House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 12 October 1644

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Die Sabbati, Octobris 12, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Lord Howard's Losses.

THE humble Petition of Edw. Lord Howard, Baron of Escrick, was this Day read: And

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That Five thousand Pounds arising and accruing from the Moiety reserved to the State upon all such Ships Lading and Cannon, as shall be gained out of the Seas and Rivers of this Kingdom, by Dominique Petit, and his Associates, by virtue of an Ordinance of Augusti 26, 1643, next after the Thousand Pounds formerly granted out of the said gained Ships Lading and Cannon; &c. unto Rene Augier Esquire; shall be conferred upon the said Edward Lord Howard, towards the Reparation of his great Losses sustained for his faithful Attendance and Service in Parliament, and for his present Support.

Palmer's Goods.

Ordered, That the Goods formerly seized, which were the Goods of Sir James Palmer, a Delinquent, and, by both Houses of Parliament, appointed to be employed for the Use of Plymouth and Wiltes, shall be forthwith delivered to Mr. Jennour, a Member of the House of Commons, to be by him disposed of, as the Committees of those Places shall direct.

City Forces.

Mr. Scawen reports the Amendments to the Ordinance for the Levying of Monies for the Advance and Maintenance of the Forces now to be set forth for the present Expedition, from the City of London, and Liberties thereof, and from the Parishes mentioned in the Weekly Bills of Mortality, were this Day read; and, upon the Question, assented unto; and the Ordinance, with the Amendments, passed, upon the Question; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Commissioners of the Martial Affairs, to take notice of such Commanders and Soldiers of the City Brigade, now upon Advance, as shall not forthwith march to their Rendezvous, being entered into the Pay and Entertainment of the State; and to proceed against them by Martial Law, according to the Lord General's Articles in that Behalf.

It is further Ordered, That the Committee of the Militia be acquainted with this Order: And that they take care that the Commanders and Soldiers do forthwith march to their Rendezvous.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Carried up by Sir Robert Pye.

Bishop of Canterbury's Trial.

Ordered, That the Members of this House that are of the long Robe, do meet, on Monday next, in the Afternoon, at Three of Clock, in . . . Exchequer Chamber; and consider of the Evidence given in at the Trial of the Bishop of Canterbury; and sum and state it to the House; and present their Opinions to the House, what is fit to be done for the further Proceeding against the Bishop of Canterbury.

Message to Lords.

Sir Robert Pye likewise carried up to the Lords, Northamptonshire Ordinance: The Ordinance for levying Monies for Maintenance of the Forces of the City Brigade: The Ordinance for Two hundred Pounds for Hurst Castle: The Ordinance for delivering of Sir James Palmer's Jewels, &c. to Mr. Jennour: The Order concerning the Commanders and Officers of the City Brigade to march to their Rendezvous.

He was likewise to desire the Lords to pass the Rutlandshire Ordinance.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords do desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning a Letter brought unto them, by a Lord of that House, from Colonel Massy; and likewise concerning a Breach of the Privilege of Peers, violated in breaking open the Doors of the House of the Countess of Peterburgh.

They have received a Petition from Mrs. Bastwick, Wife of Doctor Bastwick: The which they recommend to the Consideration of this House.

The Petition was read: And

Payment to Bastwick.

It is Ordered, That the Committee of Lords and Commons, at Haberdashers Hall, do advance and pay unto Mrs. Susannah Bastwick, Wife of Doctor Bastwick, taken Prisoner by the King's Forces, being in the Parliament's Service, and still a close Prisoner in Knaresborough Castle, or such as she shall appoint to receive the same, the Sum of One hundred and Ten Pounds and Five Shillings, upon Account; being for so much due unto the Husband of the said Mrs. Bastwick, for his Pay, and Entertainment in the Parliament's Service.

Delinquents Estates.

Mr. Lisle reports the Amendments to the Ordinance for sequestering the Estates of Delinquents, now remaining in the Island of Jersey, which can be discovered to be in London, or any other Port, Town, or Place of England: The which were read; and assented unto; and the Ordinance, with the Amendments, passed, upon the Question; and ordered to be sent unto the Lords, for their Concurrence.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordship's Message; and do agree to the Conference, as is desired: And have taken Mrs. Bastwick's Petition into Consideration; and have ordered something upon it.

Conference.

Mr. Holles, Mr. Recorder, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Seppens' Petition.

The humble Petition of Captain Thomas Seppens, condemned, by Martial Law, to die, for meditating, by Letter, with Lieutenant Colonel Russell, to deliver up the Isle of Guernesey, whereof he is Governor; desiring Mercy; was this Day read: And

It is Ordered, That the Council of War do certify unto this House the especial Case of the Condemnation of Captain Thomas Seppens: And that, in the mean time, he be reprieved, till the House take further Order.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Robert Pye brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to all the Ordinances and Matters carried up by him, except the Ordinance for the City Brigade: To which they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Military Affairs.

Mr. Recorder reports, from the Conference, the Letter from Colonel Massie, from Monmouth, of Septembris 30, 1644, desiring a Thousand marching Foot, and Five hundred Horse, for the better Service of the State in Wales; and for the Blocking up of Bristol, &c.: The Letter was read.

Privilege.

Mr. Recorder further reported from the Conference, That there was one Henry Hardston, who has some Relation to the Service of this House; and was employed by the Committee of Examinations, to search a House, under another Name, for some Goods of the Earl of Corke's; which proved to be the House of the Countess of Peterburgh's: And that the said Harlston, notwithstanding that he was acquainted that it was the Countess of Peterburgh's House, yet would search the House.

The Lords would do nothing against him, in respect of That Relation he had to the Service of this House: And do therefore desire this House would take off this Relation, that they may proceed against him, upon his Breach of their Privilege.

Military Affairs.

Ordered, That this Letter from Colonel Massie be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Ordered, That Mr. Recorder do prepare a Letter to be signed and sent from Mr. Speaker to Colonel Massie, in Acknowledgment of the great and faithful Services done by him to the State; and to return him Thanks; and to assure him of all the Encouragement this House can afford him.

Governor of Monmouth.

Upon a Report from the Committee of Gloucester, Hereford, &c.

It is Resolved, &c. That Colonel Edward Harley be recommended to Colonel Massie, to be Governor of Monmouth.

Gloucester, &c. Committee.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth nominate and appoint James Fienes Esquire, Mr. Edw. Stradling, Mr. John Herbert, Mr. Hen. Harbert, Mr. Roger Williams, Mr. Christ. Katchmey, Colonel Henry Bowen, to be added to the Committee of Gloucester, Hereford, &c.

The Lords Concurrence to be desired herein.

Privilege.

Resolved, &c. That Henry Hartston be forthwith committed Prisoner to the Gatehouse, for breaking open the House of the Countess of Peterburgh, notwithstanding that he knew it to be the Countess of Peterburgh's; there to continue Prisoner, during the Pleasure of this House; and until he hath given Satisfaction of the Countess of Peterburgh for this Injury and Violation of her Privilege.

Lord Grey, Sir Gilbert Pykering, Mr. Tate, are appointed to go to the Countess of Peterburgh; to give her Satisfaction touching the Carriage of Henry Hartston, at her House.

Army Surgeons.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Master and Wardens of the Apothecaries and Surgeons, to make Choice of able and fit Men for Surgeons to be sent to my Lord General's Army: And that if such as shall be chosen and appointed by them shall refuse to go, that then they repair to the Committee of the Militia: And that they give Order for the Pressing of them for the said Service.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords do desire to put the House in mind of an Ordinance, formerly sent down, concerning my Lord Fairefaxe's Chaplain to be Parson of Kirklington: They have sent down the Ordinance touching my Lord Newburgh; to which they agree, with some Amendments: The Order touching the Earl of Denbighe's Jewels in Sir James Palmer . . . . ., with some Amendments: They have passed the Ordinance for Maintenance of the City Brigade: They have sent down an Ordinance concerning the Duke of Lorraine's Agent; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House: They have likewise sent down an Order concerning the Reprieve of Seppens; in which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

Answer.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to the Ordinance concerning Mr. Clarkson: As to the Amendments in the Ordinance concerning my Lord Newbergh, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own: As to the Proviso to the Order concerning Sir James Palmer's Jewels, they do agree unto it: As to the Order concerning the Duke of Lorraine's Agent; and the Reprieve of Seppens; they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Lord Newburgh.

Ordered, That Mr. Strode do, on Monday Morning next, desire the Lords, That my Lord Newburgh may be assessed his Twentieth Part.

Propositions for Peace.

Ordered, That on Monday Morning next, peremptorily, the Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace, be taken into Consideration, the first Business: And that no other Business intervene: And that Mr. Speaker put the House in mind hereof.

Lord Newburgh.

Ordered, That on Wednesday Morning next, a Conference be desired with the Lords, upon the Report from the Committee of the Revenue touching the Lord Newburgh.

Colours for Army.

Ordered, That the Committee for Sequestrations, sitting at Cambden House, do forthwith deliver unto Sir Walter Earle Knight, Lieutenant of the Ordnance, so much of the Sarcenet which remains in their Custody not yet disposed of, as will be sufficient to make Sixtytwo Colours of the Lord General's Foot.

Lady Drake.

Ordered, That the Committee of Sequestrations, sitting at Cambden House, do in pursuance of a former Order of both Houses of Parliament, deliver unto the Lady Ellen Drake, or such as she shall appoint, such Houshold-stuff, and other Necessaries, as shall be fitting to furnish her House: And the Care to see this done, is especially recommended unto Sir Walter Erle.

City Brigade.

Ordered, That Colonel Longe do acquaint the Commander in Chief of the City Brigade, That this House doth require him forthwith, upon Receipt hereof, to give Order to his Brigade to march To-morrow from their several Quarters, towards the West; and so from Day to Day, till he receive further Orders to the contrary.

Grant to Pymme's Children.

Whereas this House did formerly grant, That the Estate of Morgan, a Papist, who died in Arms against the Parliament, should be granted unto, and bestowed upon, the Children of Mr. Pymme, late a Member of this House, and for the Payment of the Debts of the said Mr. Pymme; and further ordered, That an Ordinance should be brought in to that Purpose: But, in regard of the weighty Affairs of the Kingdom, the said Ordinance could not yet be brought in, and taken into Consideration: It is this Day Ordered, by the Commons House of Parliament, That the Rents due out of the Estate of the said Mr. Morgan, in any Parts of this Kingdom, on Michaelmas Day last past, shall be disposed of unto Sir Benjamin Rudyard Knight, a Member of the House of Commons, or to such Persons as he shall appoint, for the Uses aforesaid; and forthwith pay accordingly: Whose Acquittance unto the Tenants, and others, Possessors of the said Mr. Morgan's Lands, under the Hands of the said Sir Benjamin Rudyard, or of such Person or Persons as shall be appointed, under the Hands of the said Sir Benjamin Rudyard, shall be a sufficient Discharge unto the said Tenants.

Southampton Excise, &c.

The Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, having, by Ordinance of the Two-and-twentieth of November 1643, designed and appointed all such Sums of Money as should come in by Way of Excise, or new Impost, out of the Town of Southampton, and the County thereof, and the Division of Fawley in the County of Southampton, adjoining, unto the Maintenance of the Garison, and other Service of the said Town of Southampton, and County thereof; in which Ordinance, there is no Direction to the Commissioners of Excise, and new Impost, in London, as is required by the Eleventh Article in the Ordinance of Excise, of the Eleventh of September 1643: The said Lords and Commons do hereby Declare, That they do not, by the said Ordinance of the Two-andtwentieth of November, intend, but that the Sub Commissioners and Receivers of Excise, and new Impost, in Southampton aforesaid, shall first, according to the said Ordinance of Excise of the 11 Septembris, make due Account with the Commissioners of Excise at London. And the said Lords and Commons do further Ordain, and authorize the said Commissioners of Excise, and new Impost, residing in London, by the Hands of their Sub Commissioners in the said Town of Southampton, and the Division of Fawley, to pay all such Sum or Sums of Money as they have, or shall receive, by way of Excise, or new Impost, as aforesaid, according as is directed and expressed by the said Ordinance of the Two-and-twentieth of November: And every Receipt or Receipts made in Manner and Form therein expressed, shall, from time to time, be a sufficient Discharge unto the said Commissioners of Excise, and their Sub Commissioners, and every of them: And this Ordinance to be in Force, as well for the Year past, as for the Year to come, continued by the Ordinance of the Eighth of April last 1644.

Money for Army Service.

Whereas, by an Order of the House of Commons, the Fourth of this Month; It is Ordered, That Three hundred Pair of Pistols, a Hundred Heads, a Hundred Backs, and a Hundred Breasts, be forthwith provided, and sent to Lieutenant General Cromwell; to arm his Regiment: It is now Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, and by Authority thereof, That the Sum of Five hundred and Eighty Pounds Ten Shillings be raised out of the several associated Counties hereafter expressed, according to the several Rates hereafter following; that is to say, out of the County of Essex, One hundred and Fifty Pounds, to be paid to Sir Martyn Lumley; out of the County of Norfolk, One hundred and Fifty Pounds, to be paid to Sir Thomas Woodhowse; and out of the County of Suffolk, One hundred and Fifty Pounds, to be paid to Mr. Heveningham Esquire; out of the County of Herts, to be paid to Sir Thomas Dacres, Seventy Pounds; out of the County of Cambridge, Sixty Pounds, to be paid to Sir Dudly North: All which Sums are to be paid to these Gentlemen above-mentioned, out of the first Monies that shall be raised and paid in, of the Weekly Assessment, upon the late Ordinance of Four Months, charged upon the associated Counties of Norfolk, Suffolk, &c. for the Maintenance of the Forces under the Lord Manchester's Command: Which Money are by these Gentlemen to be paid within Three Months to Mr. Watson and Mr. Newton, which have furnished and sent away and these Arms, as above-mentioned: And, hereby, the said Treasurers of each of these respective Counties shall be hereby discharged of such Monies as they, or any of them, shall pay, according as this Ordinance doth express; and also be saved harmless for any things they shall do herein.

Delinquents Estates.

An Ordinance of the Lords and Commons, for sequestering the Estates of the Delinquents, now remaining in the Island of Jerzey, which can be discovered to be in London, or any other Port, Town, or Place of England;

Whereas the Island of Jerzey is revolted from their due Obedience to the King and Parliament, and now is wholly possessed by notorious Delinquents, Inhabitants of the said Island; as also by Irish, Cornish, and French, under the Command of Captain George Carterett; who have seized and plundered all the Goods and Estates of some well-affected Gentlemen, and many other Persons of the said Island, for their Faithfulness to the Parliament; and have compelled them for Security of their Lives and Persons, and also for Relief, to fly hither, now remaining in the City of London in very great Want of Livelihood: Be it therefore Ordained, by the Lords and Commons, in Parliament, That all the Estates, Monies, Debts, or any other Goods whatsoever, belonging to the said Delinquents, or any of them, of the said Island, not exceeding the Sum of Two thousand Pounds, which can be discovered within Three Months after the passing of this Ordinance, within this City of London, or any other Port or Place within this Kingdom of England, or Island of Gernesey, be sequestered, and delivered into the Hands of John Pococke, John Hutchingson, and Wm. Greenehill, Citizens of London, on their Deputies appointed under their Hands; to be distributed by them, among the said distressed Inhabitants: And the Committee of Examinations shall have Power, and is hereby authorized to have such Power, to sequester the Estates of any such Delinquent, as any Committee for Sequestration hath: And the said Committee for Examinations, and also the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, shall deliver, or cause to be delivered, to the said John Pococke, John Hutchinson, and Wm. Greenehill, or their Deputies, all the Estates, Monies, Debts, or any other Goods whatsoever, which shall be sequestered, belonging to the said Delinquents, not exceeding the Sum of Two thousand Pounds; and which shall be discovered as aforesaid.