House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 05 June 1604

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Martis, 5 Junii, 1604

Devon, &c. Fishing.

Mr. Cadwallader Tydder, Deputy to the Clerk, being sick, and absent for Two Days; 5 et 6 Junii.

L. 2. B. FOR the Preservation of Fishing in the Counties of Devon and Cornwall;- Committed to the Knights and Burgesses for Devon and Cornwall, Mr. Tate, Mr. Hedley, Mr. D. Mountloe, Mr Jones, Mr. Yelverton: - To meet To-morrow, in the Exchequer Chamber.


L. 2. Nova B. For the charitable Relieving of Persons infected with the Plague: - Committed to the Committee in the first Bill: - To meet on Thursday, in the Exchequer Court [b].


B. For the well Garbelling of Spices, reported from the Committee by Mr. D. James; which were twice read ; and the Bill, upon Question, ordered to be ingrossed.


B. Touching the draining of surrounded Grounds, reported by Mr. Hedley, with Alterations, Amendments, and Provisoes added ; the Bill and Provisoes delivered in; and, upon Motion, Counsel appointed to be heard on Thursday next in the Morning, upon the Reading.

Tonage and Poundage.

B. Touching a Subsidy of Tonage and Poundage, reported by Mr. Moore, with Amendments; which were twice read; and, after many Doubts cast, and Arguments pro et contra, the Bill, with the Amendments, re-committed to the same Committee: - To meet again To-morrow Morning, in the Committee Chamber: - Sir Wm. Strowd, Mr. Manne, of Poole, added.


Sir Geo. St. Poll moveth for Matters of Religion generally: - To make fit the ground, and to weed: - And preferreth a Bill, intituled, Against scandalous and unworthy Ministers.


L. 2. B. For Continuance, Reviving, Repealing, &c. - Secondly read ; argued; Provisoes, Exceptions, and Alterations offered by Mr. Nath. Bacon, Mr. Serjeant Snig, Mr. Francis Moore, Mr. Serjeant Shirley, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Edwyn Sandys, Mr. Hackwill, Mr. Brook, Mr. Fuller, Sir Edw. Hobby, Mr. Crewe, Sir Tho. Hobby, Mr. Martin, Sir Edw. Mountague, Sir Rich. Leveson, Sir Tho. Freak, Mr. Cole, Sir Chro. Hilyard; and the Bill, with divers Provisoes now tendered, committed to the Committees named for the Framing of the Bill; with more added; viz. All the Privy Council of the House, Sir Vincent Skynner, Sir Roger Aston, Mr. Gore, Sir Herbert Crofts, the Burgesses of all Port Towns, Sir Henry Bromley, Sir John Scott, Sir Tho. Waller, Mr. Crewe, Mr. Edw. Bromley, Mr. Nath. Bacon, Mr. Serjeant Hobart, Sir John Thynne, Sir Henry Beamount, Sir Maurice Berkley, Sir Wm. Harvye, Sir Tho. Holcroft, Sir Rich. Molineux, Sir Francis Barrington, Sir Rich. Leveson, Sir Rich. Bulkley, Mr. Barker, Sir John Leveson, Sir Rob. Maunsell, Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir Edwyn Sandys: - To meet on Thursday next, in the Parliament-house.


Sir Tho. Ridgeway reporteth the Bill, touching Conjuration, Witchcraft, &c. with Alterations and Amendments ; delivereth in the Bill; and the third Reading deferred till To-morrow.

Message from the King.

Mr. Speaker delivereth from the King a Message, of Three Parts :

The Motives of his Majesty's Unkindness :

Matter of his Relation to us :

Of his princely Satisfaction.

When he looked into the Gravity and Judgment of this House, and of the long Continuance of the Parliament; so few Matters of Weight passed, and that Matter of Privilege had taken much Time (which, notwithstanding, he was as careful to preserve, as we ourselves) he was moved with Jealousy, that there was not such Proceeding, as, in Love, he expected. This the Cause of Unkindness.

That we should not think this Declaration to us was any Condemnation of our Ingratitude, or Forgetfulness of him; but by way of Commemoration and Admonition, as a Father to his Children ; neither did he tax us; but only remember us of Expedition, omitted and desired.

Lastly, that he is resolved, we have not denied any thing, which is fit to be granted. That he had divers Arguments of our good Affections :

1. Our Doubt of his Displeasure.

2. Our Desire to give him Satisfaction; which he accepteth as a Thing done, because desired by us.

3. He observeth the Difference of our Proceeding, sithence his Speech unto us, with greater Expedition in those Things desired to be effected by him, than before : He giveth us Thanks, and wisheth we would not trouble ourselves with giving him Satisfaction.

And he giveth what Time we desire, for finishing the Matters of Importance depending.

Free Trade.

Further Dispute offered, touching the Bill for free Trade; and, upon Question, over-ruled ; and ordered to be argued, and put to Question, Tomorrow.

Alehouses, &c.

L. 3. An Act to restrain the Haunting of Alehouses, &c. Inns, &c. - Thirdly read; and argued by Sir Tho. Holcroft, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Hyde, Sir John Hollis, Sir Timothy Whyttingham, Mr. D. Styward, Mr. D. Mountloes, Sir John Heigham, Mr. Hext, Sir Rob. Wingfield.

Moved, and upon Question, ordered, That it shall continue only to the End of the first Session of the next Parliament,

Which was written in Paper, twice read, and, upon Question, to be ingrossed, and added.

Which being added, and thirdly read; the Bill, upon Question, passed.

Mr. Seymour and Earl of Hertford.

Counsel in the Bill, concerning Mr. Seymour and the Earl of Hertford, to be further heard on Thursday next, in the Morning [a].

Penning's Release.

L. 1. B. FOR the Frustrating of a Release unduly procured by Antho. Penning from Edmond Penning, his Brother, &c.


L. 1. B. Against scandalous and unworthy Ministers.


B. Inhibiting all Persons, above the Age of Sixteen Years, from Restitution, &c. their Ancestors Recusants, &c. reported from the Committee by Sir Rob. Wroth, with Amendments ; the Amendments twice read; and the Bill, upon Question, ordered to be ingrossed.

Learned Ministry.

B. For the Providing of a godly and learned Ministry, reported by Sir Geo. Moore, with Amendments, and a Proviso added.

Moved, and urged with many Instances, by Sir John Heigham and Sir Tho. Hobby, that some (no Graduates) very sufficient Men, were fit to be provided for.

Upon this, a Question made, whether the Words, "or being no Graduate" (struck out by the Committee) shall stand in the Bill; and ordered, by Question, to stand.

The Amendments and Proviso twice read; and B. ingrossetur.

Trinity College Cambridge.

B. Touching an Exchange between Trinity College in Cambridge, and Sir Tho. Mounson, reported by Mr. Francis Moore, with a Proviso added; which was twice read, and ordered to be ingrossed.

Warren's,&c. Decree.

B. For the Performance of a Decree in Chancery, &c. between Warren et Waller, reported by Mr. Winch; opened, and argued; and, for divers apparent Imperfections, upon the Question, rejected.

Popish Books.

L. 2. B. For Reformation of Abuses in bringing into this Land, printing, &c. Popish Books, &c. - Much disputed, and pressed, pro et contra, by [b] Mr. Winch, Mr. Tey, Mr. Alford, Sir Edw. Grevill, Mr. Serjeant Dodridge, Sir Edward Mountague, Sir John Hollis, Sir Edward Hobby, Sir Henry Beamount, Mr. Solicitor. - Either this to be committed, or some other framed. Upon the Question of Commitment, the House divided:

With the Yea, 135.

the Noe, 125.

Difference, 10.

Committed to all the Privy Council of the House, Sir Francis Hastings, Sir Edw. Hobby, Mr. Winch, Mr. Serjeant Dodridge, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Robert Wroth, Mr. Nath. Bacon, Sir Rob. Wingfield, Sir Rob. Oxenbridge, Sir John Hollis, Sir Henry Beamount, Sir Wm. Strowd, Mr. Crewe, Mr. Yelverton, Sir Chro. Perkins, Sir Daniel Dun, Sir Edw. Lewknor, Mr. Martin, Mr. Serjeant Hobart, Mr. Hicham, Mr. Brock, Sir John Savill, Sir Roger Wilbraham, Sir Roger Aston, Sir John Scott, Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir Henry Mountague, Mr. Tey, Sir Maurice Berkley, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Edw. Tyrrell, Sir Edwyn Sandys, Sir Barnard Whytston, Sir Francis Barrington, Sir Antho. Cope, Mr. Alford, Sir Jerome Horsey, Sir John Thynne, Sir John Bennett, Mr. Edw. Jones:- - To meet this Afternoon in the Exchequer Court.

Tonage and Poundage.

B. Touching a Subsidy of Tonage and Poundage, Yesterday recommitted, reported by Mr. Francis Moore, with Amendments and a Proviso; which were twice read; and the Bill, with the Proviso, ordered to be ingrossed.

Motion, touching the Exemption of Chester by their Charter: And ordered, That the Charter be brought in, read, and considered on by the House.

Free Trade.

The Argument touching the Bill of free Trade, continued by [c] Sir Rob. Maunsell, Sir Tho. Hobby, Sir Rich. Bulkley, Mr. Carleton, Mr. Tey, Sir William Morrice, Sir Henry Beamount, Mr. Hoskins, Sir Wm. Strode, Mr. Serjeant Snig, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Hyde.

Motion made, for certain Words of Addition to be put in; and upon Question, ordered; and presently inserted.

Another Motion, that it should continue but for Twelve Years; and, upon Question, ordered to continue for ever.

Question, touching the Word " Clothier" to be put out: - Ordered to stand.

The Bill itself put to Question, and, upon Question, passed.