Venice: December 1511

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Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 2, 1509-1519. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1867.

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December 1511

Dec. 10. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliv. p. 86, tergo. 134. The Doge and Senate to Lorenzo Trivisano, Secretary at the [Papal] Court.
To remind the Pope and the Spanish ambassador, that the slightest stir made at the present moment by the King of England would bring the affairs of the French to ruin.
[Italian, 57 lines.]
Dec. 14. Sanuto Diaries, v. xiii. p. 242. 135. Contents of Letters from the Secretary Trevisan, in Rome, dated 27th November to 7th December.
Had received letters from England, dated 9th November, how the King had seen the articles of the League, and will act and sign it; and is to send an agent to Rome.
Dec. 14. Sanuto Diaries, v. xiii. p. 243. 136. Contents of a Letter received by Zuan Badoer, Doctor and Knight, from Count Hieronimo Porzia, dated Rome, 28 November.
Letters had been received from England from one Piero de Rizo, a papal agent, that he could elicit nothing more from the King, save that he professes readiness to effect an adjustment between the Pope and the Christian powers. Count Porzia had been told by a leading churchman of great ability and experience, that the Cardinal of England had said to him—“I am more afraid of Spain than of France, on account of the uncertainty of his keeping faith, as seen heretofore, although it is a question of his own interest.” The Cardinal also stated that the late seizures of several of his King's couriers, both going and coming, was very unfortunate, but should the Emperor accede to terms, the League would be joined by England also, who leans more towards the Emperor's grandson [Charles of Burgundy] than towards Spain.
Dec. 14. Sanuto Diaries, v. xiii. p. 245. 137. Contents of two Letters from Hironimo Campanato to Piero Venier, dated Naples, 23rd and 29th November.
Had heard from the Duke of Montalto, that one of the daughters of the late King Philip of Castile was to marry the son of the Duke of Lorraine, who was to receive Savoy, Languedoc, and the kingdom of Naples after the death [of King Ferdinand], in which case “the great King” [Lewis XII.] would again become “Petit Jean.” Had heard from the Venetian secretary at Rome that two ambassadors were elected, one for Spain and the other for England.
In date of the 29th, writes that on the preceding day the Duke of Monteleone told him that the old Queen of Naples had shown him advices from England, how the army of King Henry had marched against France.
Dec. 15. Sanuto Diaries, v. xiii. p. 250. 138. The merchant Lorenzo Pasqualigo to his brother Francesco; dated London, 12th November, received at Venice on the 15th December, and seen by Marin Sanuto, who transcribed it thus.
Nothing new, except a proclamation which had been made, forbidding under penalty any native, save lords and knights, to wear silk, their apparel likewise to be restricted, no doublets of any other material than camlet (zambeloto) to be worn. This law to take effect from Christmas next; and, to set a good example to the others, the King and the whole House of Lords (fn. 1) had dressed themselves in long grey cloth gowns in the Hungarian fashion.
This they had done, that their gentry might save their money for the purchase of arms and horses, as nothing else is now talked of This law was very injurious to the Genoese and Tuscans, who had gone to London with cloths of silk, and should the law remain in force, they would assuredly be unable to remain.
Dec 27. Sanuto Diaries, v. xiii. p. 273. 139. Receipt of Letters from the Ambassador Badoer, dated London, 12th November, received by way of Rome, how the King was out of town. Mentions his own conversation with certain individuals, to the effect that within a few days he would hear good news, &c, implying as it were that the King would join the League and attack France in the spring; with other advices.
Dec. 28. Sanuto Diaries, v. xiii. p. 276. 140. Arrival of a Messenger from England who came through Germany with letters, dated London, 4th December, addressed by the King in Council to his Cardinal [the Archbishop of York] at Rome, desiring him to sign the articles of the League. The messenger reported that England was preparing to make war on France in the spring, and that nothing was to be seen there but military weapons and other like preparations. He also said that the Emperor was 12 leagues beyond Villach, and that it was reported that an agreement would be effected between the Signory and the Emperor.
Letters for the Lord Alberto da Carpi were consigned to this English messenger, who was despatched immediately to Rome by way of Chioggia.
Dec. 30. Misti Consiglio X. v. xxxiv. p. 121. 141. Domenico Trevisano, Venetian Ambassador with the Soldan of Egypt, Kansou Aigouri.
Commission to him from the Council of Ten and the Junta, instructing him, inter alia, if the Soldan ask for cannon founders or shipbuilders, to reply that they are now leagued with the Pope, the King of Spain, and the King of England, and that their doing so would be esteemed unworthy of a Christian power.
Ayes, 23. Noes, 1. Neutrals, 0.
Dec. 31. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliv. p. 92, tergo. 142. Commission to the Same, to inform the Soldan that, in conformity with the announcement lately made to him about a perpetual League concluded in Rome on 4th October last, between the Pope, the Kings of Spain and England and the Signory, that very powerful armies belonging to the Pope, Spain, and Venice are already in the field, and that the King of England is about to follow their example.
Ayes, 165. Noes, 6. Neutrals, 0.


  • 1. Concerning the capture of Andrew Barton, and his ships the Lion and the Jenny Pirwyn, by Sir Edmund Howard and Lord Thomas Howard, see Hall, p. 525.