House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 06 November 1640

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Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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Die Veneris, 6 Novembris, 16 Regni Regis Caroli, 1640.


Fast Day.

THERE was a Motion made for a Fast: It was thereupon

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Desire of this House is, that there should be a Fast.

Resolved, upon the Question, That there shall be a Message sent to the Lords, to desire them to join with this House to make a Request to his Majesty for a Fast.

Sir Tho. Roe, Sir Walther Erle, Sir Miles Fleetewood, Sir Henry Mildmay, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Pimme;

This Committee is to meet this Afternoon, in the Treasury-chamber, to view the Orders of the last Parliament, touching a Fast; and accordingly to prepare a Report to the House.

Committee of Privileges.

Sir Guy Palmes, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir Fra. Barnham, Sir Jo. Hotham, Sir Jo. Trevor, Mr. Hatcher, Mr. H. Bellassis, Sir Gilb. Gerrard, Mr. Mallory, Sir Fr. Seymour, Mr. Kirton, Sir Hugh Cholmeley, Sir Rob. Harley, Mr. Selden, Sir Jo. Culpepper, Sir Jo. Strangewayes, [Sir Wm.] Litton, [Mr. St.] Johns, [Sir] Christopher Hatton, Sir Oliver Luke, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Hollis, Mr. Whistler, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Charles Price, Mr. Grantham, Mr. Bagshaw, Mr. Broxam, Mr. White, Sir Tho. Witherington, Sir Wm. Witherington, Mr. Witakers, Ld. Digby, Serjeant Eures, Mr. Christ. Lewknour, Sir Wm. Masham, Sir Edward Deering, Sir Peter Heyman, Sir Edward Hales, Sir Henry Herbert, Mr. Morgan, Lord Russell, Mr. Glinne, Mr. Hampden, Sir Roger North, Sir Tho. Walsingham, Sir Miles Fleetewood, Sir Anthony Irby, Ld. Fairefax, Mr. Owfeild, Mr. Duke, Mr. Perpoint, Sir Rich. Onslow, Mr. Strangwayes, Sir Henry Mildmay, Sir Edmund Mountfort, Mr. Jo. Bellassis, Sir Walther Earle, Mr. Pimme, Sir Philip Stapleton, Ld. Dungaroon, Sir Christ. Wray, Sir Rich. Vivian, Mr. Denzell Hollis, Sir Jo. Wray, Mr. Cage, Sir Edw. Aiskew, Mr. Upton, Mr. Palmer, Sir Arthur Ingram, Mr. Grimston, Mr. King, Mr. Wm. Sands, Mr. Perd, Ld. Andever, Sir Ro. Crane, Mr. Rous, Sir Tho. Bowyer, Sir Jo. Jennings, Mr. Valentine, Sir Hen. Crooke, Sir Wm. Carnaby, Sir Arthur Haslerigg, Sir Sidney Mountague, Mr. Fines, Mr. Henry Cooke, Ld. Buckhurst;

This Committee is appointed to examine and consider all Questions, to grow and arise this Parliament, about Elections, Returns, or other Privileges of the House; and to report their Opinions and Proceedings therein to the House: And have Power to send for Records, Witnesses, and Parties, and to hear Counsel: And are, for this Service, to meet this Afternoon, and afterwards every Saturday, Tuesday, and Thursday, in the Star chamber, at Two of Clock after Dinner.

Election Petitions.

Ordered, That those Petitions, this Day delivered in the House, concerning Elections, shall be bundled up, and delivered to the Committee for Privileges; and they to consider, which of them to fall in hand with first.

Controverted Elections.

It was moved, That where Some are returned by the Sheriff, or such other Officer, that in Law has Power to return, Others by private Hands, That those returned by the Sheriff [should sit, till their] Election be quasht by the House: But nothing was ordered [upon it].


It was likewise moved, That the Committee for Privileges might have Power to determine all Cases, that appear clear, upon the bare View of the Indenture: And the Order of this House, the last Parliament was read: But the House resolved nothing upon it.

Cambridge Writ.

Ordered, A Warrant to issue, under Mr. Speaker's Hand, to the Clerk of the Crown, for a new Writ to be sent to the Sheriff of Cambridgeshire, for Election of the Knights of that Shire; because no County Day did intervene, between the Receipt of the Writ, and the Day of Appearance in the Parliament.

Controverted Elections.

Ordered, That all such as will question any Elections, now presently returned, shall do the same, by Petition, within Fourteen Days; and those that shall question any Elections, to be hereafter returned, shall likewise do the same, within Fourteen Days after their Return.

Members doubly returned.

Upon the Debate of granting Time to Those that are doubly returned, for making their Choice for which Place they will serve; and, upon Diversity of Opinions, some being for Monday next, and some for longer Time: it was put to the Question, whether the Question should be first made for Monday next, or for longer Time: It was

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Question for Monday should first be made.

Resolved, upon the Question, That all such as are doubly returned, shall make their Choice, for which Place they will serve, on Monday next, or before.

Ordered, That the Case of the Knights for Buckinghamshire shall be excepted out of this general Order, "That such as are doubly returned shall make their Choice, for which Place to serve, on Monday next, or before."

Member admitted.

Mr. Serle, an Inhabitant of Taunton, a Town in Somersetshire, lately much visited with the Sickness, returned a Burgess of this House.-After much Debate, whether he should presently-admitted into the House, or no: It was at length

Ordered, That he shall be admitted into the House presently.

Grand Committees.

A Committee of the whole House, for Religion, to meet every Monday at Two of Clock in the Afternoon, in the House.

[A Committee of] the whole House, for Grievances, to meet every [Wednesday at] Two of Clock in the Afternoon, in the House.

A Committee of the whole House, for Courts of Justice, to meet every Friday at Two of Clock in the Afternoon, in the House.

These Committees have Power to send for Writings, Books, Records, Papers, Officers, Parties, and Witnesses; and to assign and hear Counsel; and are to report their Opinions and Proceedings to the House.

It was moved, That these Grand Committees might be ordered to have Power to make Sub-committees:

But it was Declared by the House, that That Power was incident upto them, without any further Order.


Ordered, That it should be referred to the Committee for Privileges, to consider of the Claims and Interests of all such Boroughs as pretend to have any Title to return any Members to sit in this House.

Committee for Trade.

Ordered, A Committe of the whole House, for Trade, meet in the House every Tuesday at Two of Clock in the Afternoon; and to have the like Power as the other Grand Committees of the whole House have.

Irish Affairs.

Upon the Question, whether the Irish Affairs should be referred to a Committee of the whole House, or to a select Committee,

The House was divided; and the Yeas went forth, and the Noes stayed in:

Tellers for the Yea, Sir Edward Bainton, Sir Rich.Luson.

Tellers for the Noe, Sir Jo. Clotworthy, Sir H. Mildmay.

With the Yeas - - 165

With the Notes - - 152

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Irish Affairs shall be referred to a Committee of the whole House, to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon at Two of Clock, in the House; and afterwards[every] Thursday, at the same Hour and Place; and this Committee is to have [the like Power as] the other Grand Committees of the whole House have.

To meet To-morrow [at Eight of Clock.]