Dublin about re-getting of her chain (ure punlnr). which, at the request of her Lord, she had lent Weston (Jrfgba) a year past, and now she expected it is agreed she shall be cozened thereof. He being able to give her little satisfaction therein, she used many bitter and malicious speeches of her husband (ure unsonag), recounting many violences which he had used and done to her in his drunkenness, and that she is so weary of his unquiet life, that if she could get but that chain (gvng punwar), or some recompence for the same, to buy but 100 cows, she would leave him, however poorly she lived. Finding her in that good humour for his purpose, he advised her to purchase protectors from her husband's tyranny, and to be revenged on him for all his injuries at once. On her asking him which way, he told her, by giving secret notice if she knew of any practice the Earl had in hand against the peace of that kingdom. She answered that, if she knew any such, she would not for all the world, however much she hated him, be known to accuse him in anything that should endanger his life. Upon assuring her of his secresy and discretion, she sware, upon a book, that she knew nothing of certainty (for of all others he would impart no such secret to her); but she did think in her own mind, and so did many others of the country (to use her own phrase), that Henry Haggan was sent over about some business that he dare not commit to writing, and that Morrogh O'Quin, the Earl's attending servant, was to have gone over to bring news from his son and H. Haggan, for he will have no secrets put in letters. He told her that the corvette was sent from the King of Spain, as the whole country thought. He knew very well that H. Haggan would never have taken it, but with the Earl's privity. That discourse being ended, he asked her what friendship she thought was betwixt her Lord and the Earl of Tirconnell. She assured him that he was altogether upon her husband's council, and so were all the Lords in those parts (naming the young M'Quyer [Maguire] and M'Mahound). Except it were Harry Oge, she knew not one that wished him any hurt, but would be ruled by him. Sir Tyrlowe M'Henry also and the Earl of Tyrone were very good friends. And lastly she said, she had many times heard them talk angrily against the King (to use his (sic) own words), and that they hoped the world would be better for them shortly: and that she knew in her own mind that, if they knew how in the world to help themselves, they would. That there was any adherence or intelligence, between the traitors and Papists in England and her husband, she denied, with many book oaths, ever to have known or suspected any such matter. She had promised, if she could learn anything thereof, he should know; and he had sworn it should never be known. Thereupon he had engaged, if she should be driven to complain upon her husband, he (the Lord Lieutenant) would do her justice, with much favour.

As for Bartholomew Owen, finding him well contented with the kindness he had received from the Earl since his return from England, he thought it no fit time to break the matter plainly to him; but having his company often, and treating him as kindly as he could, he (as he professed, out of much love,) did importune him earnestly to read certain Popish books he had, and to have conference with one Hixsie, a priest, who was then in the country; for, besides the benefit of salvation which would fall to his lot thereby, he would prove it (he said) to agree best with worldly policy; for he assured him, that a friar told him, at his being in England, that there were 32 English Earls and Lords converted to the Romish religion, and that there were 50,000 gentlemen and the better sort of commons converted since His Majesty's coronation, over and above those of the late Queen's time; and that, though this treason had miscarried, the Catholices were grown so resolved by the animating of priests, that doubtless they would attempt some dangerous matter, and that not only Papists, but in general Protestants, were likewise discontented with the times. "Well, Bartholomew," quoth I, "let them shuffle as well as they can in England, I pray thee tell me, should not all we that are in this kingdom have gone to the pot, if the treason against the King's Majesty had taken effect ?" "No, by God," said he, "it was never thought. The Lord Deputy and Council, all commanders and soldiers whatsoever, should have been used honourably, and sent away without the offer of one jot of violence." "Well," quoth I, "supose we had been gone, then would your misery have begun; for the Earl of Tyrone would have sought to be King, and divers of his own rank would have withstood him, and then you would have saved us a labour in killing one another." "No" said he, "the Earl would have asked no more than his rightful inheritance which his ancestors enjoyed, from the river of Boyne [Ban] to the Fynne at Lough Foyle with his Eryatts (Uriaghts); and that every other Lord should have governed his own country according to their ancient customs; that a Council of Estate should have been established of all the Earls and Lords of the countries and divers of the Barons of the Pale; and that they should have sovereign power, by a general consent to govern all, to hold correspondence with foreign princes, to decide all controversies and differences that might arise between the Lords of countries." "For God's sake," quoth I, "tell me who were the plotters of this commonwealth ?" Then he smiled, and said, "It was nothing but his own imagination." And thus at that time ended our dialogue.—25 January 1605.

Pp. 3. Endd.: "A copy of a letter for my Lord Lieutenant."

656. Thomas [Jones], Archbishop of Dublin, Lord Chancellor, to the Earl of Salisbury. [Feb. 26.] S.P. Ireland, vol. 218, 19.

In his (the Earl of Salisbury's) late letter to the Lord Deputy and that Council, it was stated that Sir Patrick Barnewell, by a private letter to some of that honourable table, had taxed the Court of Chancery in this kingdom with unlawful proceedings, which he (the Chancellor) took to heart, to be so undeservedly attacked, so soon after his advancement to that eminent dignity. But upon his being called before the Lord Deputy and Council, he had obstinately denied any such taxations of him, or that he had cause to tax the Chancery with any like matter. This induces both the Lord Deputy, that Council, and himself to think that by the Chancery was meant the Court of Castle Chamber, for the procedings there have indeed been distasteful to him and other recusants. And sorry he is to see that a gentleman of Sir Patrick Barnewell's education should be so forward as to be envious in himself against so worthy and so great a gentleman as Sir James Ley, who was both a wise councillor and a sincere and upright judge ; but this had ever been, and was the untoward disposition of that people (amongst whom this knight is a professed ringleader) to carp at the proceedings of that State, if they concerned either His Majesty's service or their own conformity. But they might account themselves most happy to find such uprightness and indifference in the judgements of the State in England, that the informations of these men shall not carry credit to injure their poor reputations without due examinations. And for his part he would desire the continuance of his favour no longer than his orders, courses, and decrees in the place he held, should carry in themselves that uprightness and sincerity, which the honour of that place and trust reposed in him by His sacred Majesty might require at his hands.—Dublin, 26 February 1605.

Pp. 2. Hol. Add. Endd.: "Lord Chancellor of Ireland to the Earl of Salisbury."

657. Sir Jeffrey Fenton to the Earl of Salisbury. [Feb. 28.] S.P., Ireland, vol. 218, 20.

In his late letters had suggested reforms to work that kingdom to a better settlement than the iniquity of former years spent in wars and rebellion would bear. And comparing the humours of those times with the mild estate of the time present, which is more apt to embrace good impressions, he submitted his observations, gathered out of the many years he had lived there in so many diversities and changes of time, remaining there himself, a poor labouring instrument, to push at the wheel of that reformation so far as his decayed strength would bear ; in which he besought his Lordship to favour his honest meaning, how far soever his labours in that kind might seem unworthy.

For that time he made bold only to put him in mind of the grave device, conceived by his father not long before his death for changing the course of the Treasurer's office in that land, by putting the administration of all His Majesty's treasure into the hands of two of the Privy Council of that State, and they to hold that charge but for two years only, and so, from two years to two years, to appoint other two succesively, and to be men of good choice. His Lordship seemed to think that by this course His Majesty's treasure should have a more just and orderly distribution, to the contentment of the servictor, than it had, now that the office stood engrossed into the hands of one alone, besides other advantages which he enumerated.

This device it pleased his Lordship to debate with him not long before the death of the last Treasurer, Sir Henry Wallopp; intending (as it seemed then) to propone it further, and to have the plot put in execution upon Sir Henry Wallopp's leaving the office, either by death or otherwise. And now he was bold to revive it to him, and so to leave it to him to be brought forth or suppressed in the first birth.

Had acquainted the Lord Deputy with the project, who took good liking of it, and thought it a matter worthy of good consideration.—Dublin, 28 February 1605.

Pp. 2. Hol. Sealed. Add. Endd.: "Sir Jeff. Fenton to the Earl of Salisbury."

658. Lords of the Council to Sir Arthur Chichester, Lord Deputy of Ireland. [Feb. 28.] Philad. P., vol. 3, p. 59.

Payment to be made to the Earl of Thomond, in harps, of 100l. 10s. 5d., which he claims to be due to him from His Majesty for the entertainment of his foot band (whereof he was discharged the 4th September 1604), and 224l. for his entertainment as commander of the forces of Thomond.— Court at Whitehall, 28 February 1605.

Signed: T. Ellesmere, Canc., J. T. Dorset, Suffolke, Devonshyre, Salisbury, Jo. Popham.

P. 1. Orig. Add. Endd. in Sir Arthur Chichester's hand.

Footnotes

  • 1. Blank in MS.
  • 2. Vide supra (p. 331), the King's letter to the Lord Lieutenat, in which this allegation is recited along with others, as the ground on which the grant is sought for.
  • 3. Sir Toby Caulfield's account, as it seems, (see p. 406,) of his interviews with the Countess of Tyrone and Bartholomew Owen.