Venice: November 1526

Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 3, 1520-1526. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1869.

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, 'Venice: November 1526', in Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 3, 1520-1526, (London, 1869) pp. 616-620. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/venice/vol3/pp616-620 [accessed 24 May 2024].

. "Venice: November 1526", in Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 3, 1520-1526, (London, 1869) 616-620. British History Online, accessed May 24, 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/venice/vol3/pp616-620.

. "Venice: November 1526", Calendar of State Papers Relating To English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 3, 1520-1526, (London, 1869). 616-620. British History Online. Web. 24 May 2024, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/venice/vol3/pp616-620.

November 1526

Nov. 4. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p. 241. 1435. Gasparo Spinelli to the Doge and Signory.
Narrates long conversations held by him with Cardinal Wolsey On the day of All Saints his right reverend Lordship invited all the ambassadors in London to attend mass and dine with him. He then called the Papal and French ambassadors and him (Spinelli), saying it would be well to unite England with France, and conclude the marriage, and that the King and Cardinal intend to negotiate the peace with the Emperor. The Cardinal urged him (Spinelli) to write to the Signory to refer the affair of the peace to England.
The King of England will do nothing unless the King of France gives him Boulogne.
The ambassador Venier has crossed over to England, and is to make his entry into London on the 5th. Has been to meet him.
London, 2nd and 4th November. Registered by Sanuto, 4th December.
[Italian.]
Nov. 5. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p. 195. 1436. Andrea Rosso to the Doge and Signory.
The King has provided funds for the fifth payment, and told him in secret that he had a plot on foot for the seizure of a certain town belonging to the Emperor, and that he would lose France rather than make truce.
The King of England has sent his Majesty a present of 12 handsome hounds (cani) and 12 horses.
The Chancellor complains that the King holds Robertet in greater account than him, Du Prat. His Majesty has complied with the request made by the messenger from Zanim de' Medici, whom he takes into his pay. (fn. 1)
Paris, 5th November. Registered by Sanuto on the 24th.
[Italian.]
Nov. 8. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p. 205. 1437. The Same to the Same.
Conversations with the King, who will grant everything; his forces harass Flanders incessantly. He will not fail to send money for the support of the undertaking.
The two English ambassadors [Clerk and Ghinucci] have arrived, and presented the King with six horses and eight very handsome sporting dogs, with their coverings (et otto cani coperti bellissimi da caza).
The King has had the obsequies of the Queen celebrated at Paris at a cost of 50,000 francs.
Etampes, 7th and 8th November. Registered by Sanuto on the 26th.
[Italian.]
Nov. 13. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p.297. 1438. Marco Antonio Venier to the Doge and Signory.
Gives an account of his arrival, of the honours done him, and of his audience of the King; much gossip (assa zanze). Nothing of importance, save that the King is sending the Papal Auditor [Ghinucci] into Spain to the Emperor, and his Majesty and the Cardinal wish the Emperor and the King of France to be reconciled.
The King of England is also sending 25,000 ducats to the Vaivod of Transylvania, that he may assist the kingdom of Hungary against the Turks; and his Majesty has written to the Emperor to consent to his being the mediator for the peace, and to the duchy of Milan being placed in his hands.
London, 13th November. Registered by Sanuto, 16th December.
[Italian.]
Nov. 14. Navagero Despatches, Cicogna copy. 1439. Andrea Navagero to the Signory.
Nothing further heard from England since the Emperor's reply to the King's letter. Lee is of opinion that his King will heartily favour the negotiation for peace, and use all his influence to adjust the dissension between Christians. The Emperor and all his ministers hope at any rate to have the King of England on their side, or that he will at least not be against them, although they know that Cardinal Wolsey is otherwise inclined
Granada, 14th November 1526.
[Italian.]
Nov. 16. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. pp. 245, 246. 1440. Andrea Rosso to the Doge and Signory.
The King has persuaded the English ambassador to write to the King of England to declare war against the Emperor.
Poissi, 16th November. Registered by Sanuto, 5th December.
[Italian.]
Nov. 17. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. li. p. 102, tergo. 1441. The Proposed General Peace.
Power from the Doge, Andrea Gritti, authorizing Marc' Antonio Venier, Venetian ambassador in England, to sign a general peace. Place reserved for the Emperor and the King of England. Denomination of the Signory's confederates, viz., the Pope, Francis King of the French, Henry King of England, Francesco Sforza, Duke of Milan, and the Republic of Florence. Furnished with the Doge's pendant leaden seal, and signed with his own hand.
[Original draft, Latin, 63 lines.]
Nov. 17. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. li. p. 102, tergo. 1442. The General Peace.
Second power, like the foregoing, but with omission of the clause denominating the Signory's confederates.
[Original draft, Latin.]
Nov. 18. Lettere del Collegio (Secreta), File no. 10. 1443. The Doge and College to Gasparo Spinelli, Secretary in England.
Have heard from their ambassador at the Papal Court in date of the 17th. His Holiness had communicated to him letters from the Prothonotary Gambara, his Nuncio in England, dated the 19th October, purporting that the King and Cardinal were excellently disposed in favour of the joint undertaking, and that they greatly resented the injuries done to the Pope, to whom they were sending 25,000 crowns, for the maintenance of his dignity. Moreover, when the King and Cardinal shall hear of the manifest peril of Italy, through the successes of the Imperialists, who have mustered a considerable number of Lansquenets at Trent to enter the Brescian territory by way of Lodrone ad Anfo, a fleet being expected from Spain with the subsidy for Italy, they will then see the necessity for aiding the Holy League, and of doing that which was so largely promised by them to the State, and not permit the Emperor to make himself monarch of the universe.
The King and Cardinal will have had a reply from the Emperor to their letters, and also to the statement made by the English ambassador, and will have been enabled to ascertain whether his Imperial Majesty is inclined to peace.
[The Pope has suggested to the Signory that, as the Venetian secretary in France has received a power from them for the ambassador Navagero in Spain to conclude the general peace with the Emperor on the terms appointed in France, they should give a similar power to him (Spinelli) to conclude the peace, the instructions being the same as those given to Navagero, so that should the peace have to be negotiated and concluded in England they may facilitate it. Therefore they send the power to the secretary (Rosso) in France, for transmission with those from the Pope and the most Christian King, so that the aforesaid peace may be concluded.]
[To say nothing about the transmission to France of the power destined for him.] (fn. 2)
[Italian.]
Nov. 18. Lettere del Collegio (Secreta), File no. 10. 1444. The Same to the Same.
Transmit to him two ample powers, one with the specific denomination of the contracting parties, and the other alluding to them in general terms, these being in accordance with the powers sent by the Pope. To use the one with the specific denomination; if not, the other.
Charge him, in conjunction with the ambassadors of the Holy League, to negotiate and conclude a general peace with the Emperor, who is to release the sons of the most Christian King, to leave Lombardy intact, and the Duke Francesco in his territory, to pay the King of England what he owes him, and to come into Italy for his coronation in such form as already stipulated, or as shall be determined by the unanimous consent of all the members of the Holy League.
[Moreover, in the Pope's power to his Nuncio in Spain the preamble contained many hostile expressions against the Turks. Now although his Holiness has given the Signory to understand that in the power which he is now sending to England the document has been drawn up in better form, so that no mention is made of them, nevertheless the Signory is anxious that the instrument of peace shall not contain a word against the Turks, so as to avoid giving umbrage to the Grand Turk.] (fn. 3)
To lose no opportunity for requesting the King and Cardinal to grant the Signory their protection.
[Italian.]
Nov. 19. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p. 297. 1445. Andrea Rosso to the Doge and Signory.
Showed the mandates for treating the agreement with the Emperor to the most Christian King, who merely said that he would communicate them to his Privy Council. The King has received letters from England, informing him that the King of England was sending the Papal Auditor [Ghinucci] to the Emperor, to induce him to have the peace with France negotiated in England. His most Christian Majesty does not approve the proposal.
Poissy, 18th and 19th November. Registered by Sanuto, 16th Dec.
[Italian.]
Nov. 23. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p. 327. 1446. Marc' Antonio Venier to the Doge and Signory.
Cardinal Wolsey told him that he wished the Signory to encourage the Pope, and to place the duchy of Milan in the hands of the King of England, who would then make terms.
London, 23rd November. Registered by Sanuto, 25th December.
[Italian.]
Nov. 23. Sanuto Diaries, v. xliii. p. 192. 1447. Letter to England.
Motion made and carried in the Senate, by the Sages and the Sages for the Orders, for a letter to Marco Antonio Venier, LL.D., the Signory's Ambassador in England.
Have received letters from the Secretary Spinelli concerning what the Emperor had written to England. Desire him (Venier) to say the Emperor's statement is false, as so far from wishing for peace his Majesty sent a fleet to Italy, under the command of the Viceroy, who has arrived in Corsica, and also from 15,000 to 20,000 Lansquenets into the Mantuan territory. Therefore the King of England should act.
[Italian.]
Nov. 23. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. li. p. 104. 1448. The Doge and Senate to Marco Foscari, Ambassador in Rome.
The most Christian King is ready to continue the undertaking. The King of England shows himself willing to assist the Pope. The Pope should write to France, to urge the most Christian King to increase his preparations; and the Signory will do the like.
Ayes, 185. Noes, 3. Neutral, 1.
[Italian.]
Nov. 23. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. li. p. 108. 1449. The Doge and Senate to Marc' Antonio Venier, Ambassador in England.
To thank the King and Cardinal for the confidential statement made to Spinelli of what the Emperor's envoy brought back in reply to the King's letters, and commend the grant of aid to the Pope for his support and encouragement. To tell them of the entrance of the Lansquenets into Italy, and of the arrival of the Spanish fleet in Corsica. To notify the consequent confusion of the affairs of the league, adding that the King and Cardinal should have recourse to expedient measures to repress the Emperor's manifest craving for universal monarchy (il manifesto apetito se vede haver lo Imperator de farsi monarcha).
Have remarked in the Secretary's letters that the King, and still more the Cardinal, repeatedly expressed to him their wish that the Duke of Ferrara should make terms with the Pope and join the league. Should they again discuss this matter, to assure them that the Signory has never failed to perform every good office to that effect, both with the Pope and the Duke, and will continue so to do.
Ayes, 173. Noes, 2. Neutrals, 4.
[Italian.]

Footnotes

  • 1. As already stated, Giovanni de' Medici, Captain of the Black Bands, died on the 30th November 1526.
  • 2. The passages in. brackets were to be put into cipher.
  • 3. The passage in brackets was to be put into cipher.